NS2 mouse controls

Great, I'm only ever using the pro controller though

Patent this NOW!

Looks like it has a lot of input lag, I don't think it's a bad extra feature though

I hope that this is timeline where we get to see corporation go to war with each other.

Crippleball

Innovations don't mean much when they're useless innovations. Nintendo includes one in every console since the 3DS, and promptly discards it after making one piece of shit tech demo like cripple basketball. It's part of a retarded methodology at Nintendo where they feel the need to convince themselves they're not releasing an iterative piece of crap console.

we will be playing on the next gen nintendo while you're left out of great exclusives

based nintendo convincing kids to get a pc

crazy acceleration

Hope they give you that sponsorship, slave

I have no plans to use this feature

itt: snoys are mad
good. kys

why didn't they make a new ui?

Nobody mentioned whether it was good or not. Faggot OP is making it seem like everybody does this when nobody else has ever done it. I'd rather have the chinks try to innovate and make garbage than to put out the same dogshit slop as everybody else all the time regardless.

hopefully this will lead to wider adoption of stick movement + mouse aiming in fps

bitch and cry and moan for years that controllers suck and mouse is better

"okay here's a built-in mouse"

"NOOOOOOOOOO"

They didn't innovate, the Legion Go has this exact feature.

yeah I saw how they discarded motion controls after the wii. kill yourself. they don't need to convince themself they made good consoles because it is so already.

They could just you know support real mice instead of forcing you to wiggle around a butt plug at 5 dpi. I don't feel the need to praise Nintendo over everything like tendies.

Anon Babble - Bitching about Nintendo

They could just you know support real mice

Switch already do faggot.

Who was asking for the joycon itself to be a mouse?

mfw some of these minor retarded gimmicks end up being the accidental backdoor that lets the console be giga hacked while nintendo panics into oblivion

it will rhyme, like pottery.

There's no way this can be used for first-person shooters or anything that requires fast movement. That sensor is going to get tilted off the table so much

kys Eric

This will be amazing for the PC emulators

consoletards invented the mouse

holy shit!

the amusing part to me is that there will be retarded kids and manchildren that fuck up their tables and/or furniture because they won't use a mousepad.

Nintendo actually already did it with Mario Paint, and that had good reason to use a mouse. This is just crap, nobody wants to use mouse controls when they're sitting at the couch. Nintendo will make 0 good games that utilize it, and it will be gone by the next console.
Learn to read retard, I said starting with the 3DS. 3D was abandoned, the Wii U's asynchronous tablet shit was abandoned, the Switch's retarded optical sensor gimmicks were abandoned.

they should release this game in the west now

Keep around motion controls

Don’t actually use it for much of the games

The one game they prominently advertise with motion controls bombs

I dunno, maybe they should’ve

This is cool as fuck and will make shooters on console way more bearable. Nintendo wins again.

hello US patent office? we want to patent this thing we call a "mouse"

instead of focusing on making games (like they should) they do dumb shit like this no one wants or asks for

please please Nintendo stop making substandard consoles and get back to making better games

this is going to be the 64DD of the switch 2.
maybe one or two first party games will force it in but eventually they will quietly drop it from the marketing and stop support when the switch 2 lite releases

mouse controls can hack consoles

snoys are truly retarded

Nintendo will make 0 good games that utilize it

Are you telling me crippleball doesn’t look like the sickest shit ever that’s totally worth $70 + tip?

Nintendo's first party games have had the whole game on the cartridge. It's third parties that have been jerking off this game key card bullshit.

wifi settings can hack nintendo consoles

bluetooth can hack nintendo consoles

a fucking paperclip can hack nintendo consoles

nintendo jailbreak autists will find a way within days

no one wants mouse controls

hell they're probably doing it because the OS they're using has mouse support

Good post

The most retarded thing here is how they showed the gimmick in the direct. Instead of I don't know maybe an rts? A total War game port? Maybe a Mario paint? No? FUCK YOU CRIPPLE BALL AND 5 SECONDS OF CIV7.

The fuck were they thinking?

seethe harder then kill yourself

The one game they prominently advertise with motion controls bombs

Yes like 80 million wii sports or 20 million switch sport

we want the PC audience

you delusional greedy fucks will never get us PChads to play on your little shitty fisher-price toy

nintendo only makes retardedly expensive 64gb cartridges the only option for 3rd parties if they want the full game on them

They choose to avoid them so they don’t take a huge loss with physical and go with game key cards instead

”nooo it’s their fault for not taking the loss!”

