When will zoomers realize old vidya was better too?

there was a point in time when genuinely talented people did CGI, now its farmed out to lowest bidder Indian sweatshops

I have 800 hours in Morrowind

That can't be ri-

gen z 1997-2012

Jesus, time goes so fast

zoomers can only barely operate their phones

When they can into platforming and tank controls, and adopt a general mindset of: you aren't supposed to win at every game you play, and that's okay

I have Crash 3 running right now, just taking a dinner break.

yet nobody does

?
Whenever they rerelease they sell more than the current thing

I'm 18 and barely play games anymore (lot more of a music person nowadays) but when I do it's usually pre-eighth gen. I grew up somewhat with the eighth gen but that was more my brother's thing. After a while I always ended up gravitating right back to the Wii and 360.

You are too old for video games, you should be married and enlisting to your military already.

No time

one of these came out in 2014

yet nobody does

People sticking to playing old games is quite literally one of the biggest factors why so many new games aren't selling like they used to

No they don't

People sticking to playing old games is quite literally one of the biggest factors

Wrong

yes they do, and correct.

Those are new games. Like calling The Thing (1982) a 1950s film.

They are better.
And I am playing them.

Nope, only 14% play a game older than the year 2000, only autists(like yourself) play the same game over and over and never move on

zoomers

Isn't gen Z close to being 30 by now? How long are you people gonna complain about this generation?

Single black scientist proves that all black people are smart!

older than the year 2000

let me move the goalpost all the way over here, I hope you don't mind

TRVTH NVKE

Current game is Okami.

it rhymes with boomers so they will be the eternal punching bag

generation alpha are the oolphers

Not really true, but I get where you are coming from.
Say we take a classic game like thief gold: it has 24 players right now, which sounds pathetic.
But if you like older games, there are billions to chose from, so the user base that like those games are spread out thin, they can be playing anything form the pas 30 years or so.
People who only play new games only see something as good if it has 100k players or so, but those numbers are hit by marketing and thus fomo and because , well its new, there is only a handfull of new games at any given time, so the user base will be more focused.

But that lesson aside, who the fuck cares what people think about the games you enjoy. What you might think is better others might not like that new thing and it really doesnt matter.

Its games, its a pass time, not some high art we are consuming.

Nobody's playing new games either.

nobody dies

Nigger please, the industry is crying because people actually prefer to play older games than whatever the fuck is nearly released.

Probably until they all die.

It's a shame because there's still some movies coming out now that have fantastic cgi, like the modern PotA movies, but most other big budget films get Ant Man 3 levels of awful outsourced crap.

I replay either Starcraft or Brood War's campaign annually, and im thinking of throwing Homeworld and Cataclysm into a similar rotation.

Hell yeah I love new games from the last 2 years like Resident Evil 4, Silent Hill 2, MGS Snake Eater, TES Oblivion, and Metroid Prime

At its oldest yes, but Gen Z caps off around 2012, making the youngest in my generation 12-13. So yeah, still another 5-6 years before everyone's an adult; and a lot of them will still be really fucking stupid.

The cut-off for Gen Z is being able to remember how free life was before 9/11.
Before Columbine and before the World Wide Web also factor into it, but 9/11 is the great divider.

2000s was the space race of CGI. Everyone was competing to make the best shit after LOTR dominated the oscars, it all peaked with Avatar in 2009. 2010s really phoned it in with the marvel slop, and it's been downhill since with mass numbers of chinks and indians churning out steaming CGI shit.

At the rate their going and the way they're acting, forever.
Just like every generation before us.

Goy wars

The whole reason for modern CGI looking like ass is because of morons like George Lucas.
Attack of the Clones is infamous for rushing production due to poor and indecisive management, forcing crunch time and looking like shit.
CGI looks good when given time, complemented by practical effects and enabled by good forward planning, none of which is on display in TV and movies being pushed out by major publishing companies. Hell it's not even unheard of for modern movies to simply erase their painstakingly constructed practical effects completely or discard almost all of their principal photography, because they can just CGI it.
So many new games sell like shit because they have no target audience, they are just a dog and pony show for investors, so it is perfectly fine if they never cultivate good developers or hire managers that aren't just grifters with a degree.
People still complain about Millennials ruining everything, despite only Gen X and Boomers currently being in any position to ruin anything.

