‘We tried and it didn’t work out’: CDPR says it shouldn’t stray from AAA open-world RPGs

Make Gwent

A pretty good online card game but didn't hit Hearthstone numbers so they killed it

Make Thronebreaker, an amazing single player narrative driven with gameplay centering around card play, it flops

go back to AAA open world slop

Can we really blame them? It sucks but they tried.

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Standalone Gwent was ruined the moment it hit open beta because they unironically implemented feedback from Reddit. It was their own fault.

make cardslop

"wtf bros why did we shit the bed?"

Open world games exist to eat vram and waste your time with walking and delivery job missions.

Fetchslop

those often deliver context and lore of the world, character exposition among other stuff though. That's the part retards never mention because all you care about is mindlessly mashing buttons and Tiktok dopamine hits every minute. Like seriously, just go back to your Fortnite and never come back.

A pretty good online card game but didn't hit Hearthstone numbers so they killed it

*The best card game on the market but they allowed reddit to chime in on actual design decisions and deleted what made it unique.

Thronebreaker was actually a really cool Witcher spinoff, but the gwent gameplay did start to wear very thin. They were throwing Gwent at the wall to try to see what stuck.

why ciri, why can't we play as our own custom witcher and build our own witcher school from scratch and customize our own witcher style. what a blown opportunity, these morons have no vision. the witcher 4 is gonna suck major ass. the blood of the dawnwalker is gonna be kino though

listen to this lore entry a fat bisexual wrote while you hold w

Thrilling storytelling.

why ciri

yas girlboss slay

But enough about MGSV

I was really with that game until it started repeating missions.

witcher 3

first 5 min: ciri wants to be witcher

good ending: ciri is a witcher

books: mainly about ciri

year i wonder why

I wanted to like Thronebreaker but gwent is so ass and slow to play. I think the game should have had a traditional turn-based battle system similar to DQ or earlier FF games.
Now that I think about it, wasn't there a turn-based jrpg on 360 where you had commanders that took turns with their squad of soldiers? Battle system like that would have fit this game perfectly.

Uuuuhhh Witcher 2 wasn't open world

They're talking about Gwent and Thronebreaker.

Their "AAA open-world RPGs" suck too

centered around card play

found the problem

Ubislop from temu

yeah. thronebreaker was never gonna be a big hit with the card gameplay even if other aspects are comparable to other cdpr games

Newsflash anything with cards as the main focus is slop worse than any open world game

Maybe but I think their conclusion is flawed anyhow
The next Witcher and Cyberpunk could easily be hub-based like W2

yeah
and instead of 30mil copies itd sell 3 and cdpr goes bankrupt

I certainly would prefer a game similar to how Witcher 2 is, but would it sell enough to the troglodytes that want open worlds in all of their games? Probably not.

why would w2 style be preferable now that cdpr demonstrated 2 huge open world games that worked well?

Like, you can play them linearly by following quests. Theres nothing inherently positive about limiting your options with the budgets cdpr operates at.

Play gz, but never play past mission 31

Rather have open world slop than card based slop.

good ending: ciri is a witcher

The good ending is Ciri becoming Empress.
Her killing some ghouls is not very important. Humanity has advanced to a point where the march of progress is outpacing the danger of monsters.

But she clearly wants to be a witcher, geralt's prodigy

The best games are almost always open world games. Batman: Arkham Knight? Open world. Zelda: Breath of the Wild? Open world. The Witcher 3? Open world. Elden Ring? Open world. Death Stranding? Open world. GTA 5? Open world. Old JRPGs always tried to be open world. If you're not making an open world game, then you're doing something wrong.

Do the mongoloids who are the "modern audience" really want open world slop so badly?
A lot of games are open world these days so I would assume even the mongoloids are getting tired of them.

Who cares what she wants?
Is it really that important?
If Geralt is suppose to be a good father he should make sure she matures instead of dicking around.
Everyone has a job. Some are more important than others.

You can put a lot more detail in hub-based games but I guess the imsim crowd is more loud than loaded

thronebreaker was pretty sick desu. i think the jrpg hermits here would love it. good for the mp gwent flopping tho.

you're thinking of valves vr game?
witcher 4 is going to have huge amount of detail regardless

Anyone who isn't a neurodivergent autistic fucking retard could tell he was asking why they made a video game where you PLAY AS CIRI
He's not asking for a narrative justification you immense fucking retard

Thronebreaker could have been good if the battle system wasn't so shit.

