Look at this Rhino

Look at this Rhino.

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SINDRIIIIIIII

I think it looks more like a puma.

METAL BOXES!

Is the Rhino also named the Rhino after the man that rediscovered its STC?

THE CAAWADS
THE FEWLS

Why would anyone take these over a predator?
Games or tabletop.

Yes, John Rhino, one of the boldest rogue traders.

Because the Rhino carries infantry and the predator can't?

PREDATOR HERE, THE ARMORED FIST OF CHAOS

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durrr why would somebody take a personnel carrier over a tank

gee fuckwit i don't know

No, it was named after a actual Rhino.

That Rhino discovered the STC.

Comparing an APC to the best battle tank of the imperial guard.

Stay seething, muhreen

Ah yes, the epitome of imperium engineering. Simple, robust and reliable.

Ah yes, a basic bitch infantry squad, just let me spend more point on those faggots moving an extra 6 inches once so they can kill maybe 4 orks one turn earlier while the rest of the army catches up.
OR I could buy a predator and have everything move up together and actually kill some shit.

Dumb cunts.
You doubley so since you go straight to insults like a fucking child.

farming equipment

Rhinos fit 12 now? Huge buffs for the marines.
Chimerasissies in shambles.

Rhinos fit 12 now? Huge buffs for the marines

Most transports got a small boost to capacity now that you can no longer buy squads in random sizes (well you can use less models but you're still paying for them) so to actually fit squad + leader and one of those support characters that can join units with leaders you need 12 capacity. This trend is all throughout the game.

See pic - though spiky space elves don't have any of those smaller support characters so they only need one additional capacity.

The Falcon chassis is the most aesthetic base tank in the entirety of 40k and you can't prove me wrong.

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Looks like some fucking Vanu shit from Planetside.

Don't mind me I'm just dropping a 20 warriors blob + Orikan (4++ saves to everyone) + Imotekh (to torrent overwatch and use his ability to mortal wound your entire army next turn) + cryptothralls (4+ FNP to Orikan so precision just bounces off him) in your deployment zone on turn 1 with infinite move fly

The Falcon model is older than Planetside.
I kinda wish I was kidding, the current model hasn't really changed in over 20 years.

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wulfen

tacticus

phobos

gravis

centurion

what the fuck is that
there's only SPACE MARINES and TERMINATORS, like god intended

It's from the original pre-Imperial designation of RH1-N0.

A rhino can transport 10 plagie marines who do about 5x as much damage as a predator :)

wulfen have existed since 3rd edition.

wulfen

Space wolf unit

tacticus

phobos

gravis

centurion

Primaris armour pattens

the current model hasn't really changed in over 20 years.

You're underselling it, the base Falcon has remained literally untouched since it released all the way back in 1997 - there's a very strong chance that it's going to make 30 years old before it gets replaced.

Why spurn what's perfect? Yet they still had to "re-imagine" the perfectly good space marines into pr*maris shit.

Picture related, a real space marine.

i'm a 4th edition baby and i never touched space wolves

imperiumchuds be like

dem STCs be sacred un shieet and I'll use them even doe age of technology humans be heretical and reject mah emprah

[laughs in capitol imperialis]

GW's wittle baby aedeptus aestartes can't get overshadowed by the chad imperial guard so they had to make them a tank that's bigger and tougher than the baneblade so their sperm sucking fans don't get mad

wew

Innovation and advancement! That's the Imperium way of the modern world!

not canon

enters a dick measuring contest

loses

starts insisting dick measuring contests aren't cool anyway

In game? Because the pathfinding sucks balls and a vehicle can dump 3 squads at once without something like the heavy bolter shit happening. It also takes less vehicle cap so it’s effectively costing you one dreadnought, which you can recruit and orbital drop once it gets blown up anyway.

not canon

Bitch it had a model and rules.

not a single 40gay game has a fun to use bolter.
Or plasma rifle, while I'm on the subject.

I'm not complaining too much, the Eldar tanks have aged wonderfully.
It's funny to see Primaris now that Eldar got a full Aspect refresh that's basically 1:1 with a few extra options, with no lore fuckery at all.

Darktide’s plasma gun is fun.
The bolter can also be satisfying if you get the right veteran build, but sucks if you don’t.

Why does the Bradley exist when we have the Abrams

base kit is old enough to drink

GW itself is proving you right.

fun to use bolter.

Fire Warrior.

Does that mean on the war scarred hellscape that is 40k Earth there's actual Rhinos still alive?

cant wait for DoW4 to be announced later this week and it be primarislop trash

or a DoW1 remake and its primarislop trash

Why does 40K XCOM not exist yet? Does GW just think it'd encroach too much on their plastic sales if they made a digital version of tabletop?

NOOOOOOO MY LARGE ENHANCED SUPERHUMANS ARE LARGER AND MORE ENHANCED TO ABSOLUTELY ZERO GAMEPLAY DIFFERENCE! THIS GAME IS RUINED!

Owlcat's Rogue Trader plays like discount XCOM

Daemonhunters?

Yeah, and the Mechanicus game exists too, but I want full-on muhreens, tanks, guard, knights, xenos, daemons, etc. with huge battles like TT.
I guess 'xcom' isn't really an apt comparison, frankly I just want digital TT.

I don't care what anyone says, the War Walker is still perfect in my eyes, I hope it never gets refreshed.

Does GW just think it'd encroach too much on their plastic sales if they made a digital version of tabletop?

Legitimately yes.

GW announces an update to the War Walker

Brief moment of people wondering what they changed

They're just putting two of them in one box now

Made me chuckle.

They probably got exported to a different planet during humanities golden age.

Why does 40K XCOM not exist yet?

It's been existing well before you were born bro. It's called Chaos Gate.

How do i get better at painting models if i use brushes exclusively?

Smaller brushes.

It's funny to see Primaris now that Eldar got a full Aspect refresh that's basically 1:1 with a few extra options, with no lore fuckery at all.

I'm genuinely thinking of selling my SM army and starting fresh with either Eldar, orks or CSM. I got a bit of each already. Nu-space marines are so lame.

Post models

Why does 40K XCOM not exist yet?

Mechanicus (and its announced sequel)
Battlesector
Daemonhunters
Rogue Trader
Underhive Wars

Depends, do you mean this week's rules or next weeks's?

bwuh?

Not mine but I got about 1500 points of CSM gathering dust in here somewhere. They started off as Alpha Legion, but I couldn't make them look good so I re-did them as Word Bearers, which looked even worse (I never could get the kind of red I wanted) so I conceded and went with the easiest possible legion which is Chaos Ultramarines (aka Black Legion), so picture somewhat related.

I need to paint my Hawks.

Here's another (not mine) that I used as reference picture to find out how certain colors work together.

MAIM KILL BURN
MAIM KILL BURN

Should have gone Iron Warriors

prime everything black

dry brush everything

ruin all your brushes

the more ruined they are, the better they are for dry-brushing

feel your IQ go lower and lower with every stroke of the brush

do the trim

call it a day

I had fun doing it way back. I did not have fun correcting mistakes because turns out you can't really re-dry-brush to cover the trim you messed up or the hazard stripes you tried and failed to do

BREAK THEIR BACKS

Damn, I didn't even consider that. Iron Warriors ARE kinda based...

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE
LET THE GALAXY BURN

DoW2 was kino even though it was bit of a departure from DoW1.

The Falcon got an excellent face-lift courtesy of Forge World but sadly it's been OOP for ages.

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They're neat when you're learning to paint since your base layer is pretty easy to do and they teach you to be careful with your details because you can't really fix your mistakes.
Vehicles are annoying since you have to figure other ways to get a uniform coat of metallic paint (protip : don't use Vallejo silver)

Here's my Genestealer Cult on a crusade against my friends SoB.

You now remember the Iron Warriors having access to a Basilisk.

Skulls event on Thursday

Another year of begging and rumors for Total War 40k, DOW4, or literally any kind of big budget xenos game

Another year of nothing happening

Going to be a long week.

