HIS GAME FLOPPED

30k players on Steam at release

DOOM: The Dark Ages is a confirmed flop. Press F for Hugo Martin and the ambitious team at ID Software.

Copium

I watched a streamer play it. He bought the $100 super collectors edition and he was so tepid on the game. It wasn't Doom. If it were called anything else and not trying so hard to be doom: medieval it would've been better received, but in general it was 6 guns, and doing the same thing for 12 hours.

When a twitch streamer finishes a game in 15 hours, theres a solid 2-3 hours of talking to chat and taking a piss. Additionally, his game crashed like a dozen times. $100 for a ~12 hour game is pretty dismal.

but theres dlc coming with that $100 purchase!

oh boy, part deux of snooze fest doom. Just have to wait a year for another 3 hours of gameplay that won't be significantly different from the rest of the game!

should've made Eternal 2, dude. Not this controller player slop made for visually impaired people. Seriously why is every projectile fucking massive and glowing and tacky looking.

yea because forced parry with shield gimmick is what Doom playerbase wanted lmao

It's also on consoles, battle.net and gamepass. I don't give a shit about it's success but who gives a damn about steam numbers.

zero skill expression doom.

play our way or don't have fun

wow.

nu-doom should've never made money in the first place

Reminder that Hugo made The Dark Ages bad on purpose to prove the Eternal haters that he was right all along.

How do they regroup after this L?

he doesn't like Death Match, hence the shit MP in Eternal to zero MP in Dark Ages.

both are shit

they retire doom and reboot quake

not to defend this but this game's also on gamepass. Was that the case with DOOM Eternal? That one peaked at 100k.

You are shit.

Bad juju for fucking over Mick Gordon

it's on gamepass

yeah same copium that was with avowed

I'm enjoying it.

I just wanted Eternal gameplay with 2016 type story

I will take this doom over eternal any day

Its another "Steam fags think there is only one way someone can play a game" thread

yeah you are right, Stalker also came out on gp and that one still had high player count on Steam.
Honestly sad but also kinda happy that this thing is set to bomb. They designed the game for controllers and made it easy and casual, fuck MS and fuck Bethesda.

It is, flopped hard and there is no argument against.
No, being on gamepass doesn't preclude a games to sell well like Expedition 33.
ALL games that have low players count on steam flops, to this day there is not even a exception to the rule.
Same as Indiana Great Circle, Anon Babble can rag about "poorfags" as much as they want, ppl with lower end graphics cards still make the vast majority of the entire world.
The game can't even surpass Doom 2016 and that have EVERYTHING going against it, Bethesda even hold copies of review, the entire world was sure that it would've been a disaster, it only sold after release by pure word of mouth.
It is, what it is.

should we wait for the weekend mayhaps?

It's what he deserves fro gooning to MCU slop

I play it on the Xbox app because I have game pass...

I watched a streamer play it

opinion discarded

The entire reason the first game was popular was because of the soundtrack+gameplay. Every progressive game has been less in both

Doom Dark Ages is the most OG Doom-like game of the three modern games.

Eternal gameplay and music fucks

The game will hit its peak during the weekend, but I'm still not expecting 100k.

I mean good. Not for Doom. But for Hugo and Marty. They could use a little humbling.

wouldn't they have come up with a proof of concept parry slop demo and realised that making the whole game like this would be a terrible idea?

I bought Eternal on launch
I'm playing Dark Age on gamepass

Anyone that paid $100 for this is a retard. It's not even worth $70. At best you should just drop $12 on goypass for a month.

But even then I'd wait for the DLC to be out and just buy the game on sale when it's patched and hopefully Nvidia drivers aren't so broken.

whale gated releases for short games always end up like this

by the time the "offical" releases comes out every streamer has already finished the game and the hype is dead

It's not a bad game the only thing ridiculous is the fact theyre asking basically 100$ for it when it's free on gamepass

Idk if it really flopped (steam charts are useless), but there is very little buzz here about it so its not a big deal at any rate.

MICROSOFT FIRE THIS MAN!

It wasn't Doom

Oh yeah I remember the first cyberdemon I saw in OG Doom, I raised my shield and shot a cannon ball at him.

Im going to pirate it when the DLC releases

Doom Dark Ages is the most OG Doom-like game of the three modern games.

Dark Ages has more in common with Dark Souls than Doom.

t. hugo martin

it was 6 guns, and doing the same thing for 12 hours.

thats literally DOOM

It's on Microsoft Store, Steam, Battlenet and Goypass so

Shouldn't have charged 70 burgers

Just fucking make the Quake 1 reboot already. Stop forcing doom and give us Quake 1’s lovecraft medieval shit already, it’s clearly what Doom Dark Ages wants to be.

just say you got filtered by maurader and you're the reason they had to dumb it down in dark ages

I want Eternal/DA/16 franchise rape but for Quake this time

Fuck you

Then just don’t play it. You’re not getting a new Quake game otherwise.

So does OG Doom. No skill and not knowing where to move.

Thank god I don't want them ruining Quake too.

His new quake game looked good. What do people not like with with?

I thought I was completely deranged when I played it and thought it was complete dogshit compared to 2016/Eternal.

no mick gordon

most arenas are flat and open-ended

bullet sponge ganks

using other weapons is unnecessary

makyr slop

argent d’slop

the slop sentinels

garystuslayer staring at things

endless shitty exposition dumps

boring guns

mostly boring enemies

fucking horrible dragon/mech sections

static turret sections in a doom game

nightmare difficulty is too easy

completely bipolar approach to the game’s setting

slow-moving projectile spam

parry windows are either so generous that you never have to try or so unkind that you eat shit from an attack with a horrible hitbox

stupid character names like azhrak, novik, bloojar, pencar, iftok, negrok

open-ended levels are repetitive and tedious

no fast travel to return for missed items like in eternal

no fun environmental storytelling like 2016

fucking awful upgrade system

tedious unlock purchasing system

slow weapon slops

slow general game speed unless you go to 150% which still sucks

no dash to dodge

no meathook

no i-frames leading to cheap deaths from indiscernible off-screen projectiles

I can’t say enough about how much this one sucked. Surely, no one is inhaling that much copium so as to believe this wasn’t anything other than shit?

no i-frames

did they literally just introduce the new doom protagonist in dark ages? why does she look like doom guy so much?

Expedition 33 is a in a much more niche genre (turn based RPG) from a new studio based on a new IP and is ALSO on Gamepass day 1

Hits 170k players on Steam

Doom is from the most broad genre imaginable, is the one of the most (if not the most) recognizable IPs, and is a sequel to two very well received games

Hits 30k Players

it's no Arlene

the greedyness of the early access fucked them up. Most people that would impulse buy this just saw their favorite streamer playing and finishing it and calling it mid, so they decide no to buy

just not gonna buy is all

I would've bought it at 60€ but I refuse to pay 80€ for a game
Normally I would be considered part of their core demographics as I played DOOM 2016 and Eternal on release day but they're asking for too much now

an 80$ 10h singleplayer campaign

got microsoft and nvidia money i think they expected it to flop and just phoned it in,

Im getting my shit pushed in, though ive only done the first mission. How are you supposed to play it? Charging with the shield somehow always ends with me taking a shit ton of damage so clearly im not supposed to be doing that I guess. Im playing on Nightmare

I already saw the writing on the wall that Doom was going to be trash after they pulled that subversion around angels vs demons in the eternal dlc. Shitting on the clearly defined good vs evil that was in the previous games.
Fuckers just can't help pushing their mortally challenged shit onto everything.

the shit MP in Eternal

Eternal's problem is MP netcode was utter garbage and it was plain unbalanced
Battlemode's idea was fun, it just needed more work, and it needed another mode than 2v1
If you just had classic game modes but everyone's playing demons, it could have been neat

