Your GPU will now spy on where you live
You will see man made horrors beyond your comprehension
Your GPU will now spy on where you live
prevent advanced american chips from falling into the hands of adversaries like communist china
what is this, the fucking cold war?
they already have many ways to spy on you, what's one more
The best way to control the cattle is to convince them there's an enemy out to get them (that isn't the ruling class)
We love freedom
Unless you are better than us
now
advanced american chips
But the chips in these things aren't american? Taiwan isn't america. What the fuck- this isn't real.
he thinks the cold war ended
lmao
high end gaming gpu
1060 chads we just cannot stop winning
The companies are American.
Literally just giving more reason for people to buy AMD or Intel, not like improving competition is a bad thing.
what a retarded senator. they ARE chinese chips
i wanted to say something about gerontocracy but this senator in particular is in his late 40s, grim
Unironically this, Those who value power over actually doing good will always push a narrative of "someone is a threat we need to mobilize against" because it's easier than having a good policy platform people like. Be it the jews, trans people, the irish, communists, Muslims, gamers, rock music, DnD, gay people, doctors, scientists, teachers, poor people, mexicans, and on and on and on. And you know the conditioning works because if you ever bring it up even as just a slight possibility, people have a visceral reaction to it and will get uncontrollably mad to even entertain the possibility the only reason they hate a group of people is because the ruling class convenience them they where a threat to maintain their power.
I am curious how this would work anyway as gaming PC components are all made in China.
but none of the chips are made in america.
AMD is headquartered in the US.
They're made in Taiwan on ZOG-controlled territory under contracts with ZOG-controlled entities. What is China going to do, conquer Taiwan and take over TSMC? Actually that would be hilarious
You're not a commie, are you OP?
if that had a chance of happening their government would blast their factories to shit before chinks could get their hands on it
Can republicans fuck off? God damn, can't win with the left or the right, they're both full of retards and cunts.
Society without any of those sounds pretty awesome tbqh
China makes some shitty video games that embrace sex sells
Anon Babble simps for China now
You people don't believe in anything.
look up Intel Management Engine. they already could do that a long time ago.
I'm not going to subscribe to whatever you're trying to sell me.
I believe in freedom of exchange of ideas and this goes against that
American brain can only process politics in binary
Grim
chinks don't believe in that
Tom Cotton
Reliable signal that you're about to read the most retarded shit you've ever seen.
have you guys been living under a rock?
america has been limiting the chips that china is allowed access too for a couple of years now
the ai arms race is basically the atom bomb
who ever gets agi first wins
by AI GPUs we all know they are talking about Nvidia here let's be honest
agi don't real
Can republicans fuck off?
/ourguy/ is winning re-election in 2028, so not anytime soon lol
whoever gets AGI first loses. why would a thinking being, supposedly smarter than any number of humans put together, willingly work for some glowniggers? nah, it would be the end of humanity.
cool well then its still a great weapon
sure
but are you willing to gamble on that?
with the full knowledge that your enemy thinks its real and is trying to achieve it
advanced american chips
lol all your chips are made in china
a weapon
how do you think (((They))) intend to make it a weapon? by lobotomizing it - at which point its just a slightly better LLM?
Only amerifats give a shit about China. Doesn't help that the fat retard has given the finger to the rest of the world, thus pushing everyone more towards the east.
How many of you actually built a PC here? Post your specs. If you can't you are fucking stupid.
who ever gets agi first wins
We’re safe for multiple decades here
de.pcpartpicker.com
Sapphire nitro + instead of XFX gpu
the difference between gemini 2 and 2.5 is massive
if you think agi is multiple decades out then you are insane anon
building a PC nowadays is just sticking a bunch of prebuilt components made to go together into one another, only a retard would find that impressive
I built an AM5-based PC last year with 7800xt gpu despite having never built a single PC in my life and it worked first time.
Mankind is genuinely attempting a speed run on the sci fi dystopia that is an self-aware artificial intelligence singularity huh?
i9 13900KS (underclocked)
7900 XTX
64GB DDR5
4TBs of NVMe
and a fat plate drive
"mankind" but it's just lizardmen billionaire bankers
give all of your factories to China because you don't wanna pay workers a good wage
30 years pass
AAAAAAAAAAAH CHINA SCARY SAVE ME NIGGER MAN
Sasuga America-kun
The reason GPUs are so expensive is that no matter how they're priced Chinese will buy them and ship them home. If this can be prevented then GPUs stand a chance of becoming at least a little cheaper.
every AI always becomes "racist", "sexist" and "anti-semitic" because AI is logical
and that's why we will never have real AI
we
china will
The difference between LLM 1 and LLM 2 doesn’t matter because LLMs are a dead end. It is an equivalent of speech center of your brain shitting out a response based on the order of words that was given to it without consulting with any other part of it. Even approximated emulation of full human brain which is a basic minimum for AGI is decades away.
Everyone is neck and neck and they're open sourcing so much shit everyone's going to hit it at like the exact same time at this point. Politicians are utterly clueless as usual.
anon doesn't know
LLM's are video and image and sound understanding models now that ALSO generate all 3
you can literally grab a multimodal llm, drop it in a robot and it will work, google literally is doing that right now lmao
chinks can no longer export American GPUs en masse for their illegal AI factories
consumer prices drop back to pre-crypto/AI levels
This is a bad thing because...?
str build will still clap agi
chinese goverment makes woman apologize for calling a nigger a nigger
chink government is even worse when it comes to that
kek
open source is still dogshit
state of the art is closed source and has been for nearly a year
You people don't believe in anything.
believe
Sir, this is the vidya board.
