There is an insane defense force for this game and the remaster. I thought we were all in agreement in 2006 that Oblivion was a piece of shit. What happened?
There is an insane defense force for this game and the remaster...
Half of the board got born.
it was always better than skyrimjob and now the remake is showing all the zoomies that truth
this was always the best game of the series, troon
late gen z and gen a happened anon, those little motherfuckers raised on roblox will gobble up just about anything
its the best and funniest of the series since the main baddie goes on a speech about how its all lorkhan's fault when most people didn't bother the mythic dawn texts lel
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modern games are so shit that old shitty games like oblivion become masterpieces in comparison
It's a viral marketing campaign. These posts are being made by marketing people to try and get you to buy it. Same shit as for every other fucking remaster that's come out lately.
To be fair, they should've remastered morrowind 1st. That game handles like dogshit compared to modern standards
You were -10 in 2006.
It's always been my favorite Bethesda game. It was my first one. The NPCs were so dumb but memorable and the side quests were great. I never fast traveled after gemming up some clothing to push athletics and acrobatics past 100. I could jump halfway to one of the main cities in one go.
take the hiveminding "meta" shit back to r/Anon Babble you fucking faggot. I checked that godawful site to see what the state of this domain was and it's eye opening how much of you insufferable fags who act like everyone should think the same really are just fucking redditors. Go back.
NOOOO NOT EVERYONE IS A CONTRARIAN AUTIST LIKE MEEEEEEE
Bethesdadrones have always been the biggest idiots in the industry. And Bethesda is the luckiest company ever because it means they can never fail.
This is all the proof you need. They released a dog turd in Starfield. How do they save the company? Just rerelease an old overrated janky game, and voila, the company is saved.
it's so bad it's good.
We weren't in agreement.
We love Oblivion here and always have, even moreso when we saw what came after which retroactively showed us how good we still had it at the time.
It's the same way boomers thought everyone hated the star wars prequels and now they're more beloved than the originals by the zoomer fanbase.
Oblivion Re:MasTerPieCE
All I'm seeing is new players shitting on Oblivion and realizing it's just a nostalgia trip for 30 year old Xbox manchildren had it as babby's first RPG. Oblivion literally brought nothing new to the table and was ugly as sin and janky and terribly designed all around. Bethesda was never the same company again. They died after Morrowind.
Oblivion is only good for the retarded NPC dialogue.
Skyrim is more interesting than Shitblivion because Skyrim has handcrafted worlds, better level-scaling, better art and visuals. Even if it's a shallow game at least you will be entertained by the exploration for a while. Oblivion has nothing going for it.
skyrim is too big. You could spend an entire playthrough in one area. Oblivion feels big but you get to actually explore everything on foot in a fraction of the time.
The questlines are better in Oblivion (even if they aren't that good). It's incredible how dogshit and unmemorable they are in skyrim. It's impossible for me to replay any single faction without installing some overhaul mod. Not even the main quest is better than oblivion and in that game you were forced to do fucking oblivion gates
I thought we were all in agreement in 2006 that Oblivion was a piece of shit. What happened?
maybe it is a good time to start realizing that Anon Babble Anon Babble rpgcodex and some other vidya sites full of 35+ yo angry and bitter loses are nothing more than a echo chamber and that whatever the consensus in those places is doesn't represent the average normalfag opinion. Oblivion with all its faults was always a loved game and a lot more populrar than morrowind among mainstream players.
I find Oblivionfags more obnoxious than the overinflated Morrowindfags and clueless Skyrimfags because they're a mix of both, and have even less of a leg to stand on than either. Oblivion is designed poorly from the ground up. Someone says "the scaling ruins the game" and Oblivionfags act like people are being unfair, like they're nitpicking a single mechanic and you can just "ignore it", and refuse to recognize how the scaling isn't just "a mechanic" it's the backbone of almost every other mechanic. The dungeons. The exploration. The loot. The combat. The quest rewards. Even things like the world building are affected, as "rich" NPCs won't actually be rich unless you're high level, and some enemy types literally do not exist or disappear depending on the level you're at, and shop NPCs inventories are kept in chests outside of the player's reach so good items can't be stolen too quickly. And did you know even bribes are level scaled? And the fanbase used to say "mods can fix it" (they can't, just like how no mod can actually fix Morrowind's combat, it's too broken to truly salvage) but now they can't even say that.