Maybe nintendo should’ve given them more options if they wanted their games to not be key cards

There are virtually zero games that support mouse input on the Switch

How the literal fuck am I supposed to use mouse controls on my recliner 10 feet away from the TV? Fuck Nintendo. I'm paying for shit I can't use because some onions guzzling retards want to act like their gay little fisher price toy is fucking computer.

Maybe Nintendo will take inspiration from you and add a built-in projector to their next console

Switch confirmed to be MOGGED

a fucking paperclip

you can put the paperclip in your ass. The bug was in the usb module and a paperclip hacked nothing
also

wifi settings

bluetooth

citation needed

This isnt inovation, this is straight plagiarism
The Lenovo Legion Go did this first and better

modern mice work on any opaque surface.

And with the switch2 that number goes from 0 to 4

welcome tour, a PAID tech demo

JamboreeTV, another tech demo disguised as DLC

Crippleball, which no one gives a fuck about

MP4 (“+$10, goyim!”)

Totally worth the effort, isn’t that right, huh

maybe if 3rd parties made games that people would actually want to play they wouldn't be trying to cut corners to save a few dollars on production

that garage game support a real mouse

that shit was ass though, Switch method is 1000x better

I accept your concession

Nobody cares

you seems upset eric

vegans once again seething over a console they will never use in their lifetimes

this is what happens when you have zero games to occupy your time

implying that Nintendo won't release their own Nintendo brand mouse that only works with the switch2

It was that or third parties don't release on the Switch 2 at all. They're not going to lose an extra $16 to sell on Nintendo's system, if people want to play their game they can do it on PC or Playstation.

no game will use in future trust me

Nintendo will make 0 good games that utilize it

Metroid Prime 4 uses it.

you guys really have the biggest victim complex

The ds4 touchpad is retarded.

Xbox's camera based video controls sucked ass.

Everything Not Nintendo is bad
Only Nintendo is Good, if Sony had the joycon mouse it would've been shit because it's not Nintendo
You're right sis!

This looks uncomfortable

nta but nintendo is getting really cocky so Im betting on them getting real high security on the usual stuff but getting retarded/cheap on some other and getting fucked. a good example is how they are finally getting rid of ptp online nad getting some actual servers, thats one place where things could go wrong if they dont cover accordingly.

mfw they only implement this on animal crossing: even more of a doll house edition

On the bright side women will love to have sims 4 on this

Maybe nintendo should’ve given them more options if they wanted their games to not be key cards

Maybe third parties shouldn't be such Jewish fsggots.

Please have some respect, Eric is on his death bed right now, he's allowed for one last shitpost week

The whole point of ac was to be a dollhouse sim. You were probably poisoned by tree house shit

hey that's pretty cool

Bro that has to be like 6k dpi for what purpose

Now tell me, are you gonna be playing MP4 with an actual controller, or will you be rubbing the joycon on your thighs to play instead

I wonder how emulator intend to simulate the whole rotation system of this mouse.

This would be a neat feature if it wasn't so obviously focused more on the setup of your average nip household, where they are sitting on the floor in front of a low table, and as such, using a mouse would not be uncomfortable.
But everywhere else in the world, you probably have a couch in front of a coffee table or something similar where using a mouse would be very uncomfortable.

Maybe nintendo should’ve given them more options if they wanted their games to not be key cards

What realistic suggestion are you thinking of, a BluRay drive on the back like a damn PSP?

uh oh! retard alert

Real time strategy game soon?

I'm going to rub the joycon on the lift top coffee table (same model as picrel) that I've owned for the past 15 years. If I play it while visiting my parents, I'll rub it on a TV tray instead. I don't understand people who have no comfortably accessible flat surfaces in their living room.

Kys Abdul
Kys tranny

2-player rail shooters.

The ds4 touchpad is retarded.

The touchpad is amazing. It goes you a lot of extra inputs on a part of the controller that would otherwise go unused. If you for some reason decided you wanted to play an old PC game without controller support where the number keys are your only option for weapon switching, the PS4/5 controllers are some of the few options that would let you do it comfortably.

Motion controls have been improved and used in almost every controller since the Wii with good success. The DS and WiiU screen serves the same function of the touchpad I described above with more customization options, but at a higher cost. I don't care for Switch being a hybrid console, but that is something that many people seem to appreciate. That all seems like a fairly good success rate. The things that aren't so useful like the microphone and speakers are at least cheap enough and don't detract from the controller.