Is it even really a tank or is it more of a weapons platform. Those vents and glass canopies can't be good for a tank even with magic eldar technology

the mon keigh doesn't get it

Typical.

Eldar tanks aren't designed to stop and shoot, anon. They fire and do drop-offs and pickups on the move.

Feels like the area you'd have to clean up around the trim would be a relatively minor part of the drybrush effect so it wouldn't be too bad if it just ends up a solid colour. If the drybrush left it pretty much black that's easy, but even if it left a metallic gradient right up to the edge of the trim the correction still probably wouldn't be noticeable to anyone else.

I swear I accidentally started doing like, an inferior pseudo drybrushing my first time painting space marines leadbelcher, my first time painting anything. Like I used a fairly large, flat rectangular brush going for regular basecoat coverage, but that kind of brush has the effect of not really getting down into the recesses so it tends to leave black panel lines and stuff if you've primed black.

Why did they trade box tanks for gay hover vehicles?

Because they wanted to overhaul Space marine tanks to actually look like something used by a elite fighting force and not shitty boxes sold by GW before they knew how to make vehicles.

give it a lick

For tabletop, there were a variety of reasons. It was dirt cheap (usually) and provided a body to protect the more important contents inside. It's was also really fat and wide so you could body block entire sections of the board with it to prevent assault avenues or troll the enemy by ramming enemies with it to force them out of position. Note it was ram, not charge, the difference was that the vehicle goes full speed at a target and stays there compared to the new charge rules where you can fail and stay put. It was also good even if it died because unless it was a total destruction, vehicles kept the model on the board.

There were a lot of reasons to take Rhinos.

Because British tanks look ugly as fuck. Also it’s getting hard to sell the game as a sci fi setting

The local Games Workshop employee convinced me to buy the Emperor's Children combat patrol box.

I read that they're metal and rape Space Marines, salesman told me I should add dicks and booba whenever I could.

that's just a maus

Minor lore fuckery. Modern GW writers are still shit like most modern writers, so had to change what wraithbone was. Before it was a physical manifestation of pure psychic energy made into a malleable source. Now it's a mixture of plastics and some metals, meaning this super rare material that only the Eldar knew how to use because it requires the person using it to be psychic...can basically be done by anyone if they examine it hard enough.

They sucked the mysticism right out of it for some lame ass explanation no one really wanted in the first place.

only one kind of main armament

doesn't have a million additional pintle and sponson mounted peashooters

not even floaty anti-grav nonsense

No way. That's a manlet ride.

Look at this Rhino (floating) (PRIMARIS MARINES ONLY)

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"Hover" tank

Can't even fly

Sure as hell can't Deep Strike

So uncivilized.

I hate how the Impulsor almost looks good until you see how it looks from the back.

What units are missing from warhammer in your opinion?

Jeep and light tank for guard

Technical and prop plane for genestealer cults

Actually, that's E-100.

How come there wasn't any story about Old Marines rebelling and turning traitor because they got phased out by the larger, smarter, beefier Primaris Marines?

It would have been kino and a mini-Heresy event for the Imperium.

Jeep and light tank for guard

you mean the tauros and taurox

I think there were some chapters not accepting Primaris (at first), mainly BA.
But I'm a xenosfag, so I could be wrong because I care little for marines.

The Chaos specific cults like World Eaters, Emperor Children, etc are missing so many units right now it's not even funny. No bikes, jump packs, or custom dreadnoughts.

Download open x-com and the wh40k mod? It's the exact thing you are asking for.

because the entire point of primaris marines is to phase out old marines
that's why most old marine models dont have rules anymore
legends rules do not count and you know it

The BA and quite a few others were at first refusing to accept them because it felt like another insult shoved onto them by Guilliman who has a penchant for being a beauracratic asshole. The Sons of Sanguinius felt it undermined what it meant to even be a Blood Angel if these new recruits didn't have their primarchs gene seed, warts and all. They'd just be Ultramarines in red armor.

Will Dawn of War 4 add the Spess Mehreen super heavy grav tank?

Because most marine chapters aren't that petty.

I don't think GW wants primaris to be seen as a bad thing

Of all the design choices for Primaris vehicles it's the fucking heavy stubbers that trigger my autism the most. For decades and decades stubbers were explicitly described as being antiquated and primitive technology even by Imperial standards, and for some completely mystifying reason somebody decided that the shiny new Primaris vehicles supposed to represent genuine technological advancement should be covered in... a gun that even the Imperial Guard consider to be a bargain-basement weapon.

It's so fucking stupid it hurts.

Most major marine chapters also suffered catastrophic losses before Primaris marines got introduced

You forget that the heavy stubber also appears on a lot of imperial knight variants as well. Almost like it's an afterthought of a weapon choice. It usually is, I mostly saw people swap it out for a meltagun. IE a gun that has a chance of actually killing something.

Second Founding was 75% Ultramarines

Primaris were made in Mars using tithe gene seed stock from these same legions

Wrong, wraithbone is still warp energy the bonesingers sing into existence and shape into physical structures, gw just added the unnecessary information that when that warp energy becomes physical material it is transmute into mundane composite materials whose exact properties depend on what the wraithbone structure being shaped is supposed to be.
So non eldar still can't make wraithbone, nor do the Eldar need to mine materials to craft it. It is still sung into existence, gw just explained what it exactly is to greater details, though arguably to the detriment of the mystique of the Eldar

but anon these are improved stubbers that's why they're called ironhail stubbers see they have 1 AP over normal stubbers
or they did in 9th I haven't been paying any attention to 10th

Space Marines have the most potent tank in the lore. At least during the Heresy. A Falchion Super-Heavy is the Guard Shadowsword equivalent but better in everyway. Reaver and to an extent Warlord Titans struggle to fire what the Falchion does.

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I'd forgotten the new specifics, but I do know that there's a lot to 40k, and other fictional settings now that I think about it, that don't need explanation and work better if left mysterious. All this shit doesn't really need to be explained so thoroughly, it feels like it's the opposite of creative when you just give everything mundane explanations or some science mumbo jumbo shit that might as well just be magic anyway.

Yeah, modern gw writers don't know well enough to leave shit alone and leave something up to being a mystery

I would argue than in practice a Warhound equipped with dual twin turbolasers is putting out more effective firepower than the Falchion's twin volcano cannon.

Because old Marines can fairly easily become Primaris Marines. That was the whole point; the only major change is that there's an extra implant and a wargear upgrade.
Most of the Chapters who were iffy about Primaris quickly realized that there wasn't actually much changing.

That's what happens when lore books are a business, you have to write shit so it sells, and in order to sell you have to link it to known characters/events, so you end up in a Star Wars EU situation where every single little thing about the movies is explained and expanded to death and the mystery of the setting dies to satisfy lore autists who buy those books.

More effective maybe, but not more potent. Titans have more potent weapons like Warlord Conversion Beamers which are explicitly more powerful than Volcano Cannons when fully charged.

Because old Marines can fairly easily become Primaris Marines.

When Primaris was first released the lore was that the surgery to turn a regular Marine into a Primaris was exceptionally dangerous and the vast majority of those who undergo it die, but that was quietly dropped after the flood of existing characters getting Primaris re-releases made it increasingly silly.

but think of all the MONEY

LET THE STARS FALL
LET THE PEAS BOIL

Yeah I think early one it was supposed to be around a 40% success rate, but over time it's now closer to 80%. The 'justification' of it was that as the procedure became more widespread the Chapters tailored it for themselves to increase the odds.
Meanwhile everyone knows it's just because GW wouldn't dare kill off a named Marine character they could sell a model for.

It looks so dumb. So, so dumb. I'm not even an "old = good" grognard but there's nothing about the primaris designs that's good. Nothing that says "yeah, that fits these badass space gothic warriors."

