Make a 6/10 game

make a 6/10 game

pokefags lose their minds

The absolute state

I think you meant to post a picture of Palworld, OP.

This game has a fun gameplay loop on top of a much better battle system for Pokémon standards. The presentation, story and nearly all boss fights were shit though.

make a 4/10 game

pokefags lose their minds

The absolute state

Dude shut up Palworld might be boring AI slop but it's on PC which makes it AMAZAING and worth my passionate defense >:(

pokemon game has actual gameplay for once instead of smashing A through hallways

pokefags lose their minds

checks out to me

Nobody who praises this game actually played it to completion

chink dev makes an early access open world survival crafting game, but with a pokemon ripoff

Anon Babble loses their minds

Arceus didn’t sell as well as the mainline games. Pokefags still prefer 3/10 games.

They do. I had a friend who was skeptical about SWSH cause of dexit but praised it when he completed it cause he didn't have to grind cause it's so braindead easy in a series that was already easy. Most pokemon players literally drop the games after completing poke league once and that's why the PvE post game keeps evaporating with each new installment.

take some ubislop open world and sprinkle pokemon everywhere.

Yeah, that's more fun than whatever they've been doing since gen 6.

Akshualy Arceus was a good concept. Complete the fucking pokedex and divine pokemon.

Devilish.

Sun/Moon were boring as fuck "talk at you for a million years" games.
Sword/Shield were better. They only talk at you for a hundred years, like they did back in Sinnoh.

Buddy, I'm gonna let you in on something. This is literally an average day for this goddamn board.
Human mind is ever complex and a gamble in the game of life, see? There's like a billion+ people in the world. Just as there's a chance for people to be "sensible", there's a chance for them to be stupid. And apparently it is much easier to be stupid, since we are animals. All we need to do to live is eat and drink water, after all. So you're gonna run into a lot of stupid fucking people. And a place like this, where you can be unfiltered, you're gonna see it a lot. I know I have. So basically what I'm saying is get over it. Call them a dumb nigger and move on. Save your actual criticisms for when it's something that's just objectively wrong. Besides, a 6/10 is a good score for a game, so I dunno why OP is acting like that's bad. His own life is a 1/10, so I dunno who he is to give out scores.

game is shit but it's fun simply because it tries something new.

It kinda feels like pokemon snap but you can move anywhere instead of on-rails. And for some reason the animations are MUCH better than the mainline games even though the graphics suck alot and the map/town design is really fucking lazy. Being able to walk around during battles is also super nice.

Was really hoping Z-A would fix these problems but the game is looking pretty much on par. Maybe worse since at least LA had a nature/historical motif. I'll probably be skipping Z-A but if you didn't play LA then maybe it's worth it to you.

This is literally an average day for this goddamn board.

I know and miss when it wasn't. People come here thinking the free unfiltered speech is reason to hate without repremand but it's dire for actual threads and conversations.
You start a "technology" thread 8 years ago and it's filed with clips and quirks in levels with explanations until bump limit.
Do that today and immediately get called a shill, someone calls the game bad, another posts a bad implementation of RTX and a mod gives you a warning for being off-topic.
The message board conspired to prevent conversations

was under the impression this game was generally liked

It's crazy how they make melee attacks actually hit in PLA but they go back to punching air in SV

Ranged attacks not coming from a specific location on or near the body always annoyed me

blastoise

attack doesn't come from the cannons

It was, but pokemon as a franchise seemingly has a dedicated autistic shitposter for every single game and generation

it's just weird because you have SWSH and BDSP to do that with

The amount of schizos on this site for a specific game, series or company.
How do they not constantly trigger each other.
Unless half of them are the same person.

make a 6/10 game

pokefags lose their minds

The absolute state

Has ideas that isn't just recycling the same 1996 game but progressively worse for the nth time

Controls how you'd expect a modern game to, basic gameplay doesn't feel clunky or annoying

Lots of earthy tones in the artstyle like you'd want to expect from pokemon (besides the smudgy graphics)

It has no shortage of problems, but it felt like they actually gave half a damn, which is practically fucking groundbreaking for this garbage series.
I remain skeptical about PLZA however. Even just the premise of it being entirely localized in a modern day city with all the bright ass playdoh colors tells me they missed half the point. XY literally has a whole plot point about ancient war and you set it in the modern day?

the fact they didn't bring over other wild pokemon joining the battle against you is just cruel. that was one of my favorite things in arceus

SV

Actual gameplay

You didn't actually play it did you?

no RPGs have actual gameplay. not a single one. I don't know why pokemon gets grilled for this specifically.

It's an organised cabal obviously and it's gotten to the point where they randomise their filenames and imagehashes to make it harder to find their posts in the archive

but it's fun simply because it tries something new.

