Doom is cooked

let's take doom but make everything worse

What were they thinking?

The price of a new GPU, I guess

gamepass doesn't count because... BECAUSE IT DOESN'T

never change vee

goypass

WHERE'S THE FUCKING SALES NUMBERS SHITHEAD

The 2.2 million is from gamepass.
Saying players is a company's attempt to trick investors into believing they are doing way better than they actually are.

Now pay witness to the terrible vengeance of Mick Gordon.

In all seriousness though, it's boring.

GAMEPASS

Expedition 33. No excuse.

Gamepass players do not equate to sales.
The devs don't see a dime from Gamepass, but as this is a Microsoft game, Microsoft does get the $20/month from every Gamepass player except the millions abusing the $1 trials.

Your homosexual nuDoom bing bing wahoo is DEAD faggot

Gamepass has had 30 million subscribers for years now.
That's 5.5 billion in revenue it's generating every year.
Games like Doom keep people subscribed to it.

not even 10% of the goypass users even tried doom? YIKES

This is the third time this year that a game company has announced how many ""players"" it attracted, only to later announce that the sales were shit (DA: Veilguard, AC Shadows and now this). We can conclude that any game that uses the term "players" instead of "sales" in their big announcements after the game comes out is doing fucking terribly (as if that wasn't obvious already)

They still stay subscribed because it's an option.
If Doom wasn't on Gamepass, 90% of subscribers would say the service was worthless and unsubscribe even though they have no interest in playing it. It's all about appearances.

100% of the people have it for gta 5

nu-Doom can't even beat Arms

it beat avowed at least

You can count players in any dubious way you want.
Did you log in to play two times? 2 players.
Is your game on a network connected to 3 different devices? 3 players.

Even Halo Infinite can beat Doom lmfao

Yet.

Why do you think all these flops proudly advertise "players" and not "copies sold"?
Anyone who even bothered to try it out on goypass counts.

Apologize to Eternal

paying $20 a month to play a game that costs $20 outright and goes on sale for less than $5 every other week

I doubt it.

I think the game would be more popular if it didn't run like ass.

inb4 get a better GPU

No.

the free game beats the paid game

no shit

Cope to the nth degree.

people pay for goypass for a shitty game that 95% of gamepass users haven't even tried

I doubt it

If you get gamepass because you want to play Oblivion and then try doom for 5 minutes before you uninstall it again they'll count you even though you spent 0$ on their shitty game.

One game pass download is worth about a 100 sales so chuds loose again.

have the perfect opportunity to make Quake with these assets and setting

slap doom on there instead because you think it’ll sell

backfires horribly because it’s so tonally distant from every doom game and has weird mechanics

the free game

Doom is on Gamepass my bro

Gamepass doesn't count because it gives you much less money per instance. Someone trying your game on there and deciding it's trash gives you no real value, especially in a month where tons of people already signed for for Expedition 33 and the Oblivion remaster.

This is the third time this year that a game company has announced how many ""players"" it attracted, only to later announce that the sales were shit (DA: Veilguard, AC Shadows and now this).

We can conclude that any game that uses the term "players" instead of "sales" in their big announcements after the game comes out is doing fucking terribly (as if that wasn't obvious already)

You should retract your post immediately. This is a threat to the social order of the Video Game Industry.

try doom for 5 minutes

Nobody does this because it takes like 10 hours to install on a normal broadband connection. Game size bloat unironically hurts Gamepass uptake.

800,000 is definitely not exact. Why say it like that?

so was e33 retard

Riding dragons and mounting turrets was retarded and the TDA devs should be fired.

If you spend $5 instead of $80 you're at negative 75 not plus 5 no matter what the number at the end says.

Here’s a theory, what if they make more money on goypass subs than actually selling the game, what if the high price on the full game is a way to push you towards ‘rent’ it via goypass instead of own it outright? what if they are doing this for every game on different platforms?

cooked

Zoomer ass board

players

You know a game flopped when they announce player count instead of copies sold

Good theory for smaller budget AAA games. But the bloat in the AAA industry and the half decade dev cycles are not going to survive a $10 or $20 dollar a month subscription service. As of now copies have to actually be sold.

The new AAA entry in DOOM, the most seminal FPS franchise of ALL TIME sells less than some completely unproven French AA upstart game

What in the FUCK is going on at Id?

Is "players" just the new "X units shipped" way of tricking investors?

Gayty dollars

Gay Tracing is mandatory

Gaynuvo

Gayserved

Yeah, it's easy to tell, because you know that they would brag about good sales if they actually had them.
Like Sandfall is currently doing for E33.

