I just beat Sacred Stones on Hard mode for the first time and Eirika swept almost the whole game for me alongside...

I just beat Sacred Stones on Hard mode for the first time and Eirika swept almost the whole game for me alongside Seth. Why do people say she's a bad unit?

falcoknight vanessa is better

Why do people say she's a bad unit?

because she starts with 4 str
the truth is she's the second strongest GBA lord after ephraim, especially once she gets sieglinde

Hector actually tanking things mogs her.

It's not uncommon for her to get noodle arms, or so I'm told. She had noodle arms for me. It's just part of the rng stays system.

There are no bad units in Sacred Stones. Just units that are worse than others. In Eirika's case, she's sword locked, deals lsss damage, and is more frail than other units. But, again, Sacred Stone is piss easy so she's not bad.

shut up eirikeks, it's our time

better dark mage than odin in conquest

rev doesn't matter because you can grind anyway

her gimmick in the gacha is so good that the newest bullshit unit apes it and everyone loses their minds, on top of him being an armor unit

nyx is the best unit in her games and you can't argue otherwise

eirika supports seth very quickly and can always stay near him so she's actually pretty good

Hector is better than Ephraim. By the time Hector falls off and Ephraim promotes, the rest of your army will perform just as well if not better.

Bro youre really telling me that amelia is worth anything you fucking retard?

ephraim can solo his entire game

When every enemy pretty much rolls over and dies, even on hard mode, sure. Do whatever you want. The fact that casuals think general Amelia, a unit that SHOULD be a bad unit, is actually good should tell you everything you need to know about this game's non-existent difficulty.

No one cares who you use in this game. Go bitch about unit viability in 7's HHM or Conquest instead.

Bro youre really telling me that amelia is worth anything you fucking retard?

I mean yes, she becomes the best unit in the game if you decide to babysit her
If you only care about efficiency it's obviously not worth it, but if you want to you can make her the best unit in the game.
Same thing with Marisa, you get her too late and underleveled and she's worse than Joshua, but she can still solo the Lagdou Ruins if you bother using her.

There is 0 reason to babysit a jobber like her when seth solos all game.

Bro it's fucking SS. the game is so piss easy literally any unit is viable lay off the metafag meds.

Hector can also solo that pathetically easy game. What's your point?

There is 0 reason

Favoritism
You can solo the game with any unit you invest into

unit solos game where enemies hardly even fight back

Noooooo, really?

if you used tower of valni you didn't beat the game

a unit with literal 0 stats can solo sacred stones bro!

Casuals think that jeigans are good.
And youre sucking them off?
If fe8 is so easy then whata the point of a unit who needs much training?
Nothing.
Stop pretending that your game is balanced faggot.

Ephraim could also oneround Hector through weapon triangle disadvantage with their stat averages at 20/20
And he has a horse
Ephraim completely mogs Hector in gameplay

I mean, do they have access to bishop or an effective weapon?

Eirika was literally made for sex slavery.

Ephraim could also oneround Hector through weapon triangle disadvantage with their stat averages at 20/20

show the math please

I wish i could see valter doing that.

sex slavery

that's the strangest way to spell incest i've ever seen

Casuals think that jeigans are good.

Abaolute poppycock. Casuals think Jagens are bad because they hog EXP and fall off earlier unlike Oifeys. They don't understand their merit in harder difficulties.

Stop fucking posting

i cant goon anymore brehs, i need a real femoid

How about you stop with your shit takes dipshit?

You're a fucking retard

caps do matter you retard !!

There is a mountain of evidence that says otherwise on shitter hives like serenesforest.

jagens are good

plays shadow dragon hard 5

jagen stops being viable in chapter 2

nice "early game unit" jagenkeks

Those guys are retarded wanna be elitists.

caps only matter in GBA and for unpromoted units in the other games

jagen is the 3rd/4th best character in hard 5

Anyone can become good in SS.
Eirika return from investment feels minute from my experience.

What would be the equivalent of this for sacred stones

ironman viability tier list made by the fire emblem genius and elites

would seth be SS tier
the trainees on D tier
and everyone else S tier????

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stop posting your dogshit list faggot

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the jokes write themselves

what's the joke

you

Perfect!!

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Put Vanessa in SS tier. She can use the Steel Blade as a Falcoknight

Looks good

IT SHOZLD GAVE BEEN ME!!!!!!!
NOT HIM!!!!!!
THATS NOT FAIR!!!

Conquest bros... we never beat our runs...

because on her route she acts like a dumb bitch and gives lyon the fucking stone what a dumb cunt omg

wish she had more strength
and 1-2 range
and better aid
wait a second...

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Ross can save turns and is used in high level play

That's your self-insert bwo

This but me and Dorothea femanon

I always thought this was a dumb take keep in mind she didnt see the same side of him her brother saw

We should do a conquest relay but we use excelemblem savefile with his capped azura and we start from branch of fate so we dont have to fucking do the first 7 chapters every time

Spoiler

It would've worked if she got the non-Demon King Lyon in her route. Too bad that he only exists for Ephraim route, causing a tragedy no matter the route.

that tier list is for ironmans

Ross can become a berserker instantly making him the most powerful unit in the game outside of the other berserker AND you have time, maps and lack of units to make babying him viable

Ranking Orson? Thats gay. Also Ross is good fuck you

is ross the eliwood of sacred stones

She is busy sucking off a white aryan millionaer anon...
You never stood achance

Eirika trusts others and is kind hearted.
Of course she would trust lyon.
You guys are just fucking retards

stealing a save file with a capped Azura

*

yes thats what i said, you need training wheels for conquest ironman

Take your meds bitch

Amazing no one made a mod to allow unlimited S ranks

bro your +5 str from sieglinde

Skill issue

orson is unironically better than a fifth of the cast

Deal!
I have never sucked a dick in my life

it's so BS. the only mod is the faggot mod.

Cause youre fat and ugky and a whore who just wants money

She's Lyn but not shit. Ephraim route really screws her over, though

I think your logic of "woman = slut" is flawed if the femanon has never engaged in sexual conduct

you dont need to have sex to be a slut
no i wont elaborate

Post a capped Orson then, let's see his endgame stats

He fucks corpses though so it lowers him down to D for dead

orson contirbutes more in a single chapter than ross in the whole game

Cute maids

obsessed not!sister

hot cousin-wife

Corrin is a lucky guy.

ye he is D
no
no, ross is above orson

Orson is better than Seth because Orson only steals exp from your lord in one chapter.

Marriage with Marianne!

He's decent but gets mogged by actual chad characters

Orson

54 / 22 / 18 / 17 / 08 / 17 / 13

Seth

47 / 24 / 22 / 21 / 18 / 19 / 14

Ephraim

55 / 27 / 26 / 24 / 26 / 21 / 16

technically had a dragon maid as well
too bad we didnt get to play with fish

why is there variance in unit performance in a game with randomized level ups

My Eirika got blessed, 20+ str by the end of the game, literally two-shot the boss with just her and Ephraim

posting max level stats for the unit that's around for 1 map

Still pretending that if it's not 20/20 it doesn't exist

you get him in creature campaign

nobody has ever played cr*ature campaign

I have because it has Ismaire

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you won the coinflip. eirika has a chance of botching her strength stat but sometimes she doesn't and is good.

your eirika looks fucking weird bro

creature campaign doesn't let you hammerne your hammerne for infinite weapons uses even after going through the trouble of keeping your first hammerne and doing lagdou thrice to recruit Lyon for your second

cringe campaign

Cutesythea

ya for all 20 uses

engage 2 soon

Bro? Your Hammerne?

thats for hatchet

Eirika Seth
Ephraim Tana
Lrachel Innes

eat shit

but enough about threesomes

why did he do it

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suicide is cool

because she starts with 4 str

this. meanwhile emphraim can use a iron lance and hit like a truck still. hes just far superior its not even a fair comparison of how bad she is.

raven and hector not at ss

retard. raven as a hero is unkillable and same with hector.

is fire emblem a sexist game?? why are all female lords absolute shit then you have alpha males like ike ephraim and hector

play hackrom

they make female units as good as male units

putting ross at the bottom when you have plenty of time to turn him into a berzerker without arena abuse

you didnt play the game did you? Ross can single handedly beat everything solo short of the ruins maybe.