That's always been the case for space marines though. All of their vehicles look awful and they always have.

i see it and i hate it.

we joked but couldn't imagine how much sillier it would get

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all these lame in-universe justifications for the existence of primaris just so they could sell new and improved toys when people would have bought their new toys anyway without the primaris bullshit

they made the lore worse for no reason

money is a reason

It's quite funny to me that the flying heavy weapon guys are so absolutely awful that GW seems to be trying to quietly squat them, currently they are only sold as part of an obscure army bundle and it wouldn't surprise me if they vanish completely if and when that bundle is discontinued.

Was this the beginning of the end? For me it was the turning point. A fucking baby carrier...

I can't bring myself to hate that thing because I can see the concept they were going for and that concept is really cool, they just... completely failed at executing it. Really, really badly.

People pretend to like 40K lore? Lmao.

Primaris only exists because GW's horribly out of touch executives at the time thought that they would have to make the new Space Marines completely different to 'force' players who already had an army to effectively buy a whole new one, despite ample evidence that Space Marine players absolutely would have rebought their entire armies for shiny new truescale Marines and vehicles.

Goddamn that guy had a good voice for crazed yelling

the only real problem with it is the silly open cockpit combined with not even wearing a fucking helmet
it must be dire times when we look back and think the baby carrier isn't so bad compared to what we get now

ALL they had to do is say "we're doing truescale Marines now" and call it a day.
Nobody is complaining about the new Death Guard and Emperor's Children models over this.

I admit, I kinda forgot about tauros, but I was thinking of something lighter
As for taurox, that's an APC/IMv. I was thinking of something closer to interwar light tanks

I honestly think its bad in concept. They have dreadnoughts. Why would they need even a better designed version of this. Why would that be where resources should go.

Its gotten even worse since the introduction of knights to the lore. Yeah we've got mechs that are a similar enough size to this thing, that nestle the pilot very safely inside an inner compartment where they use actual sane controls. But the Dreadknight is really doing something important for us that neither the knights nor the dreadnoughts are.

And then, if this is bizzarely going to exist, why would it be a grey knight only thing. Its not some super special superior type of technology, its not way better than somewhat similar technology in wider use. If its not useful the grey knights shouldn't be using it, if it is useful a lot more people should be using it, because the underlying technology clearly isn't anything insane such that its exclusivity can be put down to rarity and scarcity.

I have a similar problem with centurions, beyond even the bullshit of the Imperium getting any new technology like its nothing. What the fuck is that halfway point doing that neither the regular terminators nor the dreadnoughts are doing, such that you absolutely need to complicate logistics and organizational structure by also having these instead of just more of those 2.

There actually is a fairly definitive reason, but we're not ready for that talk yet.

1: Marine players are psychotic. Chaos space marines are comparatively sane. 2: Death Guard and Emperor's children players have enough to complain about already.

They seemed to have learned their lesson with HH.

We're not ready because honestly, nobody cares. They could literally just retcon all Primaris as just being a armor upgrade and nothing would practically change.

The actual difference that matters is that the army essentially functions like Eldar now. With specialists units that only use one kind of weapon rather than the all round teams that could be anything of past editions. The conversation people are not ready to have is that this is a universally positive change.

The baby carrier is endearingly stupid and fits perfectly in 40k
Primaris at its worse is so soulless and sterile that it straight up looks out of place in the setting

The real point behind it isn't army function or being 'bigger' Marines, it's brand impact and recognition.
Firstborn Marines primarily utilized helmets that had the Darth Vader grille. Darth Vader is a villain. Therefore, kids and their parents will associate Marines with being villains due to subconcious factors of how the grille is menacing.
This is a problem for GW, bevause GW wants Marines to be the shining noble heroes of the setting who are valiant and glorious. GW doesn't want the Imperial factions to outwardly appear evil or villainous now, because that can negatively impact sales. It's why the "Imperium are the good guys!" shitters have grown over time; because GW shoves the bad aspects of the Imperium into lesser BL titles while implicitly waving about how the Imperium are heroes. It's why the Eldar and Tau are rarely utilized for narratives now; they're not as expressly evil or villainous looking to promote the Imperium by association.
Primaris exist to turn Marines from brutal space knights who are occasionally heroic due to circumstances into tacticool super soldier heroes.

Anything related to the Lost and Damned.
Anything related to traitor legions that aren't worshipping Chaos
Exodites in general
Arlequins in general

I love it when cool edgy stuff has all the edge and cool gradually shaved off.

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is the warhammer streaming service worth getting for a month to watch everything

No, most of the shows are pretty bad, and the good ones usually turn up online anyway.

I really liked the Night Lords Books. Any equivalents for like the World Eaters or any of the less cool(Iron Warriors) chaos legions

HH is run by Forge World/Specialist Games Team/whatever they call themselves now, they seem to have a lot more freedom to do what they want compared to 40k's design studio. They're the ones that pushed to bring back WHFB and then decided to throw the formerly-sacred law of 'no model no rules' straight out the window with pretty much every army book having multiple units you have to kitbash yourself.

Actual Chaos Knights and not Knights but with a mouth. Give me a knight with weird tentacles or one that's bent around and walking around like Zapa
Orks with creatures that aren't squigs. If we can have Kriegs with their weird horses, we can have Orks riding mutated megaboars or something like that.

Now imagine them getting into an even bigger mech...

It's somehow better than the paragon suits.

Betrayer was alright if you like HH and Lords of Silence is 40k Death Guard

BLOOD
HAHAHA
BLOOOOOD

I hate using CSM models for Iron Warriors, Night Lords, etc. because they just end up looking like Black Legion with a different paint scheme

Battlesector

Daemonhunters

Are those fun?

I felt battlesector really sucked. It's just not at all interesting as a tactics game and I absolutely despise tactics games where enemy reinforcements just show up whenever and wherever the hell they feel like it.
Daemonhunters is pretty fun but (keep in mind I played around release and didn't play any of the DLCs and such) the map and enemy variety went down big time near the end, the bosses were awful mechanically and it has the mechanicus thing where the strongest tool you have in the game is a zero AP cost servo skull that deals guaranteed damage. Gets also quite easy.

Battlesector's an odd one where it looks pretty good but plays very awkwardly. Like it's half finished.

Battlesector

it has very positive reviews on steam and daemonhunters was mid at least on launch it was i dont know about know.

You are overthinking it. The reason they changed the helmet is because it looks like Darth Vader. Anything else is secondary.

I'll admit im biased. Im not that fond of MK8 helmets. I don't hate them, but I find them as bland as mark 10 with an added element of looking tryhard. But the change in helmet is mostly positive for me.

Primaris exist to turn Marines from brutal space knights

Everything wrong with 40k Marine lores comes from this assumption. No, Marines aren't all black templars. They can also be vampires. Vikings. Mongols. Or anything else. This is part of the reason why 4-7th edition was such a wasteland of bad ideas involving marines. Primaris are often bland, but from a hobby perspective they are a fantastic basis. I'll take them over any ugly old marine kit released during the dark age anyday.

a 40k game that is half finished?! say it aint so.

*40k marine lore

If all Eldar disappeared tomorrow, what demographic would be the most affected?

Some of the porn artists would briefly be sad before moving over to Tau.

Look at THIS Rhino!

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Cool rhino, anon.

The year is ~40 000

Humanity has just re-discovered the blueprints the one of if not THE most advanced APC ever known...

The M113!

Wait till they managed to find that one computer with plans for the Bradley. Xenos's days will be numbered

Thank you, please do not bully him.

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Have some corn terminators

So I can get my fucking berserkers and kharn closer to the enemy faster

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Now I understand why it can take Primaris.

The glow to the eyes and the plasma coils is a nice touch. That particular style of terminator, whether Heretic or Loyalist, has always been my favorite. All the other patterns just don't look as good.

Hmmm I wonder what the new Primaris vehicles look like, surely they are just as cool as the old stuff

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This is fine *peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep*

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"Brother, enemies on our right!"

""WHAT?""

What do we think about the Saturnine shit being real?

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The Dread looks fine.
The Terminators look fucking retarded.

can no longer buy squads in random sizes

I haven't played since like 5th edition and every time I hear of a rule change I become more convinced that was the right decision for me.

