It was just a dream

implying I care for the characters

missing the point

play it again when you're at least 10 years more mature

missing the point

It threw away characters to poorly tell a lesson of

ESCAPISM BAD

I dont need your fucking pretentious lessons, you piece of shit game company.

ironically this game is the solution to the AAA bloated budget problem. The 400 million dollar Concord or AC Yasuke model is obviously no longer sustainable. How do we get gamers to buy AAA slop at half the budget? Shill expedition 69 as game of the year, have a bunch of tasteless normies exclaim how they would gladly pay full 100 dollars for it and boom we now have AAA slop at a fraction of the quality and cost, suddenly profitable again. Gamers are the biggest retard consumers. The same people who bought DLC while bitching about it.

All characters from all games are in fake worlds. Characters from any Final Fantasy game or from GTA5 exist as much as the painted Verso does.
You're just mad because you like some characters, but can't grasp the concept of reality. That ‘real world’ where the magic canvas exist may itself exist inside a canvas. And we may as well be living in a painting too, and it changes exactly literally nothing.

the writer and creative director admitted they left how it works purposefully vague so retards like you would lap it up

I pegged it was a fake reality when they called her the Paintress and you saw all the motifs even the beginning guy who painted Gustave and the girl before the expedition.

The only thing I don't get is who the fuck the "Writers" are.

You're mad at people you literally just created in your head, my friend. You say that "Gamers are the biggest retard consumers" but they just bought a good game for a good price. The game is good and big enough that they could have sold it for $60 + $10 for costumes that are unlockable in the game + $20 for the optional content cut from the game.

Explain how what I said is retarded then. Everything is only real in relation to other things. And you can never know there isn't a next layer of reality above yours.

Presumably they utilize Chroma through the written word? Like writing a passage and then manifesting it into reality temporarily?

because there's an actual story in the game where the complete opposite interpretation is valid. this game is just retard bait to get retards to organically drive up engagement. half you retards aren't even being paid

Writers

just a different branch of "artists" in the real world (who may or may not have the ability to create "worlds" as well)
would be a nice premise for a sequel to explore a world of literature

Yeah I was disappointed with the direction it took, turning it into a typical family drama over grief
Still an amazing game, but it didn't quite live up to the hype I felt for it in act 1

The characters were written so well the "It was all a dream" reveal didn't really matter but enhanced the story.

lol

the hype I felt for it in act 1

You literally have the end of everything set up in act 1 in act 2. Everything is there.

doesnt make sense

Yes, and that's the point. You can decide whether made up things can be considered "real". And you did decide, (You) decided that they are real, though you say they aren't. How? Because you literally care enough about characters from a video game, made up characters, enough to argue about this.
You care enough about characters from a game, then why could characters from a game not care about characters from a painting?

the premise of the entire world was too weird, so I already expected some meta twist

filtered

I just mean the mystery in intrigue as I progressed through act 1. The pieces are there, but it wasn't until a little bit through act 2 that I guessed where it was going completely, and when act 3 started I realized I guessed right and was disappointed

Reminds of Danganronpa and how people were mad when it turned out the fictional characters they liked were actually fictional characters.

Paintlets seething at realitychads.

dude let's destroy DR's legacy for the lolz

I'm still fucking pissed 1 and 2 got shat on in favor of the worst cast imaginable in DRv3

2 twist was actually good, V3 twist was shit and Expedition 33 is literally a better version of that.

Act 2 reveal was pretty fucking bad, the ending of the game almost saved it but the damage had already been done by that point

Well, for me it's V3 > 1 > 2, mostly thanks to the ending, but in terms of characters: 1 > 3 > 2.

Cogito ergo sum

HYPOCRITE THAT YOU ARE

How come this game gets praised for not containing any anime non sense but every post that try to spoil it is describing anime nonsense?

Whoops, turns out there isn't another way, we should all just die

Verso is an idiot and his biggest mistake was not saving Gustave.

What if I sided with Verso BECAUSE I wanted to kill everyone in Lumiere, force Alicia to live as a cripple, and shit on Aline?

it's all in the presentation

no boys that look like girls

no KYAAAAAAAAAAHHHHs

no weird camera cuts that show every party member go "UGH"

The game quite literally tells you that the world in the painting is just as real as that outside of it

Counterpoint : if that had any smidge of truth the Dessendre family wouldn't be so assblasted about Verso dying, they can just bring him back, or something equivalent to gestral resurrection exists in the real world.