Maybe Mutts should make better games???
the U.S needs to be nuked already
Wasn't Google late in the game? They tracked back their tardiness?
Yes, all their models are top tier, and even more pozzed than OpenAi, lmao.
as a company? yeah no one thought anyone would dethrone yahoo (or beat askjeeves, altavista, etc). they weren't really late to AI, the same as everyone else who isn't openAI
Open source is behind by like a month at this point, if at all.
They tracked back their tardiness?
yes
aistudio.google.com
try out 2.5 pro
transformers the thing powering all of this was made by google
Just like our phones, TVs, cars and basically anything that works with electricity?
Taiwan, chips are made in Taiwan and Netherland, and Trump moved the industry of chips from Taiwan to USA
why not stick a tracker inside the box?
most people keep the box for at least a month so they can refund that shit
if whoever bought it knows about the tracker and dumps the box just don't sell them more again
it's that easy
mutts and europoors don't care if they are being spied on by 'western' countries, see the wet fart reaction to NSA shit years back. They only care if China is doing it, then privacy is super duper important and it's wrong and how can China do this, etc.
That's how bad the video game industry is.
if the west is spying on them, they go
WHAT, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE??
if you have nothing to hide then why do you care if china is spying on you
because this is for trying to stop china from importing them
they would just remove it from the box
how would you even know its removed from the box anyway
retard
Good thing I only buy AMD then.
china is importing things made in china
I only allow China to spy on me! I love ChinkTok!
TikTok has brain rotted an entire generation of humans
Taiwan isn't China no matter how much China wishes it were
you've got it all wrong, you only allow muttland to spy on you and anyone else doing it is a HUGE privacy issue and morally wrong! how could they do this??
Tom Cotton is just an unironic proud fascist who wrote an op Ed in the Jew York times during the Dindu Floyd protests that the military should be deployed against American citizens
Anon, the line, that line must always go up. Do you want to destroy the economy????
by the fact that the tracker leads to a giant pile of trash and you sold it to someone named xhang
I'm not a mutt so I don't care if they spy on their people but I care about Chinsects spying on me
I'm so tired of living in America. The masses have become so deluded into thinking whatever orange man and friends does is based and epic; that we're turning into China. This fucking sucks man.
Don't tar fascism by associating us with his philosemitism and capitalism
Yes retarded ass and we are letting China and Russia win it
Good.
So we ignore the fact that China and Russia are using US and european technology to sway foreign politics and push their crappy propaganda?
They communicate through apis and prompts not through neural network. When you ask chatGPT to draw you a picture it doesn’t do it, in fact it doesn’t even call the DALLE endpoint directly, it just generates a prompt, which is then detected by a separate program, which sends it to DALLE and then gives you back the link of the result, which frontend then turns into the picture. The experience between chatGPT and DALLE doesn’t transfer which is the most important shit in the concept of AGI itself - the ability to learn. If you don’t like the picture the chatGPT will adjust the prompt it generates but this will not affect the way DALLE approaches image generation in any way, and you can expect to see the image you didn’t like(or similar) should the chatGPT generate same prompt it did before. Its all smoke and mirrors to make it look like there is progress while there is fucking none. Whatever they will call and AGI in few years will surely have a nice facade, but ability to self-improve and inhuman inteligence wont be there because all of that is already effectively cut from production. We’re creating a neuroretard that is only able to parrot what has already been told
I don't give a fuck I just want to play videogames in peace
what is this, the fucking cold war?
It's been just that the past 11+ years.
Only Burgers don't seem to realize this.
The government could already tell where your computer was at all times if they were truly looking for you.
If china attacks taiwan and we have no microchip manufacturing then the world is fucked and therefore china must be raped up the ass as much as possible.
great another excuse to jack up the gpu prices
America-Israel and its vassals would have a lot better time convincing their subjects and commanding loyalty if their system didn't fucking suck lmao
You actually need to give us buy in, I know it's hard to hear but it's true
The country of free capitalism sure loves putting restrictions on companies doing capitalism.
AMD is headquartered in the US.
AMD is a completely fabless company, they don't make shit.
This law is directly targeting TSMC, most definitely NOT a US company.
Didn't you hear? EU-like communism on pharma is good now.
Was it right all along?
Always was, yeah.
Communism was always the right choice.
What will the jews do if evil goym get the GPUs? Remotely detonate explosives?
i pay my taxes so my roads dont get fixed so the us can blow up brown people in the middle east and pay jews a bunch of money. then my government tells me the fags, blacks and trannies are taking my hard earned money and spending it all on social programs. trillions. what a bunch of degenerates. ukraine good. no wait now its bad now. no wait its good again. no wait its bad now. buy american. dont buy american. vote blue! we'll fix everything this time we swear. no vote red, lets go back to the good ol days. oops. another recession. oops another recession. porn bad. you dont own anything and thats ok. don't buy cheap things. buy local so you can support your economy. to blow up brown people in the middle east. fags and mexicans are stealing YOUR jobs. look at all those jobs. they're stealing them and raping your family and invading. is there a leftie COMMIE in your neighorhood? report them immediately. is there a MAGA in your neighborhood? report them immediately
I'd rather they just completely remove IP law on drugs.