Oh but this writer is a millennial

And that writer is almost certainly completely subservient to and hand-picked by Gen X or Boomers.

Hence 1996-1997 as the beginning years of the generation! Someone born then would've ranged from 3-5 when 9/11 happened, which is statistically (there are a few exceptions, but most kids would have been too young) not old enough to really have any experience with life pre-9/11. I think that the cutoff isn't 1995 because they would've been 5-6 in 2001, which is when most people enter first grade.

As a zoomGOD that optimus prime isn't from the 2000's that's the design from the 4th or 5th movie
Also Im pretty sure the monkey is from 2017 but I could very much be wrong

Launch counter strike source. You will instantly find a 5v5 defuse game without any trouble. This completely and utterly BTFOs your thesis

Zoomers are scared to even pirate kek

There's no hard and fast date cutoffs for generations because different people develop differently. A time range is reasonable - such as saying that 1995-97 is the cusp between Gen Y and Gen Z.

For the ones born after 2004 sure, but for the others between 1997 and 2000, I don't think so

Yeah, I'd say 1995-1997 is the cusp but 1995 (to me) is really stretching it.

People play old games every day.

If I don’t see or hear it, it’s not happening.

Also Im pretty sure the monkey is from 2017 but I could very much be wrong

That's from the 2005 King Kong film. Still holds up really well.

That's from the 2005 King Kong film. Still holds up really well.

Oh wow, that's pretty neat

Im not fucking dying for israel. Nice try.

PCSX2 thread just reached 500+ replies yesterday here on Anon Babble
Anon Babble is more active than ever

It's just the current cool poast.

bro the old games I meant are fortnite! Thats from 8 years ago!

They're still playing fortnite and minecraft

CGI tanked because it became a race to the bottom to find the Indian server farm that would produce the most content, in the shortest time, for the lowest cost.

No American troops have ever died for Israel tho

putting visual vomit like the transformers movies and the absolute disaster that is AoC CGI on the same level as King Kong and Davy Jones

This, they die for all the blacks, trannies, and neets back home

Not if you have a PC, lol
Consolecucks keep crying

i am literally playing megaman legends 2 right now

outsource everything to china, india and mexico

or, worse, outsource it to AI trained on data from china, india and mexico

it becomes shit

noooo wayyyyy

Maybe I'm just a blind fool, but I think the first Transformers movie had some really solid cgi that holds up well.
youtu.be/fGYXGdLd7ik?si=kS8Dsb1GOFDICfpa

delisted on steam

removed from microsoft store

zero seeds

I don't think so

They die for the sake of affordable products back home.

no one is talking about your pixelshit slop

old games can only means snes and ps 1 games!

I was like that too at 18 then eventually got bored as fuck of music and playing instruments and went back to gaming full force. Lots of my old friends are over 30 and I see them still gigging in dive bars and trying to "make it" and it's genuinely embarrassing. Spending their limited money on guitars and amps even though their music sucks. They're all fat and bald but dress like theyre Danzig or something.

Seeing a bunch of my old friends acting like they're still in high school, smoking weed and getting ugly tattoos makes me so happy I quit the music scene when I did. I have new hobbies like lifting and drawing now but gaming is always there for you when you need it.

youre so retarded it physically hurt me

old game means game from last year!

I can only think in extremes!

Note that the scale is true and unprecedented
Everyone overwhelmingly plays "old games" like Fortnite/Minecraft/GTA5

These aren't the Based PS1 JRPGs that every neckbeard says they SHOULD be playing
But they ARE utterly cannibalizing the revenue of all new games in a way that's never happened in the industry before, every prior generation was determined by the Current Big Thing also being the bestseller

It's also very humorous and ironic that Nintendo is the LEAST affected by this trend, in spite of being famously nostalgia-obsessed, their fans are quite willing to consistently shell out cash for whatever they've shit out this week in a way no other gamer community is anymore

Do you guys ever get tired of wallowing in your misery? Find another hobby

roblox passed minecraft

what a time to be alive

say nobody plays them

no why are people coming in with the contrary

The previous generations said the same thing about tv.