Man it was fun abusing Agile Style Quick Attack. Even funnier that it's a Lopunny sweeping entire teams
Wonder if Z-A will have similar speed dominated combat or not

Pokemon has better RPG mechanics than most. It's always been the presentation that's greatly lacking. If you're gonna have turn-based gameplay, then you have to go all in with the visuals. But what they have is less than acceptable. Pokemon Stadium was like a peek into what 3D pokemon could have looked like. We're 25 years past that and the quality is worse.

Biggest franchise in the world btw.

We're 25 years past that and the quality is worse

not really

Biggest franchise in the world btw.

I'll never understand why people say this. Like do you just want to tell everyone you have low standards or something?

Huh? I'm saying they should improve their games and have a budget bigger than $100. And they can afford it because they are literally the biggest franchise in the world.

NTA but Pokemon is in fact the highest grossing franchise in the world. It's going to be the first to gross 100 billion usd. It's basically worth 1/3 of Disney or more than Mickey Mouse and the MCU combined.

retard

No, what you're saying is that you don't care about the game as a game, you'll only see it as good if a lot of money is spent on it to make it look nice. Which of course means you have low and/or fucked up standards.

literal meme move uses a joke animation

"Noooo I can't take this seriously"

Not being able to read in-between the lines isn't the gotcha you think it is

The fuck are you talking about? Double kick isn't a meme or joke move in any sense

That's... Not what reading between the lines means.

There's no other meaning to that post. You do know what that phrase means, right?

It has 60 power, its sole purpose is to be a shitty early game move that gets replaced asap. So it has a little "bap bap" animation to communicate that it's bad.

I have low standards for wanting better graphics and animation

um alright I guess they can make the gameplay better too. I mostly meant that the formula is fine but yeah there are stuff they can fix with that as well. I think the presentation sorta factors into the gameplay as well a bit. Like really slow battle animations and stuff can ruin the experience.

Like really slow battle animations and stuff can ruin the experience.

You are aware that you praised stadium which had some of the slowest battle animations to date along with the colo games and PBR, right?

That doesn't make it a joke move dumb dumb
Just a starter move you're supposed to use until you get a better one, like most JRPGs

Let me guess, this is also a "meme move"?

No no, anon was clearly bragging about how Pokemon was the biggest media franchise in the world, and was demanding nothing more of it other than to show off.

okay you're right I'm sorry gamefreak pls don't change anything take my money I'm sorry I bow down to your greatness

Well you can call it how you want I guess, the point is it's intentionally programmed to NOT do the physical attack animation twice. The actually good multihit moves do, double kick does not because it's bad.

Okay. So how should they improve the gameplay?

NTA but that's a generic universal move. Games generally have to make consessions like that all the time either by limiting the animations or giving characters that can use it the same proportions and skeletons to make the animations good. That's what makes it a meme to bring up, you can't have both unless you make it an exclusive animation

And of course gen 7 did have the former as well but no one mentions them.
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Gamefreak defenders have entered the chat

alright, I'm done with this thread

Once again people mistake common sense and a sound argument for "defending".

Is he wrong though? Digimon and SMT do that too but you don't see anyone being retarded about those games.
But let me guess, this is where you go

B-but they have money they should hire some pajeets to do that work for them!

Like that couldn't apply to the second largest toy company in the world too.

he actually does use his cannons now, but he didn't in any other 3D game starting from XY

whataboutism

nobody cares about digimon faggot. Besides this isn't a digimon thread. I'm here to discuss pokemon. That is cyclic retarded reasoning where nobody has to get better because you can always point to someone who's worse.

make a 10/10 game

retards hate it

talk shit about pokemon

Nintendo cock warmers bring up palworld for no reason

That's not what whataboutism is you mongoloid dipshit.
Whataboutism is when you try to shift to a completely different point if I had gone

what about Digimon and SMT, they have less monsters so who cares about the animation!

Then it would be whataboutism.
The point here is that there's a clear double standard for something that's the norm for this genre and many others, where pokemon is the only game getting the flak.

Do you understand or are you just going to spew more buzzwords you can't comprehend?

I taught a Smeargle a bunch of weird moves to see how it would use them in Battle Revolution on the Wii. I taught it Giratina's Shadow Force and watching Smeargle run out of a black void like a sperg was really amusing. The people in this thread seem to think that Smeargle should have individual animations for emerging from a shadow dimension.

Pokemon: Unity assets in open world edition

6/10

LMAO

>Biggest franchise in the world btw.

I'll never understand why people say this.

Do you also not understand why people say 2+2=4?

Can they just please add 2 difficulty options "Adult" and "Child"? If you are a child the game has no challenge (like Pokemon games now), if you are an adult the game starts having challenge. This way everyone can enjoy the game and not just 2 year olds.

It literally is the highest grossing media franchise in the world right now. Close to $100 billion in revenue.

0/10 reading capability anon.