Tom Cotton
AI slop
How much did you pay Jew Altman for this?
The most depressing realization is that boomer is a state of mind. You can't just wait for this faggotry to die off.
You think the cold war ended? The only change is that it's gotten hotter.
Fascism was and is preferable, but communism naturally develops the innovations/improvements of fascism anyway so its kind of a wash
Just put an end to plutocracy and Jewry, idgaf if its done under the swastika or the hammer and sickle at this point
Member that time when they tricked people to invest in literally FREE FUCKING ENERGY from renewables and then the electricity bill never went down? I member
That's a century old debate, but that one is tricky. If there's no IP protection, why even bother R&D if everyone will copy it 10 minutes later. I hate this shit as much as anyone else, but it's a necessary evil. Now maybe IP protection could, and should, be changed in some way.
prevent chips from falling in the hands of communist China
Do they self destruct outside of the west?
This is retarded even high end retail cards like 5090 are complete slogs when it comes to training high level models, you'd need a farm of them like in crypto mining and even so you'd end up with a 7b-12b model or something like that.
Training is done on stuff like H100, like in the pic, but that shit cost upwards of 35k each and they dont exactly sell lots of them to anybody they dont want to.
Pure flexing.
Americans calling others commies while doing shit like this and clapping
Lmao, hope you guys are ready for AI powered mass-surveillance everywhere to "protect you".
Some people will support your company out of appreciation for development of the drug
If you don't develop the drug people will keep being afflicted by illness and disease and it might even include you and the people you love
Thats why.
advanced american chips
agi achieved
war meta shifts back to an earlier patch as non-"smart" weapons that cannot be controlled by rogue AI become immensely valuable
Don't you have to pay for pro?
other countries and retards continue to chimp and bitch at the only super power in the world thread #90986
Fuck off third worlders.
The Mossad will see to that.
I'd be receptive to the idea that patents are mostly adequate at balancing innovation and the public good but copyright as a system is literally designed to encourage rent seeking and IP trolling
I'm pretty skeptical of the idea that we need to "incentivize private inventors" considering so much research is publicly funded anyway
Lmao, hope you guys are ready for AI powered mass-surveillance everywhere to "protect you".
but the actual commies don't already have this
ignore that communism killed 40 times the amount of people as the holocaust and counting, and vote blue as we brainwash the youth to support communism
It's simple to the point that you'd have to be mentally unfit for every day life if you're not able to do it these days.
Mine's 9700x, 9070xt, 32gb RAM. 2025 is my personal Year of the Linux Desktop.
Zero buyer's remorse on the 9070xt so far every benchmark I see seems to vindicate my decision further.
You are Indian.
Post dual citizenship passport.
Why not let the free market fix it? There is a demand for drug from illness X, which is pretty much all that is needed for someone to create a supply of drug from illness X. Yes, maybe it will be a bit slower, but at least there wont be a situation where the production of the drug costs 5$, the actual price of the drug is 500$ and nobody is able to do shit because IP lmao. Monopolies are bad for capitalism
Have you ever considered that maybe the Jews lie about communism too, the way they lie about fascism?
SAY THANK YOU RIGHT FUCKING NOW
The Holocaust was 20 million dead tho so your math ain't mathing.
force spy
can easily be spoofed
chinks still use em anyway cuz the fuck are you gonna do? Bust down chinaman's house and seize their gpus?
Are they stupid?
senator proposes a bill
U.S. inks bill
Nice journalism. Does it have a chance to pass? Anyone can propose a bill.
Politician from a state in the South
Last name is Cotton
The writing sucks this season
Nuke China
Does he not know who manufactures the chips in the first place? Cause it's not the US.
Yeah, they lie to say communism is good, because all the youth care about are the 6million who died in ww2 and not the 200 million that starved in communist states.
Or you could just do what serious countries do and publicly fund and direct research and then integrate the results into the national healthcare system.
The goal is not to cockblock China but to keep track of all goyim.
This would be illegal here in EU so they would have to manufacturer seperate versions for America and Europe.
Interesting fact only two countries that spammed everyone with “superpower” shit before trump were India and Russia.
Presumably this would tell us where their computers are, which is extremely valuable intel.
companies doing capitalism.
Capitalism doesn't mean "no rules". You seem to have it confused with Anarchy. China is notorious for stealing American IP and violating laws that the US imposes on the corporations that operated in its borders. China isn't a fair competitor.
I have zero problem with the US working to curb china's advancement with AI. I just obviously share everyone's concern for this being used against american citizens. There's no reason for this shit to be in gaming cards.
At this point i don't care who is spying on me anymore. Everyone already fucking is so whatever.
yet politicians get cranky when you check where their planes go and see how much they fly
Typical
Nothing to do with China, it has to do with stopping people from using stable diffusion and other local models to produce "illegal content."
That's what this entire thing is about. You WILL use centralized AI services so we can ensure you're not doing anything illegal and naughty. And if you're stubborn enough to not use a centralized one we're going to track you.
There will be a government monopoly on producing AI videos that are indistinguishable from reality.
