Dark heresy

What are the chances it will be Owlcat's magnum opus, surpassing everything else they've done?

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No. It will be unfinished and buggy like all their games.

Too early to say and it would be hard to beat WotR.

RT already did so not really

I'm very hopeful. RT was a banger and DH will be as well. Especially if they add a Drukhari wife

Owlcat, writing wise, has only gotten better with each new game. Same for their releases not being a broken mess.
Though on a gameplay level their peak was WOTR. RT is a damn good system but it isn't as fun and doesn't have the same potential for variety as WOTR.
All in all it has potential to beat WOTR at release. If the writing keeps improving, and the broken release keeps being a bit less broken (no way is it totally clean though, that ain't happening) then that's enough to outweight the d100 system they created being inferior to the d20 pathfinder system they made for WOTR and KM.

I'd say about zero given that the companion cast already looks like a significant downgrade from RT.

Owlcat, writing wise, has only gotten better with each new game.

Agree for Rogue Trader, disagree for WOTR, it felt like a downgrade in terms of writing from KM.

Tau wife when?

Wrath of the Righteous already did

KM suffered tremendously from its last act being so caught up in the final dungeon for me. That said, it was pretty close so I get your point.
Still, my point does stand that, if they keep improving then it'll be their best yet.

Tau retardation goes from cute to annoyingly naïve and then wraps back round to being cute

wheres my muh waifu and marine noo!!!

Same for their entries not being a broken mess

lol
lmao
Fucking seriously? Going from "absolute dogshit can't even play the fucking game" to "mostly dogshit bugs everywhere but maybe I can finish if I ignore the sidequests" is hardly an improvement, release RT was GARBAGE half or more of the quests in Act 4-5 wouldn't work and most of the ending slides didn't properly trigger, a bunch of the talents weren't actually working even if you took them, it was a total dumpsterfire. Owlcat needs to have an actual, solid and mostly bug free release before you can give them ANY credit on this front.

I disagree, I think DH looks pretty cool. We haven't seen a fleshed out Kroot character in 40K games, Catachans & Corsairs are cool in of themselves. Ogrynsa re fun and hard to screw up, the doctor lady could go any way. It all depends on how they write them.

I think they're written to be *too* naive

Are you sure this is the proper diplomatic greeting?

Haven't they become much less naive with time? They know not to trust the drukhari, and not to even attempt diplomacy with the orks or nids.

attempt diplomacy with the nids

Tell me they didn't

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It all depends on whether they'll finally give us our reformed daemonette gf

Still, my point does stand that, if they keep improving then it'll be their best yet.

I really hope so, Owlcat does 40K well (maybe a bit too much grimderp regarding civilian over-the-top opression, but it works) so would be nice to see this entry succeed and get good DLC support now that they are integrating DLC into base game.

That is never going to happen for Owlcat or any crpg. The variables of any CPRG that's above 5 in its gameplay are too many to properly playtest and account for everything.
If a crpg releases bug free it's shit on the gameplay and class selection/customization front because it has such abysmally few choices. Further it's likely also shit at the quest and class level because there's so little to actually do and explore.
I' haven't played a crpg without bugs of one kind or another since Icewind Dale Enhanced Edition, which I only played in 2018.

It wasn't diplomacy. They just got completely and utterly subverted by a genestealer cult because they were too accepting of the mutations.
I appreciate the over the top stuff. 40k can be serious but it also has a lot of irony humour. Owlcat seems to understand all facets of the setting very well. I still can't praise their Mechanicus related levels enough, writing wise. Kiava Gamma was fucking amazing.

do women feel about pasq the same way we feel about argenta

That's not a woman. I mean the player/artist is, but the character's a femboy.

nerd who is mostly steel and whose flesh hasn't seen sunlight in years

Doubtful. Especially not when Jimmi and Marzi exist.

there is lots of "ill save you lady!" art for the rogue trader boys

Yeah all their Admech contant was amazing. The only part I wish they did better was Aeldari content, it seemed to end abruptly (both Crudarach and Comorragh stuff was rushed too) and Yrliet was all over the place.

Women do like Pasqal yes. Yes archon is a woman

I liked it for the weirdness (Outcast telling off Farseers about what cunts they were) but it had a horrible resolution.
I also am really liking their genestealer stuff.

Only if they make a girl as beautiful and perfect as Cassia

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Yeah the genestealer plot mogged most of the base game imho. Wondering how Lex Imperialis will turn out, the premise doesn't sound as interesting, but maybe Owlkek nails it well.

What's even the plot this time? I didn't read it.

was it drawn by tat asian artist who got bullied?

I don't care. If you draw a girl it's a girl unless you show cock and balls.

I don't know the identify of the artist anon, I just know, just know what's posted with the art.

Yes archon is chinese girl who got bullied for her femboy rape porn

Tzeentch worshipper with hints of undivided

Whilst that is cool and I enjoyed it for my first time heretic, I would really like to dedicate the whole ship to Big Blue. I am not expecting them to give you the option to change primary God ofcourse but something about a well oiled, scientific ship being Tzeentchian fits my idea of a second 'serious traitor' playthrough then just lmao we impaled a guy and have nurglings in the lower decks and khorne in the cannons. That being said there is a surprisingly little about of Slaanesh stuff on board, I was expecting the guards you invite to bathe with you being the outlet for that.

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no, that's the gore guy right?

Collection of Imperial Tithe and uncovering some stuff about von Valancius past. Also it appears the RT will play the role of passing justice in some instances from trailer

no waifu no buyfu

Catbox them.

Stop being a faggot

Yeah the genestealer plot mogged most of the base game imho

It feels like the writer of genestealer plot is very familiar with a subject of actual IRL naval mutinies, which is how it turned out to be good.

Obviously they'll announce a cute waifu for the straight men

It's Owlcat, though, they only give maybe one cute girl per game, if that.

They already announced our cannibal waifu though?

It's a ritual they do, they usually fuck it up when making the game but they seem to have it down when working on the dlc.

they usually fuck it up when making the game

Nah

So Marz is a girl here, she has a pussy, yet the author refers to him as he still?

It's some weird tranny shit

villain mogs every other character in your path

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this kind of art just doesn't feel like warhammer, even the memes don't
feels like tumblr and emotions and feelings and not goofy stuff in terms of humor

over 18

means you need an account

Anon you just outed yourself. You know we have to bully you now.

Depends, if you can lock up and interrogate everyone in the game, maybe

I kinda missed her on my first (and current) playtrough
Well, could be worser

they usually fuck it up when making the game

Nyrissa, Arue and Cassia

Nah, you have shit taste

NTA, but I have an account there to stalk community managers from several games for News, as I refuse to use pisscord.

Do you need more than one?
nobody is going for the kroot lol

His dick is tucked into where the pussy is
But yes, most of his porn is technically straight (no visible penis)
I think she's cute, not a fan of her voice though
All the good art is there

can you romance her? don't tell me you can

portrait

mattering

She's cute sometimes, but her writing is really annoying.

you can

What anon is on the left

He's not even a top ten character in RT, though.

as a dude?

Yes, although like half your ship romances her at the same time though

Yes, actually, having multiple cute girls would indeed increase my enjoyment.

The Ogryn, Catachan and Kroot look pretty cool. Another Elder is a bit disappoint, but I like that its a dude this time.
Still hoping for more xenos or adhumans. At least 6 of them so I can have a full party without any other normal humans.

Owlcat should add a haemonculi gf/npc/follower that'll turn your inquisitor immortal

as either gender

You’ll get a Tau husband and you’ll like it!

Emberpedo at it again

They medicae healer nog should have been someone like this instead.

man they really went all in with the romance stuff in a grimdark setting huh?

Article said that with morale system you can make enemies retreat or surrender, will that mean (at least in a few instances I don't expect every encounter to do this) that we will be able to get to interogate surrendering foes or haggle with them for important info or rewards that we otherwise couldn't have gotten, or even different outcomes for some quests. Any chance of Owlkek actually doing this?
Starrok did say the game will be slightly shorter, but deeper.

Of course the portrait matters, you look at it constantly during virtually the entirety of the game. I guarantee part of the reason Jae did so badly is because of her portrait being the worst one out of the entire retinue.

he's right you know

Did you look at her hand, shes almost there

And this is a good thing. Just because its a Grim Dark setting doesn't mean that love and sex doesn't exist.

I would like to know how you can claim sexualizing Ember is pedophiliac when she is 110 years old, which means she's likely the oldest person in the entire companion cast outside of perhaps Regill, and Owlcat themselves said she's not a child.

If they make either a drukhari gf romance or a cute callidus assassin gf romance, then every straight man playing the game will pick that romance, so why bother?

Keeping my buyfu stance until they officially confirm a waifu. Anything less is retardation or early stages of homosexuality.

She's stated to be a kid in-game

which means she's likely the oldest person in the entire companion cast outside of perhaps Regill

And Greybor, and Arueshalae, and Nenio

110 is like 12 for pathfinder elves. She also got raped so shes not a virgin.

shouldn't fan art mirror the actual thing though?

It'll probably be like Baldur's Gate 3 were knocking an enemy "unconscious" just means they're dead and they don't show up ever again.

None of the portraits in these games matter
Camellia had the best one and she did terribly, even worse than Wendy's who has the worst one. Arue's isn't exactly "sex bomb succ" either, she just looks cute.
Cassia's also isn't that cute either (not even talking about the mutations)

Isnt 110 like 14/15 in elven years, not a child but
Source on the rape?

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Ember is the youngest character in the game, age is relative depending on the race

I hope morale doesn't make the game like DOS2 where the optimal way to play is just stack 1 damage type

Have you not seen all the gooner art posted here constantly

In game she states that she was born when the World Wound opened, so she is 110 years old, she's a full adult even by Elven standards.

No, it's not, they reach physical maturity at 70.