Lets just say that every time GW tries to "modernize" the rules and reduce the bloat...they end up adding even more shit that slows the game down in entirely new ways. A fuckton of keywords, sometimes that have literally nothing of note relating to them, are still fairly common. Stratagems were a big one and they took a lot of the uniqueness of armies and made them once per turn or even once per game super powers.

it's a mess.

Yeah I was reading about strategems one day and it just made me sad.

Shoulda have just "borrowing" warthog from halo, it just werk.

In games, they're faster than tanks, great for dumping squads across the map in the early game, they're not relevant once you have the Orbital Relay though, then you can just dump dreadnoughts from orbit.

try to make Malum Caedo in SM2

can only sort of make it work

Damn it.

Orbital Relay

DoW or Gladius? Because you can do that in both and it's equally obnoxious (or hilarious) when you do it.

Surely he will show up in SM3

DoW, haven't played Gladius myself

I like it quite a bit, it's about as close as you're going to get to playing 40k that's like tabletop...but without the shit balancing and the hundreds of dollars on plastic army men. SM operate as a 1 city faction but have some of the best infantry in the game and can deliver entire armies of terminators on your door step if they find you. The game is cool overall, but it's definitely more wargame than traditional 4X game.

Post models

They are called toys.

1 Corinthians 13:11 KJV
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

have 2 tactical marine squads /chaos marines loaded with heavy bolters

pack them in a rhino

unpack them, so they set up their weapons, then pack them back in

move near enemy and unpack them

marines instantly start shooting with heavy bolters without having to spend time setting it up

enemy jumps on them

you pack them back in instantly, move a bit back and unpack them again

kite them until the rhino is dead, which pretty much lasts forever unless they have strong anti-vehicle

DoW micro is fun

My willingness to buy it just never quite seems to line up with the sales, but it's otherwise interested me for years. I'll get it eventually, until then I have Dawn of War with the UA mod so I can crank up the Dreanoughts per second.

Gladius

Are those turn based games any good?

Gladius is basically just a Civ clone except diplomacy is eschewed for combat.

Dreadnoughts are a really good mid tier mech unit, you can spam the fuck out of them too if you get the ore for it. As for the turn based video games? I'd say Gladius is a good 4X wargame, Mechanicus is difficult upfront but starts to peter out once you get your techpriests decked out, and Chaos Gate feels a little too much like an XCOM mod than a wholly separate game. If you liked XCOM you'll probably like that. I didn't care for it as much.

including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up

I love Necrons and am building the combat patrol right now but good lord all of their vehicles look so stupid. The doomstalker and reanimator are like the only good ones since they look like WotW walkers

If he had a helmet on and they picked a better pose this would look way better

facing nids in close combat with assault marines

okay.jpg

they are all dual wielding pistols

retarded looking but ballin

been a while since i've stopped by /40kg/ but here's my speedboss with his loyal krew

Is this achievable natty?

What music are they listening to?

Everyone I have returned AS WELL. I'm back to help with the ... with the Crusade. Yes, the big one. I have come back... thank you no need to stand up. Yes well I'm back and if anyone wants me I can fight too. I can fight Angron or someone else I don't know ... [is this thing on?!] Luther can you come over here and fix the mic.... Luther? Oh, I forgot he's dead. No .... no I'm FINE. Everything is FINE! Let GO of me, I know where I'm supposed to...

Where's your Eldar wife, Lion?

Not even the Emperor can cure male pattern baldness

Can Votann be salvaged?

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Which tank was the one retconned in to have existed since 30k? The one Wokies point to when trying to justify Femstodes?

Watch it, shitlord.

What's that one in the middle? Kill Team? Actually looks interesting.

UA adding in 8 variants of the Baneblade

you can run them all at the same time

They're critically lame like everything in nu40k

Whotann?

Baneblade was originally a light pattern tank design from the DAoT where they run entire battlions full of them

Spice Marines will never be the big dicks so long as the past still exists to briefly mog them. Thunder Warriors were the true apex before the Big E turned his back on them.

Leman Russ (tank) > Leman Russ (dickhead)

>Baneblade was originally a light pattern tank design from the DAoT

Not this shit again

Chimeras were said have the kind of engine that would run on nearly anything with tweaks

even the shittiest tier pitch pulled from a feudal world

make an entire Mad Max/Cannonball Run style vidya that has you ripping across the plains throwing all manner of combustible material into your discount Mr Fusion

Leman Russ in a Leman Russ being a dickhead.

Didnt Emperors children literally just get a new codex in may?

Yes, which makes his post all the more unfortunate.

Sad, even Jag has a few.

They're cool but retards can't see it. Their main issue is that they lack depth to their model roster. They need some more centerpiece options since the land fortress is just a big moon buggy. Having some big salvage mechs would help, and something else to lean into the whole AI ancestors thing they have going on.

I personally would like some more psyker stuff for them to because the Grimnyr are cool but I doubt they'll go that route. They'd be a really easy faction to make a game for too, being a salve dorf going into space hulks or landing planetside on missions to recover useful tech, getting into fights with monsters and squabbling over salvage with Admech would be kino

Personally I think a substantial part of the problem is the focus on competitive play and a ruleset that attempts to explicitly cover literally every single interaction possible, rules in older editions were written under the assumption that both players were big boys who are capable of using common sense to figure things out and navigate unclear interactions by communicating with their opponent.

The brass one? It's from AoS lol

Cool shit

As far as my Epic games with my friends and brother go, it is still is 3rd edition.

Is there a point to Space Marine pilots/drivers?

Why not attach a Techpriest/Servitor instead?

Weird that he hasn't reunited with Girlyman yet

this is the edition i first played and remember the most to this day.

He tried but it goes to voxmail.

Miko

making me feel old bruv

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Techmarines (spess mehreen engineers trained on Mars by the Admech) pilot their more advanced vehicles like aircraft, also maintaining and repairing them, while Servitors are basically just autopilots; they can't be trusted to make advanced maneuvers or maintain the vehicle by themselves.
Also, it means that if the vehicle is totaled without killing the crew, the driver can still contribute in a fight because he's an actual spess mehreen too.

I'm not too well versed in Eldar lore, but an Autarch has walked all of the aspect paths, correct? Could you have an Autarch game and use all of the Aspect warrior weapons and tactics?

I still think a squad-based XCOM-like game about being a Ork Warboss would be a good game idea. Where you start from crawling out of the ground and beating up lads to show everyone who the biggest and meanest is and by the end you are a real warboss and are stomping and swiping all manner of gubbins and gribblies.

Look at this Rhino. Actually don't, it's a dogshit unit.

play arma with ace

never remove earplugs, ever

still get the EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Could you have an Autarch game

No, simply from the standpoint that any aeldari game would immediately fail.

Thoughts on canonically black Space Wolves? Wokehammer enthusiasts call you a tourist if you don't agree.

Third person loota shoota or bust

Niggers shouldn't exist in Warhammer but I also hate Space Wolves

I hate Space Wolves.

just let me spend more point on those faggots moving an extra 6 inches once so they can kill maybe 4 orks one turn earlier

Yea man, the game is only 5 turns, and pretty decided by 3 or 4.

They have existed since 5th ed, they live in the artic of fenris.

Who fucking cares paint them whatever colour you want.

You use the transport to safely transport your squad onto the objective.
Y'know, the point of a transport.

Ironically real APCs are death traps. M113, Bradley, BTRs, BMPs. They rarely if ever actually move into contact, just ferry the infantry until the shooting starts.
A can full of men explodin is a bigger loss than one with only its crew.

I read the soviets preferred riding on their BTRs in Afghanistan because you were guaranteed shredded meat inside, out you might get a chance to hop off.

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Sorry but the people on r/Grimdank need to dank on the "chuds" of warhammer. The Imperium is a loving space, hatred for other humans has no place here!

Are the Imperium the good guys?