Gamepass

You literally have it there, Gamepass, why pay $80 on steam for a game you one and done when you can pay $15 for Gamepass and still have plenty of time to play a few other games.

And they are 100% lowballing those numbers because its 2+ mill on steam alone

at least units shipped meant that the company actually sold the copies, it was then on the game stores to carry the bag if the game flopped, of course it would mean that next time the game stores would order less copies from the series or the company but that's a negative down the line, not a negative right now

Not surprised. 2016 was the only decent game in the nu-triology. Also who the fuck is going to spend $80 for a 20 hour game?

Yes. Investors only look at numbers so saying 3 million is more appealing than 800k. They think they're smart but only retards will think players means the same as units sold.

Most people that aren't retarded are playing on Gamepass.

Correct, which makes Doom even worse

price, forced RT, lame ass looking gameplay, somehow even lamer looking story cutscenes, vehicle and turret sections, bad music, Marty Stratton facing 0 consequences for fucking over Mick Gordon in the eternal fiasco
not surprising it isn't doing well

Problem with the game pass is that the studios/publishers need the game to sell at the $60-70 dollars, not at 9.99/mn or 15/mn. Xbox caught itself in the exact same trap Epic did when it tried to go against steam.

Big ass "3 million"

fine print "players"

what you think?
Also gamepass dont generate revenue per player to the developer so its pointless to say you have X players

The devs are gamepass

Achivementsin Gamepass show most people are playing it less than 2 hours.

people don't want to accept this but the 70 dollar pricetag has and will continue to be absolute poison and games have been underselling since adopting it compared to when they were 60 and lower. Don't believe me? Go look at Call of Duty MW3 going on sale for $60 not even a month after release.

The devs don't see a dime from Gamepass

Are you retarded?

I have gamepass and I still haven't downloaded it, might today was surprised it's file size was smaller than eternal

Even if the game was 40 bucks, most people have no raytracing card.

That's what killed the game, price and Denuvo was the cherry on top.

Probably should have priced it at 30 dollars and not shoved in all the MCU inspired shit if they were going to make the gameplay more appropriate for a completely new IP instead of Doom.

Why is this cope only necessary for bad games that nobody wants? Why do good games keep selling games? Why are you such a faggot?

b-but gamepass!

People can just subscribe to gamepass for like a month and then unsub effectively playing the game for like 70 bucks less

Game pass more like Cope pass lmoa

Doom 2016 blows everyone's minds because how well it runs relative to how it looks

two games later, now Doom has artificially higher requirements because devs are lazy and use gaytracing as a crutch

The RTX is just an extra nail in the coffin. But no one wants to spend 70 dollars on something that clearly has shit gameplay, particularly when that gameplay is so inappropriate for a popular franchise.

Explain E33 also being on gamepass and selling 3 million, go ahead.

its time for the industry to change

I hope this teaches phil a lesson, snoy and pc aren't a worthwhile market. Just come back to xbox exclusive, fleecing them out of pocket change isn't worth it

when ubisoft did some conference for investors and went on the usual deflections and bullshit about player numbers one of the investors asked straight up how many copies the game sold and the ubislop guy said that they don't disclose sales numbers, I think the investors are aware of the bullshitting that these companies do but they're expecting them to get bought out by tencent

I literally cannot play the game even though 2016 and Eternal ran fine on my old PC.

I swear those 2 are optimised with dark magic, Eternal ran more than fine on toasters.

have you ever watched a reveal trailer and lost all intresst the moment you saw a certain character?
once I saw her I knew this game just wasn't for me and pretty muched stopped following it.
Men deserve to have franchises and hobbies for themselves free of girlbosses.

I think it looks fun. I'm in the no raytracing card and to expensive camp.

If they counted their gamepass number they would have said 7 million players. It's objectively a bigger success than doom all around

Zoom redditernal did irreparable damage to this franchise

most people have no raytracing card.

People who can't afford a $150 GPU aren't buying a bunch of new games either way.

But they don't need to use the "players" cope, they can say copies sold.

Every AAA boasting about players is an autocope for their flop, same shit with AssCreed.

Microsoft pays devs to put their game on the pass you retard. It's a drop in the bucket for them but most devs will jump on it since it's guaranteed money and free exposure.

Is she even a girlboss?
Granted I didn't play the second half of the game yet but she literally just spent the whole first half of the game standing around being some guy's daughter and nothing else. all she's seemed to do after that is be some sort of mystic conduit but something tells me she will be powerless to do anything or ever have any agency.