>play hackrom

get bottom surgery

half of the time she doesn't get anchor arms so she hits for shit
Seth is just a walking god amongst mortals, he keeps his flesh wound just to prove that even while injured he's still better than everyone and everything else on the continent.

Why is her named spelled Eirika instead of Erika?

Did Erika really flash ford?

explain her then chud

He realized that he can't manipulate Kamui anymore by being alive.

Eirika has a solid strength growth for GBA standards. She just has a bad base which overshadows it.

all female lords are shit

The only bad one is Lyn.

Ah I see at last Corrin, your invasion force is murdering and raping my people for a just cause, I leave the rest to you

if hoshido retaliated then they'd be just like the nohrians

HONRABLE NIPPPON CAN DO NO WRONG

Reminder that we never see Erika underwear.

I do find it funny that the best females in the series are Wyverns (the more male leaning flying class), not Peg Knights (the all female flying class)
Minerva, Altena, Melady, Jill, Camilla, Ivy, Hort, etc. They all ride dragons, not pegasus and are significantly better on average to their counterparts.

Emblem Eirika's, however...

eirika can either level well or end up being lyn level, it's all up to chance
in any case she's still an excellent morale boost for the troops so she's got more value than roy at least

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Need proof.

altena sucks ass tho

Where does Eda fall into?

Into Dean's peen

Pegasluts are better

Shiida

Palla/Catria

Fiora/Farina

Marcia/Tanith

Every single pegaslut in Awakening

Chloé/Hort

Minerva

There is no meaningful distinction in the classes in FE1 to 3. In NM, Wyvern is inferior to Falcon during the late game due to spd caps.

Altena

Is worse than Fee in Gen 2.

Jill

Is frequently placed in the same general rating as Marcia in 9 and is really overrated in 10. You also forgot the beast that is PoR Tanith.

It's weird that Zeiss doesn't get as much recognition as Milady, despite being borderline identical, and identically busted, units.

The fuck you mean, she's one of the best Gen 2 units with zero investment. Yes, you can make more broken units, but she's always good no matter what.
Not all of them are good, just like not all peg knights are bad.

ivy mogs chloe so fucking hard that you lose all credibility

Zeiss is worse than the pegasluts since he has actual weapon rank issues and doesn't have high base level+stats that Milady has.

blue hair

has "rika" in her name

Nipah?

the more male leaning flying class

meanwhile the majority of playable wyverns are women

Hortensia's also the best staffer in Engage, so both sisters are top of the line, Ivy just gets more hype due to people sucking off offensive juggernauts more.

zeiss joins when melady is already probably around level 5 promoted and is underleveled and has shitty weapon ranks so he can't even use a killer lance for a while
he also has a worse speed growth

Hort mogs Ivy, and Chloé mogs Rosado.

I beat it hard to Eirika too, OP.

Not all of them are good, just like not all peg knights are bad.

At least they can be cute

Hort mogs Ivy

retard alert. any idiot can use miccy.

mii~!

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Altena is one of the best gen 2 units

Barely does anything in Chapter 9 because her first castle is a ballista spam fest and the second one has her jobbing to Arione

Chapters 10 and F are filled with sleep staves and other magical dangers which punish her bad resistance. Then you have send her away from combat to stop Arion

Nah

she joins right before a point where 80% of the enemies are magical and siege/status staff spam is eveywhere
she is not as good as the stats screen says she should be

Wyverns Riders are generally more female than male. We didn't get a wyvern riding fella til Thracia, and we usually get one of each every game afterwards that isn't a remake.

She's just alright. Bases are mid, but she has decent weapon ranks and comes at a point in the game where mobility is still a uniquely valuable asset (compare to Ilios, who joins when there's not many outdoor maps left but his bases are so awesome that it's fine).

Wyverns are 50/50 as far as playable ones go, but if you consider enemy ones too, it's overwhelmingly male.
Peg Knights are 100% female though.
So yes, girls in more male class better.

Hortensia requires 0 investment to easily be the best one due to inherent flight and s staves. Her statline also meshes well with Thani in the offchance you need to fight.
Ivy's the best in Engage but Hort is still a top 5.

Ivy's the best in Engage but Hort is still a top 5.

Sure, but you said the opposite before, assuming you are the same poster

Who's the worst pegaslut in the series? Is it Florina without Lyn mode?

I'm not the same person.

if you consider enemies

If you consider enemies then every class except for the women only ones are overwhelmingly male.

Heath did not die during the second FE7 run. I wanted Eliwood to get more exp and got greedy and he died like a bitch.

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gameplayfags

based

waifu trannies and ritual posters

cringe

Ultra cringe - You

No, because Florina can get out of her rut and you get a second Fiora with slightly better stats and she at least has availability and utility.
Juno is just bad.

I vibe with both idk about u man

Male wyverns tend to have speed and skill issues, pegasluts tend to have too much speed/skill and not enough attack or bulk. Female wyverns are the happy medium. Its a similar thing with swords where female swords tend to have 200 hitrate and double everything, but its 2x0 damage and they also die instantly if they ever fail to dodge, while male swords tend to have just enough bulk to survive a round of combat or two and still tend to double.

Ross actually has a niche that makes him alright.
Erika can actually fight early on.

When you start with several of your stats nearly capped and stronger than half the enemies on your joining map, I don't see what difference being level 7 is supposed to make.
I get that he's strictly worse than Milady in the sense that he has worse availability and weapon rank, but they're not competing for the same spot, you have 3 whips by the time you get him.

gameplayfags

cheater dramafaggots

waifu and ritualposters

peaceful and honest

Do you guys ship Eirika with someone in the game?

NOOO LEIF RING IS SO BAD GUYS

Literally one shots maddening mode bosses

Engagefags are such keks

Very impressive, now post the real mode you played.

Why is Sacred Stones so kino?
For my money, it's the split promotion system.

ULTRA BASED

I told you your Corrin would shit on him

Heh we engaygies are so superior with out diverse and evolving meta

NOOOOO STOP BEING DIVERSE AND BRING SOMETHING!!! SPAM MAGIC AND DAGGERS LIKE THE REST OF US!!!

split promos are kino ev&doe 90% of them are extremely lopsided

Samefag

lichtklinge

engaygies

Oh, it's you. Disregarding your schizobabble

Picking the same classes anyway since they are clearly betzer is supposed to be kink.

I can't help but optimize the fun out of games!

Uhmmmmmmmmm sounds like a "YOU-PROBLEM", bubby... I'll keep making me Joshua an Assassin

says the fag that screams 3HRT

zeiss is not terrible if you look at him on his own but the low speed and having to be trained up in the mid-lategame with shitty lances are both real issues that he will always have

Damn inagine a fucking hater being more creative and fun the the actual engagefags.