I'd say the main issue with innovation applying to both of these responses is simply getting people to use it and appreciate it. It is largely a problem from developers doing a bad job. It would be nice if consoles would make something on par with Steam's input system where we could sidestep developers who are unwilling to provide options. It seems odd, but good controller support is honestly one of the main reason I prefer PC over the consoles that come with the controller I am using.

The mouse is a useless innovation

You need to seriously stop thinking you have anything to contribute with your posts.

nintendo claims with the switch 2 you can control rodents

Also Hypnospace Outlaw

They already cheap out on anything they could

Nah not really.

You don't even need any of those. I use a wireless mouse directly on the couch cushion next to me to control the PC connected to my TV. It's perfectly comfortable, never had any issues.

The innovation isn't the mouse, because that was already invented and usable on consoles. The "innovation" is adding unergonomic mouse like capabilities to a cheap Happy Meal controller. If you had a brain and wanted to use mouse controls you would simply use a mouse.

I don't find it comfortable to operate a mouse that low down. I need some sort of elevated surface so my wrist and forearm can be straight.

Maybe nintendo should’ve given them more options

They did and they chose the cheapest option while Nintendo did something so they don't try cloud only crap like SE did with KH collection screwing everyone else.

Technically this is the first instance of a system where multiple players can control a game with a mouse on a single local system.

That's a pretty big innovation when you think about it. Mouse control has always been strictly limited to one player per system up until now.

I will try both and choose whichever I liked more.

sofas exist in japan

It is very comfortable if you're slouching back or laying on your side. If you're sitting straight up then yeah you'd need a table.

It's also the only system where you can seamlessly go between mouse and gamepad controls without switching devices.

They cheaped out on authentication on their CDN for years which is why freeshop was possible.
Though to be fair they weren't the only one. Sony is actually still doing this.

You're right, that's huge. Now four people can huddle around a desk and play cripple basketball together. This is gonna change the world!

This is the big one for me. Thinking I can use controller mode while exploring in MP4 then immediately switch to mouse for combat.

nah we'll play the goldeneye and perfect dark multiplayer in 4p splitscreen

Paraplegic simulator XD

Cool option, but you'd need to set up a table in front of your TV or something.

Its tHE SAME FUCKING UI? EVEN THE GOD DAMN WII U TRIED ADDING A MII PLAZA TO MAKE IT UNIQUE

member HD rumble
I member

Mmmm Icecubes.

I pray there is no lag
Shooters actually being playable on console would be cool
Now jut gotta hope switch 2 gets the good shooters

It's a good UI, and it fits with the branding of the Switch 2 just being a continuation of what came before. Don't fix what isn't broken.

Wii u 2 lol

Lmao it’s the most boring ui out there. Nothing but a flat menu, the only themes you have available are black or white. and you can’t even organize your games like on the 3ds
Will agree on it fitting the switch 2’s branding: “souless”

that's clearly a rat in that thumbnail ,not a mouse

EVEN THE GOD DAMN WII U TRIED ADDING A MII PLAZA TO MAKE IT UNIQUE

Yeah and it was shit

It TRIED, and for that I can at least REMEMBER it as "Wii U's UI"
Also fuck you it was cool when miiverse was still around, it does lose a lot of charm without it

why release a new console at all then?

Based Nintendo. All the seething in this thread is delicious.

Metroid Prime 4
4K/60 fps
Mouse aiming

My dream game is almost here.

why release a new console at all then?

Anon Babble... where retards find company....

nintendo scamming their fanbase non stop

1080p120fps or death

It TRIED

And failed.
You might be too young for this but there was a time when consoles didn't have menus or just bypassed it if the disc was in.
These menus that you love so much are utterly worthless, unnecessary and soulless only serving to increase the load time on start up for absolutely nothing other than eye candy for kids on a display unit which don't really exist anymore anyway.

If you want menus, get a fucking pc. At least you can choose how that looks.

4k

lol

Still buying a Switch 2

Anon, it's not just about doing it the first, you have to execute the idea well. If it sucks, no one is going to give you props. If you do it successfully, that's when you get the praise.

notice how eric never address the fact the mouse actually capture angles in addition of the position.

You're talking about someone who's so mentally broken by Nintendo's existence that he replies to other people calling them himself.

It's like having a gaming PC, except for poor people!

United States Patent Application

Inventor: Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Title: Manual Cursor Control Device for Electronic Display Systems

Okay and?

Nintendo makes mouse controller

20 years too late for a boukenger game where you have to slide the controller down your arm to transform

is a mouse sensor that expensive?
they never dropped the ar cards from the 3ds

besides all first person games and mario maker 3 will support it

I think anon is making a joke about the future patent lawsuits Nintendo is going to file against mice manufacturers.