That would just be emulating an established artist.

she's a full adult even by Elven standards

The elf in front of you is young — still an adolescent, by the standards of their long-lived folk. A childish, carefree smile plays on her face, and her wandering eyes linger on you for just a moment before darting off again into the distance. Terrible scars cover her body, and a few of her fingers are missing. A crow sits on her shoulder, observing you with its clever black eyes

No, she isn't. The youngest character in the game would be Wol'jif, followed by Seelah.

meant the style or theming, grimdark basically

Portraits absolutely matter, you are simply delusional if you think otherwise.

She is

Woljif

The second youngest one

Seelah

Seelah is 26, she's older than Daeran

If she starts the game as she's depicted in the trailer but ends with looking like a robot then that would be pretty fucking neat.

Lann: I wish your father was still alive — I'd shake some sense into him! What was he thinking, dragging a child into war?

Ember: Yes... I'd like for my dad to be alive too.

Kys Emberpedo

I gave you several indicators why they don't, but whatever you say anon.

Her being a robot would make people like her more lol

i can respect that

inshallah i will get a deldar gf to fix

Pre-ordering is shit even if it's literally a single day before release.

Elves tend to reach physical adulthood by their 20th year but are considered mature by their kin as they reach 100. The average elf's lifespan is approximately 600 years.

pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Elf

She's 10 years older than a fully mature Elf, again, she's not a child. Owlcat themselves pointed out she's an adult, she's simply traumatized due to the burning and general horror of her existence which has affected her mental state. I do not know why you guys are trying to die on this hill when it's indefensible, the most you can argue is that she's reverted to a childlike mental state, but she is not in any way an actual child physiologically.

nobody is going for the kroot

I'm only buying the game for the naked Kroot slut. If I can't get heretical with Ra'akhti then I will be very disappointed.
The Collector's Edition statue of her is fucking cool, too.

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Does the gave give you anymore blade dancer weapons besides those first two?
I got Kibellah as a dual wielder instead of two-hander and I've wanted a good secondary sword since the damn start. Also her primary is starting to seriously fall off damage wise.

The final fight in the throne room was peak cinema. If only I hadn’t been severely underleveled for it. Bonus points for actually letting me join them

Yeah, you get a couple more
Drukhari swords are also good until you get upgrades during Act 4

The average elf's lifespan is approximately 600 years

Damn, she wasted decades

Did you not see what Lann literally said

The Argenta thing still annoys me. Doesn't matter what they claim, whoever is responsible for cutting her romance didn't do so because of "muh lore". It would've been such an obviously sure-fire popular thing. And without saying anything more, I really hope we are on the tail end of this kind of game making and that people who make decisions like that never have creative control over anything ever again.

Yes, you get more and they are specifically tied to the DLC content so when you finish that (especially Kibellahs quest) you'll get more blades. There's also some you can buy off rep vendors.

Owlcat themselves pointed out she's an adult

And in-game they said that she's not, I'll take what the game says over anything else. After all, Akira Toriyama said that Goku didn't care about his family years after Dragon Ball ended
You're a pedo, embrace it, say "suddenly" like everyone here does, but stop coping

When though? I just finished Ablution in Blood, also done Janus and Footfall.
I noted a few armor pieces but not swords.

I know it doesn't make sense in any way, but I kinda want a necron gf in one of these games.

You do realize Embers father took her to the city decades before the game starts, right? She would be under 100 then so still a child at that point, by the time the game starts she's 110, so fully mature. Again I do not see why this bothers you so much, she's 110 years old, Pathfinder Elves are considered mature at 100, and Owlcat themselves said she's not a child. Let it go my dude.

I’m praying they focus on just one or two main villain factions instead of throwing six extremely watered-down ones at us in a row. I was so fuckind dissapointed that pic related barely had any content

in game they said she's not

nta but when?

They really don't state that she's a child in the game though, that's just you projecting what you believe and twisting things around. I'll take actual Pathfinder Elf lore and Owlcats statements as the guys who wrote the game over your head canon, thanks.

Retractable dick, apparently. So futanari. Basically tranny core.

Right here

Little one... what are you doing in the middle of this war? The battlefield is no place for children.

You are a child. You don't belong in this war.

You should come and visit us. Our family will fatten you up. A child should never be allowed to go hungry, all skin and bone.

or here they're constantly calling Ember a kid, a child, or at best, a teenager

I think after her quest in Act 4, you can also get some from the vendors but it's been a while since I last played

She's a child. Go back to gooning to Yrliet, leave Ember alone.

I was so fuckind dissapointed that pic related barely had any content

Have they fixed him yet? I had to use toybox to add a bunch of abilities he should have but they dont remain there after a reload

As did Kingmaker. WotR is their magnum shittus.

Woljif gets the kid treatment plenty of times too.
They're at worst teenagers.
Not that it fucking matters. Pixels are not children, so stop being a filthy disgusting normalfag.

Nah WotR is better than KM

Act IV

have to go through act III and the rest of act II with an act I weapon

Goddamn it.

so stop being a filthy disgusting normalfag

You're the one who has to make up mental gymnastics to justify your attraction to an underage character, if you were a true 4channeler you would just say you enjoy lolis and cunny

You are weirdly obsessed with keeping Ember a child at all costs despite the authors and the setting saying otherwise. Why does it matter so much to you that she's a kid or not? Honestly makes way more sense campaign wise that she's not, too, it would be insane for her to be with the Crusade if she was an actual child.

Go back to whining about how Owlcat won't give you a elven waifu

POV: you said you want to fuck Ember in front of Regill

Learns Ember isn't a Virgin

his interest immediately disappears.

lol

You're the one doing mental gymnastics trying to claim a fully mature woman by both setting and author standards is somehow a kid. Your desperate need to make her a child is honestly weird and fucked.

Did you miss I'm not the same guy you stupid normalfag. Did your lemming brain short circuit?
But you're right though, the other faggot is just as tremendously gay as you for playing into your normalfag mentality.

Nah, demons are fucking gay. Goblins, bandits, and Fey are genuinely more fun.

NTA, and I get where you are coming from, but there were actual child Crusades. Granted most of them died before they even got to fight or were sold into slavery.

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You can teach her to use drukhari weapons if you want
There's some good swords if you're not planning to use Marazhai

Ember got raped by old men in Kenabres. Actually, it wasn't even rape, because she fully consented to it, even if it hurt, she saw that it made them happy, so she was okay with it.

What am I in for so far?
So far, I like the voice acting, but the gameplay feels stale

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Regill invented the woodchipper

That's what I'm gonna have to do I guess.
I got her with that dagger you get at the end of the Magus fight since it poisons people. Good synergy with executioner I figured.

what will purityfags do now

gameplay feels stale

Why? How finding it?

voice acting good

You won't have most of it voice acted. What's there stays consistently great for like all but one of the cast, but ultimately it's maybe 30% of the game.

don't care.
druk gf.

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Both pics look onions-filled.
Like the characters and shit Dungeons and Dragons / Magic the Gathering are pumping out.

Yeah I get that but the Mendevians are supposed to be a generally Good aligned nation with a righteous monarch, I do not see all the Crusaders and Galfrey seeing a genuine child walking around with the Knight Commander and being fine with it. It would make no sense if Ember was an actual kid, nobody with a G (or even arguably N alignment) would be fine with a kid standing on the front lines fighting literal demons from hell.

We got 5 companions revealed. What others could show up? I’m betting on a ratling and a mutant

True. RT is good but it lacks variety but i blame the 40K setting more because of how restricting it is.

to be fair she gets the trickle down mythicnomics from you so they all thought she was blessed by Iomadae

vodka runes

Gay

There isn't one, they're just making shit up to try and ragebait.

Its gonna be a ton of humans

The cutest fish that ever swam in the sea of stars.

She shouldn't even be with the KC to begin with to get those powers though, if she was an actual child she would've been dropped off with the other civilians at the Inn after you encounter her, not taken along as a companion. Ember being an actual child just does not make sense in any way shape or form, which is probably why Owlcat went out of their way to clarify that she isn't.

100% VA

it will be unceremonious dogshit that appeals to neither normalfags nor autismos

FFG'S 40k TTRPGs D100 system shits all over PF's convoluted one.

Yeah, mostly. I think you have to reload a save from before meeting him though? But honestly, don’t even bother, Heretic is a wasteland of a route, not even worth it for shits and giggles. I switched to Dogmatik and had a way better time

no deamonettehost waifu

no beastman or any other mutant waifu in dh

not even a eldar girl to romance

Kroot with no tits

what the fuck is Owlcat thinking? i used to think these guys were into monster girls

I think Owlcat is definitely making a mistake with full VA without also pairing it with high cinematic values and production, you need both at once if you want to appeal to the bigger market.

For me I think it would be great if there were 5+ Human companions (not including Adhumans like Ogryn buddy) and 5+ xeno companions. That why you can go full "fuck xenos Human supremacist" with 5 human companions or full "love xenos space menagerist" with 5 xeno companions.

they've only announced half the party members

Are you saying I could get chicks by dedicating my life to learning and replacing most of my organic body with synthetic replacements?
(this has been my goal since day 1 anyway)

You sure? It seems that Owlcat will adapt all the 40k ttrpgs. Deathwatch, Black Crusade and Only War seems to be mostly human/astartes based, so it makes sense that they squeeze in the xenos/abhumans into Dark Heresy

Kroot with no tits

From the trailer we see that she walks around with no pants and seems to have a pretty big ass. So it evens out.
Also I'm pretty sure the five we've seen is just the five they've chosen to show us first, not literally all the companions you can get in the game. There will be at least 7 more I think.

Personally I want

Doable easy: Skitarii, hospitalier or famulous sororitas, hive ganger rogue, female vindicare assassin (but I'd take eversor)

Bit of an ask: Female fire warrior, storm wardens marine, deldar girl

Big ask: heretic astartes (night lord or alpha legion), the mentioned female fire warrior has a battlesuit outside of the main party hub, daemonhost possessed by a daemonette and yes it's a romance.

They will be all over your dick the day after you replace said dick with some sort of high tech doodad that they can't fuck. Women are stupid like that.

There is no way they will adapt Black Crusade, evil focused RPGs never succeed. Wrath & Glory is also another possible setting they'll use if they are doing more 40K TT RPGs, as well.

