Does this make the game good?

it's nuts

if you use photomode, the game takes time to add extra bullshit

wow!

frfr why they make unc move so slow

this tech is from 25 years ago and has nothing to do with their decisions around controls

No, what makes it good is the realistic horse testicle simulation.

wasn't a problem in gta san andreas
but now that they chase "realism" turning your character takes 10 seconds and he needs 5 m of clearance ahead of him or else he'll stumble and it'll take another 10 seconds for him to recover

We could’ve gotten an entire chapter of Arthur trying to recover from TB in New Austin but rockstar needed shrinking balls and squirrel eye reflections to impress the journos.

ok, what the absolute fuck does that have to do with a cubemap reflection?

So it's just a simple cube map?
Both of these are the same blue sky with a tree line and yellow grass

Maybe its her FUR!

the chase for realism

NIGGA THATS NU-

*Beep beep beep hummmmmmmm*

AAACCCKKK

its not a reflection of whats actually behind the camera
its a generic scenery they use no matter where you are
a lot of other games do this like valorant's op scope

I mean that's pretty fuckin neato

IS THAT A HECKIN' CUBEMAPERINO!?!!? IN A BUNNY'S EYES!?!!!!??????

I appreciate how detailed RDR 2 is, but I wish the developer focused on making the game 60 frames per second instead of rendering every hair on every animal in the map.

One could argue that putting that level of detail in their game would mean that the rest of the game would too. Personally, I would agree with that argument, RDR2 is a masterpiece.

but cubemaps have been used in games since 1999 it has nothing to do with realism.
chasing realism is ray tracing. just say you don't like how slow it is instead of trying to launder your statements into some kind of observation about technical focus

I'm playin Nut

Valorant is not dynamic though that's the biggest difference

youtu.be/57OsgBI9SAw?si=p0fCUpHfMRAQGwnU
I love stupid simulation shit like ragdoll physics over actual graphical power.

why don't you play Nut outside?

it all feeds into each other
you chase for realism, you chase for super realistic reflections and shitty ass controls

bring the squirrel indoors and i guarantee it will show the same generic scenery in its eye

Nigga that's nuts

WHY?

WHAAAAAAAAAAT

but the reflections aren't realistic that's my entire point. should they also remove euphoria because it's more realistic than ragdolls? should they remove soft body car damage from GTA because it's more realistic than premade damage models?

it's this kind of attitude that lead to GTA V being a downgraded shitpile

they should add a breathing button. you have to press it every second or else your character dies.

they should add an IQ test and you need to score above 60 before you can play the game at all
that could solve your problem

you could press and hold R2 to breathe in, then let go and press and hold L2 to breathe out

yeah upon second thought that is a really good comparison to cubemaps as a concept

Not entirely true, the reflection only renders when you zoom in on its eyes, most of the time it just uses a very low-poly model

dat hideous shadow of the colossus tier fur rendering trick

so fucking ugly

muh cubemaps

the original post's broader point refers to the general realism of the game, how it so captures the essence of realism that it even has the fine detail of the world reflecting on the eyeball of a small mammal. I am pointing out how that chase for realism also leads to cancerous shit.

that's a ridiculous and arbitrary place to draw the line. the cubemaps already exists for the location and is being used on all reflective surfaces. Why not say "ugh these textures are trying to make polygons look like real life shit, what a waste they should just be grey cubes instead"
like why is the squirrel eye your limit?

there's no detail in rdr2, it's a static, boring game with no physics, no cool gameplay features, and it punishes you for being an outlaw or even for trying to have fun

This reminds me of the time when a stalker found a girl’s location by studying the reflections in her eyes.

the squirrel's eyeball isn't a limit, I am just saying in a general sense the chase for realism in the game, which is represented in this example of having reflections in eyeballs, is also the reason why cowboy billy turns like a boat

realism can be fun

physics

intelligent NPCs

realistic guns like in Receiver

but normgroids are so shallow that when they think of realism they mean:

retail wageslavery tier daily quests, collectathons and other chore-like "features"

moar polygons

who cares about physics? everything is made of plastic

dude horse nuts and horse cunts!

Nigga even fucking TF2 uses cubemaps on characters eyes because it's one of the most fucking braindead simple things to do, I understand the point you're trying to make but trying to make it with this example makes you sound like a complete retard

I disagree. Cyberpunk has a much higher emphasis on its lighting tech and eyeball reflections you actually see during first person dialogue, but the player controls like any other disembodied FPS head flying around

the problem with RDRs movement, which I agree with you is dumb and feels bad to play, is entirely the decision of the gameplay design team not the art team. Look at the uncharted games, Drake is extremely responsive while still having best-in-class animation blending

I wish but that's hardly the case. Shrinking balls was a fun side project from a programmer who did it for the lulz in 2 or 3 afternoons and they decided to ran with it, while the squirrel's reflective eye indeed seems to be a cubemap. Arthur's pupil reacting to light must have been a tad more serious task but these didn't prevent Rockstar from anything. Judging by what dataminers revealed the original scope of the game was even more massive and they simply decided to draw a line instead of working another 2 years on it.

no, we are NOT spending resources on making the game more enjoyable to play. you WILL add more polygons to every leaf in the game for the next 3 years or I'm outsourcing your job

Justice for Peanut, fuck the government.