Gwent was always complete fucking garbage and the only mistake CDPR did there was listening to their shit eating fanboys and the mentally ill youtube essayists that convinced them otherwise.

gwent is a minimage that made a lot of people playing other games go "you know what this game needs? A gwent"

Spoilers: they will flop again

Not a single soul is working on CDPR new project, they all abandoned ship already

I wonder do these people also subscribe to flat earth youtube channels

we tried a card game

we tried a shitty MOBA

neither was successful

Welp, time to making nothing but open world slop.

its a critique of their own company
they dont know how to make a game that'd sell that isnt AAA open world rpg

W4 might because the Witcher gets away with 90% of the map being forest
I'm more thinking about the Cyberpunk sequel

all its gonna take to get everyone's retarded brain hyped again is gonna be a single cgi trailer. people already went batshit over the witcher 4 trailer eventho i saw nothing cool in it.

Who cares

She does and she is the only one in control of her destiny.
We know geralt story is over
Custom character would've been good but they couldn't pull it off in cp2077
So they are playing it safe with another fixed character

well, then you look at cyberpunk with its 1st person camera and environments being incredibly detailed and well thought out

environments being incredibly detailed and well thought out

There's jack shit for detail to be quite honest
I still liked the cityscape in general but detailed it ain't

has the power to teleport across time and space

can become a teleporting super ninja

nope, lets just drink this poison instead

said posion only gives power to males also

I played gwent for a long time. In beta it was unplayable garbage, when they remade it in the style of thronebreaker it became playable. I had a lot of fun playing gwent, the only problem was the long sessions. When they added a quick turn mode for several days it was a perfect game.

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I honestly think they would've moved from witcher but cp2077 didn't pan out despite the sales because it was probably a nightmare to make so they are going back to the roots

Slay the Spire is kino thoughever.

Literally kill yourself.

w4 trailer only got 4mil views so far
wonder if the shareholders are panicking

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She does

Do not care.

gwent is a minimage that made a lot of people playing other games go "you know what this game needs? A gwent"

Any dev who ever thought they was utterly retarded.

The first two Witcher games weren't open world.

I mean I can see it doing pretty well because it is witcher and cdpr still might have some passion and talent left in the studio
And it's the only big AAA fantasy rpg that's coming out so i wouldn't bet against it.

My only fear would be ciri being boring even if she is not annoying girlboss, I don't know how they'll make this compelling lady witcher while having all the same social dynamics other witcher games had

Card games are the niche of the niche, holy fuck what were they expecting? I guess success, but come the fuck on.

I tried to find an article talking how cdpr made ciri less annoying than she is in the books but guess thats impossible.

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Making a female protagonist is not a safe choice tho.

Nightreign is an open world game and there's no time wasting walking because the density of objectives.
In the case where you are "wasting" time running inside the circle when it's closing, it's more of a product of bad strategies.

I swear, witcher 3 is beloved by every single midwit normalfag out there

ah, look at me, soaking in the atmosphere while riding my horse to generic, way too small village #5. what's this? another quest, leading me on rails to dialogue or even a cutscene? maybe someone will even confess to me today that they're a homosexual! count me in!

I should dive down to treasure marking #238 on my map. it's just like working off my to-do lists in the office!

ugh, combat, lemme just mash the same button until it's over. finally, more dialogue, written by left-leaning feminists and transsexuals who absolutely despise the male-dominated medieval times and fantasy!

it's such a boring, mundane game, that has nothing going for it but looks and atmosphere. the fact that the devs never even attempted to balance the difficulties, which range from absolute retard-proof to bricking certain sections of the game because it just straight increases enemy damage+health, making shit like the sewers rat swarm encounter impossible on higher difficulties because the thousands of rats kill you in less hits that you take to kill even one of them. dogshit game.

Can you name an objective in a fromsoft game that isnt "kill an npc thataway"

This is how a fat bisexual looks in MGSV.

Safer than fake custom character like cp2077
With ciri they can have more interesting storyline and choices which is their usp

I played thronebreaker for a couple of hours until I got fucking sick of gwent. I think it was the puzzle gwent stuff where you had to figure out the right solution that did it, rather than just making it a journey to build your deck

Getting the rune from the guy inside the Nightmare of Mensis lighthouse.

easy solution would be her acting like nice chill guy.
otherwise i got no idea how they'll keep her likable for 100 hours
geralt, Marston and snake work because they are cool and never show too much emotion so player is free to insert themselves in the empty space but idk if it'll work for ciri

Most players pick male V.

Make Thronebreaker, a pretty woke game about a strong wyman ordering around and beating up all the weak white men in the game, it flops

Make new woke witcher witch is going to underperform

i think you are missing the real issue here anon.