Makes no difference. All the characters are so wooden that the game can't hold a candle to actual immersive CRPGs. The quests are terrible compared to Baldur's Gate 3 or something. Nobody plays Bethesda's games for quests, they play them for the hiking simulators they are. And like any hiker, you need a good world to hike in. Cyrodiil sucks.
Yeah but you can easily mod that shit out.
Morrowfags pretend to be purist when in reality noone of them play without the 300 QoL patches from either MCP or OpenMW
Skyrim is the one that needs a full modlist the most because the game is full dogshit without it
Oblivion is procedurally generated and barren, with copypasted dungeons made by one guy, with disgusting aesthetics and art. The game's animations are worse than an indie game's, characters are super wooden. It's game-breakingly unbalanced because it's designed to be completed at the lowest level by children. They put zero effort into late-game for people who get past the early levels. There were mountains of lies coming up to the game like Radiant AI which was pretty much completely scrapped due to Bethesda's incompetence. Oblivion is the least played Elder Scrolls game today if we discount Arena, for a good reason. It is the Halo of the RPG genre for kids who get their first console on Christmas.
What happened?
Skyrim happened. Been living under a rock?
Oblivion is quests and vibes for me. The writing isn't award worthy but still entertaining. It's an adventure.
Oblivion won
Fallout 3 won
Starfield won
Bethesda has been vincidicated
The quests are terrible compared to Baldur's Gate 3
Might as well tell me that Ultima IV is a shit game because the quest are not as well-designed as a 20 years older game like Oblivion
I literally play for the quests tho. If I wanted to play elder scrolls as it was some shitty looter where you only dungeon crawl and empower your character I would just stick to Path of Exile
I thought it was a piece of shit from day-one, but the Remaster fixes all of the problems that I had with it, so I'm good. Fucking 5000 of these "remastered" games, and finally one good one.
actual unironic shill shillson son of shillet
Todd won nigger
morrowind and oblivion had tons of hand placed items. Morrowind has that sword on a cabinet in the balmora guard tower, and oblivion has rings and jewels outside forts on hidden ledges.
It was my first one.
That doesn't constitute for a good game. It means you are biased. 20 years later the same game put in monotone UE5 brown shaders doesn't cut it. People buy it for the nostalgia trip like morons encouraging bad industry remake practices only to realize shortly after that what the fuck am I doing, this isn't actually good.
youtu.be
okay but have you HEARD the soundtrack?
The remaster is better because they fixed levelups so now you don't get weaker, even though there's no difficulty on Adept.
Still plenty to fix, however hopefully this one is more stable than vanilla Oblivion for modding.
Ultima IV is way worse than Ultima VII, yes. And Oblivion has worse interactivity than Ultima VII, lol.
people's favorite things aren't based on logic
zomg ty
Oblivion is procedurally generated and barren, with copypasted dungeons made by one guy
Are you too much of a retard to realize how these two sentences directly contradict each other?
Oblivion dungeons are shit, but they're not procedurally generated.
There's nothing "easy" about it.
just download OOO
OOO has scaling that's almost just as egregious. It just does a better job of kitting you out, but it still becomes monotonous HP sponge fights. And I have a very modded install of Oblivion.
Vaults added to each of the castles so there's actually something to steal there (this mod is horribly broken.)
level requirements removed from Daedric quests
A mod that revamps the entire game to remove scaling completely. Unfortunately, this is like the only mod that ACTUALLY fucking does this. And it's overtuned because the creator wanted the game to be "challenging" which means even though there's no scaling, it's still HP sponge battles
A mod to fix the broken auto-calculated enchantment values for strong items, like the high level Blade of Woe. The system in Oblivion still uses the Morrowind system, but the Morrowind system had enchanted items that regenerated over time. Oblivion doesn't, so the only way to recharge something like the Blade of Woe is with literally 20 grand soul gems, 30,000+ gold, or a varla stone. For an item that can kill about 3 enemies at that level before it's out of charge.
A mod to re-add passive regen to enchanted items, because Oblivion's system is balanced around the Morrowind system that had this
A mod that gives the White-Gold Tower an interior. It is completely fucking unacceptable that Bethesda chose to have this building be visible from everywhere on the map, in promo screenshots and all that shit, and it's 90% unmodeled on the inside, and half of what's there is only accessible during a thieves guild quest. It showcases what's wrong with Oblivion. It's all good on the surface. But just one layer deep, and it falls apart.