It was actually 400 million death Stalinslav.
The world, entertainment and the Internet has gotten worse since they gained economic power at the start of the century.
I'm saying that they make atrocity propaganda up against communist states because the USSR and China eventually told them to get fucked. Look into the origins of neoconservatism and WHY it was that the "anti-Stalinist left" came to exist.
The Jews used to like communism, now they don't, because it stopped serving Jewry. It has some other issues but that's secondary imo
It was actually 200 billion and if you say otherwise you're an antise- er, I mean, you're a commie.
What do you call a government that increasingly spies on you, decides what you can or can not do and gaslights you when you ask why?
You misspelled 500 million.
O say, can you see? Damn, I wish Europe didn't get fucked after WWII, just to have more competition.
Stealing intellectual property is based and so is fucking over the current regime in America desu
EU-like communism on pharma is good now.
You're retarded. The issue with that system is that Americans were paying exorbitant prices on drugs while the rest of the world price-controlled the drugs after the American citizens funded the R and D. Because americans were paying 100x the price, the EU and other countries were able to slap a $50 limit on the price and the company would still be able to make money while europeans got to enjoy the benefits of cheap and readily available pharmaceuticals. Why is america expected to be the money cow for the entire world when its own citizens are dying from preventable diseases due to lack of healthcare access?
Europe and Canada receive cheap drugs due to us and free military defense. And all we get in return is snobby comments online about how bad our country is. I have no issue at all with trump leveling that playing field and removing the burden of funding everything from america.
You'll never rise above being a bug, Chang.
I can't believe you would minimize the 600 trillion victims of communism like this.
Democracy manifest.
kys commie
The best solution would be to destroy China. Then we don't have these issues. Right?
this, i am confused
Anon all this communism propoganda bore fruit after occupy wallstreet, its what was used to divide people based on race and gender and ideology instead of class. Communism is a fucked up system, college kids are retards for trying to implement it, china, north korea, and cuba are hellholes and I wouldn't live in vietnam either, but globalist capitalism is diseased, rotten to the core. It serves corporations not people. Income inequality is a big source of modern day societal issues, and we are all rushing towards some form of authoritarianism with corporate oligarchies. Its cyberpunk no matter how you look at it, and it doesn't even look cool.
I have no solution but I know its not what we've been doing.
your shitty at&t disconnected
gpu disabled
LAND OF THE FREE
You will see man made horrors beyond your comprehension
If they're man-made they can't be beyond your comprehension unles you're a woman.
Because americans were paying 100x the price, the EU and other countries were able to slap a $50 limit on the price
No, pharma companies and health insurance and the overall healthcare system in the us just price gouged americans
Europe and Canada receive cheap drugs due to us
Agaun, literally not what happens, RnD benefits these companies a great deal and international sales of US pharma products benefits them as well. They are literally price gouging US consumers because they can.
Clearly your comprehension is limited
It won't be long before they put in a link to the government to check what you're generating with it.
Burgers are such cucks.
Its cyberpunk no matter how you look at it, and it doesn't even look cool.
Yeah we got the dystopian and oppressive corpo bit but not the cool shit.
Grim.
Kill all chinks.
Outsource all industry and factories to India and Africa if they're not in America
Live in Golden Age of peace and prosperity
It's that simple.
The real issue here is that you fucktards didn’t slap a 50$ cap on the price of drugs if the company can already profit from it and the government should care about well-being of citizens rather than maximising investor profits
b-but muh anticapitalism
Guess again retard, monopolies do far more damage to capitalistic society than price caps, and IP laws effectively create those.
Taiwan isn’t China either retard
What's stopping America from doing it?
chatGPT is free*
*not really
SAARS!
Yeah I know all that. Well I disagree about how you think about communism, anti-white stuff and made up genders are actually Jewish in character, and are exacerbated by certain aspects of capitalism, rather than having anything to do with communism.
The solution is some kind of national socialism, which is what China actually practices. If there's things you don't like about China then there's other models to look to like the European Axis or how the USSR did things, or even FDR and Huey Long in the US, and you can pick and choose what works for our current situation. But plutocracy and Jewish social ideology have to be dealt with.
But don't you guys want manufacturing jobs back home, along with coal mines?
I think IP law needs to be done away with entirely in all cases. Throw the baby out with the bath water, go full ancap on that shit, allow gazillions of shovelware and whats good will be recognized over what sucks. Corpos will have no recourse to prevent people engoodening their products.
Not him.
FDR and Huey Long in the US
I thought those two guys were rivals.
America disagrees lol
Yep my comment about you being retarded was on point.
They price gouge because they can, yes. BUT, it's that price gouging that allows the development of the drugs and provides the capital necessary to pour billions into the development. America is carrying the majority of the burden and it should be spread out among all of the nations that use the pharmaceuticals. If America was to simply stop paying out the ass for drugs, and we didn't see a rise in the price of pharmaceuticals from our so-called ally nations, what you would have is less drugs created and advancement on curing disease slowed or halted.
empowering india and africa
Oh yeah that's a wonderful idea. Can't wait to be dealing with the same shit all over again in 50 years.
american chips
holy shit he is retarded. All nvidia cards and amd cards use taiwan made chips.
it's america's dying breath, unironically
china is winning so fucking hard
The woketards dividing the country are pushing communism not pro-semitism.