I love having split promotions. Of course I'd never promote to great knight over paladin, but I like the illusion of it being a real choice

Seth obviously
thats the kino one
but since people here are degenerates they want to think theres incest garbage

Only her brother. Like, being completely honest here, it's obvious the incest themes were not only intentional they were overwhelming.
Look at their Prfs, Siegmund and Sieglinde. If you don't know Norse mythology or Die Walküre, it's literally a story about twin siblings named Siegmund and Sieglinde, who were separated at birth, then they reunited and fucked.

did they really need to give them -1 mov from cavalier?

You must be a jobber to enjoy the game

Kek

How Duessel Being a Great Knight BREAKS You...

Holy crackers! A gay bitch hattrick.
Fellas, you can fuck each other in the ass without letting me know... I'll continue making my Cormag a Wyvern Knight because the dragon looks rad, thank you very much. CAPTCHA: P00SY

Nah, i for one want valter to rape her.

game enjoyer-sama... i kneel

now do it against a non-flier

Yes, Great Knight should have 1 less MOV. The issue is the tradeoff isn't fucking worth it. Great Knights should have significantly more strength and bulk, not a point or two.

ANY unit can be good with the right rolls and supposedly 'good' units can be bad with bad rolls.

They got more sod out of the great knight promo tho.

Engage a shit

How long do you think we'll have to wait for a new Fire Emblem game on Switch 2? A good one though not like Engage.

Most fe unit types make for uninteresting enemies, the monsters are genuinely interesting and a nice change of pace. Spiders with high defenses and accuracy in the mountains are a better version of 'axe bandit but stronger' than the berserker that often resides at the two exremes of 'completely unable to hit you' and 'oneshots you'. Mauthe dogs are just great units in general, really good statblock for the ideal anti-cav unit without relying on cheap tactics like random horseslayers. Stone is an interesting status effect that is the perfect mix of a problem that has to be solved immediately without being fucking berserk.

Its effectivly -2 mov to what they could have been.
The stats wouldnt be worth it.

great knight is actually the faster option tho

I have been emulating Sacred Stones as a way to pass the time in the bathroom for years.
Lost my save, then started again, now I save state to get optimal stats.
I know the game's not hard, but I want everyone to be the best they can be.
Grinding Valni for money for Hero Crests atm.

Monsters a re kame and cringe and their maps are considered to be the worst ones in the series.

I could see Great Knight being 1 less move than Paladin (so same as Cav) but the tradeoff being stats.
The real issue is Paladins are just so damn good at everything. They don't need stat buffs, they already function.

Bro jobs so hard in one of the easiest game that he needs the tower of valny

God you guys suck at this game

They aren't that lopsided.
Bishop, Summoner, and Berserker are the only uncontested choices.
Every other split has upsides and downsides depending on which character you're looking at, often in the form of losing 5 str/mag on a character that can hit 30.

le stat caps meme

don't reply to me again

Filtered by boats

Didn't like ghost ship kino

Great Knight is good for when your unit gets stat screwed or for Kyle specifically due to axes being by far his best weapon type. Axes make up any lost point in strenght, wt control maxes out combat potential, and the better promo gains correct screwage on bulk and offense somewhat.

meme

Stat caps are actually relevant for the (very kino) post-game.
Don't tell me... You never unlocked Lyon in the post-game? Oh boy... What a bitch.

or you could just use an actual good cav instead of k*le

Lel stat caps

Movement is king though. Why would you willingly trade movement for a point of strength?

he didn't play as lyon

lol

Poopsocking Fire Emblem Sacred Stones will make my weenus grow... it has to !!!

KEKAROO

End turn with seth and duessel the map

Boring

Filtered

He's your fourth best cav.

Seth is Seth

Duessel is a beast of a GK

Franz is your typically solid paladin

Kyle is your backup incase Franz dies, levels like shit or if you need one more cav

Great knights gets like a few tiny points in str by wielding axes

"FiX a StAt ScReWeD cHaRaCtEr."

Filtered by wanting to play an actual challenging map.

Gets challenge

NOOOOOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT

Bro half your fucking roster in SS caps their strength at 10/15.
Yeah go make Garcia a fucking Hero because Bows suck.

Has anyone ever seriously chosen anything but these? The branching promos have such obviously correct choices it's hard to even find any that are remotely contentious

Grinding Valni for money

Stand on top of ruins. Save. Close and reopen game, do not merely soft reset.
Open the game and enter the Ruins.
Burn exactly 13 RNs.
Retreat from the Ruins and re-enter.
Retreat from the Ruins and re-enter (2nd time).
Retreat from the Ruins and re-enter (3rd time).
There should be a Wight near the north east of the map that is carrying a droppable Swiftsole. Kill it to get it. There is also a Maelduin near the bottom of the map with a Dracoshield, if you want that as well.
Retreat from the Ruins and save the game.
Repeat the instructions to get more.

Note: This only works in the Creature Campaign, Normal and Easy Mode. If you're playing in Hard Mode, instead of 13 RNs waste 3 RNs, and instead of retreating from the Ruins 3 times retreat 6 times

Yeah go make Garcia a fucking Hero because Bows suck.

sounds good to me

Ike and Hector are wildly overrated they don't really perform that well except RD Ike but that's a pretty special case. Ephraim is ridiculously good granted, but Eirika is a better lord in SS than Hector in 7 or PoR Ike.

They make it pretty clear in story at least that Ephraim is a fucking dumbass though and Eirika really is the main lord

if hoshido retaliated then they'd be just like the nohrians

I mean, they did. They invaded Nohrian cities and you even have to protect villages from bandits pillaging in some of those maps. It's just the narrative never brings that up even though it'd make the Nohrian counter-invasion much more understandable.

Cant say that if the map was a cakewalkx which it was

Has anyone ever seriously chosen anything but these?

Yes, but only because I've replayed SS over a dozen times.

Ike can enemy phase.
Eirika cant.
Hence ike is better

Ranger vs Hero is actually a balanced choice. Yes, 1-2 range hand axes are good, but Gerik becomes very difficult to rescue (you need 15 Aid which no one has when promoted as a mount) and 8 has enough 1-1 monsters that he doesnt mind using swords.

+1 str

1 spd helping doubling thresholds

Instant access to the Halberd and the Hammer for easy kills

+1-2 damage off handaxes compared to javs

Steel Axe for unga bunga damage

C rank can be reached easily through these +Devil Axe for the Killer Axe

The Devil Axe exists incase you need even more might

It does a lot to help offense

If you cut Ike from the game Maniac mode would be massive Aids. If you cut Eirika from her game, nothing fundamentally changes

Hero Garcia

Mage Knight Lute

Paladin Kyle

Hero Gerik

Valkyrie L'arcachel

These are wrong. Or irrelevant in L'arachel's case.

Ike can enemy phase

When he finally gets Ragnell.

Obviously. Frank GK, Giliam General, Vanessa FK, Garcia Warrior, Neimi Sage, Joshua toss-up, Kyle GK, Amelia General, Gerrik Ranger, Marisa Assassin, Ewan toss-up, Cormag toss-up...
Rule of cool > all

Ike can do nothing for the entirety of Maniac mode and you'd still be able to beat Ashnard by roiding up Ena with Wrath/Resolve and some levels in Twisted Tower.