That part of the letter is addressed to Maelle you dingdong.

i still remember the retardfest that was drv3 ending discussion when it came out and how all the dumb faggots here defended the ending by pretending it was illogical to dislike the metanarrative of prior events possibly being fake because "it's just a video game series it's already fake lmao"

it's just a video game series it's already fake lmao

And the funniest thing is that nobody has ever managed to debunk that and people who couldn't grasp concepts such as "reality" just kept calling others trannies etc.

You're a fucking idiot with negative IQ.

Yup anyone who tries to defend v3 is practically brain dead.

Maelle pease, your people believe we should die but I think you can find a way where that doesn't have to happen

kills Alicia

What did Maelle mean by this?

Maelle

White

Hebe

Lune

Asian/Hapa

Cunt

Sciel

Gypsy

Slut

I feel like there was room for another waifu.

if that had any smidge of truth the Dessendre family wouldn't be so assblasted about Verso dying, they can just bring him back

They don't give a flying fuck about Painted Verso, it's the real Verso's soul that is the problem, that's why they are stuck to that specific canvas and not fucking off to another one.

Which, again, would not be an issue if the real world allowed for them to bring Verso back to life in the real world.
The fact that they can only retreat into his painting to feel any semblance of him still alive proves that the real world and the painting are so different that one is not as real as the other.

you will respect the boundary between real world and not real world in my video game story

lmao

if this pocket universe is real then why don't they revive their dead son

What kind of leap in logic is that?

The whole point of you playing as Gustave in Act I is to appreciate that it is real.

Also it's a fucking videogame. If you're going to let something not being "real" prevent you discussing it seriously you need to find a different hobby.

Wake me up when someone has done an Expedition 60 run of the game (no level ups, all swimsuit)

Where's the leap? The claim was that the painting was just as real as the world outside it. The painting allows for resurrections and reincarnations, why does the world outside of it not allow that? The two worlds are as real as each other aren't they?

The claim was that the painting was just as real as the world outside it

It's a disagreement on what "real" is. Of course, the world outside the painting is cosmologically privileged, if you want to call it that, they operate on a higher dimension of existence. But it doesn't invalidate the lives and struggle or will to live of those inside painted worlds.

real means they have to follow the same rules

Why?

Because the discrepancy is what allows for a segregation of what's real and what isn't. If fake shit is as real as real shit then every single person on this board would be seeing visits from the FBI for lusting over Maelle, a fictional underage girl.

It's called having respect for you creations, your artwork and E33 doesnt have that. Instead it tramples on the characters in the game and it insults the intelligence of the player.

Bro you are playing video games it’s never real

I don't really care that the world is a painting. The really retarded thing is you walk around with a guy who knows everything for 2/3 the game. Every time something is revealed the other characters are mad at him for like 5 minutes because he didn't tell them and then they forget until they realize he is still lying. Insanely stupid plot.

They can't kill the paintress without him, so what else are they supposed to do besides seethe for a bit?

Because the discrepancy is what allows for a segregation of what's real and what isn't

So you aren't real because I can lust after 16 year olds in my country but you can't. Good to know.

The devs could just not add such a stupid party member to the party

You're so fucking stupid. With that logic, you shouldnt criticize a game at all, but you know what? Review sites exist, where you submit your thoughts and feelings on games. This is my review. E33 is dog water for pulling the "OOPIES ITS NOT ACTUALLY REAL XD" bit. Its not clever, its not funny. It ruins the experience and makes me never want to play it again.

ok retard

ETA until Clea finally gets porn made of her?
Asking for myself.

Sure. To you I may as well not exist. But if "le not real things is as real as real things" then you wouldn't be allowed to lust after 16 year olds in your country, now would you? Because some fake ass country has laws against it and fake is as real as real things.

be the change you want to see

No retard you have no logic. It just means

hurr dey sed it isn’t real

Isn’t a valid criticism. Employ your brain and come up with a worthy reason before you yap on Anon Babble

You're absolutely right. Which is sad because you're not real, so your argument is fake.

But you only acknowledge that my argument is fake because you apply my argument of there being a difference between real and fake people.