Zero.
Rogue Trader already exists and this looks worse in every way.
RT was really good, so this might still be good. But obviously not better than RT.

RT could have had more xenos/abhumans but they only did space elves for some reason

Five more Ogryns. I'm only semi-joking, having a full party of Ogryns would kick so much fucking ass

Common sense, you think no one would take advantage of a girl like her?

It is actually amazing how much of a downgrade this looks compared to RT.

We might get a Ratling Sniper this time around, I'm still holding out for a Temple Assassin though.

Wait a couple of weeks for the newest DLC to drop

But wheres the waifu romance??

kingmaker

better than wrath

i am convinced that whoever says that km is better is just shitposting. no good companion outside of Jubilost and Ekun, shitty kingdom managment, timed quest, the bugs, the saturday villian every month plot, the house of edge of time. literally everything is worse than Wrath and somewho you have people here who says KM is better because of.....?

She has outright divine protection, so no, I do not think anyone would successfully do so even if they were depraved enough to attempt it.

evil focused RPGs never succeed

Tyranny seemed pretty successful. I'd love to see more RPGs were you play as a villain protag

This game will have no cute monster girl I'm afraid

divine protection

Doesn't help her that much when someone tries to murder her

They can if they want to die by a disintegrate bolt from Andoletta

no pants and seems to have a pretty big ass

Still a xenos and not even a hot one. also post pic

That would be rad as fuck. As much as I would want a Ratling shortstack waifu to fill the Linzi sized hole in my soul, I'd would very much be happy with a Ratling who is basically just Samwise Gamgee with a sniper rifle.
Fem Ogryn.
I don't know if female Ogryns are actually a thing, though.

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I like Kingmaker much more than WotR, I liked the companions far more, I did not mind kingdom management, timed quests are only an issue for the weak and unskilled, bugs are part and parcel of every Owlcat game, the constant changing threats as the fey assault on your kingdom intensifies was great, and the end game in Kingmaker is honestly better done than the end game in WotR, even if in all three of their games the end game is the worst part of Owlcats games. Also the Lantern King is based and awesome. Literally everything is better than Wrath and somehow you have faggots posting anime girls saying Wrath is better because?

WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE HOT GIRLS?!
What the absolute fuck. I thought Russia wasn't like this.

no good companion outside of Jubilost and Ekun

Wrong they're all good outside of Valerie and the cuck couple

Tyranny seemed pretty successful

It wasn't, at all.

you can marry both goats

Kingmaker is more fun for the lower power scale.
Even for high power, Return of the Runelords is better.

Wrath isn't fun because fighting demons forever gets boring after a while and limits story options. Also Mythic just isn't fun.

Even Regongar is a decent companion and character, Octavia and Valerie are irredeemable trash though, yeah.

still a xenos

Hot

and not even a hot one

The big beak doesn't do it for you?

also post pic

Shit quality pic, and her little tail thing is in the way, but she's definitely got some ass on her.

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Full ogryn party in Darktide is always fun. Rocks, rocks everywhere.

How desperate do you have to be to want to fuck this

I just want alien pussy
I will take it in any form

Pretty desperate. I hate Human romance options in sci-fi and fantasy media and I want weird shit.

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I like it therefore it good!

Subjective opinion. also

i liked the companion

lol, Anon likes Valerie and Octavia. laugh at this retard.
That is the the only reason i played KM. still hate how underdeveloped they are

They don't look like that

Of course they don't

You are truly a colossal retard.

My guess 4 humans + 1 xeno/astartes

KMfags are the BG1fags of today

She will after she starts her concentrated human DNA diet (served by me)

Pick three for your new romance options.

Adeptus Maiwaifucus

MILFy Christmas cake

Sultry - Passionate for her job

Actual tech wizard, machinery runs better around her

4 Mechadendrites, can customize them as she pleases

Has vibration settings

"If you turn me on, love, I don't have an 'off' button."

Waifu of Battle

Hospitalar, loves to play 'doctor'

Thighs of thiccness (soft)

Never been in love before

Nauseatingly optimistic

Occasionally performs a minor miracle when you're not looking

"Silly! Every glass is half full with the Emperor!"

Genestealer Waifu

No hair anywhere

Anon Babble and never has to work out

Gives the best succ

Leg locks during sex at all times

Glass-half-empty worker dreg, requires love after long hours

"Holovids, ice cream, and sex. We'll be romantic tomorrow."

Cultist Waifu

Idle rich heiress who can't ever pick just one cult

Has weak magic when it's Tzeentch

Can sorta shapeshift when it's Slaanesh

Is lazy, bubbly, and happy when Nurgle

Bulks up and becomes aggressive when Khorne

"They only need one sacrifice on every sixth day... I think."

Craftwaiforld Eldar

Psychic powers

Tall and tsundere

Weighs half of what you'd expect

Cooks the best food you have ever tasted

Prefers cuddling to sex, amazing at both

"I traversed The Path of Spoons, fool. You WILL be the big spoon tonight!"

Tau Earth Caste Waif

Pleasantly plump

Complete nerd, obsessed with tech and culture

Adorkable at all times without trying

Brings home the best toys

Also has a collection of 'other' toys

"I blew a fuse! Oh- It's dark. Very dark! Find me! Hold my hand, quick!"

Cryptek Waifu

Cold and unfeeling scientist

Being a test subject isn't so bad - she's literally completed all science

The longer she's away from the tomb, the more she warms up emotionally

Ends up extremely affection-hungry, desires attention

Can project a solid hologram of whatever she wants around her

"The laws of physics? I wave to them as I pass, thank you very much."

No argument

I accept your defeat. go play your shitty prequel that got btfo by the superior game in the series. Demons>>>>>>Feyniggers

AdMech, Craftworld and Tau

I pick Tau Earth Caste nerd three times.

Tau

This o-

Earth Caste

Fucking shit. Give me a Fire Warrior girl that we can find a Battlesuit for and outside the main party hub she's Ulfar sized.

She isn't naked and the butt isn't even that big. If only she looks like this and not the ugly dinosaur ingame

The next thing you'll be telling me is T'au don't look like that, it's really tiresome how the Imperium keeps pushing this propaganda that all xenos are ugly and unattractive.

I like the idea of a Tau Earth caste who is unshakably loyal to you because you managed to snag a busted Battlesuit for her and let her fix it up to fight in. That would be neat

Well yeah they don't, but tau can certainly look more attractive than a kroot

What's with the nonstop waifufagging in these threads
40k isn't sexy at all

You have not listed a single thing that makes WotR "better" aside from your subjective opinion, you braindead faggot.

Cultist, how much can she shapeshift, can she change into other waifus?
Craftworld
Tau Earth
Where's the drukhari/clown option

Admech, Hospitaler, Cryptek. I need to CLANG CLANG CLANG

Sir this is an owlcat thread

as a RT it my right to breed Tau hebes

EVERYTHING has to be coom.

Yeah they don't

Stop lying.

She is basically naked. The thing covering her chest is like some weird natural armor plating, but clothes. The only clothing she's wearing covers her legs and neck.

Waifu of battle. Owlcat couldn earn billions by just including a loving sob nurse. but they add a modern day black girl instead

That'd be both incredibly rewarding on a mechanical and emotional level.
Hell, one of Farsight's generals is exactly that. Built a fuckhuge mech out of spare parts, and goes to war.
Unfortunately, is a dude.

The Tau in pic related is a nice compromise I think, give her hooves and it'll be close at least when it comes to the face

She's skittish about breaking the rigid caste system at first

Teach her the greater good is commie shit

encourage her to customize her mecha and put sick decals on it

"Yeah totally, fire patterns makes it go faster"

Commit several levels of tech heresy to jerry-rig the suit with an eviscerator chainsword in one hand and a melta gun in the other.

Obligatory admech character always one step from killing everyone in the inquisitorial squad over it

Owlkek will break the "muh white human male dick" chudcels by denying them an Eldar waifu again, meanwhile femcels and gays will get to feast on Eldar companion's cock. The tears will be glorious.

SoB
Craftworld Eldar
Earth Caste

I would take T'au Earth Caste, Fire Caste, and Water Caste over the first two options though.

White human male cock chads have been winning since BG2 came out, eldar are irrelevant

If the uggo black lady acts like Fabius Bile and was a amoral and emotionless mad scientist who is obsessed with obtaining data and only say gives praise to the "God-Emperor" as a way to keep up a façade, then she could be my favorite character.
I doubt she'll be that cool, though

Greater Good is Communism

I am never going to understand why people say this when T'au society is explicitly caste based which is about as explicitly different from and opposite to Communism as you can possibly get.

single thing that makes WotR "better" aside

Why try? You can't convince a retard who likes KM and thinks it is better than Wrath. but for startes the mythic path and music is better than KM in kM and the companions are 10x better than anyone in KM except Jubi which also makes a appearance.

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Not that much shapeshifting. She stays relatively human, but can change her skin color and proportions. Her favorite is making her tongue super long.

Where's the drukhari/clown option

Lost to the 2000 character limit. I'd never be able to fit more in there, and had to scrap a couple when making it way back when.

tfw no shadowseer that loves to play tricks and tease you, or an outdoorsy Exodite tradwife that loves to watch sunsets

Also, Drukhari cannot be waifus. That implies they're able to have meaningful relationships.

How would you react if Owlcat actually added a (properly) romancable female Eldar companion to Dark Heresy?
Would you be shocked that GW allowed it? Annoyed because it happened? Happy?

the companions are 10x better than anyone in KM

The companions are the only thing KM has going on over WotR

Honestly if they gave me the concept mechanically, where it's a Fire (or Earth) warrior that you help build battlesuit with and you get to actually use it during combat, I'd even be okay with the Tau character being a dude. I'd be disappointed, but fuck me imagine how cool it'd be

Last mission of his companion quest

You get ambushed by the overarching antagonist of his questline, everything seems lost

out of fucking nowhere missile barrage

he comes in with his battlesuit finally fucking working and just delivers mecha fanservice out the ass

kroot in the room

Well, considering the current best example of what is called communism is China, no one knows what it even is anymore.
They're much more fascist than communist, but literally call themselves the Chinese Communist Party because they can't even get their own name right.