I am continuously baffled to see people suck Mick Gordon's dick. Do they not have ears? The 2016/Eternal soundtracks were hot fucking garbage

Secret hunting and combat challenges are holding the game back they should not be available on your first playthrough so you can focus on actually playing the fucking game

dont do them then?

you're self-sabotaging by not doing them since upgrades are locked to them

It's not looking good. It peaked again but only crawled to 30,812. The weekend could only get it over slightly Doom 2016's peak. Where did all the players from Doom Eternal go?

demon DM would have been hilarious unironically

It's a better game than Eternal but not as good as 2016. I'm not surprised it bombed though; the marketing was shit and the game just doesn't look very appealing. The 2016 and even Eternal art direction was much better.

they grew up and dropped the sloppy FPS genre

they're still playing eternal

sloppy FPS

call them zoomer shooters please we have too many things called slop already

Eternal had huge numbers because of how well 2016 was received. Now TDA has to suffer from Eternal turning off a lot of players.

no one is paying 70$ for doom 2016 again, maybe 20$ on sale but thats all they're getting from me

I don't think so. nuDoom team sizes aren't that bonkers as some AAA games. Tis not fatal.

Anon, the fucking guys behind this game's ost were the same guys that made music for fucking microsoft's flying simulator

And they did just as well as Mick. Pretty sad.

reinstalling Doom 3

I'm not Mick Gordon's biggest butt buddy or anything, but even you know that's a lie, the soundtrack is ass

Player numbers are lower than they should be, but you can't take a victory lap until we've seen the player numbers from Sunday.

try to try and replay this

It's not ass. I'd say 8/10. They don't seem to have that much confidence in it though since it's mixed so low by default.

I never cared that much for the super badass tryhard tone. it's fine, i'm not offended by it but it doesn't interest me. I played 16 and eternal because what other modern shooter am I gonna play but all those games are to me are neon arena air dash sims.

Retard Micks music was half the game nee stuff is shit

Is Doom 3 any good?

Doom Dark Ages is the most OG Doom-like game of the three modern games.

but still worse

so you're saying I should just keep playing megawads instead
cool

couple of hours in

mfw the constant need to parry green projectiles intensifies

Microsoft killed PC gaming with Gamepass.

Eternal wasn't on goypass and didn't cost $70 or 80€

It's really fucking good

Played for 1 hour and got tired, I'm probably too old, I like to play First Person Shooters game because I like to shoot guns, I dont like to play as a Melee.

It's perfectly fine for complementing the action but otherwise unremarkable. Just like in 2016 and Eternal. It's definitely mixed too low at default levels though.

Gmota mogs this shit so hard it's not even funny

It wasn't Doom

None of these modern Doom games are "Doom", they're Painkiller successors wrapped in a vague Doom skin.
Although I guess with Dark Ages they used a Heretic skin instead.

I'm huge DOOM fan but ain't paying 80$ for that, when i can play it on gamepass

gamepass has a massive effect on sales. unless you're a super fan or a pro it's fucking stupid to pay 70$ for something you can get for 12$. beat nightmare, get your fill, cancel your sub.

the more i'm watching people play the game, the more i'm thinking perhaps they were right to make this green red doge/parry thing so slow and obvious

even this one has difficulties understanding thsi simple concept lmao

youtube.com/watch?v=TaR_T_X7Rbc

mfw people cry about Mick Gordon still

I dont get why people suck Mick's dick so hard. The guy made like 2-4 good songs and the rest are whatever. Go listen to the first few levels of Doom2016 and tell me that they are good.

Fuck off.

It holds up pretty well after the slow intro. Simple but fun and has great atmosphere.
You rarely need to use melee. It's far less intrusive than glory kills and chainsawing for ammo refills.

Go listen to the first few levels of Doom2016 and tell me that they are good.

They're fucking awesome

Could it be because its just not fun to play with mechanics like that?

the enemy just launched an unavoidable wave

oh but I don't die if I stand on the green spot!

repeat for 10 hours

Just what I want in a first person shooter, color beat dancing!

It wasn't bad for its time. There are some nice tech environments that have cool lighting. The actual shooting is ass. Weapons are mostly atrocious and level design is corridor after corridor after corridor after corridor. Shotty has a full screen spread at a distance of few meters. You run faster than your plasma balls. etc. Also i hope you enjoy the sequence of: walk into room -> enemies teleport behind you because that's all there is. I swear most of these people praising it don't have a their playthrough in fresh memory.

I"m not a huge fan of Gordon's Doom stuff myself, but at least some of it was actually memorable compared to Dark Ages' soundtrack, which might as well not exist.
At the same time, I don't understand why id didn't bring back the guys who handled Eternal's expansions. I thought those guys did a quality job.

I'm playing it now and its fucking great

samefagging this hard because people enjoy music you don't

embarrassing to be perfectly honest

m-m-meds!!!

anon come on don't do this, just own up to it, no one cares I promise you

Fun fact: the guys behind this game's soundtrack started making music for the Master Chief collection, and have worked on

Halo wars 2

Crackdown 3 (i bet you forgot that even existed huh?)

Microsoft Flying Simulator

It's okay. The OG is just a meh Half-Life 1 clone with a flashlight gimmick. The BFG release is just a meh Half-Life 1 clone.
Overall, it's actually more fun to play in VR.

Based and redpilled

Okay come back when you've finished. Hope you're not expecting variety beside a brief jaunt in hell.

Yeah I can remember a whopping two tracks total from his Doom work. TDA's is equally as unmemorable but it works well enough in the context of the game. Just need to boost the music volume level or drop the others.

Im near the end

everyone loves eternal, dark shit is overpriced and kills framerates with gay tracing, cope

Almost sounds like composers Microsoft forced onto id because they already had them on contract.

Oh and they also worked on Grounded, so yeah, i'm 80% sure that's the case

It wasn't Doom

Yeah, NuDoom in a nutshell. I don't think any of the people making modern Doom actually played and liked old Doom. All the NuDoom games feel like the devs only experienced Doom as some 3rd party cultural phenomenon that they have been vaguely aware of, rather than actually playing the originals by themselves.

I forgot most of Anon Babble was poor third-worlders

There's a very large number of people who simply can't play the game because of forced RTX. I could max out Eternal @ 1080p with a 1070. The fact that Dark Ages won't even boot is ridiculous.

Now?

the game is fucking tedious to play, I have no idea how anybody that disliked Eternal isn't going to hate this a million times more. I loved Eternal and this is a fucking slog to play because of how fucking insanely much health certain enemies have and the constant having to deal with shields and projectiles that are literally all over you constantly, there's no cohesion to any of it, just a fucking annoying persistent chaos around you at all times.

Disappointing

Isn't a 1070 like a 6 year old card now? Thats like complaining your PS5 games won't load in your PS4

you know the industry is doomed when a doom game runs like shit

It's from 2016. It's nearly 9 years old. He does have a point though, going from being able to play a game in the series at high settings and good performance to not even being able to start the next one is kind of ass.

I'm not the only one who has gotten sick of how nuDoom looks, right?

The color palette especially for projectiles and the sickly green they use actually hurts my eyes now.

I don't understand why id didn't bring back the guys who handled Eternal's expansions.

They signed up before Gordon returned the receipts, they probably didn't want to be associated with them after that

I assune you never played Doom 2016

Eternal looks good imo has a lot of color variety, meanwhile TDA is all shades of brown which probably makes the projectile color even worse

I understand the frustration, but when you demand a brand new AAA title be capable of good, smooth, and fluid gameplay on 10-15 year old hardware as well as brand new hardware, the developer says "fuck it, we're not making a flagship title to work on ancient computers"

Yeah the meme of doom running on refrigerators, or 1990s printers is funny, but how about get some hardware from at least past 2020. Thats not unreasonable. 10 year old computer hardware is just old shit now.

