Why aren't there more games coming out of Germany...

why aren't there more games coming out of Germany? feels like there's a new game every week from Poland and Sweden but not them

we only like autism simulators and point & click games. and that gollum game killed daedalic so we're fucked on the second one.

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wait daedalic did the fucking gollum game
was zur hölle

There are a bunch coming but they're held up by the Digitalunterhaltungstechnikvalidationsbehörde in Unterallersau.

^^

I suppose it is because Germany is heavily industrialized. You can make a substantially better living by working in other industries. For example, designers work in the automobile industry and programmers work for SAP.

I am German, and there is zero chance that I would ever consider working in the vidya industry.

Enshrouded?
Anno 117?

And a chin chong nip nong to you, Fraulein

are you even allowed to have a sexy white female character in a German piece of entertainment media?

Germany ist not as woke as Britain or the US yet.
But we did start gendering which is cringe as fuck, but thankfully it's dying out.

threy make games for the Commodore Amiga and still think its 1993

Germans aren't people and they can't create art.

Germans are giga woke but they try to pay all their wokies to contain them in "academia" or public TV nobody watches.
Meanwhile the rest of the world just lets their woke retards go wild in corporate, media, video games and everything else.

Your inferiority complex is showing.

Ya gutt idea Hans, are ve making ze Froklit operator simulator, ze shipyard crane simulator or ze road constructzion simulator?

based Anon Babblebro
fuck poolacks

Aren't the Gothic games german?

Germans are actually quite conservative, the problem is that that the largest conservative party in the country keeps on screwing their own votes over and is consistently moving further to the left.

Only the East Germans are redpilled(pun not intended)

But your government and institutions are pozzed as fuck, every couple of weeks I see articles about how your government wants to ban the AFD, or how some migrants got scot free for raping a girl/dude/grandma/dog in the park in broad daylight, or how your glowies are terrorizing german streamers over stupid jokes.

no because we don't cater to horny streetshitters
you can keep your whores and degenerate garbage in the US

How do you even apply they/them or whatever the fuck in a gendered language anyway?

You can’t. It wouldn’t make any sense because German’s grammatical system relies a lot on inflection that changes to agree with the noun’s gender.

To make games you need to use your soul and germans have been taught for generations to not tap into that soul

everspace 2 is okay
they don't seem interested in making story driven games

cause your retarded government and its institutional leftist lackeys (yes that also counts for the CDU/CSU) drained any and all entrepreneurial spirit out of the country over the last 25 years

during the 80s and 90s germany even had a fuckin wafer industry
that shit's all gone

during amiga days some of the best games came from Germany (ambermoon for example)
that shit's all gone

during the early 2000s you still had some guys that did something cause they were inspired by everything that came before
you got gothic and later even crisis
That shit's all gone too

I mark the end of german game development somewhere around the time radon labs shit the bed
roughly around that point it just became too damn expensive to hire people for risky projects (it already was before, but when loans contracted that was it)

Aba die UntAnehMen MÜssn IhRn AntAil an der GesELLschaft TraGN hat da MaNN im FernSehA gesagt!!

You guys are faggots. That's your problem. You think you can solve everything with a bunch of new laws. But that shit ain't it brother. No matter how much you hope for the economic Endsieg, that attitude is gonna fuck you over and over and over again.

Enjoy your baustellen simulator slop cause that's the only shit that can be cranked out with reasonable costs and still convince enough boomers to make a purchase, while they pick up a bunch of cables at media market.

You did it all to yourself.

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it's dumb. example: german word for teacher is "Lehrer" for men or "Lehrerin" for women. they want us to use "Lehrer*in" to include both in one.

You don't want to know. It is fucking retarded hyperfeminist bullshit.

You butcher it, Dragon Age the Veilguard uses gender neutral inclusive language in the translations even in gendered languages. I'm not a linguist and I'm not very familiar with German but apparently this was achieved by combining masculine and feminine nouns into grammatical monstrosities and outright making new words up like pronouns.