Some American troops have died by Israel tho

and were they wrong? I go to my parents house and the TV is always going non stop

what the hell same thing here

That's because they let CGI artists actually work instead of turning them into sweatshop slaves pumping out CGI work on a 4 month cycle.

no 1997 is last millenium, it start for z at 1998

Last month the #1 bestselling game in the world was The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion and the top movie in theaters was Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith.

All the normies still have Netflix and nobody actually watches anything on Netflix except random weekly shows from twenty years ago.

Society has utterly abandoned its own pop culture output and somehow the creators of said pop culture are shockingly unconcerned with this.

Thanks to buzzword distractions like open world, [#]K, HDR, ray tracing, etc, they'll never realize because the vidya equivalent of one of those baby toys that lights up and plays gay songs

Yeah and look where TV got us

Sorry they're not live service lil' bro

they didn't even have to, israel came to them
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

tv doesn't broadcast people getting eaten by machinery or sucking off animals

Enjoying my gc library atm
What I blast modern gaming, it's not because it's my only outlet of gaming, but because I lament and mourn what gaming has become

nostalgic about garbage

I knew was coming after 80s/90s nostalgia

muh zoomers

Daily reminder that these threads are made by either fags who don't even realize they're zoomers or millenials trying to pretend they weren't the biggest punching bag before le tide pods made everyone realize Gen-Z kids exist and became the next punching bag.

You forgot Dead Space, Final Fantasy 7 and Persona3.

Wrong, most games I play were made before 2010

We've never had an era before where there is nothing EXCEPT nostalgia

A previous generation would flip channels between "Wasn't everything cool twenty years ago?" and "Isn't everything cool right now?"

This may shock you but steam analytics doesn't show playtime on ps2 games
retard

just consume new product and buy newer product when it's there

you sound like literal cattle

lived long enough to see retards praise the prequels dogshit (even for the time) CGI

Just end it all man

I'm a zoomer and I've done a full playthrough of every clan in VtmB and played all of the STALKER games

The oldest games I've played through have been Zelda, Link's Adventure, and Castlevania.

zoomers are trying to force early 2000s nostalgia, but it doesn't really work

Why are normalfags still posting here? Thought le epic hack made you go back to the subreddit.

We simply lost the technology and it's a painful process to gain it back.

We need to import more brown people from the third world

Thats because they don't get it right, just like anything these days that depict another time than the one were living in right now, they are always made with the conscience of now and never try to be genuine

But early 2000's were good and plenty of people are nostalgic about that time.
Internet was still fun and not sanitized
Gaming was going through exciting developments
There were some quality cartoons and shows on TV
People talked shit in online games ans everyone laughed
You were still allowed to bash fags and niggers
The culture was fun and people were way more laid back
Only americans hate early 2000's because muh 9/11 and nobody gives a shit about that besides yearly shitposts

They do, because every generation is filled with LARPers for every medium who go "I was born in the WRONG GENERATION and THING BEING MADE WHEN I WAS SHITTING MY PANTS is good."
You see it for everything, most famously with the comments section on any remotely popular song made before the year 2000 that wasn't feature in JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.
Funniest instance of this type of behavior is with anime, but 99% of the time it's entirely just people looking at instagram or twitter #vibes #mood pic compilations and then they never actually watch the anime (because if they did, they'd realize very little about anime has actually changed in the past 50 years).

The culture was fun and people were way more laid back

I really miss this the most, everyone feels so fucking aggravated now, not to mention that it feels like everyone wants to be in one another's face and annoy simply for the sake of it (or boredom)

But- but MUH PS1 GRAFIXXX

Dune part 2 and the new Avatar movie destroy all of these easily. And I don't even care for Avatar.

This is just typical "everything was better back in my days" behavior.

muh sales = quality

I take it you hold Marvel films as great films?

The most impressive thing about the prequels is that it had practical effects that somehow looked like shitty CGI

Consider that nothing in this room is CGI *except* for the window in the back; that craftsman and artisans worked around the clock to make a set and furniture that were real physical objects that looked exactly like shitty N64 polygons

It's like how there was next to no CGI in Terminator 2; there's a gruesome puppet that looks exactly like Robert Patrick with his skull split open and another that looks like Arnold Schwarzenegger with half his face burnt off. There's next to no CGI in Jurassic Park; they actually built a 40 foot tall robotic styrofoam T-Rex and then used careful editing and shooting it in a rainy night to make it the most authentic thing anyone had ever witnessed.

every generation is filled with LARPers for every medium who go "I was born in the WRONG GENERATION and THING BEING MADE WHEN I WAS SHITTING MY PANTS is good."