FUK ALL DAY SHIIIT NIGGA IMA KILL MYSELF

Bravo Verso

apologize to star ocean 3

Yes I acknowledge that you're not real. You don't need to convince me anymore.

I accept your concession.

Only missing two skills for Monoco, the one in the upper right corner and the one just below it. Anyone know what/where I can find these?

Ciel asks Lune does she trust Verson and she says and I quote “I trust he wants to destroy the paintress so our goals are aligned”. What the fuck were they gonna do? Question him about fucking everything when they already knew he was shady?

Alicia already wanted to die by that point because Verso ruined everything by being a faggot.

yeah dude, it's so unrealistic that people would stupidly follow somebody shady, even if they have misgivings. it's especially unbelievable that they would reason themselves into it. totally ridiculous representation of human behavior.

When the lies and manipulation catch up to you

No U

Typical e33 shill has no argument.

Verso doesn't really have anything to do with it. Even if Verso opened and read the letter then gave it to Maelle in the same night that he received it the letter explains fuck all and all Maelle would see of it is the creepy girl that's always around the old man who killed Gustave is going "NO KILL I" like a fucking horrta.

girl named Alicia

goes into a land full of wonders

Oh, I see...

it has inspired a story or two

Anyone know what/where I can find these?

Flying Manor

If the context was different I bet it would be his pleasure.

Maelle already knew something wasn't right with all the visiona she was having.

Either that or the Infinity tower.

It was just a dream

the dreamer chooses to die to preserve the dream world they created

Teenagers killing god.

This is bad.

Teenager IS "god"

"WOW THE WRITING IS SO GOOD!"

The entire human experience is nothing but feelings you absolute fucking mongoloid

Are you guys retarded or what? I'm not saying the characters did anything irrational. I'm saying it was completely fucking idiotic from a story perspective to put someone like this into the party in the first place. Every single story twist revolving around a character who just doesn't say anything is shit writing.

So what did you fags pick?

Yeah but how much would that change things though? She was still out on a quest of revenge against Renoir even after the big pointless reveal that he's Verso's dad.

I think you forget what website you're on. Majority of posters here are socially retarded so games like this fly over their head so in order for them to feel "smart" they bash the game.

I told her the truth why would you lie

ITT "I read a synopsis so I can shit on a video game I'll never play"

[UNPARRYABLE TRUTH GOMMAGE]

villain who deserves everything done to them

Aline
Alicia
Painted Verso

only acted violently to achieve a noble goal or for survival

Renoir
Painted Renoir
Clea

did nothing wrong

Sciel
Lune
Painted Alicia
Painted Clea
Esquie
Julie
Golga

too good for the game

Monoco
Gustave
Simon

appeal to triviality

I decided to side with verso in the end.

The letter mentioned Maelle being related to The Paintress and Renoir/Curator. If that returned her memories she could have fought for the Canvas control before Renoir used his death wave.

You can press CTRL to walk.

She will probably create another world
And there will be another Verso
Maelle is the true villain

maellefags say that the painting people are real and have agency

they also say that Verso shouldn't have the agency to die and should be forced to entertain Melle against his will

Huh.

Vershit is paying his prison time for global genocide. He deserves it.

Verso shouldn't be allowed to kill the others. Maybe you'll understand this one day.

Nobody says that lol
Those that meme about the piano man usually hate both Alicia and Verso and want them and the other Painters to suffer.

That'd come at the cost of letting painted Renoir live though (because they'd be going after Renoir rather than Aline in the monolith) and I just do not see her abiding by that at all.

lol she really did paint papa go home

That'd come at the cost of letting painted Renoir live though

Literally just go after painted Renoir before kicking off Aline, how is he gonna omelette du gommage if Aline is still restricting him?

That wasn't the argument.

So what were Maelle's nightmares early on in Act 1?

Why did Aline not paint a more comprehensible message than just a number for the people of Lumiere on there?

vagueposting
farming aura
ARG

She's an idiot and probably thought they got the message.

Simon is kicking my ass even on easy mode

Everything in the story can be summarised by Aline and Alicia being fucking morons.

Don't 1 shot him.
Only faggots do that.

What is that hair on Maelle? It looks dyed over the white, like Verso's.

not enough space
it would have looked like writing on CDs back in the day and misjudging the letter size

When was Alicia a moron? When she preserved the lives of the people in Lumiere?