In the real world that is absolutely correct, but in the context of the game, 80~ish points for a Rhino to give you T9 and several more wounds is absolutely worth it to get your MEQ or other squads onto objectives quicker.

not without a lot of work
all of their nulore reads like its trying to translate the most basic aspects of their old lore while being embarrassed of everything silly and characterful about the old lore and trying to paint over it with tame forgettable vague motes of something they've told themselves they'll figure out along the way later
as it is they're too gay and sterile to leave an impression past "oh yeah squats are back sorta" or when they were briefly the most busted pieces of shit on the tabletop which is only about on par with any new release

Space Marine 2 horde mode when

Only when they murder Tau and Eldar children

40k

good guys

Anon I...

What's even the point of Rhinos in the tabletop. Every time it's used your opponent is going to focus all firepower on it

SupComm unit

Bro that thing's basically a small Ordinatus
It probably has the same height as a knight or scout titan

Ah, I see you remember fish of fury. Dark days. I'm still mentally stuck in 4th/5th ed, anything past dark crusade scares and confuses me. Luv me guardsmen, me basilisks, me Scott McNeill.

Ironically I think Ork transports are the safest, as they had that rule that even if the vehicle got shot up most the passengers just jumped out safely.

Come to think of it, I wish SM2 had given us a land raider sequence or something.

Focus all fire power on the rhino

Squad members being transported only has a 1/6 chance of being slain

Rest of the army continues to move unscathed

Only 80 points + dead models slain in a game played between 1500 and 2000 pts.

A Rhino with a bunch of muhreens in it is hardly the most priority target, so if the enemy is shooting it, it means not shooting at much more dangerous units and vehicles you also field.

Yeah, and the DLC for Gladius is kind of egregious since you can't just get everything for one faction, there's a few that have one unit for a bunch of factions. That said, I love the game, and it's how I played Civ anyways so they're pretty interchangeable for me.

Fish of fury

Don't remind me, Tau have no right to complain about balance at all, same with Eldar.

Land Raiders are the real fire magnet. It's basically pissing points away to let your marines move up for one turn.
You're always goin to have something more valuable than a rhino to shoot at.

No, the good guys are the Necrons. Everyone else is a jumped up squatter trying to steal their land

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Tau.

stuck in 4th/5th ed

God damn did I love my Blood Angels back when rage automatically moved your units. I ran all Death Company, put my army on the table, and never made a single decision the whole game. Just rolled dice and watched plastic dudes beat the shit out of each other. Good times.

What is the state of the tabletop game in 2025? Is it over? Is it good?

You can use them to get your world eater units in melee faster, their shooting is very likely going to focus on stopping angron from turning the front line into tomato soup anyway

It’s better than anything after 6th edition.

Melta in video games: Shotgun, anti-armour fuck you

Melta in current tabletop: Short range damage dealer, very hard to pierece armour

Melta in 2nd edition: Hell on earth

It's more... "balanced" I guess (DG at a 60% win rate) but it sacrifices a shit ton of flavour to do so. You can't make your own tyranid bioforms anymore!

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trusting the necrontyr the second time around

DO YOU HEAR THE VOICES TOO

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They're not that bad. They're cheap and slightly outdamage the UEF's counterpart.

Who is getting a refresh next?

Angron is shit in 10th. I see most lists without him now after the new codex. You're better off with Forgefiends and KLoS

Anons I trust you love the new Femstodes right? Don't want any tourist chuds in our warhammer thread right?

new Femstodes

You mean that one character in that Warhammer+ show?

clits the size of ripe tangerines

10th is a joke
the slippery slope of trying to "cut down the fat" that started with 8th seems to have no end in sight and has gone way past what was necessary and horseshoed around into being complicated in retarded ways again but this time in ways that aren't interesting

tfw clitstodes

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new

What are you talking about?

YOU'RE ONLY SUPPOSED TO CUT THE BLOODY BALLS OFF

Maybe I judged Gdubs too harshly.

Hopefully Dark Eldar for more coven units.

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You're telling me its millenia in the future and we are still using the M113?!?!
That's so true.

THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN FEMSOTDES SINCE THE FIRST TEN THOUSAND CHUDS. Go back to HorusGalaxy you BIGOTS. REEE

still maining the 50. cal and M1911 as stub guns

Don't fix what ain't broke desu

Is that a tank or a hovercraft?

Calling a 50 cal a STUBBER.

There are no "good guys" in the setting, there are only good guys who exist in spite of all the shittiness. Sometimes you'll get a space marine honoring a guardsman's courage or something to that effect, but that doesn't mean there are good factions as a whole.

I mean, I guess the Lamenters are pretty good all around despite their god awful luck, but they don't really count because they exist so Black Library writers can force you to watch them figuratively kick a puppy over and over.

nooo why does my woman genetically engineered to be a brick shithouse murder machine not look like a 90lb anime schoolgirl reeeeeee

they never did anymore OVAs based on the kino that was planetary invasions

Just like every spess based 4X that came after MoO2. A feature that almost feels like ancient technology at this point for how few devs manage to actually implement it into their vidya.

the redditor seethes but the answer has always been the imperium

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squat them and then unsquat while ripping off Planetfall

Hot.

APCs can work they are just so fucking slow and can not keep up with modern convoys and they keep getting cut from any RnD. But they do just enough to keep around even if its at the detriment of everyone else having to stop their convoy and wait 10 minutes for the APC to catch up

Example being the Pentagon just the axing AMPV

The issue is no one makes new engines or parts or even knows how thanks to papers being thrown to the shredder thinking it will never be a problem in the future cause le hecking technology moves so fast bro! there is less and less parts available each year. And then the administration wonders why soldiers have to use shit like pic related.

That old or new testament? Because Jesus said the jew book doesn't matter anymore.

Always been there, since before the legions.

The complaints were about female custodes suddenly becoming canon in a tweet. Well after leaked info from the lorebook.

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AdMech finds a fully functioning STC based on a design known only as the Toyotus Hiluxus

[Space GLA theme intensifies]

The reddit meltdown made the 40k meme sub more liberal and made a right wing sub split off, so femstodes ruined even more than that.

GSC got to that one first

I read the soviets preferred riding on their BTRs in Afghanistan because you were guaranteed shredded meat inside

That's mostly because Soviet derived infantry transports have near universal shitty dismount ergonomics (usually a combo of making them light weight and low profile. Occasionally from having engines in the rear). Ironically and quite by accident Chimera's are a bit less shit in that regard than real life Soviet vehicles that inspired them on account of being Xbox huge.

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qrd on female custodians? i never payed attention to gay imperial lore because i'm a nid player and I just want to eat the universe

I still listen to realm of chaos to this day.

It's a classic. Shame about Bolt Thrower getting fucked by the label tho.

Is this the USSR autistic obsession with making everything low profile because they thought the enemy might shoot over the top of them if they were flat enough?

Custodes were from the original warlords' sons on Terra when the Emperor conquered it. I could accept if the alchemists of the Imperial palace made females later, but the retcon is there were always girls.

Apparently there were always female custodes despite the fact that old lore specified that custodes candidates were always drawn from the first born sons of terra's noble families. For some deranged reason, they can't just admit that it's a retcon despite the fact that sweeping retcons is a regular monday for this game.

WOOOOORLD
EAAATAAAAA

the timing in the opening riff for through the eye of terror still fucks with me, it sounds wrong

Not to mention the other scene where Kircheis and Reinhardo murk a bunch of FPA tanks with ice missiles and misdirection. Not far off from the method that Yang ends up employing to murk his own coup back home. The only other game that tried to push the invasions part even further was Imperium Galactica 2. You had a mix of city builder, real time with pause void combat and ground defense/invasions. With power scaling forts, planetary guns to assist the fleets in orbit alongside tracked and hover tanks to point and click on the ground like a knockoff CnC. With the horrible pathfinding to boot. Games only end up doing one or the other and simply simulating or outright avoiding it with the same old exterminatus style genie bottle opening.