So he's retarded?

Nah it was a pretty clever joke. Did you not understand it?

You know that jokes need to be funny, right?

It was funny. You’re just a poor sport.

WOOOOW NO ONE HAS EVER DONE THIS BEFORE!

On a console, yes.

nintendo releases a separate mouse

NOOOOO WTF WHY IS IT SEPARATE NINTENDO SOOOO GREEDY

The problem is that you literally have n to be ignorant of the subject for it to be funny.

What kind of people are fit for the Nintendo community?

youtube.com/watch?v=x3_IblbOcRk

If you have to ask then you don't fit the criteria

what i wouldn't give for the Nintendo community to be pruned of faggots like you and for us to go back to the wii u period where it was just 13 million frens on a platform they actually like and discussed in good faith

Wii pointer and DS touch menus

serious wojak

Mouse menus

onions faced wojak

Why are people like this?

There would be no Nintendo community if you pruned all of the faggots, anon.

But I thought mouse and keyboard was the only way to play games! Were the years of smug PCfags wrong somehow?!?

I really don't see this getting much use even from devs.

Eh, there's a lot of games that could be brought to console now without compromise now.

Name three.

A solid chunk of rts games.

soulless icons

Even less reason to buy a switch

So shooters on PS/Xbox will be rendered completely obselete now uh?

factorio
inzoi
microsoft solitaire

Thats more like using a HOTAS as a mouse though.

Just like all the mobileshit and DS games that could make use of the Switch's touchscreen. Oh wait no games ever used it

This will be nice to have for the Switch 2 emulator, not sure why you would want this on real hardware.

They should just let you use any USB mice like every other console. Nintendo is fucking retarded.

You mean games that don’t really appeal to console players? Hate to break it to you but there’s more to it than needing a mouse.

There’s a reason most PC gamers continue to game at a desk. Using a mouse in a non desk setting is obnoxious.

Did you really just say that they could replicate DS games with a single screen because they have a single touchscreen?

Knowing nintendo they will most likely do that since you can use PS5/PS4 controllers on Switch 1.

You mean games that don’t really appeal to console players

So, who wants to explain to this anon why games that aren't traditionally on console don't appeal to console players?

once again exposing himself by pretending this is just a cursor, despite all demos using the rotation feature

They did

They did not, Nintendo is only giving devs the option of either a key card or a full on 64GB cart, no in between as the Arc System Works data breach ended up confirming:

Anon. I just want you to know this tokubro saw this post. There aren't enough Toku games in general

Shooters are going to feel amazing on Switch 2.

Splatoon 4 is gonna be lit.

There’s a reason most PC gamers continue to game at a desk.

NTA but that's because we don't have amy alternative

Typically it’s because console players don’t play video games at a desk, which is where keyboard and mouse players typically game from.

You wouldn’t understand, as you’ve obviously never used a PC to game.

So is it just analog stick emulation like all other mice for consoles? Why not just improve gyro and add flick stick? If it's analog emulation it will suck cocks if it's real mouse I doubt it's high quality one.

Call Kamiya and he will dedicate the rest of his life to make Toku games exclusively on Nintendo platforms if this gimmick is here to stay.

Typically it’s because console players don’t play video games at a desk,

Nope, it's because they aren't on console. They have no interest in getting a PC or are priced out by it so they literally haven't touched these games to form an opinion about them.

Do you think people just know what kind of games they like without playing at least one?

No anon, it’s because comfortable usage of a mouse requires an upright posture, which is NOT the posture most people adopt when using a controller.

Personally I’d like to see better controller support across the board instead of trying to make consoles support mouse controls.

because comfortable usage of a mouse requires an upright posture,

You clearly haven't used a PC before because everyone and their mother slouches.

imagine being a casual gamer trying to playing competitive shooters on the switch 2.

Splatoon 2 and 3 prove that gyro can compete with mouse

Now Splatoon 4 and Metroid Prime 4 are going to have forced mouse aim but no Gyro support to justify the gimmick

because comfortable usage of a mouse requires an upright posture,

I couldn't even imagine doing that for a long PC session, it sounds like fucking murder on the back.

You’re just making shit up at this point. There’s a reason console gamers and PC gamers typically have different games that they like.

For example, Diablo 2 resurrected was more widely played specifically because it didn’t force players to use a mouse.
Trying to bridge console players to the PC standard has been proven to have poor reception.

incoming warioware touched/smooth moves spiritual sequel

The arm of a couch can be used as a mouse surface if it's big enough. There are plenty of comfortable options.

