Isn't it funny how the supposedly dead genre of turn based single-player games is the one where the hype lasts the longest now?
Isn't it funny how the supposedly dead genre of turn based single-player games is the one where the hype lasts the...
Older gamers always loved 4 dudes in a row and turn based. It's just zoomers that prefer FF remake to this gameplay.
It's successful because of the soulslop parryslop gameplay.
I'm 46 and have played tons of turn-based games, I enjoyed them despite the shit combat. Turn-based is antiquated and belongs on the garbage pile of gaming history. Now I put turn-troons in their place all day - every day. :)
Square needs their games to sell 5 million+ to be successful.
Outside of BG3, which isn't even the same genre, no modern 4 niggers in a line game has come close to 5mil+ copies sold.
Turn based game
Look inside
It's actually a cinematic QTE game
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
goddamn nigga like you old af nigga time to retire nigga ha ha ha ha
E33 already sold 2m on PC alone gamalytic.com
Preferring either turn-based or real-time is a midwit's dilemma. The best games are centered around dynamic interactions. Without tradeoffs, those don't exist.
E33 has some of that, but your choices are centered around mitigating your bad reflexes, if applicable.
You can't ring the victory bells for E33, saying turn-based is back when what people liked from classic RPGs, the decision-making, is nowhere to be seen in it.
I don't know a single zoomer who plays FF. Its probably the most millennial franchise that still gets games.
3 niggas dodging and parrying in a row
you need to stop thinking about zoomers
And non weeb aesthetic
Not even top 10.
Turn based games never died you were just posers who just wanted a turn based final fantasy
he posted it again
do the same without half the boss missing you disingenuous piece of shit
While I love both BG3 and COE33 (both games very solid 9s with flaws here and there, some bigger, some smaller, overall, can't give either game a perfect ten no matter what) I am pretty amazed at the outsider/normie love these games get, ESPECIALLY COE33, how does this happen?
I mean the world, writing, characters, dialogues are all great, music is very normie-friendly too even if it gets samey and boring by middle of act 2, but still, people fucking ADORE this thing saying it's the best game since BG3 or Nier Automata or whatever the fuck else when I literally would still rather pick Metaphor Refantazio over this.
Storyfags need to leave. If you weren't playing untranslated imported JRPGs, you're not a real one
When will the ESG money dry up for this games shill campaign?
I literally would still rather pick Metaphor Refantazio over this.
opinion discarded
well clearly whatever they're doing right now isn't working
damn what if we shrank the number of copies we need to sell rather than try to sell three 70 dollar games to every person on earth?
highest one that isn't f2p or live service is a turn based rpg
Zoomers
playing final fantasy
Turn based game
Look inside
MMO-tier skill cooldown bars
just exclude the genres that are doing really well
they played FF13 and will tell you it's the best final fantasy ever before admitting if's the only one along with 15 that they played.
gee boss idk what gets played more full price one run and done singleplayer game or f2p timewasting skinnerbox for 11 year olds on summer break. if only there were stats other than playtime.
It turns out the genre was dead because the only turn based games were japshit.
Thank you BG3 and E33 for saving the genre
He still hasn't beaten Counter Strike 2
LMAO
Remember that the next time you want to jerk off to numbers.
It's fun and rewards you for exploration and building different playstyles. It's that simple.
the genre isn't the problem so much as the stories have just gotten increasingly shitter since the PS1 era. Stale Manur is no exception. most JRPGs go on way longer than they should for the good content. I wouldn't complain if most sold for like $10 and I got 5-10 hours of enjoyment out of an optimized story arc.
it's important to not listen to final faggotroons
they know nothing
What I find the funniest is how zoomers are basically playing Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga for the first time 22 years after it came out and thinking timed hits are a revolutionary idea.
Just because the chinks are botting the game doesn't mean it's successful.
I would dial back your simplistic take. Metaphor Refantazio never got anywhere near this topic engagement so it's not purely a turnbased thing.