I thought whataboutism is the same as double standard but if you're gonna be an autist about it, then fine. Stop bringing up double standards and digimon cuz nobody cares and you're still a loser who has to defend pokemon.

nearly all boss fights were shit

That's because the game is terrible when it comes to non-one-on-one battles, since it seems like the opponent always gets a free attack on you when you defeat one of their pokemon, and the turn order in the corner is useless because the AI almost always uses styles which the turn order doesn't show.

they added a hard mode in black and white 2. what wound up happening is that it made the game easier, because the amount of EXP you get is based on the level difference between you and the opponent, so the higher level enemies just gave you more experience. Though the Indigo Disk DLC for SV was actually a bit more challenging because every battle was a double battle.

fun gameplay loop

it's the same shit as mainline, except the combat is demonstrably shittier and the map is a few empty fields lol. pla is nothing more than a 2/10 tech demo

The amount of people replying to this thinking you were questioning the fact that it's the highest grossing franchise and not the fact that it means absolutely nothing when it comes to development is genuinely worrying.

the only hard battle in arceus was Volo, because he essentially uses 7 pokemon, two of which are giratina. I don't even remember the names of those 3 whores you have to fight several times

I thought whataboutism is the same as double standard

This is exactly why we need to ban third worlders.

You're right anon, it's not like Pokemon is a video game franchise or anything. Why would they want to invest more money and time into the games?

I don't understand what is even the point of this games if you can just grind for 10 hours and rape everyone. Is it so hard to limit the max LVL of you Pokemon by the max LVL of your next trainer?

bw is dogshit barely salvaged by bw2

Coin, Charm and Clover have the easiest names to remember.

SV is better gameplaywise than PLA thought

That's why there are rom hacks that do this, because otherwise there's no reason not to do this. but that isn't exclusive to pokemon, any rpg with levels and experience can be abused this way.

remember when some dude cobbled together this shit in a couple days from seeing the advertisements for Arceus and it looks almost identical?

one of them had only one gengar which just dies to any ground type attack. they weren't engaging at all

The battle system is fucking awful and the "gameplay loop" consists in going into empty fields picking randomly spawning items off the ground or going to an arbitrary place when a pokemon species spawn and doing repetitive shit such as catching the same pokemon 10 times and evolving them to fill pokedex pages.
This game is ass and just proves that most pokefags have 0 standards and probably don't even play games other than pokemon.

It's literally irrelevant. For one thats shared between GF, Creatures, Nintendo and TPC.
Second, just because you have a lot of money doesn't mean you need to spend that money.
Third, the AAA industry as it is right now should tell you that pumping more money into something doesn't necessarily result in a better product, just look at how far Monster Hunter fell with World and Wilds.

it fucking does lmao
give the dude 6 months and he can do something that is 100% better than PLA

Are you telling me that body type A and body type B was not a necessary inclusions?

Ironically enough the new game changed it so instead of just trade pokemon disobeying you if they're overleveled all of them do, but that doesn't really do much it's just slightly annoying. The real point is so little timmy can just streamroll the Elite 4 with his level 80 fire starter or box legendary if the devs of the game cared enough they'll add in another postgame battle facility where everyone is forced level 50/100.

more profit and popularity means they don't have to make better games

I hate how this only seems to apply to videogames. This hobby is a fucking joke. Even people get sick of Marvel movie slop. But pokemon will still get high ratings.

What are you two even trying to say right now?

I hate how this only seems to apply to videogames.

lol.

Even people get sick of Marvel movie slop

The industry in general has been flopping left and right and you're truly delusional if you think Pokemon has shot itself in the foot as many times as capeshit has.

every pokemon thread

Actually what it does is make sure you don't just go catch a level 50 garchomp right away, because you can. You can over level your starter and it will always obey you, you just can't catch something over your current level cap. Sword and shield dealt with this by making it so that you can't even catch high level pokemon in the wild area. In scarlet and violet, they do something different. The game remembers the level you caught something at, and if it's caught level is higher than your current cap, it wont obey you, but if you trade your level 50 garchomp to someone and they trade it back, you'll be able to use it without it disobeying you because the caught level is not stored in the pokemon's stats and gets reset when you trade it.

catch the same pokemon you've already seen for 20 fucking years over and over

only new pokemon is a literal pink landorus and tranny regional forms

horrible battling mechanics

no online

no battle frontier

empty overworld

1 fucking village

origin dialga and palkia look even more retarded

ugly murky gamecube graphics

plass was fucking horrible

I hate how this only seems to apply to videogames

No, retard, this applies to every business ever.

I look like this

I hate how this only seems to apply to videogames.

It doesn't apply to anything because no one said that. The point is that more money doesn't automatically mean a better product, so going

Y SO BAED USE MONAY!?

doesn't mean anything

You could just leave them alone, you know.

That's just how stale the franchise has gotten. Admittedly PLA was the best game they put out since the DS era, and changing out mechanics and interactions works at least justified the mass dex cuts.
Not like it mattered anyway since SV was irredeemable dogwater and somehow did everything worse compared to PLA.

They live rent free in his head.

Masuda isn't reading your shitposts bro.

Lol that's a silly workaround to the open world. Thanks for the explanation that's some interesting mechanics.

he should