What the actual fuck did Edmund mean by this?

What the actual fuck did Edmund mean by this?

We buffed a bunch of 0/10 items to be 1/10

This means you shouldn't be mad at us for nerfing the hardest character in the game even more than he already was

Binding of Isaac has some actually unavoidable damage in it. There's nothing you can do if Delirium decides he's going to telefrag your ass as Tainted Lost now because T. Lost can't even find Book of Shadows or Glowing Hourglass anymore. The only way for you to beat Delirium is to get a build so busted you insta-kill him from the other side of the room. It was already trivial to win a run as a normal character, so buffing some of the shitty bean items isn't going to change anything for the rest of the cast. For the characters that are actually difficult, the game is definitely more nerfs than buffs.

CHEW SLOWER

What did you need 10 seconds of invincibility for? Just don't get hit!

Where did this meme come from?

Just play a different game. Hopefully you pick one not so satanic.

Okay cool, I'll just go back to playing DOOM

what about the cope that steakmund had nothing to do with this update? fucking stupid cunts.

He probably didn't have anything to do with it since he's working on Mewgenics. Most likely he just has Nicalis working on ruining the game and informing him about all the seethe they cause.

But you literally kill Satan in Isaac. Twice. You kill him and then kill his true form.

tell us what you want buffed

yea nah he'll nerf it more lmao

Stat ups equivalent to Magic Mush

No

Stat ups that at least slightly increase your DPS

Yes

T.Lost isn't the hardest

Yes he is. T. Eden isn't as hard since he can actually get Book of Shadows.

I feel like isaac has an issue of almost always making you so powerful that you cant feel the bosses. Even stuff like Delirium that used to be tense/anxious to me like a new player feels trivial because good luck getting as far as the fucking void without becoming overpowered with all these items and pickups along the way
Doesnt make much sense how people bitch so much about bad items, they feel mostly good or great to me, at least serviceable/potentially and most likely eventually useful

t.lost no book of shadows or hourglass

kinda gay but also kinda respectable change
Or maybe im saying this out of spite because i didnt get those a single time while doing his completion marks

Doesnt make much sense how people bitch so much about bad items, they feel mostly good or great to me

I agree.
There's no "bad" items in Isaac anymore, at least now. Back in OG Isaac maybe yeah you'd get a sister maggy or brother bobby or two, but most items in Rep+ are more situational than outright bad.

What are you talking about? It's pretty rare to get an overpowered run these days, especially compared to Rebirth/AB/AB+. All of the run-breakers were nerfed out of the game. D20 was nerfed. Jera was nerfed. Restock was nerfed. Steam Sale was nerfed. Humble Bundle was nerfed.

Maybe 1/20 of my winning runs are broken.

What's baffling to me is why he removed the Book of Shadows to the t. lost when Gamekid, Power Pill, etc are still in the game for him. It makes no sense.

didn't moms underwear get like 4 blue flies as a buff, these retards do not know how to buff items but are more than willing to nerf shit like tech x and god head for some fucking reason, it's a roguelite i think rare items should be good.

No he isn't. His general pool is so absurd that you can get to unkillable monster status much more easily than other characters. I've done hard Delirium 3 times with him already, all legit.

are devil deals still abyssal dogshit time wasters compared to angel deals? i feel like almost every item in that pool is fucking dogshit now, especially ever since they got rid of cheesing deals.

Skill issue then, learn how to optimize your runs. Every other run I do I break the game, especially with T. Lost as the guaranteed super high luck makes it super easy.

There's no "bad" items in Isaac anymore,

Huh? What are you talking about?

Isaac's Heart

Anti-grav Tears

Tiny Planet

Cursed Eye

D7

D4

D10

D12

D100

E. Coli

Missing No.

Respawn items like Lazarus' Rags or Ankh

Clicker

Loki's Horns

Curse of the Tower

Shard of Glass

GB Bug

Mystery Egg

Blood Oath

Playdough Cookie

Rainbow Baby

King Baby

Dataminer

3 Dollar Bill

Tear Detonator

Marked

There's tons of useless or detrimental items still in the game. Several items still brick runs. Not to mention that the item pool is more bloated with guff than ever.

They'll do anything to keep the player hardstuck on completing T Jacob or T Lost's marks. God forbid if the player actually gets OP items in a run.

no defensive items
offensive items only
that's the whole gimmick

has some actually unavoidable damage in it

that's a good intended mechanic, it reduces tolerance for later mistakes

There's no "bad" items in Isaac anymore

lol, lmao

Mom's Heels now deal minor contact damage

Mom's Underwear now spawns 6 flies

Mom's Lipstick now spawns 3 half hearts

Oh yeah, I'm feeling all those buffs. This more than makes up for being unable to find Epic Fetus anymore or devil deals being worthless.

