What went so incredibly right?
Now that the dust has settled
Watch out! This makes the turn-based cultist seethe.
shelf frisbees moved from one place to another and PS+ claims!
Very cool!
Worst remake ever. They totally botched the scene where he kills the florist. It ruined the whole game.
Shipped
still dies
nothing changes
ruined
Imagine being this retarded.
I like the part where they bundled parts 1 and 2 together to obfuscate how much worse Rebirth did.
It's just remake and its DLC though?
This is only Part 1. Intergrade is the PS5 and PC version of Remake.
Don't show this to E33 pajeets they might get a heart attack
They killed all the suspense and drama out of it. They turned gaming's most iconic scene into a boring shitshow. It killed the vibe.
between 4 and 5 million people played remake and were so turned off that they never touched rebirth
holy shit...
what the fuck is "Intergrade"? not even a real english word
im sick of these FF7 cashgrabs. can i play the full game or not? do i have to pay $60 3 times just to play this again? how many hours of gameplay is it so far?
Oh no, don't let the E33 baguette trannies see this
Shipped
Oh no no no no
Intergrade is the PS5 and PC version of Remake.
AND soon to be Switch 2 version. :)
Intergrade is just 7 Remake + Yuffie DLC + graphical enhancements
shipped and sold
what does this even mean
isn't every copy that you ship a "sold" one
does every store phone back that you sold a copy that they got shipped to them?
2023
It should be over 10 millions at this point
It just doesn't FEEL right, you know?
I looks the same?
left looks like night time vs day time
right looks day time but under shadows, as it should
shipped
So they're still too chicken shit to be upfront on how much it actually sold huh?
Haven't tried it yet.
I'll get it for the switch 2.
If everything was a carbon copy, then there would be no reason to play it.
Gaming is such a niche hobby we only got around 20 million actual gamers and its 10% of that population telling the rest we can't say gamer words. Weird isn't it? Almost like there's a conspiracy.
shipped AND sold
Ouch...
FF7R is probably at 10 million sales by now and will be catapulted even further when the Switch 2 version releases. This makes it the second best selling Final Fantasy title after only 5 years. SE did everything right.
don't worry, S-E refuses to let anyone know how much Rebirth sold
SE did everything right.
Is that why no one came back for Redditbirth?
FF7R is probably at 10 million sales by now
That's a milestone worth announcing.
Instead of literally nothing and calling rebirth a flop.
Redditbirth
explain this meme I still don't get it
and yet they still haven't updated the sales milestone despite Automata getting constant updates
Now that the dust has settled
the dust never settles with this game
Square doesnt do that.
despite Automata getting constant updates
This usually happens when something happens with nier franchise.
Square doesnt do that.
Yet they HAD to show some random 7 million sales number.
over 7M
6 million in Japan
what a win.
Why the fuck did FF4 take off so much?
Yet they HAD to show some random 7 million sales number.
that was for the ff7 anniversary stream where they showed crisis core and rebirth first look you moron
FF sales dropped off hard after FFX
I am not surprised at all that SE dropped turn-based combat for their flagship series.
As has been stated many times before, turn-based fans only have themselves to blame, that FF isn't turn-based anymore.
Flopped and sucked. 3.5 each for the biggest JRPG ever is hardly something to brag about. Trash like XIII and XV did better.
Wtf Tifa is a Shinra spy?!?!
x has turn based combat
sells well
release the shitfest that is xii
sales drop
games only get worse from then on
xv is probably their biggest money sink and cancelled most of what they said they'd release for it
Yes.
to understand how far FF has fallen, Monster Hunter World alone has sold over 20 million. which were the numbers SE must have expected when they considered splitting FF7 into three parts. even with all three games combined it's unlikely the trilogy will ever get there
I literally posted a long running example of them doing so
or did you mean "for games that don't sell"?
glad I'm not the only one that noticed this.
salesfag
Maybe you should learn to enjoy games for the game itself.