Yeah is because the anime aesthetic is trannycore.
maybe if nigtendo actually made mario & luigi games instead of awful turds with more tutorials than gameplay alphadream wouldn't be dead
I unfortunately can't play this game for a couple months because my computer broke but does this game actually live up to the insane hype it's been getting? I'm sure it's at least pretty good but tons of people say this is the best story in all of gaming and has the best turn based combat system as well and there's no way it actually lives up to that stuff right?
It turns out good games have good word of mouth.
I know that Nier Automata is not turn based but E33 is the new NA. The music, the atmosphere, the flow of the game, every thing reminds me of NA. So I guess that depends on how much you liked NA.
Why are you larping me? KEK
Please, do continue. :)
This.
Metaphor Refantazio
Looks like a simple reskin for Persona/SMT
I mean I like NieR Automata but I don't think it's an all timer personally so we'll see
I know that Nier Automata is not turn based but E33 is the new NA.
I am inhaling nuclear levels of copium that it will get the Automata treatment, GOTY edition with fleshing out a new ending.
P. Alicia broke my heart...
this game is huge millennial bait lol, gen z isn't wasting their time on these boring movies
wouldn't it be crazy if france became a 90s-00s era japan level vidya powerhouse in the next few years? The next generation growing up watching subbed french cartoons and reading french comics.
Yoshi-P Status?
Reputational suicide through his retarded comments about FF can't be turnbased anymore.
A Je'RPG
sneeding
I haven't meet a single FF player below 25.
I go to gaming cons all the time.
Don't say the 'jrpg' word, Yoship gets offended when he hears it.
Sounds retarded right? Yet it's something he really said in the press events lead up to FF16's release.
That was yoship trying to reverse racism the game journos that were calling his game racist because it had no niggers.
Sadly for him, it just made him sound retarded. I don't really blame him though, he clearly doesn't know how to deal with slimy gaymen journos.
Also, he is right that journos are prejudiced against jrpgs.
Did you go to FFXIV's last fanfests? I went to the London one back in 2023, most people looked around 30-40. Plenty of good looking, attractive women, a lot of Asians but as you say I didn't see any under 25. It's not really a bother to me that, I like a girl around 25-35. Fanfests though, should really be called fuckfests with the amount of people who do hook ups after the event, back at the hotels.
he hype lasts the longest now
only sold 2 million
gamesradar.com
This game will keep selling well for a long time
>he hype lasts the longest now
It’s on track to become the best selling JRPG of all time
FF17 is going to BTFO it.
Even the best FF games are worse than E33 in literally every regard except possibly balance. You are completely blinded by nostalgia.
79,000 players
dead game
I mean it is kinda weirdly low considering the acclaim. It's getting far more praise than Elden Ring and BG3 ever did yet for some reason the player numbers are really small in comparison. Maybe just because it's day one gamepass?
im 35 and I love the ff7 remake and I liked EX33 as well.
It's beautiful.
Reminder several of the devs are FF8 enjoyers AND Verso's voice actor his favourite game ever is FF8.
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JRPGs have always been a niche genre, despite the hubbub around Metaphor it's actual concurrent numbers are standard.
Where E33 looks impressive is how slow its dropoff was - it actually had a higher concurrent count on its second weekend after release because of the word of mouth.
Also various Streamers only just finished playing it this/last week so its still in the spotlight.
Why is this game's fanbase so terrible?
popular isn't equal popularity
Outer Wild and disco elysium didn't get super high player numbers as well.
These well received games tend to have really strong legs however, Nier Automata being a prime example.
acclaim isn't equal popularity *
Based
Yeah but Outer Wilds and Disco Elysium are both much lower quality games and are both indie so it makes sense for them to not be doing as well.
Because the game reeks of artsy fartsy millennial hipster vibes, and I say that as someone who really liked it.
The correct way to deal with journos is to show how JRPGs can surpass WRPGs. But all he did was try to turn JRPGs into watered down mediocre roll/actionslop WRPGs and get laughed at.
how the supposedly dead genre of turn based single-player games
the "supposed" dead genre statements are only statements made by turn based fags that have a victim complex
why do you complain about yoship not liking the term JRPG, and then say exp33 is just "a good jrpg without the usual anime shit"?
which side are you on?