It's like lookin at Rowboat trooning out.
The BMD, the access hatch is between the engines behind the turret, on the roof. It..yeah.
BMP-1s had a half-circle of PG-9V warheads underneath it for easy fuck you and the crew cookoff.
AF wanted ten more billion dollars, you have to keep using the stryker.
But we did approve another set of completley different mraps with no parts interoperability and another stack of PMCS manuals because your motor pool didn't look full enough of junk.

I wish suppression worked in 40k.
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Sad Relic went full retard.

troons and faggots inserting themselves where they don't belong as usual

Femstode

I could have somewhat accepted it if the argument was that someone found some new hidden secret alchemical vault in the Emp's dungeon lab on Terra and, like the creation of Primaris , was a new development. However their idea to suggest that the most overpowered humans in the setting aside from Big E or the Primarchs, who live for tens of thousands of years being functionally immortal, who collect thousands of names for their great deeds etc... were just like half female since the beginning? That nobody bothered to notice massive women towering over Space Marines hanging around Terra in giant golden armor? Nobody ever said

Wow, those blood games were pretty good last year. Athena Parhelion really did a great job, I thought she was going to win it until Phallus Maximus got her at the last moment

or noticed that anyone in the armory, or the mess hall somehow ignored all the women walking around, and all their tactical successes were scrubbed from the archives etc

I hope they smother the idea of Femstodes in its crib because they decided to go about it in the most stupid possible way I can't ever trust their judgment on such a thing.

Sad Relic went full retard.

Did the Skulls event not show anything off in regards to the supposed demaster for DoW?

Skulls is on Thursday. All rumors and speculation for now.

Going to include a custodes summary for anyone who don't know what they are in 40k

Custodes are The Emperor's personal Bodyguard, Advisors, and direct diplomats

Each one is a work of genetic excellence.

More Super Human then even Space Marines

Not mass producable like Space Marines.

He's had them since the Unification Wars, before the Great Crusade.

Never explicitly said they're 100% male like Space Marines

But otherwise heavily, heavily documented to be male only.

Fast Forward to about a year ago.

Game and Lore book for Custodes is about to come out.

Shit gets leaked before that (very common)

Bunch of lore blerbs about "she" doing this and "she" doing that.

One that drove people crazy was one of them about to port a super nuke inside the Imperial Palace

"lmao its fine its just a take on the Custodes war gaming and defense training"

Nothing official yet until officially released.

Someone asks the Warhammer Twitter account about it

"Since the time mentioned above, female custodes have always existed"

Bam, massive canon retcon via a tweet. Couldn't even bother to do something slightly more reasonable since custodes being male wasn't a 100%. They've been there since the very beginning. You're a crazy bigot if you believe otherwise.

Just think of it this way. They will introduce women as every single part of every single faction eventually.

Those two missing legions? They were all-female and they are baaaaack.

Uhhh >ALL custodians begin their lives as the infant sons of the noble houses of terra
How is this not explicitly saying they're 100% male?

They just need to admit it's a retcon.

My favorite part is that it actually makes Big E EVEN MORE nonsensical and hypocritical than before since it had him betray his own belief that it should be impossible for his superhuman projects to replace regular humanity, hence dudes only since having chicks risks the creating of true-breeding superman freakshows that will destroy mankind.

Oh and I forgot to mention one more thing that was very funny for fumbling Custodes lore.

Offical Setting Lore book released half a year ago

Part on custodes

Mentions them as only guys again.

Someone tweets the author about it.

"Oh, oops. Gdubs didn't tell us LMAO."

Pretty sure custodes are all sterile, or so fucked in the head that sex is a completely alien concept for them

I think he means like there's no explicit lore about them being deliberately all male for some reason. Like how the sisters of battle were an in universe loophole to get around the ban on the Ecclesiarchy having any "men at arms"

Space Marines can't be female. This is 100%.

This is never said about Custodes, just that everything so far points that they're male-only.

The change was worth it for this joke alone. Now if only they had actual femstodes models so I could give them Tzeencth color schemes.

That picture's always a funny one, consdiering it's completely wrong.

This anon covered it. As I said , seems the most stupid possible way to go about it. There's no way to explain it in a way that's consistent with the rest of the lore. All they had to do was make it a new development.

If they do this, they'lll be no legitimate way they could justify how the whole thing was scrubbed from the records. There are some potentially interesting stories in that Legion 2 and 11 (I think)'s Primarchs were women, but they'd have to account for

Big E worries that instead of geneseed there were actual female, reproduction capable marines. Even just having a couple of Lady Primarchs having children would be a major fucking issue if their kids were basically stronger than an average Marine, biologically. A whole fucking Legion of female marines would be a massive issue, even if they weren't Primarch grade.

One or both of the Lady Primarchs were spirited away by Chaos to be used to breed a new generation of superweapon. We see what Chaos marines do trying to get stable-ish geneseed to reproduce, now imagine what they'd do to get ahold of a Lady Primarch who could either be corrupted to chaos and/or just be used for discover how to create female marines capable of natural birth and chaos eugenics projects

Things went so fucking horrible that these lady primarchs basically died or turned into a giant tubeworm thing that has to be kept beneath lock and key; Emp decides to stick to dudes, he doesn't need that bullshit etc

There are interesting stories to tell but nobody will want to do that because it isn't girlboss-y.

Are we sure this is Tzeentch and not Slaanesh? Because I'm down bad for her.

God Russian equipment sucks. Good to know they are dying in Ukraine with these old shitboxes.

Depends on the storyteller.

top: imperial guard players
bottom: ork players

The Clowns killed some of the attendants and priests until the Custodes showed up and massacred all but one of them.
That lone Harlequin got a glimpse of the Emperor's psychic emanations and promptly shit herself when she realizrd he was stronger than all of the Eldar gods at their peak combined, and he was holding back all four Chaos Gods at once by himself.

As reddit leftists have told me, the procedure for making a custodes is completely different than making a Space Marine. Ergo it somehow can overcome the inherent weaknesses of the female form to make them into just as strong as males, somehow.

Pretty much. Granted lower vehicle profiles can reduce hit probabilities. It just doesn't have as big of an impact once you have more advanced fire control systems (as opposed to the more simplistic stuff used in WW2).

The BMD, the access hatch is between the engines behind the turret, on the roof. It..yeah.

The scary thing is the BMD and BMP-3 still isn't as bad as the BTR-60. Warhammer has some silly transport designs, but I don't think they've ever used something inspired by real life Soviet silly designs.

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Cold war soviet surplus meant to go through the fulda gap, most of it ill-mainted for decades.
IIRC the BMP 1 to 3 series, their rear doors are also reserve fuel tanks, it's why they bulge out like that.
Autocannon is nasty on the 2 though, and Konkurs were a bitch.

Name of that setting lore book?

Warhammer 40,000 The Ultimate Guide

A contact of mine's father was in the motor-rifles of Poland in the cold war. Apart from the BTRs being a nightmare to get in and out, it was an open secret their officer would've been liquidated in active war out of russian paranoia.

Also while not an APC, peak has to be the original BRDM-2. The only way to get in and out were the roof hatches in front of the turret because the mini wheels blocked any side hatch and the engine was in the rear. Under fire, you were just dead.

Which book was this from?

Is that a jojo reference?

Eldar have pussies right? Could I fuck a big titty one? Is that possible?

Was one of the War of the Beast books

Harlequins jump out of the Webway gate in the Imperial Palace, begin attacking civilians

Custodes appear

Harlequins start saying they're actually there as peaceful messengers (as they continue to attack civilians and the Custodes)

Custodes wipe them out

The shadowseer has her vision of the Emperor as the rest of the eldar get butchered, then gets captured and tortured by the Inquisition

They reproduce sexually, the lore even goes out of its way to point out that they have to fuck a lot over multiple sessions so enough dna is deposited for conception to occur

They're basically david bowie with elf ears and they shit crystals.
Years and years ago Anon Babble had a meltdown because someone modelled an IG squad about to gangrape one with her tits out.