Did you not read what I wrote? He still has a bunch of defensive items, including some with virtually the same function. What made the Book of Shadows so special? Is not even that good.

game where health is a resource used for getting more items

buff an item by giving it fucking contact damage

genuinely cursed development.

gamekid/powerpill are offense items that provide invulnerability
book of shadows is exclusively a defense item
again, that's t.lost's whole gimmick if you look at the item pools otherwise

You need items like that in the pool or otherwise taking items during Curse of the Blind would have no consequences. I don't agree with the poster that said "there are no bad items", but I do agree with the "items are mostly good or at the very least situational" statement, it's very hard to brick your run unless you don't know what you're doing.

What made the Book of Shadows so special?

4.5 volt
The Battery
48 hour energy pills
Panic Button

Taking items during Curse of the Blind SHOULDN'T have game ruining consequences.

Because you get to keep your DPS with Book of Shadows, and that's just not fair (according to Edmund)

what makes this item so special

what about these OTHER items you also need to show up

this is such a retarded line of thinking and plagues this entire game, synergies existing is the ENTIRE POINT OF THE FUCKING GAME IT'S WHAT MAKES ISAAC STAND OUT.

Yes it should. You always have the option to skip the items on the floor you're at. If there are no consequences to it you might as well remove it from the game.

You need items like that in the pool or otherwise taking items during Curse of the Blind would have no consequences.

ok then why not just make a special pool for curse of the blind items? why should they exist outside of that

straight up removing items from a character's pool is so stupid, just make it a challenge instead of messing with the character

Jesus Christ I played at a time where Devil deals were the only good thing and smell deals were trash.

Uh, yeah, that's a good thing. Curse of the Blind is probably the least interactive and least fun thing in Isaac. It just means that the only item you should ever even think of touching for an entire floor is the Boss Item. There's no counterplay other than getting Black Candle.

3 Dollar Bill is bad? I don't see a problem with it.

the firemind tears could blow you up

Just stay away from the enemy when they show up.

ever since repentance came out angel deals have been the premier choice cause of nerfs and mechanic removals.

I was on a run yesterday that every item in the treasure run was shit. I compensated by going for devil deals instead of angels (since I can start them earlier), doing downpour 2 to get 2 boss items and prioritizing the shop to get utility there. I ended up breaking the run again even though the first useful item in the treasure room was like in floor 6. It was fun.

I think some of Edmund's changes are not good, but looking at this thread you guys would absolutely ruin the game if you were in charge of it. Look at some of the suggestions in the thread:

Stat ups that at least slightly increase your DPS [for every item]

Lol. Lmao. You people really would absolutely destroy this game.

T.Lost already has a bunch of items removed from its pool by default, the character itself is the challenge

Devil Deal pools were bloated with trash, there are several layouts where Stan doesn't give you anything or just gives you 1 item, if you don't have enough red hearts for a 2 heart deal it'll take your Soul Hearts as well, The Lost can only get one item per Devil Deal (the other disappears), and loads of Devil Deal items were nerfed into uselessness, or at least to the point where you wouldn't ever want to pay the cost for them.

The only time you should bother checking out what Stan is offering is if you're playing as Keeper or Tainted Keeper since they pay $0.15 or $0.30 for Devil Deals instead of heart containers.

And since beating Mega Satan guarantees you get to go to Delirium now, it's optimal to go for Angels to get the key pieces to fight Mega Stan to clear out half of the post-it in one run

Or you roll the dice. Some people find that fun. God forbid having to balance risk/reward in a game with random elements.

i quit this shitload of fuck when i finally got onions milk + libra. they nerfed that shit into the ground when its supposed to be a reward for finding a rare combo! what were they thinking? im gonna fuck this guy's wife in front of him and call him a bitch. enjoy your steak, faggot. its got my cum on all over it.

There are loads of way to balance risk/reward without taking an entire floor out of the run.

Gambling isn't fun.

literally no one is saying bad runs shouldn't exist, it's a fucking rougelite the rng is the point, the problem is that both edmund AND kilburn want to take the fun of a roguelite our of a roguelite. THE LUCK IS PART OF THE GAME AND IT'S GENRE. if i wanted to only play a skill based bullet hell i can play one of the 20 fucking touhou games like i already have.

some of you are even please! . so i wanted to pop in

Is this post AI generated or something? Lmao.

James will eventually get to TBOI one day and that fact alone is devastating.

The Lamb, ??? and Mother also guarantee Delirium now.

like i genuinely don't understand how people can defend nerfing rare as fuck items like brimstone, tech x, god head, and fucking SYNERGIES that require multiple items to accomplish. like what the fuck is the point if every item is meant to be played in a vacuum and not together. why the fuck would i play isaac over other roguelites when the main draw of isaac is actively being taken out.

the most egregious nerf to devil deals was adding all of the floor layouts that gave you NOTHING but red chests.
there's no trading off of anything, just a big middle finger and some spiders.
If those rooms at least offered you an opportunity to trade health for power in some way, they might have been tolerable. But they're worse than getting a Krampus encounter since Krampus's 2 items are at least modestly useful.