Anon stop being an autismo nerd.
I'd be genuinely fucking afraid of the shitstorm these threads would turn into because I guaranty you the noldorfag shitposters would not let the threads be ever again. Yrliet as is already sends them into a melty at the mere mention, imagine if her romance had sex.

Music is better

Subjective.

Companions are better

Extremely subjective.

Mythic Paths are better

The only actually coherent argument you've attempted to make, they definitely make the game more replayable which is WotRs greatest strength, but ultimately I simply prefer the campaign in Kingmaker which has a much better and well thought out progression through its differing stages. You become way too powerful way too fast in WotR and you are the only thing that matters, which I really do not enjoy, at least in Kingmaker you are still merely lord of a regional power even at the height of your success.

krootfags get off to this

imagine the smell

Yrliet gets (deserved) hate from many sources, though, I don't think you can say it's just Elf lovers that dislike the character, as she is the worst written character Owlcat ever made, well, excepting maybe Valerie or Nenio.

Kinda a mixture of all three
It's more fitting for a Rogue Trader

Conceptualize the olfactory sensation.

meaningful relationships

Marazhai literally keeps coming back to you even if you play heretical, all well being well aware that he's really playing with fire

Best example of Communism is China

No, the best examples of Communism are the historical examples of countries and governments that operated fully under Communism for decades, as well as the fully detailed and expounded upon political standpoints and philosophies of its creators and leaders.

No. It's dumb to call the T'au Communist when a caste based system is the antithesis of what Communism espouses, and I won't stand for it.

just give your characters extra turns the game

Nah. literally only 2 out of like 10 of them are good.

Regongar

shit. only has one decent moment

Harrim

Story is shit start from finish

Linzi

steals from the treasury and is annoying as hell. plus not romanceable

Amiri

not romancable and also get rekt by a boar

Valerie

less said the better

octavia

see above

Jaethal

has only one choice to influence her and even than she comes back because she is super duper special.

Nok-nok

killed him so can't comment

Goats

Kenerah is okay. her sister barely exist.
Meanwhile in Wrath you have Daeran, Regill, Woljiff and even Ulbrig who are infinitely fun to play and have cool moments too

I'll have to take your word on that, since his ass was handed over to Hendrix every playthrough, immediately, when he's on the ship.

Oh no, Trader-sama! The real treasure was the torture we made you suffer along the way!

Motherfucker got dissected on a table while Slannesh was licking its lips, ready for a meal.

Ember is visually an elf teenager/pre pub because her growth is stunted. Her being that old is supposed to come off as a "wow, they really did a number on you"

She's homeless and a pariah to most regular people. My personal interpretation is that her patron is keeping her alive off pure divine energy and that's why she's not visibly aging.

Honestly, I feel like the Tau Empire is actually the closest example to a genuine fascist regime.

just spend two minutes in pre buffing rituals before every single encounter the game

I don’t remember the exact ttrpgs they would adapt. There were only 4 in total (including RT and DH), so it will probably be Black Crusade or Deathwatch

not romancable and also get rekt by a boar

Stopped reading right there, I can tell that you haven't played Kingmaker in a while and you probably don't even remember the characters' stories

dark heresy thread

look inside

Pathfinder discussion

No she isn't. Off KM you've got Ekundayo (arguably, he's pretty okay not bad), Nok-nok and Regongar. Off Wrath you've got Sosiel, Seelah (not because they're black, because they're boring), arguably Lann for the same reason.
In RT you've got Jae and Argenta (yes, her writing is bad because it has the shittiest fucking end to a companion quest I've ever seen in Owlcat games)
Yrliet gets hate because

She's an eldar girl with a romance which makes grognards and copycats shitpost

She gets you stuck in Cumtown which people hate (but that's not the same as bad writing)

No sex = genuinely mentally ill faggots spin it into various stupid takes including NTR, repulsion towards the RT, and whatever else

Being an Eldar/Deldar is actually hell. They have no way to truly escape Slaanesh, not even death. Even that Infinity Circuit or whatever it's called is only temporary safety.

steals from the treasury and is annoying as hell. plus not romanceable

I love my Hobbit book wife, even if she desperately needs corrections for misappropriation of tax funds.

Ekundayo and Nok-Nok

Holy fucking shit taste, never share your garbage opinions ever again Yrlietfag

Admech

Tau

Necron

It's tech-heresy time!

She's terrible as an Eldar, terrible as a companion both in her dialogue chains and her interactions with the rest of the crew, her quests are nonsensical and badly written, and ultimately she is just about the worst companion in RT by a country mile. There really is no redeeming her, and it has nothing to do with her romance, she's just badly written and badly executed on just about every level. I genuinely think only delusional faggots that waifufag her even attempt to defend her. Every other companion, even Jae, had better writing than she did.

The only good fate in anything Warhammer related is to be born an Orc/Ork or an Ogre.

Deserved for trusting an owlkek thread

Not a Yrlietfag, nice try though.

Guess what
They all were a "caste based" system in the end, than the classless-society communism "promised"

arguably Lann for the same reason

Better than Wenduag btw

Monkey paw time

Owlcat gives a female Tau as a companion

Is drawn to source, bald, wrinkly skin, noticable lack of nose

Owlcat gives romancable sister of battle

She's black and is basically Seelah in space

Massa! These cultists can't be trusted! We need to purge them!

Admech waifu

Cute portrait, great statline, fantastic personality

Non romancable

Ekundayo was based as fuck, though. Owlcat needs to put based black dudes in there games instead of ugly black women.

It's that time again huh? Yrliet is disgusted by you. She doesn't want you, she doesn't want humans. This is canon.

Even that Infinity Circuit or whatever it's called is only temporary safety.

It's worked for most craftworlds for as long as the system has been in place

Yes and no.
Lann's writing is consistent and doesn't suffer the same issues with his companion events contradicting his romance.
But Wenduag when her writing is good, it's miles ahead of Lann's. Only thing during Lann's quest that had me feeling as much as Wendy's stuff was him meeting his mom. That was really good.

It's almost like there is jack shit to talk about regarding Dark Heresy.

That's what he's saying. He likes Ekundayo and doesn't consider him worse than Yrliet (which I do)
It's not as if I hate him either. He's okay. I just don't think writing wise he's as good as Yrliet.

Did you seriously just try to say Ekun'dayo is a worse character than Yrliet? Dear fucking GOD just STFU and GTFO you disgusting subhuman.

go back to my RT save from months ago

spend a day respeccing & reequiping my squad

relearn how the skill system works

realize I hate the game and it's overly compiocated yet extremely shallow multiclass system

Why can't a Soldier just be a soldier, a psyker just ber a psyker, and a techbro just be a techbro.

A character whose personality changes from one quest to the other isn't good, stop trying to feign impartiality, Wendufag

nta but yes. Ekun story can be summarised as

WIFE AND KID DEAD. TROLL BAD. WHERE DA WHITE WOMEN AT?

even Jae had better writing than she did

Literally the only point I will disagree with.
Jae was someone's special snowflake OC in a game full of special snowflake OCs that was so special and flaky that she stood out like a flashbang grenade next to a bunch of night-lights.

I am rich, also broke, loved by everyone even as I betray them, am pretend robin hood without any of the redeeming factors, have a fucking awful fake accent, always have to have the last word, and invalidate most other companions because my fellowship counts for every other stat in the game

Her only redeeming factor is that you have to experience the administratum in her questline, and the other characters you bring with her get to have interesting dialogues.

She's terrible as an Eldar,

She's very young, basically 18 by Eldar standards (she only just started the path of the outcast if I recall)

terrible as a companion both in her dialogue chains and her interactions with the rest of the crew

I like her crew/companion interactions actually but yeah she could've been given more dialogue

her quests are nonsensical and badly written

The first one was pretty contrived, yeah but the second one in Comorragh was alright

POV: you are a dirty fucking knuckle dragging ugly as shit troll who thought he had the right to exist within 500 miles of Ekun "Curb Stomp troll kids as community service" Dayo

You can do that with every companion you know

Mostly safe meaning that it can still be destroyed. The writers love to shit on the elder so it's not really that good

Chaos marines barge in and mass sacrifice to slanessh

Tyranid Zoanthrope sneaks in and gluts on the whole system

Imperium destroys the craft world and the infinity circuit, ignorant of what they're doing

Orks take soul stones and snort it to get special warp powers

Admech radicals try to use the souls as a power source

Being an eldar sucks

That isn't the issue. If you understand how shit works behind the hood you understand the problem is that no matter what happens in a romance, the events for the regular companion stuff WILL happen. (which is potentially a problem for every romance companion, it's just others don't have such a vast difference in behavior depending on if you're romancing them or not)
And even then, it's only really bad in act IV.

You can absolutely argue that Communism fails to reach its goals of a classless system but that does not change the fact the the T'au system of governance flat out enforces class based differences and in fact bases their entire society from its military to its craftsmen to its breeding directives on that system, which obviously would make it intrinsically opposed to Communism on the most basic level.

Zero. They are improving from game to game, but not fast enough for it to make any difference yet

Same for their releases not being a broken mess.

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I felt more sympathy for my HERO Nok-Nok as an outcast than Yrliet

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They think fighting wolves and bandits for the 111th time is the peak of fantasy fiction?

For all the things I fucking hate about Owlcat games, I will admit its actually crazy how they actually seem to constantly improve in a noticable way. At least mechanically, all of there games have been superior to the previous one.

she's terrible as an eldar

Which is the point

terrible as a companion in her dialogue chains and interactions

Why, because she's a cunt to everyone? Again separate your distaste of the character from the writing's quality

"read Priest of Mars and got inspired to draw artisinall iorn warriors x femboy skitarii guro" is one hell of an initiation to the setting.

