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I have no idea how beat em ups even survived the arcade era. What a fucking terrible genre.

Beat em ups are an entirely different genre though
And the first "character action" was actually based on resident evil

character action games are literally 3d beat em ups thoughever

beat 'em ups are boring as hell. don't associate them with proper cuhrayzee games, please.

genrefagging is always wrong
you don't need a perfect definition to understand a genre. If you need a flowchart to understand something, you don't actually understand it

I don't care about semantics, I know that people mean stuff like DMC, Bayonetta, Ninja Gaiden and other similar games when they use the term. This is like the retards arguing over Metroidvania. The colloquial meaning is what you actually use.

I'm pedantic

ftfy

Is there a good modern 3D beat em up? I wanna beat people up

god hand

It being 3d makes it not a beat-em-up anymore. Words have meanings. You wouldn't call Gears of War a "first person shooter" just because you shoot people in it.

As good as god hand is, if nothing that closely competes with it has come out in 19 fucking years I think that's the most damning indictment of the gaming industry that anyone could possibly present.

are beat-em-ups not a console centric genre?

I just like games with parrying and cool boss fights.

there are plenty of modern games that are like god hand, but by definition are charcater action games and not beatemups because they have swords and stuff

it's not a beat em up because your not literally beating them up with your firsts

As long as its a melee close quarters attack, it counts

sure it is there's a scoped weapon

My bad, you're right. Anyway I'm gonna go play some fighting games. I was thinking Dragon's Dogma. Or maybe I can play a little RTS, I've been meaning to try out Project Zomboid.

Nah I agree with the other anon it's not a beat em up if you're using a halberd or some shit

swords and other melee weapons don't force it out of the beat em up genre

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yes they do, golden axe is just a 2d character action game

I think it hinges on which is your primary weapon. Something like streets of rage where you mostly use hand to hand but can pick up knives, pipes etc is a beat 'em up because that's 99% of what you do, you beat people up. If your character has a weapon by default, I don't think that's a beat 'em up anymore.

so you think it's literally a difference in sprites and hitboxes?
and not, say, an intricate combat systems allowing for multiple styles of attack while simultaneously being able to do things that lesser games would only let you do in a cinema?

character action

As opposed to what? Setting action? Plot action?

back to Anon Babble with ye

why are there 3rd person shooters but no 2nd person shooters?

Are you referring to Devil May Cry? Genuinely asking.

They just mean dmc3-like
Yeah, literally just that

Sure, multiple styles of attack doesn't really define a beat 'em up. There were plenty of arcade ones back in the day where you had like, 2 buttons and only a 3 or 4 hit combo but it's still a beat 'em up. Intricacy doesn't define the genre, I don't think at least.

I believe sifu is the one if you are looking for specifically modern beat em ups
But there is also whole yakuza series except two games

Yeah I've got sifu, zeno clash, midnight fight express, absolver, many beat em ups. I like beat em ups.

The genre developed into parryslop, it is correct to ignore everything that is not DMC

Would you consider counters in god hand as parries?
I know it's them done good, but doing something while enemy is attacking was always there u fag

You might have to branch out to musou games at this point

I don't hate parries, I hate how MGR and Sekiro and Wo Long wholly revolve around them.

I do like those. The new dynasty warriors looks really good but it's over a hundred dollarydoos so I'm waiting for it to get cheaper. Maybe christmas.

I believe those to be their own sub genre of action games
Nobody makes beat em ups and ""character action"" games in general, so you just get blinded by three games
Dmc5 is how old again? And platinum is fucking dead

That poosoyna strikers game is sursprisingly fun btw, you can skip story honestly, gameplay is pretty good

precisely. That was a description of character action gameplay

i only play protagonist activity amusements

I'm sure it's more than 3 games (Rise of the Ronin, Furi come to mind)
If NG4 ends up like that it's over for action games

Normal people and especially devs back then didn't care about forced labels that much.

first "character action" was actually based on resident evil

I never knew that Rising Zan was based on resident evil.

cuhrayzee games

Easy games where you have a plethora of options and the sandbag enemies are no threat? "Labbing simulators" can at best be considered a subgenre.

interesting, I'll check it out

meant for
I gotta go to bed I'm clickin on the wrong fuckin posts over here

Sifu

Original beat-em-ups were like sidescrolling Street Fighter 2 with a slight vertical element where you could go up and down the floor.
So it's fair to say that a 3D game that feels kinda like a fighting game but is all PvE and moving is a 3D beat-em-up

that it's over for action games

good riddance
this genre deserves to die