Having poor posture at a computer is literally murder on the back.

But you’re both missing the point: an upright posture is required to allow the full arm motion needed to properly use a mouse. This arm motion is not required if you’re simply using a controller.
In fact, little to no arm movement is needed at all when using a controller.

There’s a reason console gamers and PC gamers typically have different games that they like.

Anon, you are aware that the most popular games for console and PC tend to be in the same genres right?
Have you ever actually looked at best sellers or playing now lists?

A couch sits you in a reclined position, which limits full range of motion of your arm. This naturally inhibits your ability to use a mouse properly.

I’ve played hundreds of hours of wow on a laptop on a couch. It’s simply not as comfortable as using a controller if that is an option.
People can cope like I did as a child, but the simple fact is that using a keyboard and a mouse optimally is better when you’re not reclined.

Plenty of games only use one screen to begin with and they already did it with the Wii U virtual console

but the wii u had two screens

DS games were fully playable on the tablet

Wasn't it already confirmed that Prime 4 will have the same control options as Prime Remastered?

an upright posture is required to allow the full arm motion needed to properly use a mouse.

Sure if you're a manlet who can't reach the desk with the chair at the highest height. Us normal people aren't that disadvantaged.

And? Every single one of those games has controller support on PC and on console, and console players naturally use controllers.

Your example shows exactly why it’s so strange for Nintendo to try and reverse what is essentially industry standard at this point.

If people were already reporting getting cramps and other problems just from playing the Metroid Prime 4 demo after a while, playing RTS games with that will not be a good experience.

it’s because console players don’t play video games at a desk, which is where keyboard and mouse players typically game from.

I had a long reply ready to go to try to say this. It's assumed if you play games on your desktop PC you have already have the desk setup in front of you for the mouse, keyboard, display, etc. I'd have no desire to move around my coffee table or whatever table I have in the room and hunch over that to use this mouse feature on select games that won't even feel comfortable to play after 15-20 minutes maximum.

Plenty of games only use one screen to begin with and they already did it with the Wii U virtual console

You're talking about the DS, not the 3ds.

So you don’t have a properly functioning shoulder? Because the blocking of motion by your shoulder being nice and comfortable is what limits the full range of motion.

But you’re defending using a mouse on a couch, so it’s obvious you’ve never actually spent time actually doing this. Anyone who’s tried knows how uncomfortable it is.

I don't think so. The only parts of the game that were shown to have a gyro aim option were the ones where you're in a scripted locked in state where you have to for example shoot 4 switches on a door.

Sounds like you're too scared to say it out loud.

It's assumed if you play games on your desktop PC you have already have the desk setup in front of you for the mouse, keyboard, display, etc. I'd have no desire to move around my coffee table or whatever table I have in the room and hunch over that to use this mouse feature on select games that won't even feel comfortable to play after 15-20 minutes maximum.

It’s just strange since it feels like the industry has accepted this fact. We see PC ports to console ALWAYS go through extreme efforts to make sure the controller support is optimal.

Meanwhile we rarely see the reverse. General expectation is that PC gamers are more capable of adapting, whereas console players are less adaptive to differing control schemes.

Because the blocking of motion by your shoulder being nice and comfortable is what limits the full range of motion.

Oh wow, you really are a manlet. Who puts their shoulder into moving a mouse?
Even if anyone ever played like that someone with a functional shoulder still have that movement while slouching.

You really have never used a PC before.

UR A MANLET

who taught you how to form an argument, Anon Babble?

new feature bad

kys

Because the blocking of motion by your shoulder being nice and comfortable is what limits the full range of motion.

NTA but
1) even if that were true you could just increase the dpi
2) no one moves their arm past their elbow when using a mouse even in the most extreme situations.

You'd do better than the casual on PS5 or Xbox.

Mfw Nintendo patents laser mice and we, poor mustards, will have to go back to cleaning balls.

get insulted

rage so hard you can only read one word of a post and not the actual argument.

Your height is definitely a touchy subject

Bait used to require a modicum of actual brain function.

Answer me you cute fucks.
Is it real mouse?

Could you imagine if patents worked like that?

Try to move your mouse back on a couch. Eventually, you’ll be unable to because there is no room for your elbow to retreat.

I’m sure you can figure out how to manage, but from years of experience doing this EXACT thing playing WoW I can attest that it never becomes comfortable.
Which is why the industry doesn’t even attempt to change up controller standards for console players anymore.