Aline and Renoir*

You seem to be confused. Renoir is the one that gommaged Lumiere. Painted Renoir is the one that killed Gustave. Aline isn't holding painted Renoir back in any way.

Name one thing Renoir did wrong.
Besides maybe torturing Simon. That was mean.

This.

like what? hello my little minions please attack this other demigod, the one that is wiping you out, so we might live a little longer
I don't get this argument

FUCK THE CLIMBING CHALLENGE

after like 20 fucking tries, I finally got to the top, and then fell off the edge while talking to the gestrals before getting whatever the fucking reward is. This is BULLSHIT!!!

Aline based Lumiere on her experiences in Paris

it has a disproportionately high amount of Black Africans (Paris did have thousands of them in that time period, but not that many)

the French high society was already very interested in African art and culture in that era, but it only became mainstream after WW1

Aline was a black hipster

woman sending mixed messages and expect you to be clairvoyant

Most realistic thing about the setting.

The game was cut, they didn't have the budget to finish it. It was based on some French book the CEO likes but the story was too complex. Now they have money and can make Clair Obscur Grais Edition and sell the real vision for another $40 and I for one would gladly pay for it.

When was Alicia a moron?

When she trusted the writers, leading to Verso's death.
When she lost her calm entering the painting, leading to taking an extra 16 years before she could be useful.
When she ran towards painted Renoir, leading to Gustave having to try to protect her even though he was hopelessly outmatched instead of the both of them jumping over the cliff to Esquie down below.
When she still went after the paintress after they had gommaged Painted Renoir in spite of Verso saying that they need to kill the paintress first before they can kill him.

Genocide.
Insisting on a second genocide and death of a universe despite her daughters pleas.

For me it's the melodramatic teenager who thinks her life is completely over because she's somewhat disabled

because she's somewhat disabled

Anon, let's not downplay stuff here. She has horrific injuries.

When she lost her calm entering the painting, leading to taking an extra 16 years before she could be useful.

Dude she gets swarmed by Aline's chroma the moment she goes into the canvas. Didn't even have a chance to repaint her throat. She was a severe disadvantage.

The story shifted hard after Act 1. That was probably already made and they used it because this was a day one game pass game, they never thought people would care this much.

She can walk, she has complete agency over her limbs. She has her sight.
Losing her voice sucks, but that's it.

Dude she gets swarmed by Aline's chroma the moment she goes into the canvas. Didn't even have a chance to repaint her throat. She was a severe disadvantage.

What is it with people getting spawncamped in the game? Same shit with Normandy and Painted Renoir

Monoco

If her lungs are scarred then every breath is agony. You can learn to cope, but it doesn't get better.

For me, it's the fact that une vie a taimer doesn't make sense for a battle against Painted Renoir.
I bet they wanted a big battle against Renoir and Aline and couldn't fit it in but already had made the song.

Dude she gets swarmed by Aline's chroma the moment she goes into the canvas.

Yes, and Clea tells her to just stay fucking calm through that, which suggests that keeping your composure plays a huge part in not getting swept up by a paintings chroma.

How is the same shitpost still getting so many replies
This place only has 50 users or something

Woman moment

What level are you anon? Like did you not even do sidequests?

I'm an honest man and would obviously choose Truth, but Verso is not capable of such thing, so it more in character for him to Lie.

pretty sure one of them was verso killing his gf from an older expedition, julie i think?

Wow, you're retarded

face fucked up

mute

half blind

somewhat disabled

Pretty sure she is fucked up a lot anon just one of those things is bad

i beat simon using monoco's break gradient. i put speed on everybody, combo attacks, and fill gradient on attack/crit. i had everybody attack to fill the gradient bar as quickly as possible, then monoco broke him. simon got to attack twice in the entire fight, which i was able to parry/survive. i think he did 30k total damage for the fight. i also had a comb of like powerful on attack, guard on powerful, and something else on guard (or some chain thereof). he didn't get to wipe the party, because he was stunned.

Guessing this must be used for some super op no hit build?

I acknowledge that you're basically a fake person.
You're lower than a hylic.

nope. it reduces max health to 1, so all of the % of health pictos don't work with it. as far as i could tell from looking around online, nobody had found any significant use for it other than increasing difficulty.