>Hero Garcia

Oh yeah I'm sure Garcia appreciates the 0 speed he gets from warrior. That and the fucking useless bows

I don't remember the method but I used a similiar one to make a skirmish appear on the malken coast map that has a master seal. They sell for like 10k each so you get 2.5 stat boosters worth each time you do it

Mage Knight is better than Sage if you just want to beat the game.
Paladin mogs GK in 8 for the cavs

Falcoknight for the pegasluts (No, wyvern knight is not better, stop falling for muh weighed down meme)
Great Knight for Kyle
General for Amelia since she's made to be a scrimblo
Assassin for Marisa for lockpick access+lethality sometimes making her barely useful
Whichever for Lel

>Valkyrie L'arcachel

Ivaldi is obviously way better and light magic is just generally good against monsters in FE8. Mage knight is strictly worse.

Eirika swept almost the whole game

The only thing Eirika can sweep is my cock. Maybe her brother's cock too.

Why do people even bother with minmaxing and tier lists with these games?
They are all extremely easy.

Just use whatever anime character you think looks cool and you cant still breeze through every single mission on any of the games.

+1 or 2 attack is so much guys

Con for a unit witu already high con so he doesnt even get weight down by most things either way

Devil axe is viable

Holy fuck great knight keks ars such losers

Shut up DBZspic.

Or by ch8 when he starts off his oscar support.
I just know you never played the game and just list of what that twink dani goyle said

Idk I can buy some of this other shit like the Eliwood thing earlier I GUESS, but GK is so clearly shit that I really do have to wonder how honest they're being

Ike is like one of the sagest units in EP thanks for the earth supports and his aether is one of the best masteries to potentially kill units where others just fail.

That sounds retarded and wrong (wrath/resolve is not some ebin I win button on Maniac least of all fucking Ena lmao gl even getting her to Ashnard) and I was speaking about Maniac mode as a whole. You need Ike as a slab of meat until you start getting Cavalier beef like Kevin introduced into your squad

what is the point of sages in sacred stones
what is the point of warriors
sacred stones must have the most dogshit reclass system

Hey, if it's either GK promo or the unit gets benched due to bad stats, I'm picking GK. Kyle is the exception, since his stats are so borderline that the slight boost in speed and strenght, plus axes is just enough to go from entirely mediocre to at least good at combat.

what is the point of sages in sacred stones

Lower move alternative to mage knight with basically no upsides. You rike?

devil axe is viable for grinding weapon rank. Just use it on a safe combat in player phase then trade it away with your healer. If you double and kill that's 24 wexp in one round of combat, considering it's also E rank you might as well use it if you're going GK

still a pretty bad unit.
Sacred stones just easy so you can use whatever

grinding weapon rank

In Sacred Stones

My guy GK is not gonna fix a heavily stat screwed unit.
And if 1 or 2 stats are so important to you then just go and level them up instead.

Lower move alternative to mage knight with basically no upsides. You rike?

Also higher magic cap.

uh oh iron blade vanessa fags are not gonna want to hear this

le 20/20 stats

fuck off

Sages

Oh shit, we gave all the monster mages dark tomes! Let's give light to sages so that they have WTA against them! What do you mean, that's not enough?

Warriors

Bows on high str units=good! Huh? You want more than E rank?

A case of IS not knowing how people play FE.

Story playthrough vs PVP. Translated Stones literally had growths buffed and nerfed because of PVP lol

hero/ranger and larachel promo is like the only non obvious choice

I'll give you Gerick, but no Larachel is very obvious why the fuck would you ever go mage knight over valk

It's a booster split in two for both of the most important stats (akin to one quite lucky level), and it improves might further through axes. I'm not saying to pick it over Paladin for your average Franz or whatever, since average Franz doesn't need the help. I'm saying to pick it for Franz is refusing to level well and you'd bench him otherwise or if you want to use Kyle alongside Franz (if not replacing Franz outright) and want mr borderline to be competent without funneling SS' limited exp in him.

5 extra damage on Lute
5 extra damage on Garcia

Oh no my cav is not leveling well

Guess I'll turn him into an infantry unit with shitty stats to "save him"

???

I still hate how they nerfed super trainees when they didn't even need to do it.

Great you gutted your character for an entire playthrough by killing one of its only good things which could have been fixed by getting a level up

haven't tried the latest patch, but it was pretty good when i played though it. Mostly good changes across the board, which is rare

great knight

not great

not a knight

Oh, this cav is underperforming, but I still want to use him

Let's promote him to paladin

Wtf, he still isn't good?

GK exists to avoid cases like this

Devil Axe Kyle > Seth

le 20/20 stats

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I go Hero Garcia since he's supposed to be a retired war hero, he gave up his sword and picked up an axe to live out the quiet life. After recruitment he starts steadily training his sword skills again and finally brings it out in combat after promotion. Meanwhile he specifically mentions his lack of proficiency with bows in a support.

I played 1.02, didn't really care for it but I only played on Hard and not Lunatic, at least "infinite use weapons" wasn't implemented horribly

Meanwhile he specifically mentions his lack of proficiency with bows in a support

That's just lolcowlizers censoring his drinking support with Garcia. Don't try to make sense of it.

Can I get the version of FE8 you have where this actually matters? Like can you find one enemy this makes any difference for apart from the final boss who is already free?

I go Hero Garcia since he gets 10 average levels worth of speed from his promo, but that's cool as well.

You dont even need to do 20/20 to often hit cap in SS.

With Dozla*

GK just makes it worse

Apparently people are trying to OR the endgame dogs, according to the Wyvern Knight Vanessa posters. I don't get it either desu.

steel blade vanessa

devil axe kyle

who's next???

that's fucked up.

um um um ackshually it doesn't matter

1 extra move is ackshually better than 5 extra damage and light magic

How's it feel knowing the next Fire Emblem will be open world?

i think vanessa and maybe seth are literally the only units hitting lvl 20 promoted in a regular playthrough
(idk about seth but jus incase)

I've never used Ena before in my life

5 extra damage at 20/20

Against enemies you one round anyways

Really impressive stuff

Your opinion is outdated. 20 years ago you would be correct. Because 20 years ago, new and/or casual players would use the guy with big stats then go online and see everyone saying "noooo don't use them, they're shit" and then start parroting that they're shit. Nowadays the common opinion has shifted. Casuals won't say that Jagens are bad now.

I'm not gonna lie I just pick SS branching promotions based off of what looks cooler, which is usually the older classes if applicable because the FE8 exclusive animations just aren't nearly as good.

It boosts their combat to an acceptable and still has Canto+the mount rescue formula. It's better than just having them run around the map hoping to do something.

Seth actually hits cap more often than Vanessa because he should be getting the early chapter boss kills

She's dogshit without high investment, all she really has is the earliest possible join time but Seth has that too and he's not locked out of your game if you pick Ephraim route. If she joined at the same time Lyn does in Hector/Eliwood mode people like you wouldn't be out here defending her given she's basically the same fucking unit.

I would argue GK actually nerfs their combat, too. You're going to have a harder time picking appropriate targets thanks to the lower move, and you're going to have a harder time keeping up with your more mobile units in general. They're going to get more combats and thus level up faster, eclipsing any of the gains gotten from the GK promo in basically no time.

Rebecca and Lyn were ripping apart assholes in my most recent run.

if you imagine this scenario that doesn't exist you wouldn't be calling her good

???

how do you fall for the most obvious bait

Mage Knight Lute

Knee-capping Lute's main dump stat by reducing its cap by 5 is PEAK RETARD.