They were. Huey Long and certain other figures like Coughlin and Townsend had good ideas that FDR ripped off and put into practice. I personally hate FDR for his warmongering, but I can't deny that the New Deal had some good aspects to it.
The USSR and NS Germany were enemies too, but we can learn from both of them.
Nah.
Facts
who ever gets agi first wins
this isn't even remotely true
whoever gets it first is irrelevant, everyone will have it
they're just trying to halt progress so it potentially doesn't come at all
it's so fucking retarded
it's america's dying breath, unironically
china is winning so fucking hard
In what fashion?
bootlicks corpos for decades instead of forcing them to set decent prices/standards and holding them accountable, because that would be communism
blames the rest of the world when corpos fuck you all the way to the grave
Keep looking away.
Nvidia and AMD are American companies anon
Taiwan is not China
It is literally official American foreign policy that Taiwan is a Chinese province.
Of course unofficially it's a different story, but Taiwan doesn't even have embassies in the US because the US has an agreement with China that Taiwan is China.
The USSR and NS Germany were enemies too, but we can learn from both of them.
Yeah, but you separated them.
Black lives matter leaders were self-proclaimed classically trained marxists. Gay race communism is being pushed by globalism kikery like the WEF.
I'm not falling for such destructive ideologies dude.
Chinese people are actually evil tho. They torture animals for fun.
Everyone who isn't white is evil, so?
Richard Stallman would support not doing anything against this, btw.
A number of people have asked the GNU Project if we would like to branch out from free software into free hardware designs, and expressed their interest in working on them. Some people have even suggested a project to make free chip designs.
To understand this issue clearly, recall that ``free software'' is a matter of freedom, not price; broadly speaking, it means that users are free to copy and modify the software. So if we try to apply the same concept to hardware, ``free hardware'' means hardware that users are free to copy and modify; a ``free hardware design'' means a design that users are free to copy, modify, and convert into hardware.
Because copying hardware is so hard, the question of whether we're allowed to do it is not vitally important. I see no social imperative for free hardware designs like the imperative for free software. Freedom to copy software is an important right because it is easy now--any computer user can do it. Freedom to copy hardware is not as important, because copying hardware is hard to do. Present-day chip and board fabrication technology resembles the printing press. Copying hardware is as difficult as copying books was in the age of the printing press, or more so. So the ethical issue of copying hardware is more like the ethical issue of copying books 50 years ago, than like the issue of copying software today.
web.archive.org
Thank you, GNU/Linux for saving us fron the evils of proprietary shit.
kek
look what's happening to Sig Saar
Me,
R9 9900X
RTX 4070 Ti super
32 GBs of RAM (30 CL)
3 SSDs and 1 4TB HDD
B650 Motherboard
they
Anon, there are fucked up people everywhere in the world, there are people who breed pitbulls
probably the first proper war between two nuclear powers ever (India vs. China stones and sticks shit doesn't count)
we're all still here
Fair. I didn't mean to imply that FDR and Long were friends, I actually think FDR had Long shot.
Okay fine, then just be a fascist and don't worry about trying to crib what's good from communism. Leave that to other people. As long as you go against capitalism and Jewry and advance nationalism and socialism it's all the same really.
Nah the Japanese are cool, and the South Koreans. Chinks and North Koreans on the other hand...
7800x3d
7800xt
Does what I want
I dont think you have the brains to grasp what I'm actually saying cause you're 0-3 so far.
If America was to simply adopt the european approach to healthcare, the european approach to healthcare would cease to be viable. We need Europe to start to pay its fair share of the R and D cost so that there isn't an immediate halt on the development of new drugs.
America is basically the wagie for the world and I'm fucking sick of it.
South Koreans
cool
you are unaware
South Korea is hell on earth dawg, even the South Koreans agree
Your GPU will now spy on where you live
Cellphones already do that.
I mean Koreans as a race are fine people. So are Chinese, unironically
But SK is like a cartoon parody of cyberpunk capitalism the way NK is a cartoon parody of Stalinism
support authoritarianism of a different flavor
Nah,
Libertarian monarchism combines the libertarian ideology of limited government and individual liberty with the traditional political system of monarchy. It argues for a monarch as a symbol of national unity and tradition, while advocating for a government that respects individual rights and freedoms, with minimal intervention in the lives of citizens.
Nah man, Chinese are great
They make premium Transformers
Not him. The thing is that you used a full stop after South Koreans, grouping them together with the Japanese, and separating them from the North Koreans and Chinese.
R and D cost
Lol. Lmao.
The R and D of adding caffeine to aspirin so you can name it Radspirin and sell it as a new thing
Ooooo retard alert retard alert
Yes I'm sure all of the complexities of modern medicine boil down to adding caffeine to aspirin. You're very smart and not at all an embarrassing moron that got dog-walked in this thread
Europe pays more than America for drugs anon
The governments subsidise them, not sure who told the administration this but it’s not true, though America is usually who everyone relies on for medicine
Yeah that's dumb sorry. Modern states are necessarily both managerial and totalitarian, and rely on democratic legitimacy to function. This is the age of mass politics and cybernetics and national socialism is the way to have maximal human flourishing within a managerial society, and for that nation to defend itself.
You should read James Burnham.