I get hit by the unavoidable moms foot bug when delirium had literally 1 hp as t lost. That was the one and only time i cheated a mark in the game

who cares about god head when C.Section exist

Gambling isn't fun.

Then skip and play ultra safe. You can definitely clear most runs skipping a floor or two. But you sure picked the wrong game to play that way, as there are tons of "gambling" mechanics in Isaac that can fuck you over.

I don't get why people still torture themselves with this game when so many other games that too inspiration from just let you experiment and discover unintended combos.

God Head is harder to unlock and should be stronger.

i think rare items should be good but apparently thats a controversial take in isaac

Then skip an entire floor's worth of items and end up underpowered

Fuck off. I'm modding Curse of the Blind out.

the only other roguelite in existence that has even done good synergies in noita, every other game is just permanent stat upgrades for +1 damage

Rouglite but all the items you know, the most important part of proper rouge style game is useless

Why would anyone subject themselves to this CBT session?

Even after all the balance changes the game is still extremely volatile where you either

snap the game in half and instantly clear every room in 0.3 seconds

get 0(zero) damage ups and the run becomes so miserable the longer it goes on there isn't much reason to even continue it

If anything he should make getting some items easier, not to casualizs things, but make random unlocks more feasible than just being strictly RNG driven. Like I shouldn't have to backpack spindown in a secret room just to get a single item needed for an achievement.

devil deals was adding all of the floor layouts that gave you NOTHING but red chests.

there's no trading off of anything, just a big middle finger and some spiders.

The fix to that could be Number Magnet, but the problem is you won't get that trinket in every run so you're basically shit out of luck kek

item now deals 9 damage instead 10, it's trash

people who defend this patch are buckbroken. just mind raped beyond comprehension.

you have to genuinely be a fucking retard to realize an item doing a static amount of damage now instead of what it used to do (scaling with your own damage) is a massive fucking nerf.

well just grave the enemies with the aura

GOD HEAD HAS HOMING, why the fuck would you make an item where you actively have to fight against one of it's intended use. also this is an item you actively have to grind for on a challenge character. genuinely why the fuck are we nerfing items like this.

he told people (the dev) that his game was like a fine steak and if you "rushed it" (i.e rerolling for better starts) you were wasting it and to "Chew slower"

It's hilarious when retards like him try to pretend they know what he's talking about when he hasn't touched the game in years. Just tell your retard devs to rollback the shitass patch and have them learn to not patch fun out of your game, moron.

Godhead is still autowin so I'm not sure what you're going on about.

also

is apart of the angel room pools which is already something you won't see as often

you lose out of devil deals since you have to skip them for angel rooms (but devil deals suck anyways so whatever i guess)

and the item is just rare in general

again what is the point of nerfing this.

Afterbirth + was the best. I miss getting Jera + Blank Card almost every run. Shit was cash.

it still strong as shit and can win runs by itself, piercing just makes the item even stronger

that it sets a bad precedent for the rest of the games balancing, and we are clearly seeing that now, they don't play the game.

half of the things you listed arent straight up bad, just situationally good

mountains of molehills

I miss unique interactions like Azazel + Rubber cement making it so your brimstone becomes a full range brimstone when bouncing it off a wall. No idea why they nerfed that. It's a 1 in 100s chance to happen that wasn't even that much more broken than regular rubber cement for other characters

I'm just happy that he didn't put in more cheevos

I missed it when Maw had a rare chance of dropping black hearts.

I think Isaac is the only game I've ever played where it feels like the devs genuinely hate you for playing it

they've definitely thrown some really emotional tantrums, the whole The Lost ARG puzzle being the most prominent.

the dataminers beat the puzzle solvers by only like an hour and Edmund had his famous steak meltdown all because he thought he was more clever than thousands of puzzle addicts.

People usually abuse it but I think Issac IS one of the few games where the devs genuinely fucking hate their playbase and make spite patches solely to fuck them over

The only ones that are situationally good are the tear modifiers and only if you get one of the rare items that unfucks them. There are some decent Tiny Planet synergies but your run is fucked unless you have them before picking up Tiny Planet.

vinny vinesauce did an interview with him and tyrone once after the lost's ARG was blown wide open by dataminers and they compared it to buying a steak and immediately horfing it down instead of savoring it

why is this game even still being updated with arbitrary balance patches, i thought they were done with that final DLC a while years back. and before that they were done with the DLC before.

The sauce boss does it again...

The only ones that are situationally good are the tear modifiers

D7 is literally extra free shit (at the cost of having to reclear a room)
hell if you get 9volt or the trinket to make it 2 charges it becomes a game break in any big room

kill yourself tranny lover

They're trying to improve online coop for the 10th anni and doing a minor balance patch at the same time.

Yeah these updates haven't been going to the single-player version

What are your opinions on controller on PC players?

I think they're cool and handsome and good at games

Aww thank you :3

No problem me