Against enemies you one round anyway

Now I remember why discussing FE on Anon Babble is a waste of time, because you retards don't play the games you talk about.
The difference between a 35 and 40 might attack IS the difference between one-rounding enemies in LR. Which you would probably know if you had actually played the game you're spewing your retard opinions about.

reaching 25 mag cap

needing it to be more than 25

Learn to read, dipshit. I said she's not good regardless, but she wouldn't have defenders jerking her off if she showed up as far into the game as Lyn does in 7.
I've seen enough FE casuals that genuinely mean shit like OP.

agreed on mage knight and ranger, but great knight, wyvern knight, rogue and sword generals all look cool. Summoner fits Ewan since it looks like he's wearing a robe that's like 5 sizes too large

Do you have any concrete examples of this mattering or are you just autistic about having your big number capped?

For a system that supposedly has le "objectively correct choices", you gays are arguing awfully long about which promotions are the best...
Almost like the split promo system was kino all along....... Two decades and it still hasn't been solved, what a work of art...

child brides

Base level Garcia is capable enough to beat endgame enemies. Sacred Stones isn't exactly putting out the strongest enemies. Monsters just suck and comprise 90% of the endgame.
Doesn't help that Lyon has 4 effective speed and Fortomrtiss is one rounded by 4-5 sacred weapons.

no shit because then she would be around for fewer maps and have less opportunities to gain XP...
if I cut off your legs would you be able to walk as good??

you gays are arguing awfully long about which promotions are the best

its just people arguing just to argue
people would argue having no electricity is better than having electricity just because

People are allowed to be dumb and make retarded arguments like GK being viable somehow. Doesn't mean there isn't an objectively correct choice anyways.

Ena works people just don't put resolve on her because they want to funny solo Ashnard with Ike instead, even if having 2(and eventually 3) that can actually damage him is significantly more flexible than getting Ike to the point where he can solo.

My problem is mostly the animations suck. Great Knight looks cool, but then he does his crit and it's lame compared to a Paladin crit. It's less of a problem for some classes than others, sword generals still look fine.

That's just because Garm is absolutely busted

Only FE6. Where every female unit other than Milady is inferior to their male counterpart.

Eirika has 90 users of Rapier that mogs almost every other GBA starting personal weapon on her route. It gives her an out against enemy types that almost everyone in the first 8 chapters suck against (cavs and knights)
If you take Ephraim, then she's a free 15/1 unit in Ch16
Sieglinde is a good personal weapon (16 Mt effective on every endgame enemy and +5 str on the side)

What's up with this retarded fag who keeps meme arrowing stat caps? Have you seriously never seen a green number on your stats page? Maybe stop playing 0% growths?

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Marrying the young empress...

Yeah those promotion gains make gigantic changes in their combat. That whole +1 def and +1 str over Paladin at the cost of being 2 move behind. If there was an item in the game that gave a unit stat bonuses equivalent to the differences between paladin and GK promo bonuses but at the cost of 2 movement, nobody would use it.

in any case she's still an excellent morale boost for the troops

It's the skirt.

anon you ok??

This is kind of proving their point though. Melady has a speed cap of 23 but it doesn't actually matter because she just solos the game anyways.

Lagdou Ruins

You mean the bishop spam fest? Everyone is likely to be under full supports and Lute has an easy time getting max might so its more like 40 vs 45 which might matter for a handful of enemies like Cyclops.

Honeymoon with the young empress...

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jesus christ her caps are low
what a dogshit unit

Yeah sure.
Here's an Entombed, the weakest enemy type in LR, and the singlemost magically weak type as well with the lowest resistance.
A magic capped Mage Knight with an Elfire tome cannot one round him if he doesn't roll THE lowest possible combination of both HP and Resistance.

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COMFORTING NERVOUS YOUNG EMPRESS

actual FE players don't just reach stat caps, they surpass them

Shipped her with Innes. Mostly because I can't unlearn the Crusader Kings mentality.

Lyon has 4 effective speed

Yes but he also has enough mt that most of the cast dont want to fight him because they get murked on the counter.

She's bad regardless, why do I need to say this multiple times? She starts with 4 fucking strength and is swordlocked the entire game. The only good aspects she has are that she gets amount eventually and her personal(s) are pretty solid.
Rapier falls off hard with her shitty strength, you're better off hitting with effectives on something else. Maybe she's not quite as bad as Lyn but she's hardly anything worthwhile.

I don't really care about LR at all sorry. Don't care about link battles either. If it makes you feel any better about picking sage that image was made solely from the perspective of the main story.

i need to train lute to 20/10 sage to kill a random monster

Meh, most are just obvious
BK>Sniper
MK>Sage
Paladin>GK (except in niche cases or for Kyle)
FK>WK
WK>WL
Bishop>>>Anything else
Rogue>Assassin
SM>Assassin (unless it's Marisa, who's too shit even with 15 crit to work)
GK>General
Hero>Warrior
Zerker>>>anything else
Summoner>>>anything else
Hero>Ranger
MK=Valkyrie

she becomes the best unit in the game

I don't get this myth. She won't even be in the top 5. Her growths are not so outstanding that you'd expect her to surpass people even with investment. She's not an Est. Her bases suck and her growths are only ok; the only way that she becomes better than some units is due to having extra levels she needs to gain. She will also never be on a wyvern.

Yes, I know you don't care about doing the difficult content in FE games.
That's the point.

powerful unit

the other berserker

LMFAO, Dozla is one of the worst GBA units of all time!

I don't really care about LR at all sorry

KEK RETARD

It's +1 speed instead of +1 def and D rank in axes, actually. The axes with the +1 strenght are worth more than an Energy ring, and speed helps maintain doubling thresholds.

making him the most powerful unit in the game

slow as shit

can't hit for shit

kys pedo

nta but it's clear you're trying to shift into the "I'm just pretending to be retarded" mode

I'll say stupid shit so they think I was just trolling from the beginning!

this unit has good stats and skills

this unit had bad stats and skills but can move two more spaces than the other

which is better?

I don't care about doing the actual challenge in FE but let me tell you why you're wrong.

Assassin is cooler so you always use at least one, it's the rule

Not really. He's not great by any means but he's usable. Good hp and good str, his speed is a meme but enemies aren't very fast on average anyway.
Granted, I don't agree that he's anywhere near the "best" like that other guy but still.

I'm gonna make a Fire Emblem romhack how do I maximize the amount of arguments over its balance in discussion

I doubt it's actually difficult I just don't really care about the low-effort side content. If your strategy actually hinges on Lute one-rounding some random monster with an elfire tome I'm a but suspicious of your expertise, anyways

Berserker has the most potential for raw combat yes, but Ross is still a mediocre unit even with investment because he thinks he only needs to level luck and hp.

Oh shit, you're right. +1 speed is even worse. Axes are nice but not worth -2 movement.

the actual challenge in FE

using all capped units to beat some stupid monsters that die to effective weapons in the postgame

oh yea real challenging

Make the shortbow 1-2 range

add branched promotions apparently

give every unit a prf

My honeymoon would consist out of playing tic tac toe on her enormous forehead.

Most of these are wrong.
t. Sacred Stones expert

it falls off

It doesnt. There are enough armors and cavs in 8 that 90 uses of 21 effective mt on a unit that consistently doubles will go far. Like among the entire cast in Chapter 6 for example, only Seth, Eirika and Joshua can reliably ORKO the cavs.

And make the options super lopsided, so people get defensive when this fact is pointed out and resign themselves to retarded positions to deflect

Depends to which extreme the stats differ. LTCfags (aka subhumans) will tell you that a flier with 1 in every stat is better than a 6 move ground unit with 30 in every stat because muh 500 resets 1% Steel Lance crit on the boss is the optimal way to clear the map and nothing resembling normal play matters.