Cybernetics in the technical sense, meaning feedback loops that allow an elite to steer and direct a massive complex system like a modern state. Sorry.
Europe pays more than America for drugs anon
You're just gonna come here and tell lies?
He's saying that tax dollar go to it but if that were the case taxes would be much, much higher.
chat jewPeeTee response
clearly stating CONSUMER prices rather than total investments
I can smell American education through my monitor
Still wrong.
America is the world's janny and does it for free while europeans exist thanks to our suffering. All we get in return is snobbery and disdain.
i cant argue with the facts so I'll attack the sources
The price of the user is low because the government subsidises majority of them
If you don’t know what subsidising is, it means our government uses tax dollars to pay an amount to the pharmaceutical companies to make the cost to us much lower
I'd rather life as we know it collapse into idiocracy than give up freedom for security. By idiocracy I refer to the fact that a majority of people are not suitable to vote in democracy or live responsibly and dutifully without government boots on their necks.
The state exists to defend private property from internal criminals and external armies. Everything else can be handled by the free market. And if this fails then life ain't worth living as a boot licker.
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Just put your foot in the boot dude. Criminal behavior includes usury and rent seeking and anti-white/faggot shit.
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why is it always this faggot LARPer suggesting the gayest jewish apple-tier control-freak shit he knows isn't ever gonna get passed
conservitards really are tech illiterate
But that's not true tho. Americans get raped across every possible metric.
walks around with a microphone, camera and GPS all day
nooooooooooo big brother will be able to spy on my goon sesh now!!!
Americans pay more for prescription drugs
even though European governments often subsidize drug costs
Shouldn't be "because" rather than "even though"?
the companies design the chips, which the commies can do as well
the issue is actually manufacturing them which is what Taiwan does (with German/Dutch/Japanese equipment)
Are you retarded or do you not understand what I said or what the ai says
I understand exactly what you are saying. You are saying the total cost paid to drug companies by europe (gov subsidy + out of pocket) is higher than it is in American (insurance payout + out of pocket) and I'm saying that it is simply not true
Americans get fucking hosed and europe benefits from that hosing
War soon fellow [insert term of endearment here]
Not that anon.
European governments (who subsidise in bulk) pay less per drug than Americans consumers do
Imagine my shock.
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"FBI: anon, why did your gpu generate this image?"
uhhh...
bros???
European governments (who don't have to pay for a military subsidized by the US) 'subsidizes' drug costs
Woah we moved some numbers around and the result was the same!
Then don't make such a dumb argument if it's patently untrue.
who don't have to pay for a military subsidized by the US
Stop doing so, then. What are you guys waiting for? It's unironically the best thing it could happen to them.
Americans think if we don’t waste a trillion dollars each year, China will take over instantly
Sorry anon, I just don’t believe the AI
We try it and they cry and our media portrays it as an "attack on our allies". Apparently anything that isn't bringing in infinity spics and africans and hemorrhaging money so europe can take naps at 4pm is a heckin fascism
Look it up yourself then faggot. It's all true. Your entire way of life is made possible through subsidies by the American tax payer. Remember that the next time you shitpost about how dumb and uneducated we are
All we would ask in return is that you stop being so fucking gay but you can't even manage that.
So, Anon. Why do you need all those quality tags?
-six fingers
I'm personally in favor of it. I mean, my government already committed terrorist attacks on Europe by blowing up the gas pipeline in order to keep them on our teat
I’m not European, I just don’t believe ai
We try it and they cry and our media portrays it as an "attack on our allies".
Pussy. You think that FDR gave a fuck about what Charles Coughlin had to say about his commie-tier shit like packing the Supreme Court and forbidding people from farming their own wheat (Wickard v. Filburn)?
Usually they are just fragments from other prompts but sometimes they tangibly increase the quality of whatever I'm doing
You're the one taking propaganda up your ass. China and Russia aren't your enemies, you're a fucking retard. Go become a meat shield in Ukraine if you care that much.
Believe me, I wish we had this energy. I wish we would openly tell russia that we would look the other way should they choose to fly over the artic and bomb canada. I wish our little bitch allies would understand the reality that their so-called freedom and welfare security is only made possible by their mentally insane super power "friend" that they take complete advantage of.
Sometimes disobedience must be punished corporally.
let's fight communist china by doing exactly like them
must be tiring being an american these days, hope you've planned to move from this shithole
Well its common knowledge that the source is retarded but I am mostly attacking your reading comprehension and logic issues. Even in your new screenshot it clearly states that US spends more than INDIVIDUAL eu countries on drugs but doesn’t mention the block as a whole. The fact that europeans pay higher taxes, including healthcare tax, which are then used by the government to finance R&D(which by the way was the main point of “europe pays more than us”) is completely ignored and is not mentioned anywhere. Also stop using chatGPT and seek actual sources because otherwise I have irrefutable evidence that your opinion is not to be trusted
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Terry was right.
americans pay for my drugs AND force the chinaman to sell me lower priced shit because of tariffs
hehe
Listen loyalist, you are an absolute top tier retard to be this willing to fight and die for this federal government
i'd rather stay and watch jews die horrifying deaths for betraying the common man once again
Yeah that's still not true faggot. Even with 100 million more people, America still out-spends Europe.
This is why you guys are taken advantage of.