FFVI didn't even outsell FFX-2 and XII. But one can tell how desperate you are.
FF6fags btfo
Nice so the most anticipated and requested remaster of all time as a trilogy can maybe hit Elden Ring numbers
30 million sales
nope.
Elden Ring
dead brand
What went so incredibly right?
they made tifas chest smaller, which is a big W for current day gaming
Retard
better than e33
x sold well on the back of the ps2 era. it started pretty much all the trends that ground ff down to its current state.
Selling at a faster pace than the original?
Yet xii was completely different and THAT one is the reason people didn't bother anymore.
More gamers more buyers also keeping it relevant with a million sequels was genius kek
Elena got so much needed screentime, but i feel like this was due to reno VA dying
Your argument is moot, because sales already dropped off hard starting with X-2.
Yuffie DLC > Remake > Rebirth
7 million between 2 games after years and discounts
shipped
imagine telling people 15 years ago that a HD remake of FF7 would sell less than 10 million copies on its first year.
the game in the console with 50 million units sold a game slightly less the the games on the console with 120 million units sold
Square Enix sales board when?
side game/sequel with EXTREMELY effeminate look
Now check mainline again.
XVI is the second best selling game in the series btw.
techraptor.net
That's less than FFV
Can't wait for part 3.
Rebirth was so much fun
It should be over 10 millions at this point
Yes.
Sales also really picked up when Rebirth was released. It will happen again once the trilogy is complete.
Shipped
For both games sales combined, and this isn't taking into account 10-15 years of marketing basically
Happy Turtle fanboy?
Remake and Remake Intergrade are the same game, bruh.
Remake = Part 1
Remake Intergrade = Part 1 + DLC + graphical enhancements
Rebirth = Part 2
Would have sold 14 million with turn based combat
Why would you lie to me like this
yet another Final Fantasy VII Demake thread attempting to remain relevant in the face of the total cancer that is the excessive shilling of E33 currently happening on this board
All of it is just so tiresome
I have much doubt.
If you see this chart You will see this gentleman is actually lowballing it.
FF7, as a turn based game, as the "fun thing of the webm", sold 18 million
What went so incredibly right?
not many things honestly
Mogged and completely forgotten because of a western studio making a passion project with 1/4 the budget
n-notice me too guys
no
meant for The OP was chosen directly to compete with the 3.3m sales threads that the E33 shills are spamming.
shipped
you're trying too hard kid
7 million copies of Remake are sitting in Amazon and Walmart warehouses
Holy cope. Will turn-based cultists ever recover?
two FF7 games sell 7kk copies across a couple of years, that's 3.5kk per game
E33 sells 3.3kk in a month + who knows how many Gay Pass players
n-notice me too guys
I can't believe releasing the same game on PS5 doubled their sales! That's impressive :^)
The turn based FF7 sold almost 3 times that.
FF7 didn't sell 21 million copies within 3 years.
Yes it did. It sold it in 3 seconds actually.
Indeed it didn't, but it's at 19 million right now.
Do you think really think FF7R will reach 19 million?
Yes it did. It sold it in 3 seconds actually.
Factually incorrect.
21 million copies of OG FF7 were sold within 2.2 seconds of release. This is because it is a turn-based game and was blessed by the turn-based combat gods. Remake didn't sell as well, because the real-time combat gods aren't based.
Nta but why you guys always lying about the numbers lol
14.4 million as a year and a half ago
Actually checking etc. it indeed seems to be the case.
But FF7R is still under, and i bet square could make more 5mi out of the original FF7
Not turn based ;/
Holy shit
33shills BTFO
i would have bought the game 100x over if they just kept her shorts unzipped
I'm not even trying at all though. It's incredibly obvious. Someone a few days ago made an OP with Aerith in Sciel's outfit as well. Final Fantasy VII Remake fans are really struggling with E33's success.
a nooticer are we, how cute
I would assume both games continue to sell over time, don't see why not
Remake could receive a little boost pending completion, though since it's leaning more towards a reimagining so who knows how it lasts over time
Isn't it funny how the same turn-based cultists that claimed FF7R is a flop, although 3.5 million copies were sold in 3 days, are praising E33 for 3.3 million sales in over a month?