Eldar consider humans to be vermin and get physically ill at the mere thought of even touching one.

Most of the sequences involving the void suits and boarding axes was peak cinema. Makes you wonder what the early days of space combat were like when they were still employing ballistic weapons and fusion technology wasn't advanced enough to make hovercrafts out of them. Just a bunch of madlads tethering in from all sides with plasma cutters and LMGs.

Predators are cheap weapon platforms
the rhino is a cheaper wall you can hide your guys in and behind.
see old rhino wedge formations, and just using an APC
bro, a sqaud.
A squad that in older editions could be rocking special and combi weapons.
could charge into melee from (edition dependant)
i ran it as a khornate party buss

The Knights are my favorite faction.

Schizo cyborg chuunibyo nobles using bootleg Golden Thrones to pilot mech suits haunted by the digitized souls of the previous pilots

Technology so old it predates the DAoT, medieval worlds have the maintenance instructions memetically coded into their traditions

You could, but from the Eldar's perspective, it would be like beastiality. Humans are basically unevolved creatures to them. No chance of conception either, cause of their bullshit super-delicate triple helix dna. Getting one to want to fuck you would be like trying to move a mountain. You'd have better luck with the Dark Eldar.

Gavin is SPEEHS?

Sideways Asian pusy that may or may not produce quartz and lapis lazuli when aroused.

Elite Department of Faction has bigger things than the Faction

Duh?

I always thought the action in this anime was pretty well animated, unfortunately its a very very small amount of the 110 episodes.

Getting one to want

huh?

It's been a couple editions, are my bug boys good yet?

Okay so I'll be the bad guy. Tie her down, have my way with her, OOOK OOOOK.

No chance of conception either, cause of their bullshit super-delicate triple helix dna

No it's possible, but the result, if you could call it that, is a horrific sillborn mutant creature. Nastase once existed back in the day, but he was retconned to death.

Meta tiers switches every few months. The Cultists are on the lower tier currently, I think.

I wish they did an OVA based on the pirate wars. Those designs are legit and their flagship being a massive red block with an eagle battering ram was rad as fuck.

Also, there's a logh dump in Anon Babble, i posted what I had.

Cheers for the heads up breh.

As great as GSC is, I prefer to run pure nommers. I heard that they got some good shit at the end of 9th or 10th, and synapse became a chain-web-thing?

not great

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I wish this russian prick had a gallery of all his art. I know leftist warhammer hate him inherently which is funny.

There is zero mention of even conception being possible in contemporary lore

Knights were a mistake

Admitting it to be a retcon would literally not make a difference

Agreed.

They killed custodes too though. The whole thing is stupid regardless, the war of the beast books were overall nonsense

Iserlohn originally was just bare metal like the death star, the anime added the hydrometal.
Also, the novel goes into the fact the suit are uncomfortable to wear and overheat after a time, it's why they're only put on during boarding or ground offensives on no-atmos planets. You cook yourself to death, iirc.

METAL BAWKSES

Nigger toy is a very broad spectrum. Cars are toys. Bikes are toys. Dolls are toys. Models are toys. Guns are toys.
stop being stupid

This faggot came to Anon Babble.org/v/ to quote scripture. Embarrassing.

Look at this Caladius. It's shit.

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Why not cut off the gross xeno nobs on the forehead and then just deal with it?

genestealers are proud of their mutations

And they'll be proud when I fucking shoot them in the skull then.

time and a place for evangelizing, dude. you don't just brute force this shit. be smarter about it.

grim, but not unusual

we heard you were enjoying SM2

shame if something happened to that

GW tries to make a retcon for female custodes

Sisters of Silence are literally right there begging for expansion of their units

REEEEEEEE

I'm simply built different

There was a good week after I beat Boltgun that I spent learning about tabletop 40k and kill team and my lasting impression is that shit is too expensive and I don't have any desire to paint things. The Tau seem cool though. Necrons too. Tyranids mite b cool. Everything else sucks.

You could try out Kill Team. Good way to scratch the itch and a much better game than normal 40k.

Nids are cool right up to the point where you have to paint 80 termagants.

fur russ and da alfatha!! òwó

m8 there's a huge gallery of his on sadpanda.

I want more Hive Fleet Tiamet lore.

Sorry, his name is Jaquan and he is black because something something Fenris has volcanoes.

taking plague marines in any size but 7

You disgust me.

Not everyone has your anal circumference anon.

it was a lesson learned from ww2.

You basically avoided heroin, good job bud.
Stick to vidya games, if you REALLy want to try the tabletop, you can play it online using TTS mods.

t. ended up sending all my warhams overseas to friends to split between them

like 3-4k worth of stuff

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Dorktide's bolter fuckin rapes armored enemies, sounds godly, and has great animations. Only really hampered by its slow reload.

What's the chance of finding a sexy woman in an Underhive?

It's because Fenris is a former DAoT theme resort planet where you would go and pretend to be what people that know nothing about vikings think vikings are. Then warpstorms trapped all the tourists on the planet for thousands of years, and the park rules became their culture.

No it's possible, but the result, if you could call it that, is a horrific sillborn mutant creature.

Never heard of it. What's the sauce? Anyway, trying to make a Human-Eldar offspring sounds like something some radical Inquisitor/Magos Biologis could try doing and it could be an interesting story.

Necromunda has an underhive gang that is 100 percent women.

....pretty women?

I remember a long time ago someone drew some humanoid xenos who looked like your bog standard aniem elf woman but had a 2nd vagina on her forehead and two space marines were raping her.

If you go off the art, yes, if you go off the models, no(GW's female sculpts have never been attractive).

Old joke that tau's forehead slits were fuckable. There was a drawfag that drew a lot of stuff like that, including a retarded tau who fucked her sister.
Old old times.

New but it's from the Pauline epistles so basically the original subversive psyop

Got any art examples?

Illiyan Nastase was a hybrid, it's been a hot minute since I read the white dwarf issue but I'm fairly sure I recall some mention that he was a one in a billion shot to exist and not be fucked up. Obviously though, he's not canon anymore and the very idea of human-eldar interbreeding was retconned to be impossible outright.

The modern Illiyanne Nastase is a normal Eldar as of present.

I bought a combat patrol to see about getting into tabletop, and it confirmed that is wildly expensive. Standard tabletop, that is. Kill Team is actually both a better game and much cheaper, as you can play with one box of dudes which is like $50 or so. You don't need to own the terrain and the rules are free online

Hope you like big hair, musclegirls, or a combination of the two.

I'm usually an insanely slow, meticulous painter but I cranked out my first Celestial Lion as a test model yesterday.

Tigurius sweating like a motherfucker
Lofn hiding in a craftworld

Lofn

Who the fuck is that

Look it up

You know, sometimes Anon Babble is alright

sisters of silence wont get unit expansions as custodes players dont play them because they're closeted homosexuals who want to suck henry cavill's dick
they exist just to fill out points or to sit on an objective at the back

30k has the right idea by giving them a full army list with tons of units, they just need models for said units

That looks bigger than a D cup. Good enough, Give underhive wife.

Here's an early WIP Armiger from a while back
I recently moved and haven't unboxed my models yet.

During the Horus Heresy, Malcador keeps a cloned Eldar that has been modified with human DNA. He tells it all the fucked up shit he does until it kills itself and he clones a new one.

Fuck man, you're like when someone asked me what a VHS was.
I didn't want to get old.

In Dawn of War, if you're compstomping (playing vs. AI), there's no real reason. If you're playing against a competent human opponent, your game likely won't even progress to T4. Rhinos are available on T2, and you can put TWO Tactical Marines squads in it. Now you can zip around the battlefield and destroy enemy Listening Posts, crapping on their economy, and if they don't have tech advantage they're screwed.

But it gets better. Embarking and disembarking are instant, so if the enemy is trying to tie your shooty Marines in melee, you just put them in a Rhino, drive back and disembark. What's even better (and more absurd) is that normally Marines with Heavy Bolters and Missile Launchers need to stand still for like a second to "set up" their heavy weapons. But if they were "set up" when they entered Rhino, they can shoot instantly on disembarking. This is really powerful, as you can imagine.