I actually prefer the spd over the defense to maintain thresholds, especially since axes provide the same defensive value as well due to absolute wt control. GK also gets +1hp technically, but that's barely anything.

Thread status: Invasion of the purple haired lolis

Objective: Survive (0/8 Turns)

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Consider not sharing opinions on games you haven't played.

It's SS, your units are basically always doubling already

bot broke

You're full of shit considering that units like Rutger are some of the most shilled units in the franchise by everyone since you still need a unit to kill the fucking boss.

he's usable

Until he encounters an enemy that can fight back against his 9 speed, 4 luck and 11 defense. Yes, that speed fucking matters, dogs will rip him to shreds.

No, it does. Her low str is gonna start eventually making it so she doesn't kill even with the doubling that'll most likely happen because speed is her one good stat, and eventually there won't be many armors nor cavs to fight at all because the game starts becoming more monster focused, though at that point she'll have seiglinde which is actually really good being being a sword.

Almost done with FE6...

Have to ask though. Why do people think Sacae is hard? It's tedious, but easy as hell. Short bows can't touch most of your units.

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lol guys I just found this hack "Fire Emblem Sacred Stones: Reforged TM". Is it fun y/n?

Is Sacred Trilogy fun?

Lol this is like saying you can't talk about Fates unless you did online castle battles before that got shut down. Nobody cares about the shitty post-game content that got made by an intern in an afternoon.

by everyone

I'm talking about LTCfags
Are LTCfags everyone anon?

Take the Andaron Saga approach where units can obtain even more gimmicks from supports.

I already answered your question but I'll also say the Stormbow is still the only way to use Neimi since it gives whoever uses it Galeforce
No... Wait am I thinking of Sacred War? Well the answer is probably still no even though I don't remember anything about it, but it's not as bad as Project Jade

bro never talked to an LTCer
just heard a stereotype off the telephone

Randomize growth rates for certain units.

You'd be surprised by how subpar the speed of non Franz cavs is. Franz himself is solidly a paladin in over 90% of runs since he is actually good, but Kyle needs the speed and damage boost while Forde has to make himself useful somehow (either get lucky with levels or turn him into a GK so that he can be a bit useful the one time he's off the bench).

He can reliably take a few hits with his good hp and decent defense if you're not having him face tank the entirety of the enemy forces. SS enemies aren't hard enough to disregard him completely just because his bases aren't game breakingly good.

Yeah it's only really FE7 where the mobility advantage is so pronounced because the maps in that game overwhelmingly favour horses. Even FE8 which is a very easy game where you don't need the extra stats of grounded units has a lot of value units in draft and LTC for efficiency. If your name isn't Raven you better hope you're mounted

LTCchads live in this guy's head rent free

It's the definition of mediocre. The added lunatic difficulty is instantly kneecapped by all the broken shit the game gives you (like a galeforce bow... which Vanessa can use because one of her promotions grants bow access) so you're more or less back at base game difficulty. Some of the cool animations added like Sieglinde/Siegmund crits are alongside bafflingly bad replacements for the cool gba general animations. The new characters are ok, no op edgelord self insert as is the case with some hacks. The extra maps are decent too.

moulder looks like how the average pajeet envisions himself in his mind

8 doesnt become purely monster focused until 20 out of 21. Even then you still fight Tavros and Maelduins who are weak to the Rapier if it hasnt broken at that point.
If you care about supports, she has several full might (and even crit) options for more damage. If you dont care about that, her strength is on par with Vanessa who has more than adequate enough combat against the average jobber in 8. All Eirika really wants is an energy ring.

all the upset Ross glazers replying to this

no one cares about Amelia

Man, I'm so fucking tired of the availability meme. Ross comes early, sure, but he is TERMINALLY SLOW. Amelia may come much later but at least she's FAST and has access to the paladin class which all the metafags dicksuck as being the best anyway. You have plenty of fucking time to make Amelia competent on Ephraim's route.

I made my Amelia a Swordmaster.

oc donut steels in a remastered hack

say it ain't so...

Must be a day that ends in Y

Ross's main benefit is that he gets 30 exp per attack and gets to fight absolute jobbers who can't even OR him, not to mention that he has the Hatchet so that he doesn't even worry about con. The zombie map makes it especially easy for him to reach the Pirate promo and to become independant.

at least she's FAST

4 base speed

at least be convincing

Raven

Harken, Hawkeye, Pent, any one of Erk/Canas/Lucius (Since they're all in the same general combat level). Even Oswin gets a lot of use before they bench his ass.

There's like 2 you can optionally pick up early (a dark mage and a pre-promote swordie) and I didn't find out how to recruit the other ones that appear later on

I wasn't saying it was entirely monsters until the end of the game just that there's a point where you're better off using something like a silver/steel sword if you want to kill most enemies because a rapier isn't going to be doing anything notable on most. Also Vanessa's move and access to lances alone make her significantly better than Eirika, to the point where her low strength isn't nearly as big of an issue because she might not be fighting at all, or she can just outrange them.

It's a rng strategy that's not good for LTC and that you'd never want to run in an Ironman so it still remains a rather odd random non-sequitur when discussing Ike and Eirika's total worth in their respective games

No it's actually more like saying you should go play the game you've admitted you haven't but are still sharing your worthless thoughts on.

Average stats as a level 1 cavalier for her is like 9 speed or something which is pretty good in the context of a level 1 cav. Her growth isn't amazing either so if SS were a harder game, I don't think she'd be considered fast, yeah.

why can't romhACKers make one remaster hack without adding in shitty OCs nobody asked for

RNG

Wrath/Resolve Ike/Ena/Nasir is the most consistent method to beat Ashnard on Hard/Maniac. Aether is you consistently scumming on Ike for a proc while trying to contain Ashnard's ass from raping the rest of your team.

What's worse in SS? A village giving you an Iron Axe as a reward for visiting it, or the chests filled with basic weaponry?

Ok yeah MK is strictly better for the entire game but there's like some shit nobody plays where you fight a bunch of shitter monsters and the magic cap matters there

The funny part is I seriously even doubt sage is better in this hyper-specific example you had to concoct where it was even a question. I just haven't experienced enough of that pointless shit to authoritatively say.

Lyon's pussy game.

It's the toll the audience has to pay for some autist's free work. Just kill the OC for giggles.

Rapier is basically Steel Sword tier in Mt. You can count the number of times where she'd fall short.

9 speed would be good, if she didn't take 9 levels as the dogshit trainee class to get there, which gets 1 rounded by basically everything on her join map. She'll EVENTUALLY be faster than Ross, but getting her to that point is significantly more annoying.

These already exist though
It would be an acceptable idea in Project Jade since they split your army and force you to play both the Ephraim and Eirika chapters, but the new characters are mostly terrible

It's RNG because Maniac enemies are an actual threat (which you would know if you played it) and you need to either deal with them efficiently before Ashnard moves or yolo your Resolve bot into the middle of the northern meatpile that happens to feature a dragon and Bryce. It's unlikely for Ena to have the stats necessary to slide under every single one of those attacks when even Ike falters routinely.

if she didn't take 9 levels as the dogshit trainee class to get there

If you can't do that for her on her join map, you actually fucking suck at FE.

Honestly, they should remake SS. It could use a lunatic mode, mabye even a Mystery of the Emblem style book 2. Despite it being memed on as the easy one this thread shows there is still something to the game.