It's even funnier that despite being free on gamepass, less than 10% users even bothered to download, making them unable to inflate the numbers further.

zoomer lingo

Kill yourself

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Holy fuck this board is shit. First you post that analytics site no one has ever heard of before, now you post this blog no one has heard of before like it's fact. Are you just shilling your own shit?

It happens more and more to me these days, especially for AAA (or at least 90% of them).

I think there's a misconception here. Microsoft rarely pays for day 1 AAA 3rd parties, only AA and old games so they aren't dropping hundreds of millions to get asscreed or monster hunter day 1. Only small titles like E33 that benefit from the exposure and money. Only 1st party AAA games are day 1 like Doom.

It didn't sell well cus Eternal

Anon Babbleeddit is brain dead

same, i feel like ive developed a 6th sense for shit videogames based on the smallest amount of information

Thank You

3 MILLION

Stupis Ass Rubes who Bought Game Ripoff Pass

A little tease of what happens when you price your games $80 when you aren't Nintendo first party games or GTA

Judging games by their character designs shouldn't be a perfect way to judge an entire game's quality, but for some reason it hasn't steered me wrong even once.

Who the fuck are they trying to SELL it to? People can't afford the ridiculous hardware prices to upgrade their computers and there are so many games available that you don't fucking need to.

I've been meaning to upgrade for ages, I am still on DDR4 and I have a 3 year old mid budget radeon card that I grabbed because my old gpu died. It was supposed to keep me going until I upgraded my pc from this frankenstein of parts I have. I waited for the current gen of cpu and gpu before committing and logicalincrement's "Great" tier is a fucking $1100 party (including case and fans etc).
The last time I bought a whole computer I paid $600 for fucks sake

Doom (the 2016 reboot) was on sale recently for 2 bucks and I was tempted to buy it but decided not to
Looks like I made the right choice~

2+ mill on steam alone

Anon, those estimations are always wrong

The probably didn't even buy it for Doom since two bigger titles just came out on there.

Jokes on you, 2016 is the good one.

I could see you being right, because they just wanted to go with "3.3 million sales after 33 days for Expedition 33".

I think its because all woke people are the same and have zero creativity.
I mean all sony exclusives with a white male "lead" have nearly the exact same woke scene beat by beat where they get overpowered by some strong wyman at least once.

Parryfags LOST

Notice how when a game actually sells they have absolutely no problems saying "copies sold" (E33) and not corpo kike language like "players" (Shadows/Doom)

Doom 2016 is amazing. I beat it like 6 times and I almost never replay games more then twice.
This is coming form someone who didn't like Eternal and skipped the newest one all together.

Nice pc market faggot phil lmao

20m joiners

So all of Anon Babble's criticism of this game basically boils down to: 'im too poor for a good gaming rig'.

Lmfao.

Doom Eternal is a great success for Microsoft. Lots of people bought Gamepass because of it.
Oh, the sales? They'll just can the studio to make up for it.

Yes, the meme about having a shitbox worse than the series s was true all along

at least MetaDoom is epic

Price and the fact you can have this game for basically free with gamepass.

Games like Doom keep people subscribed to it.

Do they?

But that doesn't apply to E33's sales because?

The answer is right there, people simply aren't interested in the game, Gamepass or not.

it's probably a combination of games pass and the price increase desu

They should have brought Hexen back from the dead.

Yeah, 17 million more joiners than Doom.

People are shitting on its gameplay so much it feels like visiting India. Don't lie.

Yeah I think the game is great, but it came with my gpu, so I had no expectations.

What is this simon says bullshit???

it was only an AAA game from a popular franchise, what do you expect? i mean if only they spent a few hundred million dollars more, it would be a total hit, im telling you.
those pesky AA studios are destroying AAA market, we gotta do something about it!

Even Nintendo is getting shit for it and you'd think they'd be the sole company that could get away with it. Lots of people that have been playing Nintendo games since childhood are gonna skip the switch 2 cause of how retarded the 80-90 dollars games model is.

I'm gonna be honest with you, the fact that between this and the AC Shadows "sales" that all of these "analysts" trying to make breakdowns of games, frequently of ones already available on subscription services, but can't even be within the ballpark of each other's estimates is leading me to believe that it's all just vgchartz-tier asspull nonsense but "bro I have a Linkedin account I'm a real anal list I'm not just some moron on twitter."
If any of this was real this would've been the easiest thing to corroborate. As it is, it just feels like you morons spreading any news of "flops," real or otherwise, because internet drama is the only thing you faggots care about.