The counter is almost any computer can run an emulator to play SMB3. But then I complain I can't play SM Odyssey oh my thinkpad.

I like the sickly green in the environment color palette but I hate the super bright green and purple effects enemies shoot all over the screen

RTX ia a forced upgrade that doesn't bring any kind of benefit to the consumer

TDA level design is closer IMO. 2016 had nearly all enemy encounters in locked arena battles, where TDA has more regular encounters scattered throughout the levels. I still think 2016 is a better game though.

Anything over 10k is a success

yeah eternal was colorful enpugh to merit the effects and colors
but dark ages clashes so hard with its existing environment
even fucking indie boomer shooters don't make their picmups and projectiles look this garrish

Honestly it plays closer to Ultrakill than Doom except it's slower

It didnt do anythong different

So, Doom?
What the hell do you want? An Animal crossing crossover?

I'm not a fan of how Eternal or TDA looks.

playing on pc gamepass rn, and i can handle eternals "story" bits but this is a tad bit too much

I never liked it. The demons look like the plastic toy version of a demon and color use is completely ass with clashing tones and a lack of any aesthetic sense everywhere, I don't know how else to describe it.

I was looking at it from a weapons and abilities perspective but yeah that makes sense too.

You people are so stupid its why I avoid Anon Babble. We get it, you don't' have a 4070 or better and can't afford anything better. Thats fine, I'm not putting you down for being poor. But demanding brand new games work on now obsolete hardware is stupid. Thats on them as the developer requiring RTX, but you're going to feel extra dumb if most of the gaming industry goes that way. When it produces fantastic lighting, why bother spending the dev time making a jank work around when you could just make it for relatively recent hardware?

i forgot most of Anon Babble were pajeet marketers

I hate the huge battles happening on every level so far, I hate the constant building music that goes nowhere, it creates this incredibly uncomfy and annoying vibe when you're playing.

You're supposed to feel like you're the doomguy on your own fucking up demons but you have people on the radio communicating to you, you have huge scale battles happening all over constantly. Its trying so hard to be huge and epic and its not hitting for me at all. I'd much rather take isolated and comfy, doom guy on his own at a mars base. This is ANNOYING ME.

Why? There is absolutely nothing about brand new AAA titles that justify "modern" hardware. Games feel the exact same they did ten years ago, graphics have peaked. All improvements at this point are in terms of decimals, and they do not in any way justify hundreds of dollars worth of upgrading.

nigga i have a 3060ti

Who? What game

I honestly found the other two uninteresting and boring, but holy shit, this has looked bad even in their best showcases.

I saw someone describe the music as constantly edging you and that seems pretty apt.

My 8gb graphics card isn't going to cut it so I'm not even going to bother. Eternal ran great on my PC but I heard this one is a killer for turd world PC's.

Doom 2016 looked fantastic.
Eternal was a bit garish but I didn't mind. The original Doom was pretty colorful after all.
Dark Ages just looks weird, but I don't know why.

my 3070 handles it just fine at (mostly) 60fps, it dropped in that huge area in siege 1 but I hear thats the most demanding area in the game, and it never dropped below 55 fps from what I could tell.

need ammo

jump down to a group of zombies to punch them for magic ammo

they all explode from the sheer badassery of the Doom Slaya landing in the general vicinity

don't get get ammo

Wow, thanks Hugo.

Anybody with a 3 digit IQ knew not to buy this at full price and to play it on game pass. Full price for a 10-20 hour campaign and nothing else (not even custom map/mod support) is a goddamn rip off.

Music seems the same as the others? Quiet ambient stuff until you enter a battle then it's chugging down-tuned garbage.

All the humans except Slayer are niggers

What did Bethesda mean by this?

i liked 2016 and eternal, and so far i like dark ages also, but i think 2016 will wind up being my favorite of the modern trilogy. 2016 was made only with the objective of modernizing the original concept. its sequels were both made as reactions, though. eternal was made in response to devs watching 2016 players on nightmare, dark ages was made in response to the criticisms of eternal. i think the trilogy is very strong, and will be remenbered very fondly as time goes on. but for me, the goldilocks effect is there. eternal too hot, dark ages too cold, 2016 just right.

Pretty much exactly how I feel

The Shart Ages

30 fucking thousand concurrent players. HOW

Why did they turn the Hell Knight into a manlet? It's almost comical how short they are.

Friday IS weekend. Eternal peaked on Friday.

It wasn't Doom.

Neither were 2016 or DE. They're zoomer shooters, not boomer shooters.

Putler has fused with Satan, thus creating SUTLER

Only Doomslaya and the Doomvengers can stop this threat to democracy

*shot during the battle*

*SphereHunter jumps on a demon and breaks his neck using her legs*

SphereHunter: Captain Zelensky, there are too many, we can’t hold them back!

Dave Rivera: My cyber forces are fading. Grummz must be behind this!

*Doomslaya and Isabelle rip through enemies using chainsaws*

RIP AND TEAR!!

*Sutler approaches the battlefield*

*Steve tries to attack him with his chickenjockey ability but is repelled*

Keanu: This is the end of democracy…

*A bolt of energy strikes from space*

Rick Sanchez: Ursula?!

Kojima: Hi, Ursula-san,I'm Hideo

Ursula Von der Leyen: Hi, Hideo. Do you have something for me?

*Ursula takes the Infinity Funko Pop*

*Sutler charges furiously at Ursula and they clash with equal power*

*Sutler uses one of his Infinity Funko Pops to attack Ursula and steal the final one*

*Doomslaya’s dragon tries to strike back at Sutler but is slain by him*

Steve: No!

BetterMan: murderer! You killed Dragorino!

Doomslaya: My friend…*furiously approaches Sutler* You killed my friend! Now how will I share his pics on r/chonkers?!!

*Doomslaya and Sutler fight brutally*

Sutler: This is your end, Slayah!!!

*Isabelle steps between Sutler and Doomslaya*

Isabelle: Slayah…forgive me.

*Isabelle is mortally wounded*

Doomslaya: NOO!

*Sutler takes the last Infinity Funko Pop*

*Steve jumps on Sutler trying to snatch the last Infinity Funko Pop but is easily defeated*

Sutler: I… AM INEVITABLE

*Sutler snaps his fingers but nothing happens*

*Steve looks at Sutler with a smile despite being badly wounded*

Steve: I… AM KYIIIIIIV

*Steve snaps his fingers, eliminating all the demons and thus saving democracy at the cost of his life*

Alright, whats your problem then?

eternal was made in response to devs watching 2016 players on nightmare

where the FUCK did u hear this from lmao

i see it

Yeah. I guess it's not an FPS so PC sales aren't that relevant.

just my own feeling. i always thought eternal's emphasis on speed and weapon swapping was born from id seeing streamers shuffling guns like maniacs to burn enemies down faster.

bethesda is dying bros

but also fuck those green rolling imp pieces of shit

The modern incarnation of this franchise gives me EA sports vibes

Is this thread made by the ex33 spammer again?
For fuck sake, go get a life

RTX is a fucking scam

tim willits did nothing wrong

from 120fps on a series s to not booting on a 1080ti

it's time to let go

the funny thing is they use RTX for bullet trajectory tracking thats why you cant turn it off like in other games, it could easily be done without it but NJudea money was too important for id.

Well disabling it would also make most scenes pitch black so. I doubt the bullets are eating that much performance, could even be more effecient with meme RTX cores.

concurrent players

for a single player shooter

kill yourself

Well, I hope they will have some financial success at least because so far it's one of the best FPS I played in a while.