Now post Rebirth sales
FF7 Remake had a nearly 2 decade long hype train driving initial sales. How much did FF7 Rebirth sell in one month in comparison?
This is gonna be funny too when they decide to announce sales, probably when they reveal part 3
SIR! Delete this right now bloody bastard bitch! RIGHT NOW PLEASE!!!!
This is so sad. I don't know how anybody can look at this and then claim that the kids want turn-based Final Fantasy. The kids wanted to play GTA, Elder Scrolls and the Witcher.
8 outsells lightning returns, FF, FF Type-0, FFXI, FFII, FFXIII-2, FFV, FFIII, FFVII Remake, FFIX, FFVII spinoffs, FFX-2, FFXII, and FFXIII
what went so right?
Being the next game after FF7 lmao
Shipped means sold to retailers.
Anyway, you had best get your copy of Rebirth soon if you want it in physical form, FF bros. The game is almost sold out.
you're right, but after 20+ years people finally seem to appreciate it for what it is instead of hating on it for not being FFVII-2
aaaaaaaahahahahahaha their $7,000,000 game only sold 3.3 million copies, that's MUCH worse than the 7 million shipped* copies of our $200,000,000 game
One of the most iconic scenes in gaming and cinema
Took out the suspense and drama
How the fuck you gonna be surprised by something that's over 25 years old? That's like being pissed about a remake of Citizen Kane changing the name of the wagon and not hearing "rosebud" at the end and demanding the "surprise" is put back in when you wont' be surprised at all.
You 1:1 gooners are insufferable.
bunch of depressed losers that love turn based go for a game of existential dread and depression where character development is non-existent in favor of pushing a batshit stupid bait and switch narrative
Gee I wonder why it sold so well
It all went downhill when we entered the PS2 era.
I am honestly surprised that Squeenix embraced turn-based for another 15 years after Final Fantasy X, although nobody was buying the games anymore. I honestly think that hurt the brand more than Final Fantasy XV ever could.
players
shipped
this has to stop
NTA, I'm less irritated by those small changes and more irritated by the whole "it's not a remake it's actually a multiverse sequel" bullshit. FFVII is clunky and old, it looks and runs like shit. I'm okay with them changing the combat and some story beats but I don't know why nomura had to change the actual plot to be some retarded Kingdom Hearts 2.8.1a Chain of UnMemories UHD Remix bullshit. Just take the old plot and tell that. I lost all interest when I saw they were making significant changes.
shipped
FINAL FANTASY BROS
WE LOST
How old is this game again?
While I understand there are plenty of emotionally stunted and yet-to-have-matured individuals out there I still have to ask "so what"?
What would there have been to gain if they made everything beat by beat and step by step just like the original but "better graphics"? That says more to me that you don't care about the story and the characters at all and just want to be fed updated and pretty slop.
It'll be disappointing, sure, if the third installment still doubles down on Sephiroth being the main villain and not Jenova, as that will solidify that Square has been retarded at storytelling for literally the last 25 years, but even then how that fucknut I responded to thought the end of Rebirth took out all the tension at "that scene" thinks that way is beyond me. That scene was tense as hell because they actively MADE you think it could be up in the air as to what happens.
Came out in 1997. Can you believe they managed to create this back in those days?
What would there have been to gain if they made everything beat by beat and step by step just like the original but "better graphics"?
I didn't play the original on release and it looks/plays like an old game. It'd be neat to play the "same" game but with better graphics and story, considering that every game/movie for FFVII looks and sounds significantly different compared to the original.
This is missing the sales from the X/X-2 remaster. Google says FFX and X-2 together have sold over 20 mil.
1K bought in the past month
Rebirth continues to sell very well over one year later. Impressive.