NOOOO YOU DON'T GET IT THERE'S A NIGGER ON THE COVER IT'S OVER IMPERIUM HAS FALLEN BILLIONS MUST SERVE CHAOS

Yeah, never seen them jerk off Kingmaker for being a low level setting? (it isn't you fight a fucking demigod at the end)

No. He's a funny guy, but that's it

I don't agree with everything in these tier list, but its still pretty fucking respectable. There are some characters I'd move up or down one or town tiers, but for the most part I agree with this.

Why are the Tau pushed so hard?
They're basically gay chinese communist aliens.

To be fair, in the first Eisenhorn book, there was a black man already
Midas Betancore

Farmer shitposting list.

gay

Straighter than the Imperium

chinese

More like an amalgamation of various Asian cultures such as Indian, Chinese, Japanese and Korean

communist

That's the Eldar

aliens

Aliens are epic and cute and cool as fuck.

liking the T*u

You guys seriously don't support a globohomo xeno empire hellbent on Human eredication right?

You forgot

post scarcity society but wraithbone needs to be mined instead of being sung into existence

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She's very young

That does not excuse her failing completely and utterly to highlight even the most basic element of what being a Craftworld Eldar is, especially when every other companion successfully highlights their respective faction and how they work quite well. She doesn't even effectively go over Paths or how the masks work, which is Craftworld Eldar 101, it's like the writer who was in charge of her never even read the most basic information on Eldar or what they are before writing the character.

Companion interactions

Glad we agree they're terrible.

First one contrived, second one alright

The first one makes absolutely no sense on multiple levels as presented, within the 40K universe, and actively makes both Yrliet and the RT absolute retards because the writer wanted a specific thing to happen and didn't bother thinking about how to make it organically happen. Her second quest is also a clusterfuck and it's only "alright" in comparison to the garbage that is her first quest.

Unironically the same reason you got waifufag wars that rival Evangelion and endless NTR spam
Valerie had one terribly written moment and we've been seeing the consequences ever since. I can only hope that if it's true any fucking femcel is anywhere in these fucking threads they goddamn learn never to pillow talk about previous sex they've had. Ever. Under any fucking circumstance. At all.

Maybe they will be the chosen opposing army for the Starterset(s) for 11th Edition
(No idea)

I do, as long as I get a wife that looks like one of these girls

Dawn of War had a black Inquisitor and he was pretty cool.
As opposed to a globohomo human empire hellbent on Human eradication, the Imperium of Man?

Dawn of War had a black Inquisitor and he was pretty cool.

This too

Which is the point

It could've been, if the character concept they were going for was executed well, which it was not in any way shape or form.

Why, because she's a cunt to everyone

No, because it's badly written and nonsensical, just like most of her content.

Aliens r gay. I just to shoot at them.

she doesn't go over the paths

Yes she does. She has dialogue for this speedreading faggot.

her quests

The first one is forced grimdark and is a symptom of this fucking setting's obsession with it more than Owlcat's writing and the stuff in Cumtown is start to finish.

I cannot wait for the next codex to unfuck this particularly botched lore.

T'au are not Communist, we already went over this in this very thread.

Eldar are not Communist either, though they are closer to it than the T'au are.

globohomo xeno empire hellbent on Human eredication right?

Not really
They allow humans in their empire, they call them Guavesa

a globohomo human empire hellbent on Human eradication, the Imperium of Man?

That's not their goal

They want to eradicate all Xenos, and Mutants, and Heretics

Good luck. because most of them are ugly as hell and will sterilise you because they hate humans

Imperium

Globohomo

anon are you retard? how is a fascist empire who genocides multiple aliens and mutants a globohomo? are you braindamaged or something

hellbent on Human eredication right?

This isnt true though

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If they were bent on Human eradication they wouldn't absorb entire Human planets into their empire. The T'au are not genocidal, (probably the only faction in the setting that can claim that) they routinely ally with and absorb other alien species into their empire.

how is a fascist empire who genocides multiple aliens and mutants a globohomo? are you braindamaged or something

Well
They include all humans
Including blacks and such...

No, she doesn't, she does not explain how they work or why they're so important at all, it is extremely bare bones stuff that doesn't even qualify as a cliff notes version.

because you keep giving them attention

because most of them are ugly as hell

I trust that Owlcat will introduce a cute tau girl as a romance option :)

character concept isn't executed well

Yes it is. How is it fucking not. You people just don't read. She could not bring herself to even do path of the warrior as everyone else because she felt that disconnected from the Craftworld, she left, and the Craftworld got destroyed, and she has immense guilt that she hides by blaming literally everyone else before finally doing something so incredibly stupid (trusting a deldar) it brings her to the lowest possible point. This is made so very fucking clear by her dialogue on the bridge, her interactions with Muaran and later the other farseer in Commorragh (forget his name) and just Commorragh in general. And from there you can either help shape her into someone who's proud of her people despite it all and wants to rebuild, or someone that utterly rejects her people's ways because of what it did to her and the craftworld.
You can argue Quetza needed to be longer to highlight that last part, but how you miss the basic narrative is beyond me

No, because it's badly written and nonsensical, just like most of her content.

Nice argument mate. Try maybe being more specific or are you just gonna keep repeating "IT'S BAD"? Maybe point to some examples?

The Emperor was the biggest globohomo dumbass in the setting and the reason most Humans live a life akin to Skaven. The Imperium is globohomo taken to a comedic extreme.

There are entire Human populations that have existed for generations in the T'au empire, it seems the "sterilization" is not working. It's funny how Imperium fans constantly claim this and yet there is nothing in actual lore to support it.

When's the PF 2E game

It's a shitpost, anon, anyone who says that dh companions look less interesting is a seething waifutard. ignore their retarded opinions

Lorelet here I know that the water caste are diplomats and the fire caste are soldiers, but what do the other two do?

will sterilise you because they hate humans

This isnt true though

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Honestly I never interpreted him as an African
More like some ambiguously brown dude with Jerry curls

0.0001 tau credit has been deposited in your account Taushill. Hope the plague marines take the other half of your empire too and let it rot

She's about as bare bones and quick about it as Argenta is about the sororitas or Pasqal is about the admech. Literally the same level of abridging. She gives you an explanation on what the paths are and why they're important to an eldar.
She doesn't go into the war mask, but then again you also don't see Pasqal go into Omnissiah = the Emperor, or Argenta go into details on how each Order was named after one of the saints that saw the Emperor.
Heck Yrliet doesn't detail much about the Infinity Circuit beyond its existence, or the different Craftworlds, or fall of the Eldar. I've seen you norldorfag shitposters obsess over the specific fucking "muh paths" as if that's the only lore detail she doesn't touch on when it comes to the eldar.

Earth = Engineers and mechanics
Air = Pilots
Ethereal = Leaders

tau girl romance

if you pick the correct dialogue options, there's an option to abandon the Inquisition and the Imperium and join the Tau Empire

Would you?

The Imperium is the end result of globohomo, though, all of Humanity absorbed into one giant mass of serfs and peasants constantly slaving their lives away for an uncaring upper class that uses them as nothing more than an expendable resource. Even Gulliman is disgusted by what the Imperium is when he wakes up from cryosleep.

"Why do I still live? What more do you want from me? I gave everything I had to you, to them. Look what they've made of our dream. This bloated, rotting carcass of an empire is driven not by reason and hope but by fear, hate and ignorance. Better that we had all burned in the fires of Horus' ambition than live to see this."

No. I will be Lord Inquisitor and she will be my sanctioned xenos wife.

New Owlcat game

Wait for hotfix #1

Wait for hotfix #2 (and #3 which is released after a few hours)

Wait for big patch #1

Wait for hotfix #1 for big patch #1

Wait for DLC #1

Wait for hotfix #1 for DLC#1

Wait for big patch #2

Wait for DLC #2

Wait for hotfix #1 for DLC #2

Wait for big patch #3 (and several hotfixes (3 min) for big patch #3)

Wait for DLC #3 and the gold super enhanced complete edition

Buttblasted Imperium propagandist shown the door with grace and precision.

Quick how big is this battlesuit.

About 5 or 6.

she's simply traumatized due to the burning and general horror of her existence which has affected her mental state

That's not true, though. In the True Aeon ending, no matter if you keep memories or not, she still retains this idealistic naivete. The only exception is when you keep her memories + you hardened her via lawtism.

Nice argument mate. Try maybe being more specific

Not that anon, but here are some specifics. She starts sucking you off immediatelty before even getting to know you. Why? No reason. She just does. Treat her like trash? Put her down constantly? She will still be calling you elantach-kun. At the same time she has nothing but disdain for people who make an effort to connect with her. This is bad writing.
Constantly tell her to fuck off, kill all eldar, refuse to search for her survivors? She will still come to you and ask to go to that place where the last of her people are (the ambush). Can you tell her to fuck off, like on literally every other occasion? Lol, no. This is railroading, and bad writing. Basically, the character is static. It does not matter what you do or say, she will still treat you as someone special. Why? Just 'cause. This is bad writing.
Take her back in cumrag and she will tell you that from now on she is your pet, or humble servant or whatever. Cool, right? Well, yes, except no, because the game does not acknowledge that at all. She will still throw a hissy fit and run away if you refuse to go searching for the captive farseers. And there nothing you can do about it. You can not remind her that she owes you, or how she said that she will be on her best behaviour. Hell, you can't even shoot her for running her mouth again. She just runs off, while you stand there like a retard. This is bad writing.

You forgot to add the 3+ separate season passes

Reminder they finished adding content to WotR THIS YEAR.

If only the Emperor didn't trust someone named Horus Heresy than all of this could have been avoided

Wasnt it last year or was I mistaken
The last dlc was last year right?

What are the odds that two thirds of the DLC don't actually add anything meaningful to the base game and just add some shitty dungeon crawl like in Kingmaker and Wrath?

No, the Gold Dragon patch was this year.

in like 7-10 years. they said they want to make a pf2e and most of there team prefers fantasy but right no they are not doing anything other than warhammer.

They aren't doing that with RT so hopefully they learned their lesson there

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If only he collected the forty thousands hammers of war before attempting to conquer the galaxy, none of this would have happened.