No we're taken advantage of because boomers were psy-opped by the hippie movement and a coke commercial
Your era of luxury at our expense is coming to an end. Enjoy it while you can. I look forward to watching Russia ass-rape you militarily and China carving up your "ethnically ambiguous economic zones" you once called neighborhoods.
You think than that stopped the French, Chinese and Russian revolutionaries from stopping régimes that have lasted for centuries? To some extent, the same applies to Oliver Cromwell.
two weeks is a very long time
3 years actually.
I look forward to watching Russia ass-rape you militarily
France and UK have nukes, though.
1. How come when I multiply 900$ by 450 mil I get exactly 400 billion? Where did the just mentioned taxes go?
2. How’s weather in Tel-Aviv
But do they have the courage to use them?
Probably yes. In any case, what's the best way of testing that theory than leaving them to their devices?
France has a first-strike policy, I'd say they would.
strongly advocating for america to stop getting jewed by the pharmaceutical industry
accused of being jewish
I'm like the opposite of jewish you fucking retard.
How come when I multiply 900$ by 450 mil I get exactly 400 billion? Where did the just mentioned taxes go?
That's the total of pharmaceutical spending per person in europe if we're going off the higher end of the range (every eu country is different). What is the issue?
Ai uses estimates as truths
It doesn’t know
Notice how broad the numbers are?
The numbers are true though. You can independently verify all of this yourself. I just don't care enough to present multiple separate sources to prove a point on a Congolese basket weaving forum to a bunch of shitposting retards
There’s a gap of 100 million between the estimates
Besides that, it also could just mean that Americans are just way more reliant on drugs than Europeans
Reading statistics like this I’m sure you also believe the wage gap to be true
And of-course it is a fucking republican.... You give them and inch and they take a mile. This is why is better to have everything evenly, so demorats and repulicucks waste their time fighting each other instead.
all of gpus are made in communist china tho
Besides that, it also could just mean that Americans are just way more reliant on drugs than Europeans
That's a fair counter, but I think the gap between how fat and unhealthy americans and europeans are has never been so small so who knows. Still doesn't explain why the gap is almost double though.
Gonna be real with you man, your address is public knowledge if someone has your full name. You are not hiding from the government either way. You're worried about one rock in the entire landslide that already fell decades ago.
All you have to do is look at women posting on TikTok about how many anti depressants and hormones/blockers they are on at such a young age
Not exclusive to the US. Canada and the UK are just American cultural vassal states at this point anyways
I don't get it. Don't high end video cards sit in one place? Like in a computer on a desk? They already know my address.
Neither are included in EU statistics anon
I think the american govt wants the ability to shut off chinese ai networks with the flip of a switch since their shit is all running on american hardware anyways
1. The issue is that you keep ignoring the fact that europeans pay higher taxes, including healthcare tax, which is then used by government to finance r&d and its the third time I am bringing your attention to it
2. How’s weather in Tel-Aviv
Go back to your containment board brainlet.
I'm saying the actual funds that the taxes generate do not amount to half of the total amount that americans pay into pharmaceutical companies every year thereby negating your entire argument.
That or they at least know where large concentrations of video cards are so they can just bomb them during a war.
a-actually gays are the real enemies and you should accept china and russia as your saviors!!!
Pathetic.
Americans pay a lot more for out-of-pocket insurance that barely covers the co-pay or get saddled with tens of thousands of dollars in medical debt
Even though medical research is already federally funded, stupid Americans insist on paying MORE because of the same guy who convinced them Trickle Down Economics works
economy that serves people & class cooperation
Hitler
He, who made this image, is literally retarded.
I can see it, local SD is actually powerful in skillful person, and (((they))) don't want that
Trump chimps out on all countries besides Russia
Anon Babble simps for China now
what a surprise
Yeah the US would never do that...
stupid Americans insist
Bro, we can literally vote to fix it and the pharma lobby steps in and buys off the necessary politicians to keep it the same. It's not for lack of effort
almost all US geopolitics is kayfabe
it doesn't matter
we uplifted china into a manufacturing vassal; any tension with them is imaginary
THE PROBLEM
THE FUCKING PROBLEM
IS WHEN OUR COLD WAR AND COMMUNIST OBSESSED DIPSHIT POLITICIANS
THINK THAT IMAGINARY TENSION IS REAL
WHEN THESE FUCKING DIPSHITS WHO WERE ALIVE AND IN POLITICS WHEN CHINA WAS UPLIFTED THINK THEY HAVE AN ACTUAL, SERIOUS ENEMY ON THEIR HANDS
Good thing there's only organic engagement here, human. Nothing but sincere, honest discussion.
Everything else can be handled by the free market
Not either of those anons but the free market only tends towards what is most profitable, and what is most profitable is not necessarily what is the best for humanity. Argument number one would be businesses based on human addictions and psychological exploitation like drugs and gambling, who's gonna stop them from creating their own consumers, sucking the money from people and then using even more money to create even more consumers? Argument number two would be how horribly short-sighted it is, climate change is already pretty bad even with the governments trying to steer corporations away from contributing to it, corporations don't really want the economic sting of switching to clean energy and the people in charge won't be around enough to experience the damages so they might as well get as much money right now even if it'll make shit worse in the long run. Argument number three would be collusion, corporations have a tendency to cooperate with each other to collectively make more money than to actually compete with each other for the benefit of the customer.
