Holy fuck, it gets worse, AHAHA-
Can they fuck up any harder?
What a retarded thread
They're going to slow-drip the backwards compatibility while paywalling it behind $20 "updates" that will probably get hiked to $30 by the end of the generation.
So the Switch 2 is actually emulating Switch 1 games instead of running them natively? That’s weird. Even the Wii U had Wii and GC built-in.
If this isn't bait.
How could nvidia possibly fuck up maxwell > ampere
it's basically the same shit
it IS the same shit for all intents and purposes
There was a list of mostly literally who games in their list. Most games have zero problems.
Nintendo redid the entire thing, didn't reiterate what was done. Also since OP is a turbo fag, check the list
nintendo.com
Vast majority of games work fine
It is bait. The list was maybe 100 games out of 15,000. Withholding info to mislead.
Over 15,000 games
The Nintendo Switch has games, what can I say
AFAIK there's never been a console that had perfect backwards compatibility. There was around 50 PS1 games that didn't work on PS2, Xbox has a whole page dedicated to games that aren't backwards compatible, etc.
I'm guessing this is due to Nvidia's broken implementation of graphics standards.
Some Pascal+ optimisation is probably in there that's fucked and it'll be something like a movie on a loading screen or a way a texture's scaled. Something that SHOULD work but, nvidia cheat and half ass things.
It could be something as simple as a change as something in the media engine.
eh, idk about that one bub.
My concern is on Nvidia's side.
eh, idk about that one bub.
Please, up your context window on your AI chatbot.
I implore you, there's context to that statement that does not need to result in a quote and a PDF dump without issues listed. Also if your chatbot is run by James Jones: FUCK YOU JAMES JONES, GET SHOT.
As anon shows, it’s mostly shovelware and a complete non-issue that you’re blowing out of proportion because you’re a dishonest Sony nigger faggot. And very likely from a third world country.
You console warring fucks strip the absolute fun out this board. Nothing interesting can be discussed in your presence. If people want to talk about the potential of scanning incompatible games for similar calls and then seeing IF it's an issue present on the same NVDA hardware, that's interesting.
You just want to sling shit because you feel your company is attacked. I feel like gamefaqs or an IRC lobby is better for those actions so I implore you to up your post quality or fuck off.
IF the original Yuzu and Ryujinx development filed still exist with comments, these could be quickly scanned to see if they had compatibility issues in the past, which is a faster process than debugging them one by one.
JAMES JONES GET OUT.
Three nintendo consoles with perfect backwards compatibility:
Gameboy Color
Nintendo DS
Nintendo Wii
switch2 wont be different btw, out of all the games, the only one that's deemed 100% incompatible is the cardboard vr set because the screen is too big.
So just like every console this generation? Who cares?
This was a better link for context: It allows for both of the PDFs that matter to show and from that you can also gleam that the issues with startup vs the issues in game almost certainly relate to the render process.
This is almost certainly going to be an NVDA issue in the end, but I suppose people will disregard it and move on.
You're assuming that these compatibility listings are at all in-depth, but they're just a table of known problem titles with no further information (aside from a few major nintendo titles with more specific controller-compatiblity disclaimers), so there isn't much discussion to be had about this.
Yet another shitty bait thread.
Snoytranny desperation is increasing, I see. They already tested literally15k THOUSAND games, probably 14.5k of them being shovelware, and nearly all of them were compatible.
Game: Nintendo Labo Toy-Con 04: VR Kit
Publisher: Nintendo
Details: The Nintendo Switch 2 console cannot be inserted into the Toy-Con VR Goggles accessory, so this game cannot be played.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Why don't they just release a patch for the cardboard headset?
It's only shit like labo or ring fit adventure that won't work since the dimensions of the hardware are not the same.
Because that shit was basically stapled into the Wii U, just like the Wii had a Gamecube in it, like the 3DS had a DS in it, how the DS had a game boy advance in it.
The Switch 2 has nothing from the Switch in it so somewhere in the range of 0.01% of games have known issues. Games like Ring Fit still work since Switch 1 accessories work with Switch 2, you just obviously need the old joycons.
hey bro let me just update your fucking cardboard to be bigger
but they're just a table of known problem titles with no further information (aside from a few major nintendo titles with more specific controller-compatiblity disclaimers), so there isn't much discussion to be had about this.
There's information TO be found, most of them are going to share something in common.
Thanks to how switch emulation was developing, these problems were being chipped away at until Nintendo stepped in. It should still be possible to debug them even with what we have available but it's an incredible amount of work for a community that Nintendo has tried to kill at the roots.
The most interesting part is how it relates to Nvidia hardware. Ironically had things been open sourced, it would have been even easier to compare. It's a tale of a few interesting things at least.
Nintendo wouldn't want it documented because it also reflects poorly on NVDA. To Nintendo, it should have been easy to spot from the beginning if NVDA had shared their architecture with them.
Nintendo will make sure Super Mario 3D All Stars can't be played on Switch 2, and I'll have no idea whether I should laugh or get pissed. Both?
Do you guys really wanted an tegra X1 inside just to make the system more hot than normal? Switch 2 is literally 10x stronger than the switch 1 at least it's on nvidia's website.. it can emulate the system with ease like any modern PC. The problem is just battery life.