I think it is safe to say that SE will follow the Rebirth formula for Final Fantasy XVII, obviously with some tweaks like improved exploration and itemization.
but with better graphics and story
story
So you want them to not change anything about the story, but also change the story?
For part 1? No one knew it wasn't a dogshit "remake" yet. Fortunately once they did the next part flopped.
Sephiroth's design is so objectively retarded
Gigantic football pads
ass-length hair
enough leather to supply the folsom street fair
walking with a slow limp
ten foot long katana
If this is true why did it go on to sell another 4 milly after the cat was out of the bag
What would there have been to gain if they made everything beat by beat and step by step just like the original but "better graphics"
If you have a coherent and developed vision for how you want a scene to be portrayed you can equal or even surpass an iconic original version. For Rebirth though what we got was a mess of different versions of events culminating in Aerith dying but not actually being dead so there's no cathartic release, just a hollow feeling of "uhh what's supposed to happen now?"
That scene was tense as hell because they actively MADE you think it could be up in the air as to what happens
and then it resolves and people all over the internet say the scene was ruined
Just the Darth Vader of video games ain't he
Meanwhile Nier Automata averaged around 1 million per year sold which is a little over 80 thousand a month. 1/80th of that is far from impressive IMO
post amazon sales for this month then hotshot
Why? S-E themselves verified Automata's sales over its lifetime
yeah I freakin' thought so poser ass bitch
poser ass bitch
My claim points out 9 million sales while yours is about just 1 thousand
you can't even meet my hustle and you think you got the bustle??
you can't even meet my hustle
I've exceeded it exponentially, about 9,000 times
you've exceeded nothing but your own boasts bitch
which means everything considering we're making claims
1/80th of that
Rebirth isn't sold exclusively on Amazon and exclusively in the USA, so your argumentation makes no sense.
Not to mention that Nier has been on sales numerous times for just $15. Rebirth costs $65 on Amazon.
yeah we back here huh you just of all kindsa shit
Rebirth isn't sold exclusively on Amazon and exclusively in the USA
And neither is Automata so the only bad data point is the Amazon one
Nier has been on sales numerous times for just $15
Maybe Rebirth needs to drop its price to sub $20, maybe then S-E wouldn't be ashamed to let people know how much it sold
still won't post this months amazon numbers
baby bitch calling the bitch a baby
after the cat was out of the bag
It wasn't for a lot of people.
And neither is Automata so the only bad data point is the Amazon one
Extrapolation is apparently a completely foreign concept to you.
maybe then S-E wouldn't be ashamed
Ahh, there it is. I was wondering why you argue like 5th grader.
I'll post the Amazon numbers once you post S-E's own Rebirth sales numbers
we need to gas final fantasy 7 fans, just gooners and homos
dodged with all the grace of a fat fucking cow, you learn that from your mother?
SE will post sales figures once 7 million copies of Rebirth have been sold.
Extrapolation is apparently a completely foreign concept to you
Explain how Nier Automata averaged 1 million in sales per year if it wasn't making more than 1 thousand sales per month
Ahh, there it is
If they're not ashamed why don't they update the sales milestone then? They've done it numerous times for Automata.
still won't post Rebirth's numbers
baby bitch calling the bitch a baby
That scene was tense as hell because they actively MADE you think it could be up in the air as to what happens.
ITT: redditbirth troons fascinated by keys jangling narrative retardation
kys nigger, less is more and the formula was perfect in the OG. Dont take my word for it: watch how the shitmakes will have ZERO cultural impact 5 years from now, except to mock Squeenix when they get buttfucked by tencent or somesuch
You are a pure retard.
quit gargling my cum that's nasty
Nice buzzwords let's see how many of them will persist in your vocabulary in those 5 years.
i.e. they're too embarrassed to let people know how much it sold until then
i.e. we'll never know how much it actually sold
ran out of arguments
my cum nasty
lmao
too bad you will have 41% yourself by then kek
you lost before this began lil sis
says the guy who started talking about cum
GOAT
you the one slurping it up off the floor freak
still talking about cum
Barry still having a melty over FF7?
damn that one really set ya off huh
Again, you're the one that started and continues to talk about it
Got any other arguments to put forth or is this all you got?