Arthur's pupil reacting to light

that fur technique works extremely well on assets small enough to hide the banding because it's very cheap render

the owners were given years of warning, blame them for not getting the damn papers and postponing for so long.
it's almost like they didn't actually care and did it on purpose to rage about it online and garner attention

You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. This is technology that's older than the average Anon Babbleermin.

No, but the dedication and attention to detail kinda does. Lots of squandered potential in that game, and quite a bit of pozzing, though it's still very good. Even if I now remember how the AI could see perfectly through thick vegetation. Not the only game that happens in by far, but fuck.

no see it's a big deal because normie company is doing it

Anon Babbleaggot normgroid NPCs are so retarded that this thread is the first time in their pathetic lives when they realized that games fake reflections using cube mapped reflections. NPCs LITERALLY need to copy paste kiddy shit from other groups of normalcattle because they are incapable of any original thought.

muh mcfuggin cubemaps!!!!!!! the only thing that matters is muh fuggin cubemaps!!!!!! the only thing this post is referring to and cares about is.... muh cubemaps!!!!!!!! ignore the greater point of the original post because i am unable to understand things beyond a single layer of abstraction this whole thing is only about muh fuggin cubemaps!!!!!!!!

They should only be blamed for failing to ventilate the pigs who kicked their door in.

He looks and sounds like such a dull retard. One of the most uninteresting characters to have so many lines in a videogame. I wanted to be someone else.

wow amazing so fantastic
so how does the game play?

Horse controls are shit, gunplay is shit, story is shit, gameplay is shit, multiplayer is shit, but at least you have very simple cube map reflection tech from 30 years ago in squirrel eyes.

how do textures affect gameplay? it's almost like art and gameplay are separate pieces of a greater whole

Yes, that is what the post is referring to. That is what this thread and the reply chain are about.

wrong. return your kindergarten diploma.

because devs and resources are limited

Are you this angry about being called out for your retardation?

"you're retarded because I said so!" said the retard

too bad the game itself is boring ass shit so you can't really enjoy all that technology without feeling like you're wasting your life.

you think the people working on reflections are the same people working on gunplay? maybe these criticisms work for indie games but this shit is built by an institution

yes
we have a 300 million dollar budget, but we need 300 devs working on making the leaves more detailed so we can't spend too much on the other departments because those aren't as important

literally not how it works dude but I'm starting to see the upper limits of this discussion

if you got money and you gotta pay people to do things you gotta pick who you're gonna spend it on

why can't zoomers appreciate the kino that is red dead redemption 2?

every single complaint i see is because of "slow animations" and "slow pacing". i think zoomers have reached critical levels of ADHD. tiktok has SERIOUSLY fucked you guys up man and fucking sad to see it play out in real time.

FOUNDATIONAL PILLAR: REALISM
- spend time and money making realistic textures, models, etc.
- spend time and money making realistic animations, with body locomotion that looks natural
- make sure everything else, including controls conform to that realism

the controls feel like shit because they didn't spend enough money on gameplay programmers

this is not how game development works

the budget for a AAA game isn't adjusted on the fly when they decide they need more squirrel eyes or a new feature added to combat. these departments are all salaried and these days, programming depts take priority because the art stuff is actually easier and cheaper to outsource, especially when compared to programming or design.
that's why games will launch broken and with bugs, but not literally missing assets. even if it has to look like shit, an asset can always be cranked out fast and cheap

actually you're right, the main thing is this

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nodevs think this is impressive, its just pixels rendering into the gbuffer. it doesnt matter if its a chipmunks eye or metal on a gun or whatever.

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I still can't wrap my head around RDR 2 looking better than games released in the last 2 years.

All while not requiring more than 6 vram which is the minimum for modern games at 1080p

i dont think it does. the TAA is aggressive, and without it the dithering destroys the entire image

Normalfags discover cube maps (pre-millennium tech)

OH MY SCIENCE

low poly is where it's at
mgsv was low poly while having top tier art style and visuals
photorealism is something a studio uses when investors and normies need to be impressed

mgsv was low poly

what the fuck am i reading?

mgsv was low poly vhs filter nostalgia throwback mascot survival horror

Crimson Desert looks better and has totk tier traversal

he's using the term completely wrong but he's technically correct, MGSV is extremely low poly but makes great use of normal mapping to hide it

Why does slash vee shit on Rdr2 but jerk off and rim Cyberpunk? Especially when Cyberpunk had such a terrible launch. I like both games. Especially RDR2 with a few choice mods.

It's just a basic texture reflection map

Do normies really think this is impressive? It probably only renders if you get within a feet in the free-cam mode.

boomers grew up with the most fast paced games in the history of video games you know. ps2 games felt like a drag already.

Do normies really think this is impressive?

Yes, you have no idea how shallow and retarded some people can be.

Twitter bait thread

That's pretty cool ngl