I don't care about dark ages (it's a shit game) but i find it weirdly funny how these journalists are putting negative press about the game rightfully flopping compared to AC shadows where they parading how it broke series records

I don't see why it shouldn't work. What character designs a developer likes/approves of tells you a lot about their tastes in general.

I don't understand how fully engorged on corporate semen you have to be to go to bat for them with the "ur poor" defense against valid criticism. It's like a satire of a lobbyist.

The "sales numbers" being referenced by OP are just an estimate so I'm inclined to agree with you in this case. Bethesda probably won't ever release the actual numbers unless it experiences a rebound.

Maybe I'm just a victim of decades worth of "don't judge a book by its cover"-propaganda.

The "if the sales were good they would be bragging about them" method hasn't failed me yet.

we reached over 3 million users mr investor

Developers still not planning around the game pass drop

Their fault, not ours. And it was dumb as fuck for Microsoft to put this out less than a month after Oblivion Remaster.

I think nintendo is going to get fucked by it too. You could argue they already have. $70 totk has sold about 2/3 the copies of $60 botw. Certainly there are other confounding variables there. But I don't believe they're immune to people passing on games due to price.

STAND

not planning around the game pass drop

That's not a thing. Just an excuse for bad games.

if this ai generated blog says so then it must be true

Why don't they just delay the game pass release by a month seems like a no brainer win win. Like movies. You get a month of big screen (full price) exclusivity then later on you get the home release/rental

This looks as patronizing as a wii era nintendo game.

That would piss off their established gamepass subscribers. Even if they don't like doom when they hear day 1 releases will no longer be they'll just drop gamepass or lower their tier

That was always just a misapplied metaphor. It was supposed to be about people and judging them based on their character rather than their appearance. You can absolutely judge books by their covers. That's the whole point of the cover art.

dark ages was fun just not as fun as eternal

Bethesda literally completed with themselves and shot themselves in the foot. A $50 100+ hour fantasy adventure vs an $80/10 hour shooter is just value v value I personally wouldn't spend a cent more than $40 for a game like Doom

Salesfags and paternfags were right once again

Imagine my shovk

I guess Ninja Gaiden 4 is doomed either. Pun intended

Xchads can't stop winning

They really ran that paper thin brand recognition into the ground. Maybe now some of you morons will get your wish and they'll slap the Quake name on their next focus-tested engagement bait arena shooter with gimmick mechanics and no real level design to speak of.
And you'll say you love it because "omg Quack Six!!!!"

Id is not microsoft you retard. Id doesn't magically get microsoft revenue because they're one of the 7 gazillion studios microsoft owns as a shitty mega publisher

I guess it is "fine" for DOOM as they are owned by microsoft, but any 3rd party publisher on the platform? Gay Pass is nothing. You don't get paid based on people playing your game. You get a lump sum to put it on there. I reiterate that for DOOM they are Microsoft owned so if they think the Gay Pass performance was acceptable the studio won't be shuttered, but for anyone else that is a disaster.

Compare the OP's image to all the Clair Obscur posts and see where there's a difference.

Because the game was good and so it sold 3 million copies outside of the gamepass user sphere. There's probably another 3 million players on gamepass as well

It's because it just looked very boring. That's why I didn't get it. I play Doom to zoom around and shoot shit with a crazy shotgun, I don't give a fuck about parryslop and it has no place in Doom of all things.

tall

white

blue eyes

brown hair

The superior chadness of the Master Chief can't go uncontested in this image. Le Slayer can't compete. The Weapon is also cute and hot for a 2020 game, shocking. How did they get away with this?

Good riddance, no more adhd doomslop for the foreseeable future

should've made doom 3 sequel to break gaming

Doomfags will finally stop comparing Doom to Metroid and Halo

Feels good

812,454. There you go, you can stop pissing your pants now.

they made him a swarthy brown kike with a huge nose in live action

slayer is literally all of that, just without the blue eyes and buffer

That shit was non-canon, doesn't affect game Chief plus it flopped so that's even better.

I bet you everything you want that Dark Ages was a real-life size test for 80 bucks games.
They were checking the impact 80 price point has when the game is coupled with game pass.

They fold XBL Gold user into the 30 million, they don't report actual profit yadda yadda. Their own internal documets leaked during the trials say they need 100 million users to make it profitable and it is not growing.
The backbone of the userbase is the Xbox console users who are leaving the system as MS told them they don't need an Xbox.
Price hikes and the YoY percentage barely moved.