Xbox has a whole page dedicated to games that aren't backwards compatible
To be fair those games arent BC because of licenses fuckery and such. MS had a BC team dedicated to adjusting titles case by case for years so its not even hardware/software issue but due to how licensing works. No one is going to put BC team on some shovelware too. Nintendo is going to fix their titles but I doubt third parties will do so. Remedy might fix Alan Wake because they maybe will shit out Switch 2 port of second game i guess but thats it.
If you're curious, the only confirmed no so far is the fucking labo vr headset? Remeber that thing? Cause I sure didn't till I checked that page. Apparently it required shoving the actual switch into a cardboard slot, and the switch 2 is too big to fit so it's not compatable.
They even got the other cardboard shitgames and ring fit to mostly work becuase you can use switch 1 joycons on switch 2.
Some people wanted that so it'd be easier to hack and emulate
trusting nvidia graphs
broooo
does it even have both axes labelled
Gameboy Color
Road Rash doesn't work. It uses a bug in the hardware that was fixed in the GBC.
You're correct on the others, though. Everything boots, but you can't really play Boktai on a DS or PSO on a Wii, so I wouldn't personally count those as perfect compatibility.
That's the entire sample, not the ones that don't work.
play switch game on switch 2 in handheld mode
it still runs 720p on the 1080p screen
system can't just pass a flag to the game saying to run in "dock" mode for 1080p resolution, because that would also make it disable touch screen controls(if thee game in question has those)
I don't want to buy a switch, but I'd love people to be able to use a 5nm X1 in there, there's risks it could have been broken open but, in the choice of design vs compatibility for end users?
I'm a consumer rights slut, so I say fuck 'em, have a coprocessor
If it had a tregra X1 then we would not have games running better. It was going to be a switch 1 mode with all the problems we currently have on the old hardware plus the heat. Just let the system emulate the whole thing. It's literally strong enough to do it. About hacking and emulate I have no idea honestly.
Yes, also means you're never going to emulate Switch 2 games, you better start saving up
They do though, they make games for kids who have no money and get their parents to buy everything
It's not Nvidia's fault that Nintendo is hopeless with anything remotely technological. Just look at their sorry excuse for voice chat that's worse than Skype was 20 years ago for another example. Or their netcode that runs on Windows 98 servers.
Every Xbox one game works on series x and so few ps4 games don't work on ps5 that you might as well say ps5 too.
Read the page, Ring Fit (and others) works if you have the older joycons
Not to mention that PS3 games don't work on PS5. Talk about grim.
Last I checked, most games are in the "it boots, but needs further testing" category, which is still far from a guarantee that they're compatible.
most games
less than 100 games out of 15000
most games
It said it has issues. Nothing there said it "boots". It's vague but it can be anything.
To be fair, RPCS3 didn't even get good until a couple years ago and that's with the lower standards for an amateur emulator than an official product. Sony's probably waiting for the PS6 to even try emulating the PS3 themselves.
You realize they're talking about ARMS and LABO right?
they should have just used yuzu/ryujinx
Why the fuck wouldn't ARMS work?
Not even those emulators have a perfect compatibility list anon...
they could if nintendo helped them
The emulators that shit themselves running fucking Kirby
So basically
Nintendo switch 2 is digital only
Doom Eternal
Dead by Daylight
Fortnite
Pizza Tower
Rocket League
Jackbox
These are huge games.
Didn't Microsoft spend years slowly updating certain Xbox and Xbox 360 titles to be backwards compatible with each subsequent console? I remember there were updates with more games being announced as finally being backwards compatible with newer consoles. How is this any different?
There was around 50 PS1 games that didn't work on PS2
Which only shows how fucking shit the industry is today with you fanboys letting them get away with shitty decisions.
Most of the PS3 games I want to emulate are still not compatible.
Nintendo consoles always had it because they just shoved the previous console inside the new one
until a couple years ago
Anon they still update obsolete instruction that like 5 Intel CPUs have because they want you to bruteforce ass performance lol. RPCS3 been stagnant for years and majority of Sonys first party titles still require a lot of patches and some are only playable on high end CPUs.
And they will all be patched eventually. A literal nothing burger.
I forgot to mention that I'm trans. I hope that helps.
Imagine the Nintendo intern that had to check if HENTAI GIRL PUZZLE 3 was working fine on the Switch 2
Or their netcode that runs on Windows 98 servers.
That was fake news. People did not understand that it was simply an open-source library with some old code left behind in it with a single file mentioning older windows versions for legacy compatibility if your environment needs to explicitly implement it. It's a common lib used for network comms, if I remember which library it was I'll post it. Like a game of telephone, this background info got distorted to the point of misinformation.
Dunno about DS... Can it play Yoshi Topsy Turbi?
vegans continuing their endless seething
how is it possible to spend this many years of one's life obsessed over a fucking tablet?
You can play PSO offline just fine.
Yeah, shit like LABO won't be compatible.
Mega Man Battle Network 4 (particularly Blue Moon) has lock-up and massive slowdown issues in certain areas when played on a DS.
Also, there are even Game Boy games that don't work on the GBC or GBA because they relied on little processing tricks only possible on the original Game Boy.
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