Rebalances tend to go too far and radically change how games play even before they come to thoughts like "man there's a real mechanical gap in the units here" or "this mission is really lacking let's add something". Like every FE6 rebalance that buffs hit rates.

Honestly all people really want is for bad units to be better and for supports to not take a million years

I seriously even doubt sage is better in this hyper-specific example you had to concoct

If only there were some way to correct this lack of knowledge of the game you haven't played but are sharing opinions on

I just haven't experienced enough of that pointless shit to authoritatively say

Yep

You can just say that you never tried it.

Chloé is an early game unit, so she has access to sword power and canter while also being able to get a head start on supports with Alear for Bond Shield avoid abuse, if you want. Don't get me wrong, Ivy is definitely better, but the difference bewteen the two isn't exactly what I call "getting mogged".

Every unit is now good because if you can't make them kill everything then you're bad at the game. Congrats, anon, you solved all FE unit debates.

The best way to play it is to boost the growth rates of all nob recruitable enemies, replace some of the later ones with their promoted variants and give bosses +1 to +4 overall to all their stats.

No one cares about Valni or Lagdou.

Play the entire game twice with different promo choices to prove me wrong about this side content nobody ever pays attention to in FE8 meta discussion

No thanks

It's not difficult, but you need to go out of your way to do it when Ross gets basically free chip exp from the second he joins, while also joining early enough that his trash bases don't completely screw him over. Amelia has a much worse time actually getting the exp to get out of trainee, to the point where you might just have her smack an archer or similarly no 1 range enemy for like 40 turns just to get it.

The conversation was about killing Ashnard. If you want to fart around with Aether and give him even more chances to do his shit then be my guest.

SS is kneecapped so hard by its difficulty it's insane. If you can get passed that it's a very interesting game. Great maps, good units, solid story. One really memorable aspect of it for me is always that except for Moulder, Gilliam and Vanessa, there are zero plot filler characters. Everyone else has some integral role in the plot even if it's very small and you can't really cut them out which they never did again in FR

Valni and Lagdou Ruins are the only reason I play Sacred Stones KEK

Don't speak for me

Moulder, Gilliam and Vanessa

Plot fillers

Look and laugh at this secondary, he never played SS on easy mode kek

The conversation was about Ike and Eirika before some mentally ill retard started screeching about Ena. I have never once mentioned Aether I just know that Wrath/Resolve Ike is not some invincible I win button because I fucking use him regularly. So lmao at pretending Ena is any better and you're not just reloading a dozen times to get the result you want ie the gayest and lamest way of playing a strategy game

If you used the 255 crit glitch then you didnt beat the game

that village is just a tutorial for taking down the branch to get to lute

It's a very tight game, yeah. Good starting point as well, if you don't want to play something more recent.

if you ignore Ike then you cant beat PoR because you cant beat Ashnard

but what about Wrath/Resolve Ena with some levels under her belt

noooo it doesnt count

Fuck off

No.
At least the version I played wasn't. A rotten start with the first fucking boss having Awakening counter, an Innes nerf, King Hayden being a needless Gotoh and Barricade slowing the game down are the lowlights I remember.
Maybe the latest version is better but I doubt it's by much.

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Alright, dragon-fags: What is the difference, personality wise, between Fae, Tiki, Nowi, and Myrre.

Nobody cares about the hardest content in this Fire Emblem game

Yep. Just like people don't care about Maniac mode, DLC superboss missions, Ironmen, gimp units runs, etc. etc.
This is not an endorsement of the difficulty of the Creature Campaign either, but you'd know that if you had actually played it.

Or you could just look at the wiki and look up a table and do some addition and subtraction to see that your argument that a damage breakpoint isn't significant actually is significant.
This would at least be one step up from what I assume is your usual manner of forming opinions on Fire Emblem games you haven't played, which is watching youtubers play it.

Why do modern meta discussions for FE7 assume you AREN'T using Lyn mode? Back in the day everyone factored Lyn mode because it was assumed that even if you just wanted to start a new E/H run, you had a completed Lyn file to load it from, kinda like a pseudo branch of fate. Why has this changed over time?

I said Maniac mode would be Aids without Ike. I never mentioned Ashnard. Not my fault you're illiterate

Dani Doyle

Who? Earth x Earth C is just enough to offset WTD. Ike isnt some invincible demigod in Chapter 8.

You guys just send pics frpm the most lewd girl of all.
I cant controll myself seeing her like that.

Lyn mode fucking sucks.

Lyn mode is a fucking meme

Back in the day

wrong

Because Lyn mode makes the game easier.
Kind of like not taking into account Arena grinding or other things that would trivialize the game.

Valni or Lagdou

Valni or Lagdou isnt hard, retard

Bro ashnard has less then 40 hit on ike when in resolve range.
What makes you think he will die on anythibg else?
Everyone who says resolve ike is bit reliable is a mangs watcher who didnt play the game but take hus words for the words of god.

Calm down anon, she's just a dragon.

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Usually tier lists show LM and non-LM versions of character placements

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If you took away Titania and people like early game Shinon and Gatrie then Maniac Mode would be aids. Ike is just another warm body.

Fae is a baby, Tiki is like happy but then becomes sad in Awakening, Nowi was raped and Myrrh is also sad
i think

Or you could just look at the wiki and look up a table and do some addition and subtraction to see that your argument that a damage breakpoint isn't significant actually is significant.

Why should I presuppose that the math is even relevant? Like sure, maybe she doesn't one round this specific enemy with an elfire tome I guess (switch to like fimbulvetr or excalibur if this is such an important threshold), but I don't even know that this actually matters in the context of actually playing these maps. If Valni is anything to go by, you can just stomp the monsters in any infinite number of ways that doesn't rely on one-rounding with an elfire tome on Lute. Plus you're discounting other sources of damage like supports for this calculation. It's totally meaningless

This. Sanaki's forehead is far more lewd.

Fae

Dumbest, youngest and most innocent, bubbly and curious. Has a lot of empathy, like with Idunn.

Tiki

Slightly traumatized, but has a sweet little sister type besides that.

Myrrh

Shy, demure and kind. Seeks connections with others. Also has a little sister thing going like Tiki does.

Nowi

Bombastic, cheerful and playful. Has scars she hides behind her boundless energy, and a secret wisdom she shows once in a while (like the Harvest DLC where she talks to Tiki about losing human loved ones).

Quality reading comprehension, ESL-anon. I'm glad you understood "This is not an endorsement of the difficulty of the Creature Campaign".
It is, objectively, the hardest content in Sacred Stones.
Sacred Stones is a really easy FE game.

no Lyn mode Wil difference

Wilbros...

I would say besides difficulty, the main story is also pathetically short, and a decent chunk of it is taken up by what amounts to tutorial maps.

the hardest content

Its just long but not hard.

He pretty much bevomes invincible.
Ch8 is the start of his ascension.
Next chapter he gets 17 AVO and in ch11 he reaches the oscar b support

Deserved

Marcus still in S factoring Lyn mode

Marcus fucking sucks.

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We're not having this conversation because it's obvious bait, sorry. Try harder.

my penis

Maniac mode is as hard as fe6.
And thats pretty much the peak of old fe difficulty.

Hey, you can't speak about my empress like that. She's cute, not lewd.