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I don't get it, how did doom flop? It's really simple you just have a cool guy who kills demons and people eat it u-

arena shooter

arena shooters are multiplayer games
so yes i want a new quake
youtube.com/watch?v=owpHC4Pg550&ab_channel=MAKOtheMagnificentRabbit

Game its shit too nobody with a brain would think that retarded enemy projectiles to parry being worse than first doom wasnt a redflag

no one likes saying that
old gay rule

YOU CANT DEFEAT ME SLYAH WITH MY ANCIENT ESOTERIC CHULTHIAN JUTSU PILLARS OF PARRYtm

I though the game was amazing and I really liked it.
No way I'm paying for 80 bucks though, so I just bough one month of GP to play it.

game is dogshit, new players dont care

but it also shits on a older titles legacy, fans dont care

whoa

b-but it has parrying mechanic and epic avengers theme how could it not sell !?

fuck you

With the new mario kart? i doubt it

can people stop pretending anyone uses game pass. almost nobody I know uses it.

Play 10 minutes on Game Pass

Uninstall

Count me as 10 players

THANK YOU

lol...

This looks so dumb holy fuck lol

game not on disc

surprise it sells like shit

Why are people acting like this wasn't going to be the logical result?

Only Xbox console retards uses it and that number continues to go down. Microsoft's next gen is in 2027, didn't Phil say Microsoft was pulling the plug on Game Pass on that exact year?

Everyone doubting this hasn't been in the weeds on the MAU/DAU metric scamming since Web 2.0 went live. I fucking know for certain that they're counting pirated copies, re-installs, multiple device instances, IP reassignments, family share, etc. in their "PLAYERS" metric. They absolutely are. That's the same scam social network companies have been pulling since 2007 and those same people now work at Microsoft. They got away with it for years, and when caught got no punishment of note, and so they're right back at it.

I’m so confused by the amount of hate this game has got and how poorly it has sold. It’s really good and the most fun I’ve had in ages. After being disappointed by MH Wilds and Expedition 33 this game nails it by being all about gameplay. Yes the story is dog shit but it doesn’t invade your gameplay as egregiously as E33 and MH Wilds do.

That's not Bethesda's call, it's up to MS now.

Doom is a dead franchise, doomSLAYA cant carry a franchise
If you liked Eternal youd be disappointed to find its not Eternal 2.
If you didnt like Eternal you probably wanted a return to form, not further marvelization with a hyperviolent Captain America Sim where you move about as fast as a Walmart fatguy scooter
Hugo is also clearly too big in his boots thinking people give a shit about Dooms faggy gnostic "Lore". Its also really fuckin brown
Its like 5 dimensions of I dont fucking care

Are you having a blast, too?
Is this a return to form for Bethesda?

price

ray tracing requirement

was hit or miss with its own fanbase that did actually play it

Don't make a shit game next time.

Put on Games pass during the start of a recession

Sold for 70 bucks, at the start of a recession

Sold right between two other, cheaper releases, both of which are on Games Pass

Marketting was all about how they slowed down the game and made it like Dark Souls. A divisive game which a lot of people didn't even like, even those that beat it

I mean, what the fuck were they expecting? Doom just isn't Dark Souls and even when trying to do it, they apparently don't even know what people like about Dark Souls or even how it actually plays. Enemies aren't aggressive enough, you are expected to block and parry every attack. The single greatest tactic of the game is using parry to liter the battlefield with health pick ups, just in case you fuck up, because you are made of paper machee. I thought we are supposed to be a tank in this game? It certainly doesn't feel like it. Hugo is a man of buzzwords. Someone that obviously got very lucky with the last two games and doesn't know what is actually great.

Im not an Eternal fan, but its very archaic that Doom would take Eternal and move into this slowed down sludgy parry gameplay after Ultrakill has already somehow prebridged both parry and high speed gameplay.
Also appealing to "//ETAL RIP AND TEAR" is fucking gay

The problem with le Doom Slayer is that he just isn't him

Yup, I saw her and lost all interest.
She's not, but the game tries to act like everything depends on her and that if she can access the Wraith powers for herself, she will turn the tide. That this power is great enough to even bring the Slayer to his knees. Then she uses it for all of a few minutes at the end after she gets freed from the big bad and you are expected to be in awe. It's hilariously bad and almost obvious how many re-writes this shit went through.

I hate to agree but yeah.
Doomguy worked when he was doomguy for his time but he didnt really have character
Master Chief kind of stole doomguy and a space marine and also added personality
Taking Doomguy and making him Knockoff masterchief/john wick but also leaning into GRRR IM ANGRY AND I TALK ONE TIME PER GAME AS PER MY CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION is lame, he can either exist as a character or a blank avatar for the player, but he cant really be both