Yes. Felt like he was betraying them though.

Yeah I'm sure the girl who has been horribly disfigured and has no will to live and doesnt even know if she could trust her cold sister's words is going to stay calm while being attacked by her mother.

Because he did betray them instead of telling them the truth.
Painted Verso is unbelievably Machiavellian

That’s silly then, know I see some people using death stuff to make your other characters get a ton of buffs so thought it was something like that

I can't do Simon phase 3 yet

If we're operating on the premise that she actually did play with Verso in the portrait then that wouldn't have been her first portrait insertion. She should know how it works already.

oh no, painted verso lied to guard the truth. why didn't painted verso do what kindergarten teachers tell us to do, and always expose our motives so we can be manipulated by others. :^( dude...painted verso should have just been honest so the girls' feelings wouldn't be hurt. :^((((

I oneshot simon
I got the achievement
Therefore I beat him

How would she have known that? You're saying another one of the family members tried to paint over Alicia long before the fire? lol

Can't you use it to setup low health% before a fight by equipping and then unequipping?

oh yeah, i also had the 'fill gradient on gradient attack' skill equipped, which is what allowed me to keep him stunned. otherwise it took an extra turn to attack and fill, which often resulted in monoco being in the wrong order to stun him before he could attack again.

How are you so sure that being awash in chroma isn't a regular part of the insertion process? Your psyche is straight up diving into a world of paint.

When she trusted the writers, leading to Verso's death.

How do you know this?

Because Clea didnt say anything about chroma instantly attack before hand, she was more like oh shit you're suddenly being attacked by mom

every anon ITT would be willing to marry her

that's possible. the game does set health relative to the ratio of current health to max health when equipping health-changing pictos, though, so i wouldn't be surprised if instead of getting 1 health out of x after unequipping you get full health. it's worth trying.

Be honest: did you beat him without lowering the difficulty?

He fucking killed her nigga, betraying his own oath that he'd bring them all back and fix Lumiere

I wouldn’t, way too small and I like a woman that can yap

I don't even know who or what that is.

That`s all true but Clea mentions that Alicia was locked in her room while her and Verso painted this canvas. I feel like her issues go beyond her brother's death.

awww, poor painted people are all gone now because evil painted verso didn't tell the truth. :^(((( he should have lied so the real world governments could form an organization to maintain the canvas in perpetuity and change alicia's diapers for the next 60 years. lying is ALWAYS WRONG

yes? it's just a rhythm game why are people making it out to be harder than it actually is? yeah it will take a few dozen attempts but once you get it "down" you can basically farm him for fun

it's Isshin and Malenia all over again it's not that crazy

Epilogue Alicia tells us that her naivety is what allowed the writes to use her to kill Verso.

k nigga

Just play the piano, bro.

i accept your concession, brainlet

contractures from the burnt healed skin

nerve damage leading to chronic pain and loss of sensation

trouble breathing due to scarred lungs

temperature regulation problems

half blindness, muteness and disfigurement affecting any prospect of a bright future

I think she's fucked.

He’s giving me more trouble than either of them. Of course he can be learned but also doesn’t need to be downplayed how ridiculously punishing he is.

Those fuckers lvled up, otherwise they wouldnt have made it to the paintress, needs to be a dlc or expansion around those guys tho

Talk like a retard, get no real reply.
Go waste someone else's time

Yes. It took a few tries and the phase where his sword does 2 extra swings per swing threw me for a loop, but I did beat him on the same difficulty.

i gommaged that nigga lmao

way too small and I like a woman that can yap

anon what the fuck is wrong with you

mate, people just make things up on the internet, especially retarded losers who suck at video games. simon is harder than sword saint and malenia, and seems to have been well-designed to force you to fuck with pictos and character setup to maximize engagement with the systems.

i am a retard

ok retard

The game could have just skipped straight to chapter 3 really, everything else is just time wasting since none of this is real. Nothing you did matters.
What a shit fucking twist.

I will never play this game, but I've been watching a few parts on youtube. The game looks the same from beginning to end, same colors, almost no change in the environments and always in a serious tone. It looks like a snooze fest, hard pass.

it's unironically about the journey you tard

why did they even make the game at all lol like just go outside and eat dirt lmao