They made the perfect game - Gothic. No need flex on the industry anymore

Gothic, Risen, Elex are all made by Piranha Bytes, which is a German developer.
No wait. Was. Was a German developer. Apparently they closed down last year.
Fuck this gay earth.
I guess between that and Daedalic absolutely assblasting themselves off the disaster that was Gollum, the German gamedev ecosystem shrunk somewhat.
Deck13 is still out there. Lords of the Fallen, The Surge, Atlas Fallen. Crytek (as in, the Crysis guys) are German but Crysis 4 seems to be in development hell atm. Everything past that point is getting a bit too small, obscure or autistic to mention.

Just look at Daedalic's catalogue. Germany isn't a strange to shitting out indie games. They're resting now

There is a new forklift/farming/truck/other work simulator from Germany every week too

Deck13 is still out there

After that dud Atlas Fallen probably not for long.

Sadly, you are 100% spot on.

Albion Online is a German game. It's a pretty successful MMORPG.

high cost of living, high taxes and a massive barrier to starting a company
you'd have to be a retard to start any business in germany these days

nigga my great uncle was in the SS
I know Germans, and the entire country should be nuked

Turks don't know how to make games

during the 80s and 90s germany even had a fuckin wafer industry

that shit's all gone

Bosch and Infineon have fabs in Germany.

Global Foundries (former AMD fabs) are also still here.

x4 foundations , Enshrouded the Anno series by the way two of the og piranha bytes devs made out of spite another studio i forgot their names its a women and her hubi if i remember rightly, i hope more of the blessed indies rise there so much potential

You inferiority complex is still showing.

gothic is about the only series of value listed
risen and elex are your usual 4/10 eurojank rpgs on the same level as the shit what a third rate french studio like spiders produced, and nobody cares about greedfall
deck13 games are straight up garbo, the more recent (and better) lords of the fallen was not even made by them, crytek are barely game makers, crysis was always a way for them to showcase their actual product, cryengine

I know you guys love to deepthroat germany but at least suck them off for the shit they're actually good at, producing media is not one of them

during the 80s and 90s germany even had a fuckin wafer industry

Siltronic is based in Munich and is one of the largest wafer manufacturers in the world.

It's been only a couple of years since Merkel held a speech at gamescom... and fuck all happened.

Shit like "SchülerInnen" has already a thing when I went to school 30 years ago, it's nothing new

Yeah but there is definitely a qualitative difference
these guys, if i am not entirely mistaken are mostly doing engineering/architectural design and the chinkers are putting it together somewhere overseas

that alone would probably be fine, however back in the 80s you had that plus an actual industry that built german computers like the siemens PC X
they basically acted as a german version of intel
and that industry got fucked over completely by immensely increased tax burden and legal hurdles during the 90s
Schneider PCs got completely fucked then too
Same shit happened in the UK
Similar stuff could be seen in the internet business
there is a reason there is no german google or amazon or whatever
in Austria they upped the costs for LLCs for example, basically fucking the market for internationally active startups at the time

oh no, it was woke all along...

binnen I has been a feminist nagging point since the 70s

I am so happy they are getting their identities and movement obliterated by mentally ill troons guys...

I'm not deepthroating shit, I am German myself and desperately trying to think off noteworthy games to even list. I know Risen was somewhat popular here when it came out, which makes sense, Eurojank is often most popular in its own country.
Deck13 games aren't great on average but at least they have some degree of presence internationally, even if most of it boils down to dunking on them for making Dark Souls underwater.

Anno

X4

Didn't mention those because I legitimately cannot tell if non-Germans even play those. Anno seems disproportionally more popular domestically (The Settlers too), and I never hear about the X series over other space games.

Enshrouded

Didn't know that's German. Cool.
I guess if we're including indie games, Synthetik is a German game series too.

Cant really blame the player. When your best employment options are

A: be unemployed, do nothing productive, play vidya all day and get free money
B: work for the government, do nothing productive, play vidya all day and get free money

it is just what naturally will happen

where the kriegsspiel vidja

Spec Ops

Piranhabytes is bankrupt and gone, Egosoft has turned X into a live service game through DLCs.