Shows a red screen for me during cutscenes
barry won
How can Rust be so high...
Bizarrely finishing this game has made me want to play FF16 due to Verso's voice actor. I haven't played 15 or 16. Only 4,6,7,8,9,10,12,13 and the 7 remakes.
Tetsuya Nomura want the genre to die, so his kingdom hearts slop reigns supreme.
I bet KH would sell more if it was turn based.
journos are prejudiced against
japan
You should play BG3 as well, a lot of the same actors.
youtube.com
Turn-based is antiquated and belongs on the garbage pile of gaming history.
Yet turn based is more popular than ever while the real time slop has flailed
BG3 and FF16 are written by retards though
Has anyone from square enix responded to this game's success? I assume not, since the dudes with the hot takes on turn-based being dead are old fragile ego japanese old men, which pretty much means they're all women stuck in eternal menstruation. So they'll probably ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist and that "no one wants to play turn-based rpgs" while their projects keep failing and ff7 remake becomes more of nomura's kingdom hearts nonsense.
sciel with long hair = sex
Kinda.
Square Enix should interview the devs for a video or something. Would be kinda interesting to see the devs of this game talk with the devs of FF7 Remake/Rebirth and FF16.
I don't understand the whole obsession with E33 bringing "turn-based" combat back. There's very little strategy since the parry is so strong that it ends up playing more like an action game with zero positioning. JRPG combat is lacking but E33 isn't the right direction to go either.
You ok Son? You're getting youself worked up and all upset over some words on the 'net.
lil bro baldurs gate 3 already brought it back
Square interviewing a young developer who outshined them in their own genre is one of the most self-defeating cuck business moves they could make. They should distance themselves if anything.
bg3 is too legitimately high iq for the masses even though 5e is for retards.
they made a post about the game on their twitter account praising the game.
The guy’s clearly washed after XVI and Dawntrail. The fact that he pushed for an action game says it all. I hope he’s still seething tomorrow.
It’s all Yoshi-P though. Square’s still the biggest company putting out turn-based JRPGs (Star Ocean, SaGa, etc.)
Lol, pathetic
I keep seeing this nigga say he’s “inspired” by literally anything. Is he just trying to make connections or something?
e33 is shit and not a real turn based game
it has shit balance, boring, barely any rpg mechanics that matter
you just need to press buttons are good timings and you do everythign its boring easy and shitty balanced
He just has good taste
He just likes final fantasy.
Metaphor is for Patricians
E33 is for plebes, also 30 threads per minute are spammed by paid Indians, let's keep to facts
I can forgive him for that since his game is kino
Yeah I agree that BG3 has much better combat than E33 even if I don't like 5E all too much. I'm just disagreeing with the common assertion that E33 is bringing turn based combat back.
Genre: Action
Not turn based.
They’re not going to risk $150–200 million on FF17 by making it turn-based just because a $50 AA French game happened to catch lightning in a bottle. Let’s be real, it was a perfect storm of “bringing turn-based back,” “small studio makes AAA-quality,” “Ubisoft le bad, le Square bad,” “JRPG without anime,” “only 30 devs!” people love a total success story.
Many such cases.
I found out how to make this. Shouldn't be too difficult since the models are all there.
"They"
Some intern, my dude. You wouldn't catch Yoshi-p saying anything.
Kneel E33troons
lol your going to jail
It would be a perfect game for me if it wasnt for those QTEs cosplaying as sekiros parrys, they undermine whole tactical game play/stats and systems, just tap button to a boss you have to learn patterns and win. Its like designing a quick time event for an attack in Heroes of might and magic.
Journos only liked Metaphor because it supported they're politics
your
Not with that grammar, LMAO.
is metaphor worth playing or its it a cringey anime weeb game like persona 5? its getting added to game pass in a few days I think, so might sub to play it.
they're
ESL
How the fuck do I not get one shot by everything in the post-game?
why does it matter if you know what my sentence meant?