Fuck nintendo and their jewish lawyers

ITT zoomers that dosent know about Mario Paint

it’s still weird how you’re trying to shift a discussion about using a mouse on a couch to one about height.
But we both know why now don’t we ;)

Eventually, you’ll be unable to because there is no room for your elbow to retreat.

Do you not have a functional arm? Or do you just play your games with your arms all the way back by default like a stereotypical typical nerd?

But we both know why now don’t we

Yeah, because you don't have much of an argument do you. If you did you would GS answered it.

WoW doesn't really need a mouse. Tab target mmo issue is the buttons. You can technically adapt WoW to use XIV control scheme and mix it with gyro for AOE aim.

How fucking nigger tier retarded did the Pocketpair devs have to be to get raped by Nintendo of all people?

This really looks like something exactly one game will use and then everyone will forget about it.

NTA but we as humans have these things called wrists.

lol massive cope
I guess you just have a shitty couch that operates more like a chair without a back.

wow doesn’t really need a mouse

Yea if you’re a shitter I’m sure you can get away with believing that. But for any rational human being why would they want to limit their field of view so significantly?

I'm talking about both, the point is that Nintendo already showed that it's possible to implement these types of games on one touchscreen. They just refuse to do it anymore because every piece of shit on the Switch/2 has to be playable in handheld/tabletop/TV modes with every combination of peripherals. And that's why these gimmicks that favor certain modes don't see widespread adoption even from Nintendo themselves

Ok, use your wrist to move your mouse directly down.
Enjoy your carpel tunnel.

Adding more options

REEEEEEEEEEE

Did you run out of things to seethe about?
So you say it would be better if they didn't include this objectively positive feature?
And all of their games are on cartridges. You're not fooling anyone by posting a Mario pic, Snoy.

toby fox delayed one of the most anticipated games of all time for this gimmick

Yea if you’re a shitter I’m sure you can get away with believing that

What does it even mean? You don't click on skills in MMO unless you're shitter. All your skills are on the buttons. It's tab target MMO. You don't move using mouse either. WoW controls can be adapted to gamepad.

Wow’s camera was made to be controlled with a mouse. Only inexperienced players don’t realize how much of a detriment it is to not actually move your camera.

Just use a wireless trackball. I’ve been using one for years. Makes it much easier to sit on your couch and play games.

Wow’s camera was made to be controlled with a mouse

Just use gyro.

Blizzard is too cheap to update their system to use that. Simply plugging the gyro into the camera isn’t enough to make it work properly.

who was asking for extra buttons on top

who was asking for a thumbstick

who was asking for the controller to shake

who was asking for two screens

who was asking for touch input

who was asking for motion control

who was asking for a hybrid console

pdfs are retarded, news at 11

Well gyro will work if you use steam n shit but the hotbars and skills are biggest issue. That's why it's all "technically". They did some magic with D2R.

I think the camera control is the biggest issue for WoW and isn’t a problem for Diablo.

I remember a while back they were hinting at controller support for wow but they stopped talking about it. I don’t think they are willing to pay the money to have an engineer design proper controller for WoW, which is weird since you’d think they would want to force WoW on to consoles at some point. Seems more inline with their gameplay loop in retail.

pp literally doesn't know what patents are

Nintendo reveals Arceus

palworld reveal

pp restart development to change engine and take Arceus mechanics

Nintendo had them patented three years before they released the game

get btfo'd

would have gotten away with it if it weren't for those meddling palworldfags egging Nintendo on

That's how

Anon Babble now hates m+kb, i already know what happened so i dont have to ask

lever elbow

bend wrist

mouse moves down

no carpel tunnel

Its just that easy
Alternatively just use your mouse at an angle you retard.

Something extremely underrated that nintendo displayed (just for a bit) is that the console can detect mouse rotation.
Probably all mouses can, but its NEVER used or tracked or even sent to the OS.

It's absolutely retarded that we can't use mouse rotation.

They really should have shown off Mario Paint and that JP exclusive Mario Paint 64 as a Switch 2 exclusive.

You can already play xiv on console, and it sucks. Your APM is like 3 times less using a gamepad. Console hardware is also very slow compared to a PC because it’s like 3 times less the price.

Who rotaes a fucking mouse?

Snoyniggs are trying to take over every platform, but their hypocrisy is too blatant.

the home console, famous for having flat surfaces handy to use a mouse on

You can already play xiv on console, and it sucks.

It's not. XIV is better to play on gameplad for the feel. If you don't know how it works you use R2+L2 options to swap buttons. People clear ultimates on gamepads in WoF. Plus unlike XIV WoW doesn't have complex rotations. You just spam same move over and over. The only issue is healing. Healing in WoW isn't possible without mouse/gyro control.