I think some Digital Faggotry guy said it is NOT used for collision detection for projectiles. But it is used to place damage decals on meshes and such.

scenes pitch black

no because most lighting isnt from pathtracing lmao

make slop that requires $1000+ GPU to run

it doesn't sell well

WOOOOOW

Ideal shooter length is like 10-15 hours. Yeah man enjoy your 50 hour long shooter campaign im sure youll enjoy that.

Did you watch Lirik.

Doom 3 mogs the entire shitty nu-trilogy to this day

D3chads just keep winning

Man I can't go back to 60 after soaking up 120+ in the last two games. That hurts

Why are you defending a short, expensive, and bad game?
No.

Who'd you watch?

fucking based

Does it matter? Everyone seems to have the exact same reactions and evaluations to the game. Its too expensive, not fun, and not Doom.

cause you're a dumbass. longer isnt always better and some games are intended to be replayed.

More like Arrestium.

Just slap Brutal Doom into Doom 2 and play in one of the billion custom maps already out there, why the fuck would you need MORE new $80+ slop with muh cool graphix?

~12 hour game

Did he finish on the highest difficulty?
12 hours is actually a lot for a game based on pure action and skill that you're supposed to play several times until you master all the mechanics.
There are arcade games that you can finish in 20 minutes and even then you'll need 100+ hours to really master them.

Did he finish on the highest difficulty?

Yeah, apparently everyone is playing on nightmare and not finding it a significant challenge.

you're supposed to play several times until you master all the mechanics.

Do you really need several playthroughs to master simple mechanics like shield, jump, and shoot?

nonono.. shiternalsissies.... not like this

all smarter niggas played at gamepass SHAR

Do you really need several playthroughs to master simple mechanics like shield, jump, and shoot?

Yes, if the game is hard enough. Doom Eternal for example has a difficulty where you can't die in the whole game, if I'm not mistaken, you won't finish the game on that difficulty without having practiced for several dozen hours first.

hated fighting the Marauder in Eternal

love fighting the Aggadon Hunter in Dark Ages

What's wrong with me?

look it up

starring the doomslayer

dropped

You can't swap weapons.

FUCK HUGO

This fucking chi creatura killed doom.

no level music was good to remember it and i recently plait until level 19

Honestly had more fun with ratchet and clank.

The music is so bland or it's too low, idk. I think even the bland music from Eternal's DLC were more memorable

I don't know much about Hugo, but after hearing about the Mick situation, Marty for sure.

anon this stupid game works in a vanilla ps5 and xbox series S

people still falling for this bait

so they pulled another wolfenstein

first games reboots the franchise, successfully reviving interest in it

second game changes up the formula and becomes extremely divisive as a result

third game turns into a mega shitshow that appeases nobody, pretty much spells the end of the franchise reboot

Why didn't they just get Andrew Hulshult again?
youtu.be/SvyM6ZKZx6U?si=jjHNI0ZSDEFWCj0A

Kinda my point: It works on 5 year old consoles and people are crying about it not working on a 9 year old video card or having poor FPS at 4k on the highest settings.

>third game turns into a mega shitshow that appeases nobody, pretty much spells the end of the franchise reboot

Except this isnt true and you are extremely retarded for using Anon Babble as your only source for everything

you won't finish the game on that difficulty without having practiced for several dozen hours first

Ehh, not really. All you need is the most optimized way of dishing out as much dps in the shortest amount of time as possible+air control+flaming hook. All of that can be obtained right before SGN. The rest is up to your own familiarity with the arena fps.

The shitty danmaku(?) Ikaruga shit its trying to pull off would work in some indie shit like Ultrakill(which does it and better) but it has to be in like a high risk high reward fast setting, you cant glue doomguy to the floor and have him slowly captain america shield the green bullets, its gay and boring.

An anon pointed out that these fags worked in a bunch of xbox published games, it wouldn't be that far fetched to think they got them because it was cheap

Marty straton butthurted ego with his composers not working all he wants for free

anon they re gonna end this medieval autism with a DLC connecting to 2016 there is no more unless they do a bullshit reboot time paradox

So yeah, just like Mick's stuff

They didn't get Andrew back for Dark Ages? The fuck is going on with those devs and their composers?

anon i enjoyed bfg division and doom 2016 intro this game doesnt bother do the dooms gate just warhammer 40k not space marine intro

These two games that suck and are nothing like Doom? Yeah, guess what, this new one is a little bit more like Doom.

Nigga it's Quake.

Eternal is universally praised, it's only divisive in nu-Anon Babble.

game director hating composers( marty straton)

The people fellating DE are Mexican children who can't afford a GPU that can run DA.

Be funny if he was a really jealous "musician" and that's all it was.

nu-DOOM hater

Must likely 2016fag

"I watched a streamer play it"

Lmoa, the do write themselves

Tries too hard to be System Shock 2 but it's not a bad game, just a bad Doom.

Eternal is still the king of the FPS genre.

How is the melee combat? will i get that hexen dopamine again or its mild?

I'm still playing Dark Ages because I'm tired of playing DOOM eternal over and over again

Haven't played eternal, or 2016. I want a fun shooter, not QTEs, gymnastics maneuvers to get ammo, and punching zombies for health and ammo. I hate all the new dooms for trying to one-up COD or some other bullshit shooter mechanic that detracts from SHOOTING.

Thoughts on the new Marauder?

There's no excitement killing monsters in nu-doom.

Pretty cool, fighting him is fun

It's Thursday night/Friday morning depending on where you are, you wont see peak player numbers until tomorrow evening in Western Europe/North America

Why if you're making a game about hell and demons is there not a single mention of christianity?

Like why are they making up bunch of slop about Maykrs and Sentinels when there is more than a thousand years of literature and tradition to draw lore from regarding hell?

Do you really think a 1080ti can't run the game?

how did he get whitewashed?
doesn't look like a latinx anymore

There has never been any explicit mention of Christianity in DooM games. Closest thing is the map names in Thy Flesh Consumed being from bible verses.

holy mother of cope, oblivion remastered was shadow dropped and mogged this game

How do I play DOOM3 without Bethesda RAPED graphics?

I want OG stencil shadows as Cargod intended

but if you're gonna suddenly have a bunch of lore why make shit up about aliens and retarded sentinels

I think it turned everyone off unless you were in it for the godawful plot.
Doesn't appeal to people who liked Eternal
Doesn't appeal to people who liked 2016
Doesn't appeal to classic doom fans
Might appeal to Doom 3 fans given their strange tastes but I doubt it.

It's not cope to state objective fact. In a launch week a games player count tends to peak Friday and Saturday evening in Western Europe and North America. Oblivion has nothing to do with anything.

in the eternal dlc

The angels were bad guys in the base game

Because a AAA publisher in 2025 isn't going to wade into the controversy that canonizing Christian mythology in a video game would bring.

i like i can rocket launcher his face and eat a BFG without tanking it by sheer bullshit plot armor

he got onions

make sure you do your SLAYER CHALLENGES so you can get skill tree points!

*ZOOM BWOOSH slowdown every time you hit anything*

looks like you're coming up on the end of the level. are you sure you don't want to turn around and get all the collectibles? we marked them all on the map for you so you don't miss them

SENTINEL GATE DETECTED. make sure you spend your upgrade points!

you've been shooting things on the ground for a solid 40 minutes now. time to shake things up with a giant robot or flying section in which the gameplay is dumbed down to the most basic level so it can't be any more obvious this is padding

modern games are so fucking gay

game flopped

should have released on Switch or waited for the Switch 2. It's 2025 and niggas still don't grasp that no Switch = flop.

Crackdown 3 isn't even "that happened", it's "did that happen?"

reddit ages floped

who could have seen this happen

Should've made Quake instead of another derivative Doom.