That's literally a YouTube meme, so no not every generation says "I was born in le wrong generation"

Yet nobody does

It's the only thing I'm playing.

As a gundam fan, a whole lot about anime has changed in the last 50 years, the most glaring example being the drastically cut runtime of shows nowadays. G-witch was split into two 13 ep "seasons" and was total dogshit that did nothing with its time, and while Gqux has been solid so far its also only going to be a single cour itself. Gone are the days of 50 episode Gundam series, and even getting a 26 episode season like IBO or 00 seems to be going the way of the dodo. I don't disagree with your disdain for #vibes fuckers but there have absolutely been tangible changes over the last 5 damn decades

dude Dune 2 is so amazing

it won the oscar for best special effects for this lmao

I still play Rogue Spear once in a while

so you like the 2000s because you're a mexican zoomer, got it

I just started morrowind for the first time, been playing it the last 3 days straight.

You're a nigger and I don't take your opinions seriously

Better Man was snubbed for the VFX award that year.

Compare the detail of the first few arcs of One Piece with all the modern lazily made arcs.

Remember to always trust the Khajit and their funny potions

Here's what everybody is playing on Steam right now, in May 2025

game from 13 years ago

game from 12 years ago

game from 8 years ago

game from this year

game from 7 years ago

game from 5 years ago

game from last year

game from 8 years ago

game from this year

game from 12 years ago

The most damning part is that two of the three contemporary games are meme/shitpost games

As a gundam fan, a whole lot about anime has changed in the last 50 years, the most glaring example being the drastically cut runtime of shows nowadays.

That was the endpoint of anime.
Most anime that weren't constantly renewed kodomo shows would invariably get cancelled when the toy company folded, or the ratings dropped due to a national catastrophe (see: baseball), so a lot of anime already were far shorter.
The arrival at 1-2 cour anime is just standardizing one aspect that used to throw shows into utter chaos. A good example is Hakugei Densetsu, a really good anime and the staff didn't find out when it would end until about episode 17. It ended at episode 26. Everything from 18-24 was likely already in some form of production and so they just rushed the ending.
The original Gundam itself was a victim of this, getting cancelled several weeks before its set endpoint.

Beyond that, anime really hasn't changed. Maybe the tools used to make it have, but the majority of the techniques outside of MAPPA productions (and specifically One Piece) are ones that can be traced back to the 70s if not the 60s.
If you mean the manga, I don't give a shit. That's just the difference between a 20 something and a 50 something year old man.
If you mean the anime, the first 150 episodes of the One Piece anime just look like the Doremi episode previews. Wouldn't say it's bad I guess, but it's not exactly a stellar production.

what is the iraq war

No, I like the 2000's because I remember how fun and exciting it was to surf the web and find all kinds of shit while signing up for random forums or hopping into chatrooms, kids today will also not understand how comfy it was to sit with the boys late at night in a computer room playing online games or crowding to watch someone play a flash game where a woman gets undressed
That and all the various f2p mmo's and multiplayer browser games that are likely lost media by now

Steam is the only thing people use

Ever thought about RETAIL DISCS and GOG?

Saddam was allied with Israel against Iran, the fuck are you talking about? America wanted to kill Saddam because Iraq was starting to team up with Syria, Libya and Qatar and the US was afraid it would slowly turn into a Arab aligned power bloc.

I could be supplying morrowind's entire illicit trade with the amount of shit i end up giving to ra'vir.

Anime absolutely collapsed after 1995 the way everything else in Japan did
People sleep on the fact that in 1995, Japan was very close to being the #1 wealthiest country on earth, and that being a smaller country overall, the average Japanese income was even higher than America's
This prosperity affected all outputs; anime, movies, cars, electronics

Then, everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked.