Would give you 3rd dimension for flying a plane.

Everything Not Nintendo is bad

Only Nintendo is Good

glad you finally get it

I didn’t know people buy consoles to stare at the system menu

No one because it does nothing, but if it did, i can bet that at least blender users would.

people who can

$96 for an almost quarter decade old game

Lmao, how the fuck hasn't this blown up in media yet?

Probably all mouses can, but its NEVER used or tracked or even sent to the OS.

no they don't and can't. It's not a software thing.

I don’t usually like gimmicky shit but at least Nintendo did something with it. Sony didn’t do anything with the ds4 touchpad, all it did was drain the controller battery

So where are these mouse for consoles that have taken off before? I'm pretty sure they all failed. If they did work then there would've seen a surge in RTS games.

Anon we have already seen more games use the Switch 2s mouse controls pre launch than the PS4 touch button did within its entire lifespan.

Notice how many steps you have to do to do something simple like move your mouse?
That’s why mouse usage in consoles is not widely adopted.

Why go through such ridiculous effort when you can just use a controller?

the problem with rts is that you need a community to play online and there isn't enough players interested to sustain many games.solo games are probably be more popular. Sims like, solo strategy, I could see indies go back to point and clicks for the better and worse.

I'm pretty sure they all failed

All of them emulate analog stick movement. This is garbage and not the same as real mouse works. Did you see all those MLG PRO mouse devices for consoles? Basically what they do is trying to turn this analog emulation into something similar to speed and accuracy of the mouse movement. And consoles still recognize them as gamepads.

XIV with controller actually feels good, but that’s because square has been designing their system for controller support for years now.

Point is, it takes some serious development to have a controller scheme work for an MMO. Something blizzard isn’t willing to pay for.

Palworld is mouse-compatible.
The patent on using a mouse is probably being written right now.

also copypaste from some anon post

gyro measures angular velocity, this is then used to change the angular velocity of the camera in game, i.e. look around

mouse measures linear velocity, this is then used to change the angular velocity of the camera in game

virtually the same thing, only difference is angular velocity i.e. rotation vs linear velocity i.e. translation.
compared to

stick is moved to an absolute position that is then translated into a velocity that is then used to change the angular velocity of the camera in game

It's that additional step of translating a stick's absolute values into a relative velocity that makes them shit for any kind of precision camera movement.

Makes a webm just to be angry about something

mouse

innovation

Nigga, the PS1 had one if you wanted to.
Pretty sure the fucking NES also had one available, during that weird era were they tried to sell it as an home computer to write business report and shit.

This.

They can't.
Mouse is never going to be the main mode of using Switch 2 games, because of handheld mode + the many people playing on a couch with no convenient hard surface nearby.

Nigga, the PS1 had one if you wanted to.

Pretty sure the fucking NES also had one available

As usual, Anon Babble troons are fucking retarded. It's not about Switch 2 having a mouse. It's about the controller becoming a mouse. Which is seriously cool. Can't wait to see how Nintendo use this games going forward.

It's about the controller becoming a mouse. Which is seriously cool. Can't wait to see how Nintendo use this games going forward.

Seems more like a gimmick. Why would I want to use my controller as a mouse instead of using my controller as a controller?

Joy sticks are already capable of the majority of tasks we need a mouse for.

I just want the gamepad + mouse combo to be popularized.

Notice how many steps you have to do to do something simple like move your mouse?

You are aware that it takes just as many motions from the shoulder, right?
If you pull back the shoulder you still have to lever your elbow to get the full range of motion.

Which is seriously cool.

Except every demo of it look fucking awful.
Bad mouse is bad mouse.
Slapping bad shit on a product doesn't make it better.

The point is that you require more steps of motion than just using the controller, which is why controllers are more popular for gaming than keyboard and mouse.

you must have an abnormally high estrogen level and believe in toxic masculinity to be a true nintendo fan

Anon, two motions isn't more than two motions.

Anon, moving your wrists, arms, and shoulder is more motion than moving your thumb.

Why would I want to use my controller as a mouse instead of using my controller as a controller?

You can do both. Metroid Prime 4 is the perfect example. Use one joycon to navigate and the other joycon to aim. This transcends a standard controller and I cannot wait to play the new Metroid like this.

The PS1 had a mouse.

Nigger, mouse in general uses more motions. Your argument wasn't kb+M v controller you know.