Alright, how about part of her first quest, which is a great example of the problem with her writing in general. You come upon Eldar from Crudarach in a fleeing ship, and you can either leave them to die, blast them, or take them aboard your ship (assuming you pass the skill checks necessary to do so). Let's say you take the latter option, what happens after this is that the Eldar are bumrushed by lower deckers and killed anyway, which highlights the entire problem with how this is written.

The writer has decided that Yrliet needs to be traumatized and sad about both the fate of her people and the cruel, uncaring mon'keigh that victimize them, and they will get that result no matter what, but they don't do so organically, they don't reach this desired conclusion in a way that makes sense. Let's go over all the problems with this contrived scenario: The Eldar would almost certainly never take this deal to begin with, it is nonsensical and insane for them to go on a ship where best case scenario they will be eaten by Slaanesh on the journey through the warp. But let's say the RT is just THAT good at persuasion, or the Eldar are THAT desperate. Is the RT a fucking retard? Why does he not put security in place or simply make sure nobody knows they're on his ship to begin with? And third, how the FUCK are Craftworld Eldar getting bumrushed and killed by a bunch of lower decker scum when they would EASILY overpower thousands of them?

All of these problems are ignored and they just die anyway because the writer has decided that it is going to happen no matter what, and so it does. Very hamhanded, very inorganic, very BAD writing. And this is typical of Yrliets content in general.

What's the correct choice here?
Did they add enough content to justify a save reload back to the start of Chapter 4?

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This is absolutely an accurate and correct assessment of the general content cycle of Owlcats games.

Left is cuter so that one I guess

Did they add enough content to justify a save reload back to the start of Chapter 4?

No, it was mostly a rework to make the path stronger, but they barely added story content

Let's say you take the latter option, what happens after this is that the Eldar are bumrushed by lower deckers and killed anyway,

I actually found that to be extremely funny, so I wasn't mad. But that's ok since the rest of her content gave me plenty to be mad and disgusted about

let's say the RT is just THAT good at persuasion

Actually, it's Yrliet that does the persuasion check if I recall
Makes sense given that the other eldar wouldnt understand gothic
Good to know
Thanks

Wrong approach. The GD patch adds new content from the very start, and it's spread thinly across all chapters.

For maximum reactivity play a Dragon Sorcerer who worships Apsu or an Apsu Cleric with the Scaly Domain.

threesome with a brash, agressive water caste diplomat and a timid, submissive fire warrior

Nah it's just one extra quest. all it does is make the path stronger and nothing else

Tau always start with left first. They only conquer worlds if they don't join willingly after like thirty years of them trying diplomacy and trading first.

Needs more hotfixes

Absolutely not, Gold Dragon and Devil are still barebones trash, the few pieces of content they threw them did not fix them in any way shape or form.

she will treat you as someone special

First off her calling you elentach sounds cute on paper but it's actually not. When it matters she uses your name, not the title.
And she accepts the mistreatment because she needs you to find survivors. She eats the indignities because she's desperate, because again, she feels immense guilt for surviving how she did. As for the railroading towards the start of act III, sure. But then again why can't you tell Archilleas off when he tells you to go to the traps location. At some point plot has to happen. And if you kept her around, her threatening to go by herself is reason enough. Otherwise why not tell her to fuck off before. Why even bring her along mind you, if you weren't going to help. What's your character's motivations?

she will tell you that from now on she is your pet, or humble servant or whatever

She doesn't say this though.

Actually, it's Yrliet that does the persuasion check

I think it's hilarious that everytime she tries a persuasion check things go extremely bad for her

gets leldar killed

gets youjustknow'd

Wrong, it adds a good chunk of extra reactivity throughout the game, plus you can redeem two NPCs. It's just that, per , you have to play a class that has a draconic theme + worship Apsu to actually unlock most of it.

Wrong approach. The GD patch adds new content from the very start, and it's spread thinly across all chapters.

Is there a yt video documenting this? I dont have time to do another 180 hour playthrough

It's not a "good chunk" nigger, it's barely there, and you have to specifically pick a deity to see it

It's not a "good chunk" nigger, it's barely there

Maybe try playing it instead of repeating your Reddit pals?

No, there are videos with some of it, but barely anyone will replay the game from the very start just to see some extra reactivity. And yes, it begins at the very first in-game conversation.

This is correct, all of Yrliets content just forces stuff to happen even if it makes no sense for your character or even her character to be acting the way they are or doing the things they're doing, the writer didn't even try to make it logically consistent.

That's, as I said in another post, an issue of this damn setting not Owlcat being purposely shit
This setting thrives on grimdark. Instead of just having you fail they had to make sure you fail in a grimdark way (you save the eldar in the situation but they fucking die anyway)
Which is to say you're right, but that's just this setting an eldar in general
Why did the Ynnari books end up with a daemon kicking everyone's ass and then saying "lol I'm just a copy nerds" ? Why did Biel-tan have to get blown the fuck up? I can give more examples. Because this fucking company hates eldar.
What SHOULD have happened is that you just don't find anything in any of the 3 locations.

But then again why can't you tell Archilleas off when he tells you to go to the traps location.

Because his lie makes sense. He tells you that you're gonna be meeting kunrad, not some random leldar hobos you don't give a flying shit about. Should there be an option to say no? Yeah, sure. Would it make any sense for you to say 'no' in that case? Not really, no. Achilleas and his lie are a much better plot hook so their decision to get yrliturd involved in it (at least in the way they did it) is nonsensical. They could have achieved the same result in her character development (lmao) without it

That implies they're able to have meaningful relationships.

Of course they can. It's just that the probability of forming one is inversely proportional to their age. Considering 99% of deldar are less than 1 week old adults (and that 99% of that 99% will die their first week), that leaves a huge, healthy pool of potential candidates. Numbers are exaggerated but not by much.

Reminder that the Tau almost got wiped out by the equivalent of a small imperial army during the Damocles crusades. The imperium only stopped because of the Tyranids that are more dangerous than weak blueberry pajeets

I'm pissed because they seemed to be going somewhere with her. She seemed to really like kids so l expected a plotline where she becomes the carer for the orphans full time, like she's finally found her calling. Then the cultist recognising her on footfall right before you blast him.
But then she just stopped having dialogue after chapter 1 mostly

Yrliturd

Find a rope and kill yourself. This is the last (you). I refuse to engage with anyone that uses shitposting terminology, no matter how the rest of their post.

I already did, it barely gets mentioned, most of it comes when you talk with the evil dragon pretending to be an archaeologist. It's just occasionally (very occasionally) a single line of dialogue mentioning that you worship Apsu or Dahak with no consequences whatsoever. Dahak in particular is terrible because you can literally tell Hal point blank that you worship him, like a fucking retard, and you can't kill him because if you do you can't unlock gold dragon

She's autistic after all

What SHOULD have happened is that you just don't find anything in any of the 3 locations.

That would be very underwhelming
Thanks

Also, Drukhari cannot be waifus. That implies they're able to have meaningful relationships.

There is literally a caste of Human/Dark Eldar hybrids living in Commoragh, and they're not all slaves. Plus there's a canon human from a novel who actually became an Archon's trusted aid, and has his own Dark Eldar lover.

Much better with the Void Shadows DLC, unclear about the Lex Imperialis one

She's a sister of battle, her job is to kill heretics so they won't make more orphans

the writer didn't even try to make it logically consistent.

There are rumours that she is a frankenstein's monster of several writers' efforts. Considering the pitiful state of her character and story arc, I think the rumours are true.

I wanted to make plenty of orphans with Argenta

You can't really blame the setting when every other character including Marazhai, who is also an Eldar, does not have this writing problem when it comes to their content.

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it barely gets mentioned

Two major NPCs in the story get new story arcs, to give you an example of how much you're lying about having played the patch.

Achilleas and his lie are a much better plot hook so their decision to get yrliturd involved in it (at least in the way they did it) is nonsensical

Trvke
You're also not forced to waste a slot with Yrliet in Cumrag, so you can bring another companion you actually want

She's not a sister militant though, she tells you as such
She was assigned to look after a relic on footfall but by the time she got there it was too late and she'd been replaced
So she is kind of aimless

There is literally a caste of Human/Dark Eldar hybrids living in Commoragh

There is zero indication that they are human/eldar hybrids, and no indication that they are even the result of natural procreation.
The dark eldar isn't his lover either, she hates doing that stuff.

Plus there's a canon human from a novel who actually became an Archon's trusted aid, and has his own Dark Eldar lover.

Is this the one where the drukhari accidentally killed him during sex while a haemonculi watches?

There is literally a caste of Human/Dark Eldar hybrids living in Commoragh, and they're not all slaves

What are they called

yrliturd has no argument so he blows a gasket

There is no need to be upset

She will still throw a hissy fit and run away if you refuse to go searching for the captive farseers

Doesn't she just run a short way and you find her waiting for you just up the path, and then rejoins? maybe I remember wrong
But yes her writing is unnatural and unrealistic. The voice acting keeps it afloat

That would be very underwhelming

Depends on how it's written. With each nothing, you should have her character and voice lines on the bridge get more and more desperate, the control on her emotions slipping more and more, getting more moments like the one during Janus where she starts yelling she's gonna DOTR Muaran for what he did before she cools off, showing that her training and meditation are fraying at the edges.
The slow descent into despair needed more scenes and moments than just the scene where she finds the Crudarach piece on your wall. That would help set up the betrayal and her late justification of it, as you saw it happen rather than it happening off screen.

Eldar

He's a deldar, nd his narrative, characterization and just fucking him in general is nowhere NEAR what Yrliet is. They're two different fucking stories being told goddamn it. I most certainly can blame the setting's boner for grimdark.

Is this the one where the drukhari accidentally killed him during sex while a haemonculi watches?