Well that's gay

Yes

*ZOOM BWOOSH slowdown every time you hit anything*

It's honestly absurd how much better the gameplay looks without this.
youtu.be/ddzUGWdxsyA

Resurrection of evil is the right amount imo. Has more variety than og doom 3, isn't as long and feels like they realized the actual fighting in D3 was a bit lack luster.

Wow that actually has fast gameplay and almost looks fun.

Typical Bethesda: make a shitass game everyone snubs, about a year later when 3million mods come out making it playable, then all the fanatics will say its such a good game with at least 400 mods added, yes they all contribute to the constant crashing but then its ACTUALLY fun!

Games that need dozens of mods to be playable or 'good' aren't good games.

I have OG Doom 3 on steam which you can't buy, but I think you can just pirate it. I also have original disc, but original disc prolly cost a ton due to rarity

120 bux+ price
just forcing people to go to gaypass instead of fat jew

Doom the dark ages is a very obvious pivot from a game that spent most of its development as a quake reboot. That's why the whole flow of everything is completely different and it's in a medieval setting with lovecraftian shit.

There's event a power gauntlet and a nail gun.

its lighting is a work of art, but the game itself gets really boring at times

Fuck you, I'm parrying!

i didnt play it, but i watched MoonMoon play it. it looked generic as fuck and nothing new or better than the 2 previous modern entries.
i was bored as fuck.

That's what they deserve for shitting on the composer who was carrying the other two games.
Great Circle is ass. The best Indy game is Infernal Machine, because it actually has puzzles beyond a 1st grade level. And you can blow up animals with a bazooka in that game.

Filtered as expected.

that sword is so gay and retarded

because the idea of having red demons to fight is biblically inaccurate, humans can't stop demons with anything but prayer
also doomguy is jewish anyway so kek

bethesda dont make doom

I watched a streamer play it

Humiliation ritual.

being on gamepass doesn't preclude a games to sell well

It makes sense to rent on gamepass if you are good at action games or play on the easiest mode for the story. For RPGs, not so much.

doomguy is jewish

thats just Bethesda retcon, not canon

Fuck you, its cool

I can't focus on anything during the combat, it feels like a massive clusterfuck

I'm not a fan of how every miniboss is just a 1v1 whenever they show up.

Getting killed by a tiny projectile in the middle of all the colour vomit is fucking annoying.

*Sucks

IT gay retarded and fucking useles for how much build up it has in 2016, that you cant even chop a marauder in half legally without exploiting bugs to ignore his retarded inmunities

They don't even let you use the one from 2016, it was a really weird decision to have Samuel Hayden be "killed" before the slayer can get tochim

doom 1 good

doom 2 great

doom 3 bad

doom 16 good

doom eternal great

doom dark ages bad

doom ???? good

Cant wait

well, Anon Babble was wrong the past two times, kinda had that going against the predictions.(the apoplectic mental collapse over Elden Ring's success didn't help either)

doom 2 great

doom eternal great

i would play it but it's so badly optimized that it doesnt run in my machine

Everyone is playing it on GamePass instead of paying the new jewed up price

tortanic failed and I dare you to say Doom 2 flopped

it was a really weird decision to have Samuel Hayden be "killed" before the slayer can get tochim

I still don't know what the fuck they were thinking with this
They have a decent build up leading into either robo-satan taking over humanity or him falling to his own hubris, and then the sequel starts and he's gone and the main villain is some literal who that you've never heard of

This game is Doom Nukem Eternal. They chose style over substance and the style isn't even a highlight

i think you get both if you have bfg edition on steam i have both but only ever bought the original version i just copied the pak files into dhewm3 source port is how i play its pretty good

Is it even out for people yet?
Or is it just the premium version

It didn't flop financially, but it was objectively worse than the first game.

IM HERE TO KICK CACODEMON ASS AND IM OUT OF CACODEMON ASS, BALLS AND STEELS

Everyone is playing on gamepass lil bud, only retards spend $80 on a fucking shooter

Today is release date

guess what

GUESS FUCKING WHAT

I don't even feel bad for lowering this piece of fucking shit. What the fuck is this dogshit video game? You are constantly dying to random fucking bullshit and it feels like you have no fucking control over any of it. Just complete fucking chaos, nothing is satisfying about this dogshit piss gameplay. What a fucking travesty this game is.

FUCK THIS GAME

get good

I beat Eternal on Nightmare. This is not fun, this is not good. This is Ultra-Violence and its literally just complete fucking nonsense, constantly. I am fucking seething, legitimately seething at how fuc,king bad this is

eternal is basically a third game after a nonexistent second game. they explain literally nothing about how he got the fortress of doom, how demons invaded earth, etc
in 2016 the demons only invaded because of olivia pierce letting them in lol

Eternal babbies can't STAND AND FIGHT

or him falling to his own hubris

He did.

Welcome to the modern world.

uhhhh his robot body was made of maykr tech, humans don't understand it!

this was such a gay and retarded twist

I see it, good take

You only learn about it something like halfway through the game, it's silly

The entire 3rd episode of Ultimate Doom is dull padding along with the 4th episode starting off with some of the most bullshit maps in the series.

At least the bullshit maps in Doom 2 are few and far between.

It explains why he knows literally everything about Hell.

Anon Babble hates the idea of people enjoying things

Are steam fags actually fucking retarded? The games free on the Goyimpass you braindead faggot. Why the FUCK would you pay $70 for a single player game you dumb asshole.

Can someone please post his leaks?
He's doing it for me right now.

Goyimpass

How the fuck do you call it this and not know the answer to that question?

I don't do subscription services as a rule.

lmao Pussy.

The point is the steam numbers don't apply to gamepass games because people download it free*™ on the Xbox app or Microsoft store and not through steam.

Steam numbers work for shit like Concord or Balders Gate 3 but not for Goon the dark gays

Stop being a retard defending devs demanding you have insane hardware when their older titles looked just as good and ran even better on lesser hardware.

issa single player boomer shooter, what did you expect? Marvel Rivals numbers? lol

I guess the next nudoom has to be dumbed down even harder

The game has almost no indication that you're taking damage. I don't even understand what kills me and this isn't to be confused with the game being difficult, it's way easier than Eternal.

It does. You're blind and deaf. Get good.

I'm glad I realized I wasn't having much fun within the first hour so I could still get a refund. It looks pretty nice but turning the Doom Slayer into Captain America was a cute novelty that wore thin real quick. The menus felt out of a PS2 game from 2004, whatever they replaced glory kills with felt so lame and stiff and usually just put you in a worse position than if you just don't do them at all, and then there was a turret section at the end of the first level that felt like it took the momentum out of everything that happened before. Maybe I'll get this when it's heavily discounted but $70 is criminal.

Get good.

Sorry, Hugo. How about the game gets good instead?

I loved Eternal. This looks... Mediocre. I'll buy it for half price or something in a year or two.

how is a 3070 or later insane hardware? How is having under a 5 year old gaming computer insane?

The giant neon orange bitemark on the middle of the screen isn't enough indication you've taken melee damage?

retard

Sorry, but the game just isn't for low skill players.

Why is there so many extra lives in every level? I’ve had to force myself to not use them

I'm better than you at FPS games. I guarantee that. This barely qualifies as one.

I never used them at all. If you used extra lives, you didn't beat the game.

Then why can't you handle a game you call easy? Keep coping, shitter.

Somehow Anon Babble also hates when people criticize things

People hated the Marauder so what if we made an entire video game that is based around waiting for a green light to pop up on every single enemy

Great one.

I never called the game hard, retard. Your niggerbrain is too fried to understand feedback.