So you’re saying this is a gimmick for Metroid Prime? Makes sense, I guess.

The PS1 had a mouse

See

What do you think you're trying to argue here exactly?

So you’re saying this is a gimmick for Metroid Prime?

No, I'm saying you're seething and you will continue to seethe for the duration of Swirch 2's eight year life cycle. Which is glorious to me.

Anon, moving your wrists, arms, and shoulder

... consolefag, if you need to move that much to use a mouse, you really need to learn how to configure your mouse's DPI.

Your argument wasn't kb+M v controller you know.

Yes it was.

mouse in general uses more motion

Yes, which is why it generally isn’t as favored as a controller when it comes to gaming.

It's funny, isn't it? They started adding a bunch of pc features to consoles and just didnt stop.

you can buy a console so you don't have to deal with the hassle of pcs!

now you can play CDs and watch DVDs on your console!

now you can connect to the internet with your console!

look, you can use a keyboard on your console!

now you can send messages and chat with your friends!

now your consoles have internet browsers in them!

now there are various models of each console, with different hardware which affects performance!

look, now you can use a mouse on your console!

Like who the fuck is all of this for? What even is the point of consoles if they're just going to be PCs except with a shitload of limitations?

Why are you responding to me if you don’t understand what you’re discussing?

consolefag

Yes, it’s generally consolefags who buy consoles like the Switch. Astute observation.

It’s about the controller having an AR camera built inside. Which is seriously cool. Can't wait to see how Nintendo use this games going forward.

I'd say the important part is simply that it is part of the default package. I can't think of any accessory that launched as a separate product that has had any real success. Assuming they let you use connect a regular mouse, it will probably be better than the joycon. However, simply having it on the joycon means that developers can add mouse controls knowing that everyone will have access to it. That is the big difference here compared to the numerous other consoles that have supported mouse but had not games that support mouse.

Makes sense for Nintendo business wise since 3rd party games sell. They want to be able to have as many cross platforms on the switch as possible.

giving 3rd parties options was what caused this problem in the first place. Third Parties are animals that need to be herded, not people who can be reasoned with.

didn't the 3DS hackscene start thanks to a poorly coded downloadable game

Yes.

I can almost guarantee nintendo tried that only for them to go “fine, then we won’t put our games on the switch 2.” Nintendo needs them more than they need nintendo

when i can no longer play palworld on pc with kbm because nintendo invented the mouse

Nintendo needs them more than they need nintendo

You're saying that like they haven't generally had failure after failure these days. It's more likely that Nintendo 8s doing this to show how anti-consumer they really are.

instead of porting their games to PC, Nintendo ports PC to Nintendo hardware

Holy based.

I though only the right controller was a mouse.

Listen Nintendo is canonically 20 years in the past technologically. They haven't figured out that mice can have different dpi than their 2000s computers

based
nintendo should sue everyone stealing their motion input technology

Maybe stop doing dumb gimmicks that aren't even new to gaming and focus on making other shit better so it's not as embarrassing playing on the leapfrog tablet v2

nintendo are the only hardware manufacturers trying to improve console controls so that aiming in particular is more player dependant

REEEEEEEE ITS SHIT EVERYBODY DOES THIS SO NINTENDO INVENTED THE MOUSE???? OH MY BLACKED RAW NOW WHERES MY AIM ASSIST

never change Anon Babbletrannies

Well for one shooters and strategy games would be viable option on the switch 2. Its not the case on playstation or xbox. At least not out of the box. Consoles are all about convenience and having the switch have a mouse incorporated is going to extend the catalogue potential into things that only used to make sense on pc.

This can be played with up to four mice.

strategy games would be viable option on the switch 2

They have always been. I did C&C, RA1 and WCII on the PS1 with a controller.
And Halo Wars was designed specifically for that, with consolefags' favorite IP on top of it.
The problem was never the control method, the problem was always the playerbase itself.

its nice to have a mouse built in for things like mario paint and dreamsettler

Switch 1's menu but now you have a mouse cursor

Seems more like a pain in the ass to get set up than a handy novelty. Only tendies are deep throating this news.

Lol
LOL

you people haven’t cleared anything

BotW uses motion controls.
Doom16 does.
All 3 splatoons.
SS hd.
Metroid Prime1 HD.
etc.
Any game with gyro aiming is motion controls.
Why are you lying?

Gyro ≠ wagglan

Civ 7 is a launch title

Switch 2 is a better FPS console than playstation or xbox

Gyro controls in Splatoon have made this true for a long time. Shitty mouse wagglan won't get used in FPS games.