Barry doesn't despise Remake and Rebirth.
It is somebody else.
Ho my bad
Must be the exp33 schizo
yeah you know you been beaten go on and run with your tail between your legs BITCH
the ff15 dude? lmaoo you dumb as hell he SEETHES at this shit
yeah you know you been beaten
I'm not the one who stopped making arguments though. Thanks for vindicating me in any case.
you still tryna dodge and it ain't workin
I'm right here. What's the claim I'm dodging?
you forgot huh how fucken convenient is that
So no claim? Got it.
I ain't your daddy I don't gotta tell ya shit
I don't gotta tell ya shit
You not having anything to say vindicates me so thanks
damn you keep talking about vindications what crime you commit
the crime of unabashedly demolishing a child in a debate
learn the history, this shit is before your time
oh lil sis' boasts are back
oh lil sis' boasts are back
I give what I get. If you have an actual point to make I'm all ears.
quit askin me to poke ya ugly bitch
Bizarre projection but unsurprising since you aren't able to handle a focused conversation
damn if I didn't know any better I'd think you loevd me
That's just the projection talking. If you honestly aren't projecting you should be able to drop comms right here and now. But we all know you won't.
nah fuck the projects I left that shit behind fuck you
proves me right once again
provides possible evidence that behavior is based on past trauma
Anything else you feel the need to get off your chest?
armchair ass psychatrist lmao kys
you can stop this conversation at any time by not responding
keep telling yourself that you know you can't stop
and you can?
anytime
prove it
don't gotta prove shit to you
Correct, you don't, but that just vindicates me.
vindicate this whore
don't have to, you're doing it for me
whatever helps ya sleep
I notice you're staying up tho
motherfucker it's the afternoon
shipped and sold
can we see just the sales numbers please?
it's a metaphor
no this is an ff7 thread
If it were you'd be talking about FF7
have been this whole damn time
you aren't right now
oh yeah?
yep, just did it again
How many has Crisis Core sold?
You could probably get around 150 hours out of the pair combined so far, if you did all the side stuff.
what the fuck is "Intergrade"? not even a real english word
Yes it is.
how many hours of gameplay is it so far?
About 130 hours on average. Obviously much longer for completionists.
I hope this plays when they parachute back into Midgar in Part 3.
I can hardly wait to just zoom around in the Highwind.
A paragliding mini-game would also be awesome.
You just spoiled the game for me you fucking asshole
"You don't care about the story and characters if you want the story to be told properly."
I swear to fuck some of you retards just come on here looking to argue over anything.
probably
is that it? is that all you have?
"it's not a remake it's actually a multiverse sequel"
but its not that.
Its a remake.
Is 10 million not enough or something?
7M
That's it? Isn't this supposed to be a remake of one of the most popular games of all time? Elden Ring has 20M+ sales.
If it was carbon copy with the combat as it is, it would legit be the greatest game of all time.
If they told the exact same story, then there would be no suspense.
Anyway, there apparently isn't a multiverse. There is just some back to the future timeline fuckery going on.
i liked rebirth and remake. Yes there are flaws and some side quests in rebirth suck (while 90% of the sidequests in remake suck), but the combat is good, the characters are fleshed out and all of them are absolutely likeable. One thing most people don't understand when they complain about this remake by saying "but Sephiroth's appearance was more subtle! They're killing the mystery" it's clear to me that they're trying to create another mystery, another plot point. It's not a 1:1 remake. It takes a lot of liberties. And in theory i think that this idea is crap, but in reality i'm actually interested in what's going to happen. I already know the plot of the original game, now i'm experiencing the same game with another flavor. Yes there are some scenes that didn't go as i imagined in my head, like the plate fall in remake, but overall they did a great job with most of the scenes. It's their vision and i respect that