Israel was afraid it would slowly turn into a Arab aligned power bloc.

yet nobody does

They do enough that corporations are trying to take down websites dedicated to preservation of videogames because they are afraid that if old gamesare preserved newer releases are less likely to be played.

episode III

lol a random closeup of two eyeballs instead of a video of what the actual film looks like

That didn't really effect anime though. Certainly effected the people making it, but the majority of anime didn't actually change beyond a distinct shift towards VN and LN adaptations to target otaku markets, but that was a more callous attempt to avoid the risk involved in undertaking more specifically pandering OVAs.

They've already realized that. Triple A is funded by 30 year old millenial singles with expensive "battle stations" as they call them.

Israel loved it because it was allied with Saddam as it was Iraqi atheist (baathist) supremacist that mostly were focused on fucking over Iran which was Israel's arch enemy.

Israel literally warned George W Bush against invading Iraq and Israel was the one to point out to the international community that Saddam didn't have any WMDs to ruin the US' international reputation.

bayformers sucks dick dude

They don't make cg like they used to.

Other way around retard. Israel allied itself with Iran against Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War. Saddam was extremely pro-Palestine.

mai best girl

Lmao you're retarded, that or a deceitful jew. Either way fuck off

A war for oil.

You mean the war Israel begged the US not to start because they didn't want to get scudded again? The war that hurt Israel because it got rid of Iran's #1 rival and let them focus on Israel instead?

yet nobody does

my dude i only play games on duckstation and pcsx2

I'll accept your concession on his behalf.

this looks cool

Every generation complains about every other generation for causing their problems. They will complain that the generation before them fucked up the world, and that the generation after them is awful, low attention span, and is causing industries to appeal to this.

It applies to every single generation. Soon Zoomers will be in this position and doing the exact same complaining about gen alpha

Yes, but Pirates of Caribean is insane.

despite only Gen X and Boomers currently being in any position to ruin anything

Kinda crazy to see people sometimes complaining about "millennial writing", and then when you look it up none of it was written by millennials. Something I learned recently, the script of the RE4 remake was written by a guy who was born in the 40s. Wrap your head around that. These people would rather put a 77 year old geriatric in charge of writing than put anyone from gen Y into positions of any authority. Millennials have never had a say in anything, yet people are increasingly blaming everything under the sun on them. Absolute lunacy.

There was definitely a weird curve to CGI.
It was initially so expensive and difficult that it was reserved for the largest blockbusters. They kept putting in more and more effort and more and more money to make it look as good as possible. That is the OP.
However, they eventually found that cheaper CGI did the job and audiences didn't really care. They'd see a movie regardless. So then they began to focus on making more efficient and cheaper CGI. You'll notice in the 2010s that movies genuinely did look worse than they did in the mid to late 2000s (with some exceptions, of course).
However, modern films have vastly superior CGI thanks to advancements in technology and are cheaper and easier to produce. It is kind of the best of both worlds now. Virtually every shot in a major blockbuster has CGI in it and it is not noticeable 99% of the time, but then the 1% happens where it sticks out and looks REALLY bad. One that I remember is from the Black Widow film where her sister is next to an explosion that goes off and it legitimately looks like the effect was unfinished.

pretty much, i turn 27 this year

I think CGI peaked from 2005-2015, so late 2000s early 2010s. There was bad CGI before, during, and after this period but generally the most effort was put in during this period. It was more common in the 2000s but early 2010s had some great looking movies (Pacific Rim in 2013 is my favorite example). I think it was on a downwards trend at this point however so early 2010s it wasn't the norm, but it did still happen. By the late 2010s movies stopped giving a fuck about quality CGI entirely

It's real easy to talk shit about star wars prequel CGI when you're inches away from a monitor watching on upscaled resolutions it was never made for. I watched the reshowing and things like the PS2 Dooku flip that sticks out like a sore thumb watching it at home was near impossible to peg when watching in an actual theater.

you can't play old games on console

Bigass fancy imax theater near me reran pacific rim last year

got sick and couldn't go

I am still mad.

2010+ choice for Transformers

niggers.

nowadays they just outsource to india

Never, they'll always live rent free inside of the minds of every single Anon Babble millennial

Isn't gen Z close to being 30 by now?

I think early zoom zooms are, the current anons in the 30+ generals are considering raising the age to 40.

The fact that you can go and play those old games right now, yet nobody does, shows they aren't better.

When 20% of the market are currently engaged in videogames older than 6+ years you know that your industry is doing something wrong. Anything more than that would be a straight up insult to the literal e-waste they are pumping out on a quarterly basis.