I wonder why do people love watching at man ass so much

I agree that W3 is overrated but if anything it gets the scale right when it comes to settlements

generic, way too small village #5

Slavic villages can consists of 10 houses.

OMG Cardslop!

Whenever I check people like this they always play

looter shooters

battle royale

soulslop

VNs

I wish them death while screaming

doesn't know CP2077 is a first person game

Okay sar.

i am just saying writing quests and story with a set charter is more in their ballpark

and let's not act like, if they had brought Geralt back, people wouldn't have called it a cash grab, nostalgia bait, or hacky

I only liked the puzzles. Deck building made me fall asleep. I never beat it either.

Reviving Geralt was super hackfraudy to begin with.

Important Nightreign objectives:

Churches

You need to plan good routes to go to multiple churches for flasks before final day, without wasting time.

Merchants

In maps where there is no location to obtain weapons effective against the final day boss, you need to plan your route to include going to a merchant at least once as a failsafe. And if you do so, you also additionally need to plan your route to include going to a mine for smiting stones.

ignores all the great parts such as world, characters, side quests and character etc

way too small village

they have medium size villages as well
also has one of the biggest cities in any video game

so they can't do it again
therefore ciri makes sense

Ciri announcement as protagonist was such a dissapointment.
Not only is she boring and tiresome but you had an opportunity to make something cool here. New region, new characters, customazible witchers.
I don't remember if it's the books or the games but there was a line how in the south there are plenty of monsters and work for witchers. So all they had to do is to make BnW 2.0 with custom made mc. You can even insert niggers in here and they will look organic.

other companies are making games that arent related to witcher franchise
you can buy those instead

what feedback did reddit give?

It's also possible to enjoy all those types of games. Although I haven't played any looter shooter thay wasn't complete slop

because ciri is cute

That is what I mean
They enjoy bottom of the barrel mass produced slop
And then they go complain about card games.

Most people didn't played the DLC so they think he is still around doing Witcher shit.

This is kinda dirty because more often than not you need to clear or kill something to get X so you can do Y.
For example, upgrading a weapon in ER needs you to kill stuff (e.g. Godskin Noble).

by your logic anything past Desmond games is not AssCreed

still there are just too many reasons for no geralt
but making a compelling 100+ long AAA rpg with fem protag will be a massive task

It's a superficial opinion. There are all sorts of card games with varying degrees of quality. People don't want to get out of their comfort zone so they don't even try.

Is it true that they made Ciri a trans girl?

Becoming empress means she goes back to her daughter fucking father
Cdpr was retarded enough to make that an option in their game

Its very easy to end up in a Dr. Who situation. Safest choice was just doing Geralt again or a custom character that can look like Geralt.

that reality was in the books, not in the game

Thinking of card games reminded me of this. Were the hand of fate games any good? I remember watching Total biscuit play the first one like a decade ago, it seemed to have a nice atmosphere but the combat was a Batman Arkham clone.

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Boo hoo.

They nailed the atmosphere though - the scenery moving between all these small villages was great with some nice sunsets, visual points of interest in the distance and discovering quests by going to places and talking to people without having to activate them. It really felt like a real world that things were going on in with the random quests which is what brought me back to replaying it along with the variations in each side quest. The combat, alchemy, crafting is pretty mediocre

I don't understand why they went to a worse combat system vs human enemies than W2

I'm not against playing as Ciri and I'll wait for their in-game explanation as to why she'd go through the Trial.

Witcher (the games) has exactly zero to do with Witcher (the books and franchise in general) past first game and even that is a stretch. CDPR were doing fanfiction from the get go.

slavic settlements do not consist of just 5 straw huts in an open field, populated by less than 15 people, despite what video games and movies try to tell you. that's literally african tribe tier size. the average medieval village consisted of at least 4 times that amount of people, but more realistic would be 10 times the amount.

ignores the gameplay of a video game

calls writing and characters like 'a hunter you meet outside of the village immediately tells you he is homosexual' """great"""

this is what I mean when I say that witcher 3 is a midwit magnet
and the city is just a giant set piece and about is interactive as a barren rock with a few quest npcs standing around.

They nailed the atmosphere though

yeah, props for making foilage move in the wind, I felt right at home. problem is, I had to continue a movie game masqueraded as an RPG, so I quit before I died of boredom.

Have they tried making an anime based on it?

you are such a whiney faggots,
name some good games

Gwent failing was their own damn fault, it was a fun niche game with decent numbers, but they decided that wasnt enough
They started listening to steamers. Removed back row and added provisions. Best part is the retard Swim, who gave them those ideas, immediately bounced when they made those changes.

bitcher3 is good open world

I loved beta gwent