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Fae is actually just a child. Tiki is a fucking princess. Myrrh is shy and wise but just inexperienced. Nowi isn't actually a kid at all, people just treat her like one because of her looks but she's a granny

I like that the worst matchup you could find for him still makes him look like a fucking boss kek

Every enemy has a chance to hit him and Maniac mode has a metric fuckton of enemies on that map. It's an RNG strat that you minimize on Ironman runs by having an Actual Army to keep the heat off him.

And a warm body is a step up over Eirika's literal void of nothing, thanks for finally crossing the starting line

GBA archers are so bad it's unreal.

Why do green haired early game archers always suck? Wolt is in a game that shits out wyvern riders in the truckloads yet he's still seen as a joke.

Most of the LM cast dont really benefit that much from it and there's a possibility that you have less funds since Lyn can come in with a worse gem. Its mostly just the early promo Kent/Sain and a Florina with free boosters.

Non Lyn mode Florina this high

How are these minors manage to arouse me when i aint even a pedophile?

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I wish Nowi let us see her emotional scars a bit more. Though maybe she's happy just living in the moment and not worrying about the past. She is young so it's not as much of an intentional mask as it is just her nature.

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a fucking boss

can't double an early game axenigger

He sucks.

Not much of a combat unit but an early flier is still super useful

Am I insane or are Snipers and Nomads actually pretty good?

A low 20 and lower percent for almost everyone is nothing.
And even if he gets hit he will still tank a bit or 2 before dying.
So even if you manage to be really unlucky you can start over by using an elixier.
Ashnard also gets one rounded.
So the fight doesnt even take long to be unlucky

green Morgan

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Nomads, yes. Snipers, no.

I always like her dialogue with Gharnef during the DLC. Really shows she isn't as dumb as she looks.

No no no.
The Entombed are not "a specific enemy".
They are "the weakest enemy".
Mage Knight, cannot, one-round the weakest enemy.
Sage, can.

This a significant difference. This is why +1 movement is not strictly superior to +5 Magic. Which is why Mage Knight is not a strictly superior choice to Sage.
This is a completely useless conversation, because your misunderstanding of what the Entombed ARE in the game is BECAUSE you haven't played the game you are talking about.

You can juggernaut a shitter from lyn mode by feeding every boss kill to the said units ecause boss kills give a flat high exp.
That will make them way better.

Innes and Klein are both pretty capable. But I guess that's mostly just stats.

She's not useful for the maps you get her before Fiora, who just mogs her into irrelevance

For some reason, they always have the most pathetic stats known to mankind. They're not fast, they're not strong, they have shit defenses, they have only 2 range and to top it all of they never get good growths. Wolt just has Roy's growths but worse, his bases are worse and you just wonder what the point is.

Eirika's literal void of nothing

Wrong.

if havent played fe6 if you didnt do the trial maps

This a significant difference

Is it? I kind of doubt that. Monsters are so comically unthreatening and they're positioned basically randomly on these maps so you can just deathball them easily. If anything MK makes that easier because she can keep up with the rest of your steamrolling army easier.

I think it's just because of Gordin and Ryan being shit. Don't remember archers in Gaiden being all that bad.

More than anything it really comes down to early game archers sucking because even Louise is playable and she's far from a stat stick

What happened to the FE schizo?

Why are these threads so fast lately? What are you people talking about?

They're not fast

Speed is like the one thing Rebecca has going for her thoughbeit.

She can shave off a fair number of turns and fast play is a significant factor in these tier lists because otherwise there's not a lot to rank.

Uses a legendary weapon

Oh whats that there is a tome for mage knights to get effectice damage anyway?
Get fucked.

There's both a gameplay AND a waifu discussion at the same time, it's a potent combo.

gba emblem
surprised its still the 2nd most active even tho it started a bit early

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Us in the Fire Emblem community, we call it the "Sacred Stones" effect.
Every Sacred Stones thread is sure to hit the bump limit. It's just THAT good...

when gameplay bros get going they really get going, they die out fast but the waifufriends keep the torch lit and the threads bumped for them

That's the power of Eligood, baby!

Who mogs her into irrelevance

Have you compared Fiora and Florina's stats for once?
Entombeds are the least dangerous offensively but they have very high HP counts which drastically inflates the ORKO threshold. Compare an Entombed with a Wight or a Maelduin.

Why is the SS cast so fuckable?

More like spme janny just doesnt delete it.
Fe7 eliwood threat was way fasterbthen SS.
Like it beat the fucking coomers fron stellar blade.

*Elibad

After training her, yes, but she doesn't start with good speed. That's the issue, they struggle so hard in the early game because they can only get exp from player phase, except they're too weak to do anything but chip. The only unit types they're okay against is pegasus knights, except they don't necessarily appear in the early game enough for them to contribute. Wyvern Knights still kick their ass because they have high defense. Wolt for example does jack shit to the wyverns in chapter 7 with effective damage.

EilGOD

And this is, again, why talking about FE is pointless on Anon Babble.
Yep, the 37 might Brave Bow enemies are comically unthreatening.
They positioned so randomly in clusters of 5 to 6 mobs in a 4x6 room.
Just deathball it.

Brilliant.
More opinions please.
Gimme something fresh, like your opinion on Awakening's Lunatic+.

Yeah, I did. Florina doesn't even have double digit speed and atrocious stats across the board, while Fiora joins as an average pegaslut (good)

Rebecca

All the poopsockers tell me this unit is SSS-Tier but everytime I use her she sucks cocka.
Granted I'm not one of those BITCHES that use fliers to skip maps... I'm cool like that.

Rebecca isnt bad tho.
She can grow pretty fast and can make real good use of all the balistaes around the maps.
And she does good burst damage against pegs.
She is also really easy to keep alive if she ends up in enemie lines due to her supports

With the shit FE8 gives you like infinite siege tomes I cannot imagine any of this being an issue. Sorry if you think this shit is hard enough for stat caps to matter you just suck.

Your fault for equipping heaby lances and not training her to become good.
A trained flier is worth more then any other good unit.

I don't know what poopsockers you're talking about, perhaps some people from 2003 gamefaqs? Rebecca is bad no matter how you play. Literally the only reason to use her is because you like her and don't mind kneecapping yourself for it.

Use two Legendary weapon uses so you can one-round the fodder enemies of which there are 30+ per map

In the game without infinite Hammerne staffs

We've got a genius over here.

u should use her brother instead

Bro actually routes the map

What a shitter.

Oh actually I meant Vanessa from Sacred Stones.
All white women names are the same to me!

they struggle so hard in the early game because they can only get exp from player phase

You know you have the option to pull 1-2 range enemies with archers by sitting at the edge of their range right? They will almost always go for it too because of the lower defenses.

She is absolutely terrible, what on earth are you talking about? Player phase only to chip for like 5 damage, it's insane how bad she is. Oh, but she can do 10 damage to a peg knight!

ballistaes

Which one is actually useful by the time you capture it?

Vanessa

Simply WEAKER Tana

LTCer here, can confirm

1-2 range enemies are less common early on, you're mostly going against 1 range units. By the time they become more common, your other units have likely gotten more levels.

Heavy lances

The Iron Lance drops her speed to 5. What, you want me to use the Slim Lance and have her deal 0*2? Is that better?

A trained flier is worth more then any other good unit

That's nice, I'll keep that in mind when I train Fiora and Heath.

stop fucking talking about the postgame if you've never played it
every map is rout

Use this bad unit on maps that hate her until she can be barely as competent as this unit is at base

Fuck off, I'm not using your scrimblo

ball like a laker

maps that hate her

Skill issue. There's enough trash for her to self improve while still feeding the lions share to Lowen or whoever you want to suck off.