Anon you can bet she just did the same as Schröder same Gen afterall etc pp yadda the Bildmedien shellshock still sits with them due erfurt and the glowie aftermath everything covered under the blanked of save the children meanwhile you cant even buy adult games as an adult
i forgot to mention a little post apocalyptic city builder Endzone a World Apart

Because this shithole is a cultural black void

Well, at least we have some games. I never hear anything from like 90% of the other European countries

For the same reason why the industry leaves the country: too expensive. A big company can just pick a cheaper country with less taxes and shit. For smaller or medium sized dev teams it's a huge risk with potentially low reward. I recall the state invested into games at some point but they either had to be educational nature or political approved so they only ever ended up funding total trash with way too much tax payer money.

They made Gothic. They don't need to make more. In fact I wish they hadn't. Two games were enough.

the dutch and poles are superior

Why are there so many furries in germany?

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Because contrary to popular belief, German society is EXTREMELY conservative (just mostly atheist/only religious on paper), which leads to a lot of risk aversion. And creating a business is extremely risky as is, a game studio even more so.

It's also why the only movies that come out of Germany are movies about the Nazi/GDR dictatorship or shit-ass romcoms. Both naturally featuring every minority under the sun, just to minimize the *risk* of offending anyone.

Every risk needs to be accounted for and secured against, as seen in the massive bureaucracy, too and a generally unwillingness against major political reforms because any reform has the risk of "what if it isn't perfect on the first try?". Germans call it "Vollkaskomentalität" ("fully comprehensive insurance mentality").

Anyone played this? Im interested but unsure if i should pull the trigger. Seems like some visual novel based on germanys DnD (The Dark Eye).

Some DSA autist tell me if its worth the money

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i shall once again use this opportunity to shill this game (available on Steam). Its based on the first book of Markus Heitz fantasy series and was one of my big gateway drugs into fantasy back in the day. Also you play dwarves, which is pretty fucking rare. This shit deserves more praise and attention.

cursed license

but they recently released an open license equivalent to OGL so we might be seeing something good coming out for once

Isnt the license for pen and paper only, or does it include rights to use the setting in vidya too?

it is a strange phenomenon that I personally link to german autism and the prevalence of early furry shit during amiga days - a time when german developers were still deeper involved in the gaming industry

It's a valid question desu. OP points out that a lot of games have been coming from Eastern and Northern Europe recently, which is true. Immediately west of Germany there's France, which obv makes games too. You'd think the neighbor to all those countries would have an industry to speak of as well.
A lot of it is that risky ventures into entertainment are prohibitively expensive as other posts pointed out, and I feel like that isn't just a vidya problem at this point. German movies seem to have become a rarity, and the state of German TV seems particularly dire, with every channel seemingly rerunning syndicated shit from 10-15 years ago.
I suspect that back in the 90s and early 2000s, and of course before that, it wasn't as commonplace for all media to receive global releases more or less immediately, and nobody knew how to speak English, which made producing native entertainment more feasible.
Now that everything just always comes out everywhere simultaneously, and anyone that would play videogames can just play the videogame in English anyway, the market for German games or movies made by German for Germans all but dried up.

It's all a bit sad, really. Perhaps similar things are true for other European countries, as well.

Hunt: Showdown is in my opinion the best fps game ever made and I will die on that hill.
It has the best sound design and gunplay of any shooter.

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or does it include rights to use the setting in vidya too?

i believe i read something about movies as well so I just assumed it also applies to vidya

They'd be beyond retarded at this point if they made an exception there

we did make this one

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daedalic is dead, piranha bytes is dead. there are no more games from germany.

Would it kill them to use neutral masculine? Oh, wait

EA and some publishers have it cozy here. Indies go under the radar and people use grants to move money around.
They don't take it seriously and never will.

Hunt hasn't been good in like a year, and it had been on a downward decline for a year or so before that. At its peak it was unmatched

arent a fuckton of german devs on the CD Project and Warhose studio teams? Also THQ nordic has lots in german devs in Munich or something

drakensang is quite okay. avoid the rest.