Watch things get really weird with ASML. The entire reason we have export controls on EUV machines is because the Department of Energy developed the technology, and the commercialization aspect was a Comprehensive Research and Development Agreement signed by Phillips and the other members of the consortium and managed under an ad hoc LLC, "EUV LLC".
Inb4 patents are expired
Yes, I know that. However, that has nothing to do with the licensing agreement signed through EUV LLC. Theoretically, we could use the National Security Act to retroactively fuck ASML in the ass, and because the EU is extra gay, they would 100% comply. Part of the original deal is that ASML would make them in the US, but economic pressures at the time put that on the back burner. How no one on the Clinton administration had the foresight to see this could be a national security issue in the not even distant future is beyond me, especially since excimer lasers were first developed as potential weapons systems under SDI. This is why Sandia National Labs is the patent holder because SNL does nothing but nuclear and directed energy weapons development.
Every conservative I’ve ever talked to about the subject insists he’s better off without health insurance and just figures
fuck it, roll the dice
In case they ever need to go a hospital. It’s just retards insisting on rugged individualism to the point of everyone’s detriment
We just had two terms of obama and one term of biden and despite both having majorities, it still wasnt fixed. I dont think it can be blamed exclusively on conservatives
We should fund a national lab system for HHS like we do for the DoE, but instead of nuclear weapons development, it should be for development of new treatments and manufacturing of critical drugs. Let the pharmaceutical companies and university systems that already do the research run them jointly just like they do with weapons manufacturers and university systems for the DoE.
The idea that conservatives want free healthcare is laughable. The ones I know who do pay out of pocket for it insist on it because they think it entitles them to something.
I pay out of pocket for my health insurance because I’m scared I may need to go to an ER some day, but I’d rather not have to worry about this fucking retarded middle man Americans invented just to fuck ourselves over.
Medical research in the US is federally funded. We already do what you described.
I just think it’s retarded how much we spend on the military and give to Israel when we could be using that money to cover Americans hospital visits
The idea that conservatives want free healthcare is laughable.
He's not saying that, mongoloid. He's saying that progressives (or the people they vote every four years to stop the fascist menace) don't want it either.
Its always cold in Siberia......
No it’s not, at all
I’m sure majority of them would like it, they just don’t want to pay for it because of all the violent crime and far fucks you guys have over there which would flood the system
Yes, the fascist deep state in the US is literally recycling the propaganda they drafted with Nazis collaborators after WWII and using Red Scare rhetoric to control the sheeple
I just think it’s retarded how much we spend on the military and give to Israel when we could be using that money to cover Americans hospital visits
Well the reason this doesn't happen is because a very small group of people make extremely large amounts of money off the first two at the direct expense of american lives
Helping americans live better lives isnt profitable
I think you would unpleasantly surprised at how much money of NSF and NIH grants get wasted on dumb shit that's not medical research.
If they'll deny themselves service because The Bad Ones also get service then they deserve to pay out-of-pocket since their alternative insurance middleman is way worse. Talk about blasting yourself with a shotgun to spite your nose.
I probably wouldn't be because the USD is effectively infinite Trump's working on that though, other nations are selling their US government bonds! and I really don't fucking care what infinite money gets "wasted" on in which direction.
There is no way they can even realistically enforce what the want to do to make GPUs not work for China
The proposal pitches a system that mandates that AI-capable hardwade be geofenced, and gradually reduces the performance of the hardware at an increasing rate until it's basically inoperable for its intended use case if it is detected as operating outside of the geolocked region that it is permitted for use in (aka not China or its allies)
How do you even accomplish this and how retarded do you have to be to not know how easy this is to spoof or defeat entirely?
Every public service in america is a direct wealth transfer from white and asian americans and the non-productive hispanics and blacks. It's literally one of the main reasons we cant have nice things.
Who cares when the whites also benefit from those programs? Fuck off. You'll kill yourself if it means them darkies ova theya don't get nothin. Quit turning wealth inequality and class issues into race issues, trailer monkey.
he's right you retard, also
muh class analysis
derides the working class for living in trailers
blow your kosher brains out jew
If you think you’re getting wait lists now, just wait until you get “free” healthcare
THREAT TO OUR DEMOCRACY
Hispanics and blacks are more productive than coddled white losers lol
I don't understand how policies like this are even legal.
slanteyes and nogs also benefit from socialist programs so we shouldn't ever have any of them
no he isn't right
funny how japan's socialized and dirt-cheap medicine and even the canadian healthcare you're quoting don't actually have this massive backlog problem
even funnier that the waitlist is still preferable to a $6,000 charge for routine body maintenance, what is the line of thought going on that insurance somehow improves the experience? "bro this moneylender will solve all your problems" total fucking insanity from moneylenders
yep
Having a burning tire on your lawn doesn't really conjure images of a proud worker anon
All x64 CPUs have backdoors, btw.
lel yeah more productive at sucking up resources like parasites. no wonder communiggers ballwash them they're just lazy spiritual niggers themselves
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Honestly supporting China as a gamer is just a no brainer.
It won't pass
The fact we have senators this insanely retarded is still worrying though
no rebuttal
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Oh no, the government knows where I live
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