You wouldn't get it.
its blatant weebshit
Because you have good defenses? Are you seriously asking why?
No Pajeet astroturfers vs Pajeet astroturfers
Why does correct grammar matter?
ESL opinion discarded.
what the fuck is that website lmao
b-but mario!
Metaphor is a flop, half later is on the gamepass because it can even sell 2 million
Metaphor's writing is basically explaining racism and populism to 15 year olds. Very heavy handed and long winded.
only boomers care about the difference between your and you're
Do the party member quests first, esp Maelle's which has a new area, then go to Frozen Hearts, then Flying Manor, then the rest.
muh boomers
You need to be 18+ to use this site, ESL.
based fanbase
fatlus faggots should know fear
if you didn't play both games, which you didn't, your opinion is worthless.
You first.
some french movie slop
literally has nothing to do with turn based combat
already dead and forgotten
b-but I thought if I shill on Anon Babble
the funny thing is it actually doesn't support their politics, it just sounds like it does on the surface. journos don't actually finish games
FFcucks still seething
every game in this image is kino, jrpg enjoyers are feasting lately. series-warring faggots need the rope.
Who says things like this. Who stans for ff
LAD8 that low
Yeah their pricing model is completely fucked. The full game is like $200 + Denuvo, only the die hards will buy that.
I unfortunately can't play this game for a couple months because my computer broke but does this game actually live up to the insane hype it's been getting?
What do retards expect when they ask a question like that?
You have seen tons of people saying it's great, you've seen a bunch of people who are butthurt about the game. Do they become more credible when there is a (you) in their post?
KEK
It's not part of some big normalfag franchise that gets automatic purchases from random people. This game only exists for people who keep up with gaming information.
I mean it is kinda weirdly low
This is very obvious. Are you retarded?
this game's fanbase
Those people who are seething at Metaphor are disappointed Fatlus fans, not taunting Expedition 33 players.
Metaphor sold 1m on launch day, it's the fastest selling Atlus title to date. E33 took two weeks to reach 2m.
Steam
Meaningless. Most people play JRPGs on console. E33 is the only exception because its fans are BG3 bandwagoners.
It’s all Yoshi-P though
Exactly, which is why his reputation has taken a huge hit with the success of Expedition 33, before Dawntrail the entire games media were praising him as a visionary and now they are openly shitting on him saying he's out of touch with the games industry and the audience for FF games.
Baldur's Gate was very much an unknown franchise for the average person
My PC shit the bed recently. Do you guys think I can run this game with my backup laptop? It can run Elden Ring, Overwatch, but not Marvel Rivals or Deadlock, so idk about recent optimization from developers.
Kneel Metaphortroons.
Older gamers always loved 4 dudes in a row and turn based.
Corpos are retarded, instead of trying to retain the audience that grew up with their games, they decided they had to reach the newer audiences, who play nothing but Fortnite and Roblox.
Here's YoshiP's game just for the collection, Expedition 33 stomped them both.
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Here you go.
Can't believe we're getting this level of seethe for free. I feel #blessed
They’re not going to risk $150–200 million on FF17 by making it turn-based
Then FF will continue to wither away.
When are they goinn to send reesok o thhe stores? I refuse to be scalped
e33 is better but both are great games. rebirth, infinite wealth, smt v v, p3r, all excellent games. damn it feels good being an actual jrpgchad and not a series warring faggot who can only enjoy one thing.
We haven't got a fully turn based jrpg with AAA quality in over 20 years, going back to genres roots can be groundbreaking by now, but yeah those suits in Square still think "action game will bring new young audience"... problem is they think that for 20 years now, and its getting worse and worse.
[Fatlus game] is for patricians
More people finished E33 then Baldur, makes you think.
Pajeet shills digging up ancient memes nobody posts anymore
SAAARR
I still havent finished act 2
I'm extending my playthrough as much as possible as I don't want to leave the game world, I know there is a new game plus but it's not the same.
Its almost as if the CEO's are so braindead and out of touch with gamers
Who would've thought?