Did you play eternal? That game had the gay medieval shit too with the ardent crusaders. It's just an entire game now. I don't like it either it was insane whiplash after playing 2016 and eternal both for the first time back to back. I thought I missed a gay book tie in or something you wake up on a spaceship castle floating in space it jumped the shark years ago desu

I never called the game hard

Damn, you're starting to see words that aren't there lmao

Doesn't look near as cool as Eternal, plus I'm not paying 80€ for a videogame.

Doom 2016 was great. Eternal was alright, i thought it had really bad problems and the gameplay was more annoying than fun with a shittier narrative and god awful final boss. Dark ages looks like it took all the bad from eternal and just cranked that up with all the glowing shit and then stripped out the good stuff aka the speed

why can't you handle feedback for a mediocre title? The one thing cherrypicked was amateur-looking cat scratches on your screen for melee like that's relevant.

ITS PERFORMING WORSE THAN FUCKING SKYRIM, WHAT IS HAPPENING???

You're blind and deaf. Try getting hit and paying attention sometime. Claiming there isn't any feedback is just you embarrassing yourself.

The 2016/Eternal soundtracks were hot fucking garbage

holy fuck this, what the fuck, I can stand it but people putting it in videos like it's some sort of peak awesome music no no no

Name a better FPS soundtrack.

they probably didn't want to be associated with them after that

I'm pretty sure Andrew Hulshult has collaborated with id since his work on Eternal.

I genuinely can't stand the parry system shit. I might not even finish this game

Doom 2

Deus Ex Human Revolution

Doom: The Dark Ages

Cyberpunk 2077

Project Warlock

Halo 1-3 + ODST + Reach

Warhammer 40k Darktide

Black Mesa

Half Life 2

System Shock 1 + 2 + Remake

Republic Commando

tfw we don't live in a timeline where Imperial Commando was finished

how in the fuck 3rd episode is padding? it even has BFG and spiderdemon to see for the first time
4th episode is an actual padding with shit maps

plenty of payday2 tracks are MUCH better

They replaced Mick with a company called "Finishing Move Inc.," a literal corporate entity who has done music for The Men's Wearhouse. Anon Babble should be screaming "soulless" from the tops of their lungs.

finishingmoveinc.com/music

doom 2016's soundtrack is massively overrated, but it does have some bangers
youtube.com/watch?v=hFrzOMinwKU
olivia pierce as an antagonist mogs anything in eternal or tda lol, imagine being btfo'd by a bitch with scoliosis

I just want 16 with Eternals movement speed.

Where did all the players from Doom Eternal go?

Jobs, lives etc because there aren't Covid lockdowns to carry this mediocre game this time.

I assumed this whole time Andrew Hulshult and David Levy (Eternal DLC guys) were doing this. Interest in this just tanked. What the fuck, is id stupid?

DOOM 2016 is THE perfect Doom game. It is the pinnacle and crowning achievement of the franchise.

I turned on the damage indicator thing and nightmare became alot more managable
still alot of annoying shit like shadow imps and mancubussy instakilling you up close

Before I moved out from one of the shittiest neighborhoods in my shithole country we used to have this old neighbor, she was an old bitter hag
No one loved her and she hated everyone

However she would talk with people all the time at her porch or in the supermarket, she hated everything and wanted everything and everyone around her fail

I remember at my nephew graduation when we came back happy and talking about it she heard us and she even told him he will fail and his "graduation paper" is meaningless and he's a bum and deserves to be homeless

He makes six figures now, has a family and successful

When I came back a while ago to visit a friend I learned that she died and apparently the only way they found out was because the smell of her corpse rotting.
No one came to her funeral too

You guys remind me of her,
Bitter, unlovable and very lonely

you would rather see the world collapse including things you enjoy instead of getting your shit together and facing your own failures.

I don't get why they even bothered to give the Mancubus a parryable attack, because he'll just destroy you with the flamethrowers up close.

No, Marty Stratton is just a spiteful, egotistical fuck

I can not even fathom having an opinion this shit.

like hes designed to double-tap you to really hammer in the lesson "stun or stay away"

Half my deaths in the first few chapters were my instinct to shield bash/melee him after a parry since it works on basically every other enemy

They were always overrated. A few memorable melodies/mixes per game, the rest being forgettable
Meathook is still GOAT tho

GO WOKE GO BROKE LOL

bullet sponge

ssg one shotting hell knights and arachnotrons

puts mancubus, pinkies and revenants into glory strike mode

What did he mean bybthis

It was weird how the Imps had more health than Hell Knights.

gun game

omg sword and shield slayer DEUS VULT

The concept was retarded

nvidia gaytracing is unnecessary, my 7900XT could eat this game but now I have to deal with framedrops because of some fucking puddle on the floor probably + denuvo + i don't buy games before they drop to $50 because no game is worth more than that

empty corridor - arena with spawning monsters

repeat till the end of the game

Not my Doom.

why does pulling levers sound like you're slapping a man's ass

Not a great Doom game
But a bombass game, especially if you're into survival horror games, you can go ham at later levels with strong guns

But the early game is slow paced, and honestly I actually love the story and mood.

Starter Guns are pea shooters and the flashlight had a 5 inch radius kek

Visually its actually super impressive even today, a lot of nice lighting tricks and texture work

It has heavy emphasis on the horror element

Shotgun basically has the range of birthday confetti but clears the screen at short range.

Now explain other recent Gamepass games.

Oblivion - 150k+
Expedition 33 - 100k+

also

quake & funko pops

But a bombass game

niggerspeak

Die

especially if you're into survival horror games,

Ah yes, a survival horror game which has zero tension or survival elements.

You type like you got molested as a kid by your rabbi.

nigger

immediately thinks about jews, kids and molestation

and you type like a dumbfucking room temp. iq nigger

The move I think about it, the more I don't blame these guys. Why the fuck would you put in any effort to an ID soundtrack now, when Marty Stratton could just sperg out at you, and try and ruin your career? Put in your 9-5, and create that minimum viable product. Literally no blame towards that. And you as an individual can't get slandered, cause it's a company doing the work. Unlike Mick, who Marty tried to ruin the life of.

So did him being a hundred plus year old cyborg who'd spent decades studying it.

Those are RPGs. Nobody wants to rent those for a month and lose all progress after cancelling the subscription.

nu-DOOM hater

Excuse you, are you defending nu DOOM? 4 years ago some anon calling you a nu DOOM hater was a badge of honor, you want to invert the now with the overwhelming power of your faggotry?

The mech and dragon levels are fucking terrible holy shit.

dude, that is literally the equivalent of a major plot point happening offscreen and then only mentioned 60% of the way into the film.

He's just a secondary character.

all hit detection in every game ever since old quake is done with ray casting
how the fuck is it possible to even do it differently?

hitboxes are bigger for optimization, multiple games just use the models instead of separate collision/hit boxes

Projecting this hard

Shalom, Lamarquees

The moment I saw blocking and parry slop, I knew it's going to be shit and not worth my time.

It wasn't Doom.

Many such cases! Resident Evil, Tomb Raider, Metal Gear, Final Fantasy, Diablo. The new shit SUCKS, what else can ya say? Soulless cash grab garbage made for the masses.

He *became* one in Eternal. In 2016, they built him up toward the end as a potential antagonist for whatever game came next. He had a lot to do with how things shook out as they did in that game, and after you dealt with the cripple bitch in the suit they basically implied Sam could be a problem later now that he has the sword and sent you away after admitting "I can't kill you, but..."

The point being they took that thread and totally chucked in the trash in Eternal. Suddenly he's nowhere, you're in a space station, your enemy is this retarded fake angel thing, and Sam shows up as barely even a tertiary character who is out of comission. Not to say DOOM plotlines are something for which to stand on ceremony, just pointing out it's bad writing and really sloppily done from a narrative standpoint.