Tell me more about what the game is about and what makes it good

Calling prudistan degenerate

As a German

Kek, remind me which country has sex channels during late night tv again? If anything, I expect Germans to double down on it.

shame about ui patch, it made game unplayable for me and my friends for too long and we dropped it
we were playing since the start too..

It's been improving slowly after the engine update
UI is still is a mixed bag

Its a tactical rpg with ok gameplay and a fun story that is pretty truthful to the source material. As a day one fan of the novel series im obviously biased and pretty thrilled to see it all in video game form. So i guess even if you arent familiar with the book, the narrative and story driven, choice heavy gameplay is still pretty enjoyable.

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You're correct to a certain extent but I don't think it is that dramatic. The 1896 launch was miserable and we still haven't fully recovered from it almost a year later.
A ton of meta changes are also stupid as fuck, but lately they have been rolling some of them back which is great to see. For me it never left the #1 in the fps genre however, even at its lowest point.
When it comes down to playing a match of Hunt, the pure gameplay is still unmatched. You'll play some other big name shooter and the sound design feels like a joke and so does the gunplay.
It is better nowadays, but still not as good as pre-patch. They've showed a concept for future UI improvements and those looked really fucking good. Vertical lists that show more than 5 things at once on your screen.
UI thats actually made for a PC game. I would look out for that.

Heitz is based but his writing feels a bit too simple at times. I honestly preferred Hennen's elven books to this.

bruv your govt is one of the wokest in the world. you cant remotely suggest Hitler maybe wasnt as bad as Western media paints him out to be, and the right wing faction of your government just got officially labeled as a terrorist organization.

tactical rpg

Fuck I'm already getting filtered, I suck at these

Hennen is pretty good too but for some reason there is something with his writing style that just sits wrong with me. I cant even but my finger on it.

If you have the money to make a good successful video game, you have the money to move to a less cucked country.
t. German

what country would that be. Where does milk and honey still flow, kraut anon

this game needs some kind of falloutesque adaptation fork something something Steampunk/Kaiserpunk first person apocalypse rpg, i bet people would love it with a nice story multiple factions and so on

I'm playing gothic 2 for the first time it's pretty good, I just finished gothic 1

daedalic died with poki

ABSOLUTE TRUTH:
Fact 1: Krauturds are not the masterrace
Fact 2: Krauturds will never be aryan
Fact 3: Krauturds have mongolic and slavic admixature thus are not white (Haplogroup C-M217)
Fact 4: Krauturds are the weakest race in europe
Fact 5: Krauturds lost ALL of their wars
Fact 6: Krauturds are being replaced with africans and muslims
Fact 7: Krauturds are sissies and bbclovers that cant fight back
Fact 8: Krauturds are all inbred slavo-mongolic rapebabies. Most of them have also jewish ashkenazite ancestry
Fact 9: Krauturds are predisposed to be autistic, most krautniggers are also furries, its in their mongolic DNA
Fact 10: Krauturds are vermin that killed the greatest civilization in History (Rome) and they killed more white people than Jews
fun fact: Krautrannies created communism

Imagine being German, the cumrag of Europe

toilet cleaner mad lol

Is the "gender star" asterisk not even there as a placeholder to include 99 other genders? Is it just male and female? Why tf change away from "Lehrer and Lehrerinnen"? It's SO fucking awkward to read and pronounce gender star words, especially if there's a bunch in a row, such as in a list. And now I learn it's not even extending the older, better conventions?

As much as I like Hitler/etc, modern Germans are soulless, no personality, just awful people.

Wasn't he Austrian?

germans btfo

I'm mad because now everyone can see that Germany was right

What happened to Germany? Germans used to have cool philosophy and literature.

They can't into software.

Jews broke their soul.

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Germany was right

No, but Hitler indeed was
Realizing defeat was imminent, Hitler declared the Germans subhumans for failing to realize his ideals

France is the only eternal country of Europe. Most relevant European country in 800 AD, in 1700, and today.
Germany is a one time fluke no different from Spain, Sweden, or some Italian city state.