Same. Im taking my time killing everything and finding all the secrets. Im also fixing some outfits from the maelle nude mod so i get the pure uniform with microbikini. What difficulty are you playing on? I installed the 1.3x slightly easier parrying mod and Im playing on expedition with story parry timings. Depending on the boss i might bump it down to story.
Only retards say that. Especially after BG3
Completion is not the best metric for engagement or interest; people can enjoy a game immensely, yet may just restart when they reach the end. BG3 is behind only Elden Ring in terms of engagement for an SP-focused game. The average playtime is also 115 hours (ER is 128).
BG3 and Clair Obscur are both awesome games; no need to pit them against each other.
What site can I use to check average playtime of games? I want to check Nier Automata? Is this based on steam reviews or a better metric?
SteamDB, Steam spy, Augmented steam extension
You know that site is fake as fuck right? You cant be this retarded
Especially after BG3
You mean pokemon which obliterates both of these games? You must be a retard in the purest sense to ignore it
If it is fake how there are people paying for their premium?
howlongtobeat
Yea its called a scam
I once talked with this millennial fag that kept saying turn based is dead and that FF is only good now that it turned action
he kept seething at Exp33
It's not. See gamalytic.com
How this works?
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Also you can find a lot of indie developers on steam saying that their estimates are pretty accurate.
we let them gaslight us into thinking turn based was antiquated and needed to be moved from
If they do a FF9 remake and it’s not like this I’m not playing it.
Kys coward tendiejeet
Nice boogeyman
Does he kill cats too?
Yep, M&L BiS really is the best turn BASED game of all time
That's why it's shit.
Nobody cares about weeb shit
Metaphor had the luckiest timing aka being used to shit on FF, without that most people stopped caring
nobody cares about the world's biggest franchise
Ranjeesh, where did they hire you? I'm going to ask your chink boss to lower your payment.
those aren't zoomers anon they are in their late 20s or 30s by now
US and China top nearly every game on Steam in terms of player numbers. The US has a lot of people and high disposable income, China has an absolute fuckton of people and decent enough income.
China even tops games like Call of Duty and Witcher 3.
late 20s
zoomers
30s
Very young millenials. Since the cutoff is 1995 the youngest millenials are 30 or hitting 30 this year.
Same. I just completed the Flying Manor and keep finding shit on the World Map that I don't know how I missed.
It's a game for kids and pedos.
Nintendo's manchildren don't count.
And EX33 is for fags, trannies and roasties, but we're not arguing about fanbases, are we? Trying to pretend this 'revitalized' turn-based when Pokemon still exists and still sells gangbusters is stupid. And Pokemon is turn-based for real unlike this pseudo-Fromslop game with parrying, dodging, aiming and QTEs.
when Pokemon still exists
Nobody plays pokemon because it's a turn based RPG dude.
This seem to be a common occurrence. Every time you see a single player game on Steam with high player count months after release when you look at the stats per country the majority of players are always Chinese. Pretty weird.
Nobody plays pokemon because it is for children and pedos. Turn based games are popular.
Can make the same argument for BG3 and EX33. Nobody played BG3 for its dogshit clunky combat, they played it for the romance. Nobody played EX33 for the "turn-based experience", because you can trivialize everything with parrying and dodging.
That's why it's great.
I was seriously surprised at the percentage of players who completed certain achievements. Normally when I play any game, new, or weeks/month after release, there's always a steep drop off in achievement completion percentage as the game progresses. Like you'll see an achievement "beat the first mission" with 80% completion and then later you'll see "beat the seventh mission" at like 20% completion. All throughout the game the completion rates for achievements surprised me, indicating a large percentage of those who bought actually played it for what it was worth instead of just adding it to their library and shelving it.
The inspirations are very obvious, he didn't even need to say it
How? I have the modpack that someone linked but idk which one it is
Nevermind. I commissioned the original creator of the nude modpack to recreate it. Apparently, it came from here:
allthefallen.moe
This. In fact many of the normies I know who play Pokémon make that game the one exception.
you dont need the ng+ in order to get the platinum, do you?
what's the point of ng+?