I knew they were going to be awful in the announcement trailer. Serious Sam 4 had tanks and mechs and shit it just felt awkward and I hated doing it. Every mech piloting game i've ever seen that wasn't dedicated (like mech warrior or whatever) has just been a terrible experience. I cannot figure out what devs are thinking when putting them into games, its just dumb and feels like a stupid minigame.

Surprised nobody is bringing up the turret segments either

Oh cool doom guy is gonna rip that turret off and get to shoot giant hordes of enemies right

No he just sits in it and lets enemies damage him whatever

The fuck?

the problem is that they are never integrated
if you could take off on a dragon at any time but risked being shut down and had full control where you go it would require from then an actual effort on level design
instead they just break up the gameplay

The dragon sections could have been cool if there was actual dogfighting, but the combat is just sitting there holding right click and pressing space at the right moment.

I wanted Hexen, not Hexen lazily bolted onto Doom

The devs have never played panzer dragoon i guess which has way more involvement of having to watch all your angles as you shoot. A game on the saturn.

It makes me excited for the new Metroid Prime game

He made it this way out of spite. Corporate mandates so he took it to the extreme.

pretty sure its by design
for what ever reason this game is designed around dodging and parrying, not around long distance shooting
i noticed ever since gauss gun in 2016 they been nerfing your long range options, the "anti fun" design philosphy of making sure there is no way to "cheat" the combat and play in any unintentional way
the same devs would patch out quake-hl2 era bunny hopping and call it cheating

the problem is that they are never integrated

Thats the gaming industry in a nutshell. The games are made by comittee that is headed and final vote on by some dickhead that doesn't even play videogames. Hire a bunch of women and diversity hires, poorly implement fun elements from other games or random meeting ideas, mash it together, and ship it. DLC and updates later because they've spent several hundred million and the company boss wants to see return on the dollar.

Games like Doom 1 and 2 were made by nerds just wanting something fun. Halflife 1 and 2 was again, nerds making something fun. Now there are billion dollar companies with overhead and ongoing expenses that just have to make something to sell, no they don't care if its not fun or even good. See every failure of a game in the last 10 years: concorde, world of warcraft (before classic) cyberpunk, max payne 5, every battle royale shooter you've never heard of, every team shooter. They're all kinda copying each other without any thought as to the game being good or fun.

Which sounds a lot like most cars, music, movies, and fast food.

2016 just had the gauss and a shitty rifle scope. Eternal made that scope into one of the best weapons in the game.
But yeah, they went really heavy-handed in forcing the player to get up close in this game.

Just beat it myself, here are the thoughts of a random anon that got it for """"free"""" with a new graphics card

gameplay is fun, though definitely a deliberate departure from 2016 and Eternal

game ran well aside from a single instance of having to reinstall the drivers, kept a rock steady 60 fps that I think something else was going on, only dipped to like 58 frames twice in the menu I think, never during gameplay

entire reason the game exists is to explore the time the doomguy was fighting with the Night Sentinels in their own war against Hell, but the story is a disjointed mess and lacking a lot of context and connective tissue, I'd bet anything things were piled up to their ankles in the cutting room floor

never get a good sense of how the war is going for the Sentinels other than "bad", no context on whether they're on their last legs or if the entire game is just surgical strikes

honestly thought the king was dead after the scene of him fighting the bbg until he just popped up in the radio chatter for the mission after Thira is kidnapped

there should have been SOMETHING between the portal snapping closed right in front of our noses and us going to a place with an open portal that will apparently lead us right to her

no context for how big Sentinel civilization is beyond old lore form Eternal, with them being both interstellar and interdimensional

they have giant robots and dimensional shields on maybe-is-mars-maybe-isn't-mars, but somehow they're losing the war handily

almost every single weapon comes out of the same "orbital drop pod" can or whatever, including the Atlan shotgun that had presumably been sitting in Hell since their failed offensive however long ago, seriously depriving the game of the "diageticness" of 2016 and Eternal

Dragon was eh, Atlan I feel was used too early and messed with the perspective of the once-monstrous titans that were landmarks in the previous games, now you kill dozens in level 3, shoulda waited longer

No sign of the runic energy blades the Sentinels used to be known for except the Betrayer guy and his hammer

Hell priests from Eternal appear maybe twice, once to start the plot and once in the background

The Betrayer's son survives, so the whole him dying and being resurrected as the Icon of Sin is almost certainly going to be what the DLC story is about

Doomguy literally dying and going to Hell may or may not have opened a can of worms and removed any tension from him dying by pulling a Kratos and fighting his way out of hell, but it is both unclear if he would have been lost in Limbo forever without the ritual to resurrect him, and also how you got in and out of hell in the original Doom

Said ritual may have given the Betrayer a portion of the power Doomguy got from the Divinity Treatment the Seraphim gave him by walking into the circle, which would explain how he was alive in Eternal while Doomguy was sealed in Hell for thousands of years after the Sentinals lost their war

Honestly felt like a Destiny 2 story at the end of it all

I enjoyed playing the game, but I was kinda checked out of the story by the end of it
Probably would have been pissed if I was looking forward to it and paid for it, instead of just remembering it existed when I got it for """"free"""""
okay/10, beat it in 30 hours on ultraviolence, minus a couple I took a break while leaving the game running

the story is a disjointed mess and lacking a lot of context and connective tissue

I thought I accidentally skipped a cutscene when one of the levels had the castle covered in tentacles out of nowhere.

Playing Expedition then Dark Ages back to back is fucking sad, especially music wise holy shit Expedition has NO bad songs its not even fair to Doom.

also music was unremarkable, which I guess makes sense with no Mick Gordon

nothing will breat eternal starting in flying castle out of nowhere after doom 2016 ended

its like they take a perverse pleasure in make the exposition shit and incoherent

Is this an ATM?

The whole Hell section felt rushed and like it could have been extended for another level. It would have been nice to see how fucked everyone was when Doomguy was in Hell, but it seems like business as usual during that time.

AND ONE MORE THING, I kept getting the feeling that Dark Ages was EXACTLY the kind of game 2016 was making fun of, and I don't think its good enough to make that work for it

this but the opposite
OG doom didn't have color-coded MMORPG mechanics.

unistalled after 1h

nothing really offended me, but i don't really understand how this gunplay is fun, shoot 2 times until the enemy is glowing and then do a glory kill, repeat x100 times, oh and sometimes they shoot something green that you need to parry to make them glow, it was free on the goypass and just wanted to try the performance tho, still ultra cringe.

The castle isn't that big a deal to me, do you need to see every moment of Doomguy's life? He previously fought with space-faring knights, he was their king at one point. He has a space castle as a command station, alright.
The thing that stands out more to me is why the Betrayer is still alive. How long ago was Doomguy trapped in the coffin? How long do Sentinels live for?

Serious Sam 4 had tanks and mechs and shit

The mechs in 4 are bad but the chainsaw mech in Siberian Mayhem is pretty fun.
The tank in SM is alright except for the sentry towers. You can do that segment on foot btw (it spawns ammo if you do).

The thing that stands out more to me is why the Betrayer is still alive. How long ago was Doomguy trapped in the coffin? How long do Sentinels live for?

I think he got some of the divinity treatment power by stepping into the ritual circle they used to bring doomguy back from the dead, they make a point to showcase it in the cutscene, so I think he's "at least" ageless, maybe a full copy of doomguy without the unrelenting rage
also the argent elixer mentioned in Eternal probably had some effect on their overall vitality, so he probably got something from that
To me Sentinels are "fantasy humans" compared to Earth's "scifi/normal humans"

I don't know the backstory, but it's just Serious Sam 4 with much, much better levels with more fun secrets, new weapons, bigger enemy hordes, and less cringe voice acting.
It's on gog so you can play it for free. It's only a few hours.