Zoomers weren't even the ones eating tidepods, if was shitllennials mistaking them for colorful 90s candies from their childhood. 90s kids completely missed this and got things backwards.

the current anons in the 30+ generals are considering raising the age to 40.

How pathetic can you be?

Oh no I don't play an instrument, I just listen to music a lot more than I game nowadays. :P

just let DEI in guys

we just need to use the bathroom

Uh, that shows that the industry is doing well. 20% for 6+ year old games? That include World of Warcraft and Minecraft and GTA V? Those are all basically modern with the updates they constant receive. Before life service was a thing, we would have Minecraft 4 or 5 by now which would be identical to what we currently have.

*A war for Israel

Us companies didn't even get most of the oil but it did make a lot in arms manufacturing projects

alright, sign me up!!!

PMCbros making all the mad capital from subpar surplus

It just works

The fact most people don't know about the USS Liberty just goes to show how effective Israeli propaganda is

You mean the war Israel begged the US not to start because they didn't want to get scudded again

No he means the war Benjamin Netanyahu openly advocated for and told the US only great things would come from you disingenuous zionist kike

Zoomers would rather swipe through hours of slop on tiky toker then figure out how to install a emulator

Even Reddit talks about it. Young people hate Israel.

Because they think that jews are white

you probably just found out about it hahaha

Everything has been AI slop for years now, they just dont dare to call it that.
I need to animate water, fire or clouds, do i properly learn how this things interact with ambience and lighting or do i just load up a plugin and run a simulation?

It's because there's no practical/digital mix anymore. Mustafar looks exceptionally good because they got actual volcano eruption footage from Mt. Etna to use across the shots
youtu.be/VgS3pt0yMvs?feature=shared&t=2465

I'm currently playing Thief mods, some Quake, and Tactics Ogre. I have a 5080 and a 360hz OLED monitor.

aren't people still playing fortnite though? and GTAV? Decade old games ong based zoomers keeping the tradition alive

cursive is so ugly man
i find it hilarious how school spent several years teaching it only to completely ditch it by middle school

the younger Zoomers ARE 40. Grown adults.

based retro enjoyer. all that horsepower and refresh rate being used for peak kino, not soulless slop. thief mods alone have more creativity than anything AAA has puked out in the last 5 years.

These aren't the Based PS1 JRPGs that every neckbeard says they SHOULD be playing

Because old JRPGs always are in American English or Japanese, never in other languages.
The 99% of the human population only play videogames with translation to Portuguese, Tamil, Arabic or Kiswahili

I'm literally playing Morrowind and it's 100% better than all the recent slop made for brocoli heads.

the script of the RE4 remake was written by a guy who was born in the 40s. Wrap your head around that.

I wonder when the guy who wrote the original script was born.

One that I remember is from the Black Widow film

Marvel started cheaping out and getting lazy with the CGI after Phase III finished.
Now Disney execs are scratching their heads, unable to figure out how their golden goose died.

I avoid those threads, why TF would I want to be reminded how old I am?
Israeli companies got 0% of the oil and oil revenue.

I'm amazed the Corps was able to find a Marine who could write, much less in cursive.

You mean the same Benjamin Netanyahu who wasn't part of the Israeli government at the time, and wouldn't be in power for another 6 years, you deceitful communist?
I'm talking about the ruling Israeli government at the time, which loudly opposed the invasion of Iraq.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_Realm
So do you want me to break down how power actually works or?

Jokes on you I've known about the USS Liberty for over a decade and I'm glad it's more mainstream info now

Star Wars CGI itself was fantastical, the integration with real actors on a green screen was terrible.
And yes Pirates of the Caribbean to this day was black magic. Wish we still had that kind of talent in this age of advanced technology, alas paying Indians and Chinese peasants is infinitely cheaper.

Ashkenazi Jews aren't semites so they're right they just can't make the next logical >I'm talking about the ruling Israeli government at the time, which loudly opposed the invasion of Iraq.
Israelis saying one thing but wanting another how about that?

General Grievous was wasted on this shit and he shouldn't have gone out to some trainspotting haggisnigger.

What part of "Netanyahu wasn't in power at the time' did you not understand?