I do know what a VHS is, so it's not that bad

Why are people so focused on aeldari? They seem like the shittiest xenos in the setting.

They're space elves

Finished this the other day. Getting back into painting and trying to cleave through the grey tide, how I do?

One of the OG factions of 40k and space elves are cool.
Look at the cover of the 2nd ed codex and tell me this isn't cool.

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It isn't cool, it looks like a gay pride parade.

Because they're fucking cool, that's why.

If you don't like oldschool Eldar designs, you don't like Warhammer. Fact!!!

Consistent layers and okay mixing; it could do with a wash to delinate the panels a bit more, or even a gundam marker. Recommend you touch up the chips on the exhaust area and on the boots. Otherwise p good anon

They really didn't fuck around with the art back then

They look like shitty Sentai knockoffs. They're even color coded.

God, I miss Blanche every day

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to add to what others have said they also have the dubious honor of generally being a very powerful army because of how the rules typically favor the design philosophy of aspect warriors in one way or the other
the -4 to hit they could get in 8th was kind of funny too

Custodes

Its crazy how fast I lost interest for that faction after they started with the retcons. You just know that some greedy evil (((investor))) called the mup and demanded Female Space Marines, and they compromised with this instead.

There is something special about this halfway between punk, gothic and heavy metal that screams 40k to me.
Don't get me wrong, I love shit like the Black Templar art in 3rd edition, but nothing to me beats this.

the robes are a nice contrast to the blocky metal SMs

If you had any interest in Custodes in the first place you had shit taste. They deserved the embarassment of that retcon.

We know for a fact Taldeer won WA, but got gangbanged by Blood Ravens in DC.

its gotten pretty dire but these are the times we live in
art for the big three tabletop hobbies has generally gotten shittified to fit modern sensibilities

They don’t make SOVL like that anymore.

They make Disney tier slop these days.

goblin has a WOODEN BANNER and a horned helmet

They really are just Fantasy Orcs with guns here.

You're fuckin crazy if you don't think these boys look cool.
Also it's Warhammer. They're whatever color you want them to be.

If you had any interest in Custodes in the first place you had shit taste.

[Henry didn't like that]

FAITHFUL
ENLIGHTENED
AMBITIOUS

BRETHREN

And he was YELLING yelling into that mic

same guy btw

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lion is the gay primarch, gayer than fulgrim

When your chapter is so secretive, one half goes traitor and the other half doesn't even know

Blood Ravens are a Dark Angels successor and I can't be convinced otherwise.

Well yeah, that's how 40,000 happened. GW looked at their existing Warhammer IP and said what if this, but in space?

The Rock is named after a Blue Oyster bar that is just down the road from GW HQ

YES! YES!! YOU WILL NEED A TANK FOR ME!

No one is gayer than Fulgrim, Fulgrim would never allow anyone to out fabulous him.

most of their space battle behaved like 2d naval warfare, they only took advantage of void tactics like three times
also, the fortress dick measuring contest was kino
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Are blood ravens still dubious canon or are they a real chapter?

They've been full on canon since the 00s anon. Geedubs didn't waste any time canonising them.

You can buy their heraldry in SM2 for the multiplayer.

Brothers, I don't want this non Anon Babble general 40k thread to end........

Before DoW, they were one of the little blurb chapters mentioned and given a color scheme but that was about it. They appear as one of the many other codex compliant chapters in the 4th Ed SM codex. Interestingly, that was the codex (and edition) where most armies got ridiculous amounts of customization for both units and the army as a whole. Suggested special rules for Blood Ravens was universal infiltrate and counter attack. I think there was also one that let you assault out of a rhino, but my memory is hazy, I do know it was back when you had to pay per model for frag and krak grenades.

I just noticed they have a portrait of..Merkatz? On the wall at 0:21

They were in SM1 near the end, and in a few white dorfs.
I think Gabe got a model.

They're OG but they got fucked hard by the general trends of the settings. Lore generation and cool shit for your faction is almost entirely based on

Black Library authors actually liking a faction

Having actually cool ideas about how a faction should operate

The authorship to actually execute their ideas.

That doesn't exist for Eldar. Their books fucking sucked and they only appear in lore to get their asses kicked and then scream "I FORESAW THIS, MON'KEIGH." or to hand off some deus ex machina to a character a writer actually likes.

Necrons are just Tomb Kings in Space but at least they're interestingly written in a way that plays into their longevity and nostalgia for their Golden Age, and the methodology for the insane bullshit they can do, in conjunction with what can sabotage it is a lot better executed than Elf Space Magic.

Might as well he was a good dude despite being a two time turncoat.

I used chatgpt to come up my homebrew chapter

I wish this was wrong about the Eldar. They really do just show up in recent novels to say something useless and get their asses kicked still.

"I FORESAW THIS, MON'KEIGH."

This is literally just "I was pretending to be retarded"

He was still alive at this point though, in fact he was in the room at the time to give info at Geiersberg.
Also he didn't want to be in the Lippstadt Alliance.

Doesn't exist for half the official space marine chapters either, despite SMs and spiky SMs accounting for 60 percent of their sales. Fucking ultras and space yiffs have more named characters than the rest of the chapters combined.

worse they got pigeon holed into being the nonbinary gender garbage faction

Can a Chaplain kill a battle brother if they deem him to be corrupted by daemons or chaos?

fulgrim is at the peak of literal competitive homosexuality, he's ranked

I choose to believe that entire lore blurb was metaphorical, and that tranny eldar do not physically exist.

It doesn't help that a lot of the imperial factions, Space Marines especially, have been pushing in on their gimmick as an army. Specialized infantry with more general purpose vehicles and a penchant for high damage but low survivability models. Shit, they don't even get to be the best psyker faction anymore since Tsons do that as well and don't suffer from toilet paper protection on Taco night.

The problem with Eldar is that their functionality seems built for small scale infiltration stuff and then they're slapped in a setting where the focus is giant fuck off wars with 90% casualty rates on all sides (but hopefully nothing actually important broke) but for the Eldar a large amount of Eldar dying is in itself a disaster.

Narratively it's too highly geared towards being built to fail and it makes them look dumb a lot of the time.

If it's not Merkatz it could be Steiermark as he was one of the few competent admirals on the Imperial side before Reinhard took the helm. But then he predates the Iserlohn itself by about 40 or so years. It shouldn't be one of the garrison commanders either since they had a nasty habit of firing on their own companion fleets when things got desperate.

Probably better written than the nu-Marines.

why did they make female custodes but not female emperor's children?
gw are such cowards

They are, but sometimes it's hard to tell since they steal every other chapters prized treasures

Someone, new spez muhreen thread...

To be fair, that sort of thing applies just as much, if not more to the Space Marines except they're the poster boys so no one wants to say it. Each marine represents decades worth of training and an incredible amount of resources for armor and weaponry yet they're thrown straight into the thick of it in huge numbers as if they're just normal troops despite only existing is chapters of 1,000. A real life equivalent to them would be special forces but they basically never seen the front line of battle and certainly aren't manning tanks and piloting fighters.

Yeah, but it's AFTEr the fpa redecorates the control room, takes all the gold plate off and removes the eagle to replace it with the FPA symbol.
Maybe it was just artist error. IIRC Yang and Arle Heinessen's portraits go up there later.

Here's the Tau I finished up. Currently not painting anything 40k so Ive been painting dwarfs for warhammer the old world and the kharadron overlords in AOS. Honestly, I suck at the game and it's been hard to enjoy it even after painting my army, but I've felt far more accomplished and have a lot more fun painting than playing.

Consider going into dioramas and focusin purely on the modelling, it's a valid option.
Your sept kinda has the inverse atreides look.

My Psychophage. Is a Screamer Killer worth it?

i don't care how bad the t2 tanks are i like them they're cool as fuck