Have you ever been to Paris?

freaking blows that the AquaNox series had exactly 1 good game. I replayed it a while ago and gained a much deeper appreciation for how much heavy lifting the writing did for worldbuilding
- very fun larger-than-life characters with good VA
- exotic, cyberpunk world with ye olde megacorps, but also novel slang and some fun concepts like "terror tourism" and accessing old tech in orbit around the irradiated surface world
- sweet technobabble that was worth looking up to fully understand
- a hilarious stock of drinks that do ever more ridiculous damage to guts and soul. Hitting up a new bar always felt exciting.

The main plot is kinda whatever, but settling into the world was a treat.

France is the REAL germanic country among all these other germanic countries

Yeah, just like those scrubs that go ballistic when their team is losing and blame everyone else but themselves.

Flamboyant french hands wrote this post

seething subhuman

Sieg Heil nigger

And this is why they lost the WW2 the moment it began. The UK were never going to surrender European, let alone World hegemony to Germany. Though it's interesting how Poland was basically set up by bongs and frenchies.

France is the only eternal country of Europe.

They are literally committing autogenocide, and at an alarming rate. France will cease to exist by the end of the century.

and germany won't? we hecking love immigrants

i exercise zivilen ungehorsam by only reading the male form and ignoring all female forms

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Prussia becoming a dominant German state in the second half of the XIX century gave them collective autism and morphed them from das Volk der Dichter und Denker into das Volk der Richter und Henker.

this subhuman mutt seething at the mere mention of Gemany

kek eveytime

Dumbest shit I ever heard. Germany was dominant in the sciences, philosophy and what not well into the 20th century.

it would take like 100 years for us to reach the current french level

France was not a thing in 800 you historically illiterate mutt.

internal gov documents often say "we don't gender cuz it makes this unreadable, feel included though" right at the top and just use male as the default for the remaining 50 pages.

The asterisk is practically never used over capitalization (LehrerInnen). The use of asterisks was straight up rejected by the Council for German Orthography because you're not allowed to have special characters in words.
Genders outside of male/female aren't really a thing in Germany. There's technically also "unbestimmt" (unspecified) and "divers" (misc), but those are mostly reserved for intersex people where there's a medical reason for it. The only place you'll practically ever encounter a third gender is in job postings where the job title is followed by (m/w/d) for male/female/misc.

when I go outside I see more foreigners than germans, and I don't even live in a big city

G*rmany has been slacking with simulation games. Overall it's cucked state. Don't expect any innovation or progress in the next 50 years.

The German model of over subsidizing trash kills all creativity.

Great Britain?

The kingdom of the Franks existed since the final years of western Rome under Clovis I historylet

Anno is still trucking along.

When I was younger, you barely saw anybody outside during the day. Germans were too busy working.

Now you see shitskins everywhere.

Franks

Yeah a german tribe. We raped the gauls into calling themselves after them, just like we raped the britoids into calling themselves after the Angeln.

Clovis

Not a real name, it was Chlodwig.

most of our foreigners are other europeans and at worst turks
we have less than 1 million africans and nafris, that's nothing compared to any other major western country

other europeans, aka poles, czech, russians and ukrainians (russians)

why aren't there more games coming out of Germany?

- 85% of Goymans are surfing still on Copper while the rest of civilization is enjoying Fibre
- No 5G coverage anywhere besides City hot spots (which are fucking expensive)
- Insane amount of taxation regarding anything you do e.g. working, fishing, farming, running own company
- Tariffs rape Germans
- ridiculous cost of living increase (especially gas, electricity, apartment rent)
- suffering from influx Migrants that do not want to adapt to German Traditions
- recently a woman stabbed like 20 people with a knife because mad
- drugs sold everywhere after legalization of weed (I see daily 14-18 year olds smoke in public)
- nu-devs have no idea to make games and are usually retarded, no feel for gaming, simply NPCs
- countless alcoholics that can't wait for Oktoberfest to come

I could go on but yea pretty much