No, she has sex with him while his body is getting rejuvenated by a Haemonculi (without anaesthetics) because his suffering turns her on. Later on they fuck normally.

talking about the deity reactivity

brings up Hulrun and Nurah

Yes, those two are the biggest change, but it still barely exists, the legend and devil quest alone are way more than what GD got

The entire game falls apart during and definitely post Act 3. A good copypasta covering this:

Get to the end of Act 3 and get out of Commoragh only to find:

Argenta has nothing to say

Abelard has nothing to say (didn't take him to Commorragh)

Pasqal has nothing to say even with xenotech in his chest

Heinrix has nothing to say but at least he had the scene about his Sage friend

Jae's entire personality shift may as well have not even happened even with her request to help her friends

Cassia has a kiss option but nothing about her powers affecting you weirdly

Ulfar only has one new line if you already exhausted everything in Commorragh

Idira has a line about her quest but she also had a scene where she asks for help

Kibellah and Yrliet at least have a new thing to say about what happened

Like holy FUCK
If I were to review this game the lack of reactivity overall, not just here (but here definitely stings the worst so far) I would cut my overall score by 25% of the total, god damn it.

One line per character is all it would take, how was that too much to ask? Say what you will about BG3, but at least the NPCs actually reacted to your class and race choices, and it felt like what your character did was having an impact on your companions all the way up until the Epilogue Party, which completely changes based on what you did with them during the game.

There is zero indication that they are human/eldar hybrids

"n Commorragh, the Dark Eldar city-state, human-Dark Eldar hybrids are not uncommon..."

She will be in the farseer area if you go there and will rejoin the retinue. If you don't go there she will disappear from the game forever

Say what you will about BG3, but at least the NPCs actually reacted to your class and race choices,

Yeah until you reach moonrise and than it's all downhill from there. but you are right. RT has less reactivity than Wrath somehow.

Anon, it's obvious you're googling whatever I bring up as the discussion goes along, since you haven't played the content yourself.

"n Commorragh, the Dark Eldar city-state, human-Dark Eldar hybrids are not uncommon..."

Yeah, post the source.

Somehow

Multiple DLCs

Multiple years of patches adding new content

Enhanced Edition

They literally finished adding content to WotR this year.

The Achilleas plot was too good to waste on the scenario where Yrliet wasn't recruited. It should have been the main one, with Yrliet playing a secondary role if you bring her to Cumrag. Maybe everyone suspects her as being complicit but she actually isn't, or she and Argenta or Jimmy break out of the deldar holding cells together and have a little side adventure

I did a GD playthrough the day the update dropped, sorry for notliking the update of your favorite path I guess

Codex: Dark Eldar

That seems a reasonable resolution. Still a bit silly writing

There is not one (1, singular) dark eldar codex.
Post the edition, the page, a screenshot.

but at least he had the scene about his Sage friend

That's just a trigger to his eprsonal quest, got nothing with cumrag.
One of the biggest gripes is how companions never comment on anything. A whole planet corrupted by chaos? You'd think that pasqalm abelard, idira and argenta would have a thing or two to say about it. But nope.
Leave the corrupted governor in charge of the planet? Nobody cares
A dark eldar raid on your planet? Ah well, business as usual. Nobody. Says. Anything. Compare that to, god forgive me for saying this, Dragon Age or Baldur's gate where after every majour happening companions shared their thoughts with you.

RT has less reactivity than Wrath somehow.

I hope going Puritan or Radical is a huge choice. I also hope going Ordo Hereticus, Xenos, or Malleus makes some kind of difference as well. Enough to where multiple playthroughs feel extremely differently mechanically.

Yeah Achilleas being the traitor flows much better and makes way more sense, thankfully this is the result true Dogmachads get since they killed Yrliet on Janus.

Act IV was completely unfinished. I'm convinced they had time to basically flesh out Euphrates IV (the best dungeon in the game in my book) but they had no time for anything else
Quetza is a crapshot. A bad puzzle, two encounters. Winterscale is pretty good and gave me a satisfying "I fucking knew it" when I correctly guessed what was up, but beyond that, everything else is bad to meh. Also the fact you don't do anything else with his domain is terrible.
Chorda stuff was dreadful. We don't go to any of her planets same as Winterscale, and unless you've got certain alignments or visit a few off the road planets you don't get the full story with her which SHOULD have been part of the main questline nod hidden away. Her conclusions are satisfying character wise but the way it gets there is totally underbaked.
And then the heretic stuff is a mix. If you play heretic you get enough context through heretic only stuff to understand what's going on and the whole deal with Kunrad, Theodora and the rest. But without that it's a single dungeon and almost no fucking context. It needed way more dedicated to it. In general, the overall narrative of Theodora, Calcazar, the Necrons was very badly delivered. It started very good, but then just slowly fell apart. due to not going into detail. I doubt the majority of people even know the entire story, in this very thread.
tl;dr act IV needed to be like three times the size

whole party of sisters of battle please

dont even give me anything else

or she and Argenta or Jimmy break out of the deldar holding cells together and have a little side adventure

That would have done so much for all three's character development god fucking dammit. Why are some virgin incels of Anon Babble better writers than the """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""proffessionals"""""""""""""""""""""" that are getting paid for it?

All you're doing is talking about how it SHOULD have been written which is an implicit admission that the way it was ACTUALLY written failed to do a sufficient job because it was badly executed and done.

The frozen hive city you can visit in actt 4 is one of Chorda's planets

There's also the frozen city, where the sun has been stolen. There's a whole unfinished section underground with survivor, and a hidden tervantias clone lab. They just didn't finish it in time

You still need her to do something stupid that gets everyone into the shit or her story doesn't work.
I suppose put bigger emphasis on her testimony at the trial.

The Achilleas plot was too good to waste on the scenario where Yrliet wasn't recruited.

You know, not recruting her improved the game's narrative so much, that I don't regret it. I just always shoot her now.

I simply don't want Owlcat Dark Heresy. I want Streum-On Entertainment Dark Heresy.

Even before the patches you have npcs talking about your race, god, class and mythic path. compare that to RT where it's barely acknowledged that you were navy officer or a crime lord aside from a single comment from Konrad

I hope since they made the eldar a boy they will give us a d-eldar girl. But knowing owlcat, they will save the GOOD waifus for the first DLC

barely anything for psykers is criminal

It's ok, her story already doesn't work

He's still correct though, base WotR had more reactivity than base RT did, and significantly so at that. It's actually incredible how little reactivity there is in base RT. I will say Owlcat seem to have realized their error since Void Shadows has more reactivity to your background and origin choices than the entirety of the base game, so there is that. Still a very bad look that it took them so long to realize players want their origin choices to matter narratively.

I never said Yrliet's character was without flaws but the start of this argument was she's the worst character Owlcat ever did after Valerie and Nenio. First off Valerie isn't even a bad character, she had one very bad moment that, given everything around her, was an absolute fucking housefire.
And I'd struggle to say even Nenio's bad. At least she's interesting, which is more than I can say for the other characters I mentioned in the first post I made in this chain.

Reminder that It is Better to die for the emperor than to live for yourself. a moment of laxity spawns a lifetime of heresy

Okay PFbro, don't get ahead of yourself. Your game had a fucking kickstarter goal to add more reactivity, and the result was having most of it frontloaded in the first two acts, and with all the class reactivity being generic dialogue depending on the archetype of your class (fighters, paladins, barbarians, are all warriors, so they get the generic "oh yeah you're a strong guy" while wizards, sorcerers, etc are mages, so they get the generic "oh yeah they said you're good with spells right?")

I know right? People are complaining that full VA is going to "limit Owlcats dialogue" but considering that they couldn't be fucking bothered to write a few sentences to give companions reactivity to major shit, I don't think it will be any real loss.

Ekundayo (arguably, he's pretty okay not bad), Nok-nok

You're legitimately retarded if you think Ekun is badly written, I'm an unironic Anon Babblefag and even I see he is a great character despite being a nigger.

"I fucking knew it" when I correctly guessed what was up

I mean it was very obvious
The medusa only shows up in the frozen city, right? Also I recalled Marazhai having no special dialogue there

But knowing owlcat, they will save the GOOD waifus for the first DLC

Objectively wrong

And I'd struggle to say even Nenio's bad. At least she's interesting, which is more than I can say for the other characters I mentioned in the first post I made in this chain

Stop posting

she's the worst character Owlcat ever did

She is

after Valerie

only childless incels think she's a bad character

and Nenio

Yes. Nenio is literally trash. Yrliet is trash-adjacent

Yeah. Owlcat really need to learn to manage the scope of their games better, delivering a content full, concise three act game would've been far better than the absolute TRASH that is the unfinished Act IV and V of the game we got. The Necrons shouldn't even have been in the game, either, they were completely underutilized and failed to be anything relevant or important with how they were handled.

Hopefully no retard base building and colony management.
But keep the policy decisions

childless

That's you when you romance Valerie HAHAHAAHAHAHAH gottem

My heretical husband

I'd struggle to even say Nenio is bad

At least make your shitposting believable.

Frontloaded in the first two acts

Yeah thank god that didn't happen in RT, oh wait.