Croteam lets people use the "Serious Sam" name for all kinds of unrelated games, like top down roguelike bullet hell shit. This is just a standalone expansion pack to 4.

It's too expensive and too demanding. Fucking top end PCs from two years ago can barely run it.

Shitty optimization

No content outside of a 10-20 hour campaign

Parry Slop

Turret Slop

No mod support or custom maps

No multiplayer or Co-op mode

Focus exclusively on the story

Focus on difficulty sliders and accessibility features

BuT dUDe Le MeChs aNd lE DraGoNs!

Is this the most anti doom game in the series? Seriously Doom 3 was more faithful than this and that was a le Spoopy horror game.
This whole game feels like DEI slop made by browns and troons to appeal to every mental ill faggot who has a panic attack if the game gets "too intense". We could've got a new Quake in house, but Hugo Spic and Shill Spencer wasted their time browsing reddit for ideas on the laziest cashgrab slop they could make. RIP ID and Doom

I can't wrap my head around the decision to make it RT cards only when that market is still the minority on PC.

Maybe they thought the console market would pick up the slack but I dunno man.

Personally I'd rather them try something new and fail than rehash the same old shit and live long enough to see the series wither and die like so many others
I mean, what's one bad game gonna do to Doom? It's DOOM, there will always be a chance to try again later

The night sentinel story worked in 2016 because it was sprinkles of lore on an otherwise perfectly good cake of a base game
Eternal doubles the sprinkles, but some people like that
No one likes a cake that's entirely covered in sprinkles

Trying new shit is fine. The problem arises when it becomes a sole replacement for the old shit. Like parrying/blocking is fine but you should let me run and gun like in the other games as well and then just add that on top of it. This game doesnt feel like a "New Doom" but instead like a "Game that was inspired by Doom". Would've worked better as a new Hexen/Heretic

i second this motion

slop lovers loving this slop too much

nah but you can shotgun into parry with like no delay unless im retarded and forgetting, and after the parry animation is over you can shotgun again. tried to look for a webm that shows it.

you can also shotgun into parry into melee into shotgun again

There was more quality music in the first two levels of Eternal than there is in the entirety of TDA

I watched a streamer play it.

Kys

The only correct decision. Continue Quake 1 amd bring back classic Death Match

indy devs are mogging these dumb AAA studios.

I really like stunning mancubi with the shield and walking up to shove the super shotgun as deep in their faces as possible, but overall I think the regular shotgun was better, especially with the burn mod on to turn the packs of zombies and soldiers into free armor refills

why didn't they just make a better game than eternal instead?

Why didn't he just make a good game?

I never finished it but i'm tempted to reinstall mine. I still have my discs.

Where are the slayer gates and cheat codes and music disks and master levels n shit
Honestly I like the game but I don't know if I'm going to replay it past a 2nd nightmare with more speed. Having difficult fully upgraded gameplay focused dlc like in eternal would be great so I can just replay that instead.

This game is just too long for a casual playthrough every once in a while, and the rollout of weapons and equipment is way too linear to vary up playthroughs. All you can choose is what you upgrade first. And upgrading a branched tier gives you both options right away.

the combat shotgun is straight up i think the worst gun in the game lmao, you'll notice it the second you get the SSG because its the best gun in the game in comparison.

the armor refill 1 armor per shard so on nightmare it does nothing, and i think the triple shot is not actually triple damage, it feels like weakened individual shots so you just use a ton of ammo for nothing.

This is still the most cringe mechanic invented.

punch zombie imps for ammo for your gun that somehow works and is for your gun.

imps are carrying ammo for you

imps know which gun you have?

why are imps helping you? Do they have pitty for you and think you are retarded and cannot load your own gun?

imps explode into colorful confetti. Just like in the original doom. Oh wait....

I wish I knew Nightmare nerfed the pickups so hard on Nightmare, I would have increased their values. That was the worst part of 2016.

master levels in eternal were a preorder bonus, arc complex and cultist base. i am really hoping they do master levels for TDA though because those were my favorite content in Eternal, in general i have high hopes for DLC+Master Levels for this game because even some base campaign fights i have been struggling with despite doing TAG1 on ultra nightmare

forgot to say, preorder bonus + post launch content.

He looks like a faggot. I want to punch the shit out of his face

i havent upgraded the flail to give you armor but ye i think the fact its almost impossible to quickly recover like in eternal to full hp+armor is intentional. you only get tiny crumbs of hp from fodder, you cant just run away and flame belch fodder in a corner

SSG because its the best gun in the game in comparison

the fuck you mean?
it's strong I'll give you that, but it feels like it has no range now
combat shotie on the other hand is perfect for one-tapping lost souls at a distance
if we're talking bad guns I hardly ever used the skull guns or the launchers
the eldritch flail or whatever its called took a while for me to warm up to, but with the upgrade that turns a parry into a fully charged shot its perfect for dueling the big demons
plasma guns are good too

A flail in a doom game

what part of doom is this from? these devs are insufferable.

stock upgrade super shotgun oneshots arachnotrons and hell knights, the range is also irrelevant because 90% of combat happens in melee range besides those annoying spider tank faggots. i agree for those i prefer the chain ball thing

Where did all the players from Doom Eternal go?

I'm not buying this shit, gaming peaked at eternal and I have functioning eyes to see dark ages was shit before it even came out

Remember to get the Redux mod for an enhanced experience.
moddb.com/mods/doom-3-redux

The second skull gun was fun to shoot bigger monsters with, but the first one felt completely useless. Its job is mowing down hordes of little guys, but your shield throw does that without taking up ammo.

Sorry, but we had to return to our Doom roots.

Why the fuck my extra lifes randomly not work sometimes?

more like THE WOKE AGES

Will we literally ever see the fucking Wretch?
also I wonder who the other two Wraiths are in 2016 Aregent D'nur, since Thira apparently has the soul of the "last Wraith"
Also, how were their living Sentinels in Eternal after the gladiator demon boss fight if Argent D'nur in 2016 is their homeworld after being literally absorbed into Hell?

no physical no buy

saving money and passing that onto the customer for cheaper games

I just 100% the game. From the concept art, it looks like they toyed with the idea of making a Female Slayer and also making Thira a villain. I wouldn’t doubt this game was in development hell and they rushed this together since too much time had passed. There are concepts that are more high fantasy like Urdak and even more medevial stuff. It’s a shame that was left on the cutting room floor.

There is still dlc coming and it does feel like there was supposed to be more modes

The entire thing is just very barebones, even the story. I just don’t get nearly all of the choices for the game. It’s unfortunate because I wanted to like it but left feeling disappointed.

Right but the DLC isn’t gonna resurrect Serrat or change him to be more of a Tiger without wings like the Pinky Rider in more full medieval looking gear like the concept art. If you have that load up the Miscellaneous tab and you’ll see what I’m talking about

die and go to hell

Game plays the "you will be worse" clip when I don't think Novik has said a single word to Doomguy yet

When the fuck did that happen then?

the argument is now between
2 > 1 > 3
or
1 > 2 > 3
and 3 will always be last

Is all the concept stuff uploaded anywhere, or do I have to waste 17gb installing it?

My 1080ti can't boot it.

That hell segment was a wasted opportunity tot take away your guns and drip feed them back to you. The only mechanical difference being a zombie made was having access to the only powerup in the game.

too expensive. 120 aud for basic edition fuck that

Just found this. Check 21:19 for one of the moments I referenced. youtube.com/watch?v=jDHueF6ngcY

I think Eternal got a massive bump from covid.

no giant nervous system boss