Still more than RT where you can't even talk about your experience in the black ship lmao. ffs you can get a +3 dueling sword in act 3 if you pick aldori swordmaster or have illusion of gods don't work on you if you play a atheist or have mind control not work on you if play a Aeon

Jae

Yrliet

Pillars

yikes

you can't even talk about your experience in the black ship

No, you see, you're just pretending to be retarded so that the Inquisition doesn't consider you a threat

I don't see why. There's no real consequence for her fucking up then you picking up the pieces. Her story, such as it is, is about her survivor's guilt. I think having to work with Argenta or Jimmy would be an interesting development

Yeah, unfinished.
In my perfect world

Act IV opens up with a proper debrief of Commorragh and hunting deldar stragglers, where you start picking up clues and get conclusive evidence that Calcazar was working with them. This ties into Heinrix's companion quest, and depending on everything else you can properly flip him to your side or not, but you can't go at Calcazar yet as your proof is xeno in origin. Also you take out Trevantias. This is a single planet (also put Idira's final quest here, overall it was good as is). Also first hints of chaos fuckery returning and hints about the weapon that Amaraut developed that took out Crudarach is that

3 planets dedicated to Winterscale, Quetza's the last one. The other two are you helping his domain as you try to track the dumbass down, maybe just one or two maps of encounters, can be used to get more chaos hints. On Quetza none of that dumb puzzle shit. Instead you've got either to hunt the eldar with Winterscale, hunt the eldar but sabotage Winterscale so the eldar can get away as much as possible, or outright reject going on the hunt. Doing the middle option is the best outcome but has the hardest encounters. Final bit works as was seen, with maybe a few things changed like the fact you mentioning Theodora nuked Crudarach

3 planets dedicated to Chorda. Get the proper backstory for her. Final "planet" is the encounter on Footfall except you've got to fight your way through the docks, into the Atrium and then into the manor. Along the way you can recruit the various pirates and scoulders, and kill the Drusian for what he did in creating Chorda (or not, whatever). Get more details on chaos

None of them are pillars except abelard because he's the one who runs that shitshow. Arguably jimmy too if you fuck him because he actually becomes your spy master. The rest are freeloaders and drifters that fuck off immediately

I don't get why people say RT combat is good. it consist of self buffing your character until he can shoot 2 more bullets than one to deal decent damage to a deldar or have to apply a buff/debuff on the enemy to make his armor weaker. atleast in wrath you had to do it once. in rt you need to do it every single turn

The medusa only shows up in the frozen city, right?

Yep. Someone no clipped into the walled off survivor section and it looks like Tervantias was using the medusae somehow

Finally confront Calcazar, but Chaos appears at the same time so you focus on them, Another 3 planets. Actually tell the damn story of the Valancious blood being cursed. Boss in one planet is Kunrad. Another planet you finally get the revelation of Theodora going into the Necron portal, what she found, what she made. And then the last planet is Euphrates IV as is with the only change being Calcazar is there and it's a race between you and him to get at the weapon. He wins, and flies off to the gate.

Act V can happen as it did, nothing wrong with act V beyond its set up I think.

"hey Idira what's it like being a psyker"

"You're a psyker too retard"

"oh yeah lmao"

Pasqal as Amarnat was straight up integral to the Von Valancius dynasty and the entire reason Theodora could make her power play to begin with, so yeah.

he's the one who runs that shitshow

Pasqal is your enginseer and Cassia is your navigator

The rest are freeloaders and drifters that fuck off immediately

But Abelard leaves in his good ending

No, they've updated the planet, you actually fight medusas there now, plus there are some cutscenes. It's still unfinished tho

Actually pretty solid, definitely far better than the bare bones trash we got.

At least that's more than asking the twins what's it like being a tiefling while you're a tiefling, only for them to not point out the obvious and describe in detail how they lived

This all would have been neat

I feel she needs to hit that low where she's basically about to go deldar without you helping. Selling you out was a big part of that,.

same with being an Aasimar and asking Arsinoe about it

Oh wow I haven't played that update, should be good for the Lex playthrough

Seeing the numbers go up gives up dopamine

>Jae

Gives you lots of profit factor and a good relationship with pirates/cold traders

>Yrliet

Very Knowledgeable on other xenos and can help with diplomacy for other Eldar
Cool

The dynasty existed and was a power player for thousands of years before pasqal was even a squirt in his father's balls.

Pasqal is your enginseer and Cassia is your navigator

Have nothing to do with running the protectorate and both fuck off immediatelty after the game ends

But Abelard leaves in his good ending

Stop being a speedreader. He continues working for you and running things planetside. He simply no longer goes on adventures and is technically not a senechal anymore

Considering RT is utter garbage with way worse character building than WotR we can safely assume DH will be utter dogshit.

He's boring. Nothing that interesting. Same with Sosiel, Seelah and Lann
It's not as if they're bad, they're just really meh
I rather a character whose narrative has issues than a character that's boring. At least you've got the high points.

Women don't play grognard CRPGs, only BG3 at most.

Just don't expect too much from it. It's better than what it was, but just barely

I feel she needs to hit that low where she's basically about to go deldar without you helping

Yeah true, that's a very important point. You go

come in Yrliet, let's go home

and she rejects them and chooses you
It really is the theme of an outcast falling lower and lower, like a runaway girl ending up in a crack house. You do need that, which you'd miss with my "escape hijinks with Jimmy" adventure

Very Knowledgeable on other xenos

Nigga, she has lore xenos 30. Pasqal and jimmy are more knowledgeable about xenos than her

RT is about having your talents interact in ways you barely understand, so that suddenly you're doing 1000 bleed damage per hit without knowing why

only childless incels think she's a bad character

No, only people that (deservedly) think that shit at the end of her romance was acceptable. It was a trashfire of a scene. Genuinely character ruining. I get the hate. I just don't think it's entirely fair to judge the entire character on that scene (which is a pattern you'll note.)

Yes. Nenio is literally trash. Yrliet is trash-adjacent

If "childless incels" are who hate Valerie, then "reddit reddit everything's reddit" faggots are who hate Nenio. The worst I've ever seen leveled against her is

She's literally "OH MY SCIENCE" reddit tier so bad amirite fellow Anons

Nothing of substance. Which isn't to say she's good. Backending the entire character in her last quest and making it part of the most obnoxious fucking dungeon in the game isn't good. But again, get some perspective.

Neat, I've only ever seen the Yrliet one

Nigga, she has lore xenos 30

That's just her in game stats, she tells you more about xenos in dialogue than pasqal/heinrix
Marazhai is also very knowledgeable even though his stats are low

Nigger character

lol
lmao

HER STATS DON'T MATTER IN AN RPG

The ordo copium has arrived

She's literally "OH MY SCIENCE" reddit tier

She is.

This, but unironically. Also in general having characters do stuff off screen isn't the best idea.
Unless, of course, you did a sort of shifting perspectives thing with act III. Like those WOTR adventure DLCs only contained within a single act. Depending on which combination of companions, you get different stuff.

No prebuffing whatsoever

No she isn't, and even IF she was, that isn't a fucking criticism of a character, that's literally just making a meme and calling it an argument.

The stats dont matter compared to actual lore, yes
You can set heinrix to have -180 in lore (xenos) but the dialogue doesnt care about that

I also hope going Ordo Hereticus, Xenos, or Malleus makes some kind of difference as well.

I seriously doubt there is going to be any sort of choice for joining an Ordo. Either you automatically join a pre-determined one, or you don't join any, and are a sort of free agent for the whole game - investigating all sorts of activities regardless if they would involve a specific Ordo.

for me, it'll be the ogryn, the kroot, and custom mercs(assuming thats an option). maybe the farseer too if he's not yrliet 2.0 calling us a mon'keigh with every breath

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Does RT ever get good? I pirated the beta leak and it was fucking ass. Couldn't stomach the boring-ass combat and really insignificant character customization/builds (as in no classes and shit like PF).

I hope the Farseer is just 40K Teclis. Just a weirdly nice and pleasant guy who thinks non-Chaos aligned non-elves are the bees knees.

Unless, of course, you did a sort of shifting perspectives thing with act III.

This is what I had in mind. You'd make it to the Pit, and collapse with exhaustion after Malice patches you up. Then the perspective shifts to Yrliet and Argenta in deldar jail

Warrior sister? Can you hear me? It is I, Yrliet

SHUT UP! VILE XENO! I SHALL NOT TALK TO YOU AGAIN FOR THE REST OF THIS TRIP

I am a prisoner too

Then you break out somehow and go on a little two- or three-person adventure, perhaps finding Jimmy as you go

perhaps finding Jimmy as you go

No, femcels need to save their broodmale themselves

Probably the case. Maybe we will have rivals from each Ordo that we could agree/disagree fight with etc. I really want a wide range of other Inquisitors we contend with, not just fighting chaos. Half the fun of being an Inquisitor is meeting other weird Inquisitors and their weird retinues.

Improved idea: whoever your gf/bf is becomes the pov character for the jailbreak segment, assuming you brought them
Overall I didn't even mind Cumrag as much as most people did

Okay wait how about

Yrliet still does her testimony at the trial, different is everyone else sees it. Still high grade betrayal but gets her out of the Achillaes plot

Still gets sent to the deldar fags and put doing junky shit

Perspective starts when they bring her to the few party members that are in jail to torture

From here the narrative would shift to third person completely and we get a glimpse at each character's thoughts and motivations. Also put in more perspectives.

Yrliet and Argenta bust out, meet up with the Comissar, and find Abelard

Jimmy goes full rambo on Travantias lab, busts out Cassia and Idira, and finds Pasqal and Jae just after they got experimented on

Haven't played through act III with Kibbles so don't know, put her in either group where she fits best

Obviously this depends on which companions you bring with you. Though I've no idea how you could even do Yrliet's quest without all the stuff in the spire with the dead and experimented on eldar. That's literally half of her companion quest (likely a big reason why if she's alive it's mandatory to bring her now that I think about it)
No see, the genius of this is you could do something most crpg's don't tend to do. You get a look into a character's inner thoughts and motivations. You could totally just have Jimmy (if being romanced) be nothing but "must rescue RT must rescue RT must rescue RT" like the madly in love but can't admit it fool that he is.
Anyway, when do we get some coders together and start fixing this shit?

NOOOOOOOOO, the jimmy scene is perfect the way it is. I still would want the change of perspective bit with yrliet tough

Many Inquisitors in the books have a non combat Savant type that helps them. I'm guessing we will have one.

whoever your gf/bf is becomes the pov character for the jailbreak segment

No thanks, I'm not giving up my kino rescue

nobody is going for the kroot lol

Speak for yourself fag

Almost nobody is going for the kroot lol

There's plenty of monsterfuckers like me around
You would be surprised

Sounds good. However as was pointed out you really need to be the one to personally save her from becoming a crack whore. So maybe just do perspectives for everyone but her.
At least giving a pov for Argenta would be good

all the stuff in the spire with the dead and experimented on eldar. That's literally half of her companion quest

Yeah you'd have to include this. Maybe during the trial it's mentioned that high value Crudarach survivors were brought in recently. This avoids the need for her to have cooperated with Marazhai