A mod to reduce the insane amounts of stagger at high levels
And a lot more. This was not an "easy" list to assemble, and it all addresses the deep problems with Oblivion's design, and it only makes the game somewhat passable.
the opposition to your seething poorfag cope isn't a "defense force" lol
you're just being called out for being a turdholder
everyone will go back to jerking off to modded Skyrim once the honeymoon phase ends
Oblivion is simply unappealing to modern gaymers, it's so generic and bland and whatever mods it gets they won't hold a candle to Skyrim mods
This is hardcore revisionism. Everybody loved Oblivion. You would have thought it was OoT with how hard TEStags and non TESfags alike rode it's proverbial dick. When Skyrim came out everyone was shitting on Skyrim for how it wasn't like Oblivion with Weapons Durability, Skills didn't work the same. Skyrim was THE abomination.
How different from Skyrim is Oblivion? I know there aren't any shouts and that weapons degrade, but what else is there? I've played Skyrim and Fallouts 3, 4 and NV.
If he had played Morrowind first and Gothic as well, he would have had a different outlook on Oblivion.
zoomers are right. goty games are the ones that rip off 20 year old persona games
Yeah I'm getting this feeling. Retards posting "Um, I'm 2 hours in, and no one's ever told me this game is a masterpiece?" for internet clout, and eventually giving up because it actually just sucks.
Ultima IV is way worse than Ultima VII
Not really when it comes to combat
And Oblivion has worse interactivity than Ultima VII, lol
There's a lot of shit you can do in Oblivion. And the interactivity is something that was really improved from morrowind. Because MW despite having a lot more spells the NPCs are so fucking basic and dead that (they might as well be just information posts) they don't react like in oblivion to the thing the player does. Which is ironic of you telling me the NPCs in oblivion are wooden when they probably feel the most alive in any elder scrolls including Skyrim which really limited their actions becuase of "muh realism purposes"
So the game is either no-difficulty or some bullshit damage sponge shit on the highest?
Oblivion's scaling is shit because the game is annoying unless you spec into magic from level 10 - 20 and then it's trivial since the scaling stops. The loot also goes from scaled slop to end game gear being spammed everywhere to the point that drops are worthless. The remaster didn't fix any of that. Don't listen to retards that claim otherwise. They haven't hit level 20+ yet. The scaling hasn't been adjusted at all.
You don't need big overhauls you just need a light mod to fix the leveling. A mod that increases the unique rewards to your level every time your level up and maybe, just maybe, some that doesn't give daedric armor to bandits if you really care that much about it
Skyrim mogs Oblivion, always did always will
Booblivion contrarian troons were always pretentious pseuds plaguing r*ddit and youtube with their shit takes
am glad this shitty remaster came out so now the census (remaster is better than the terrible original version and there is no reason to play in Le current year) will become mainstream in the circles of normies and it will make you seethe and cope and finally 41% yourself lmao
nobody but game journalists and germans actually played gothic 2
Do you ever think maybe people just like something that you don't?
The internet has turned you people into paranoid schizos
The overworld is procedurally generated in Oblivion. Bethesda literally bragged about using an algorithm to make it before the game came out. The dungeons are made by one guy in a shitty editor. And all the animations are also made by one guy who was Todd's childhood friend. It's a joke.
When Skyblivion comes out it will blow this piece of shit demaster out of the water with its custom made dungeons.
Turbo zoomer cope
I thought we were all in agreement in 2006 that Oblivion was a piece of shit
you were wrong
it's always been kino
it might be ue5 modern trash now but it's still kino
Bro I am telling you. My standards are not "I'm playing Oblivion so I'm happy." I want a game with a sense of genuine discovery, danger, risk, and some semblance of balance. "Just get a mod that fixes leveling and quest rewards" doesn't do it. And don't even fucking say I'm putting unrealistic expectations on the game and I should "just appreciate it for what it is." I'm comparing it to other fucking games that are actually interesting in the same genre. Oblivion fails to deliver even the most shallow of joys found in RPGs. If you "just fix the leveling" you're just playing a better version of a game that lacks the fundamentals.
You are a clown. No-one thinks Oblivion is a well-made game in 2025 or even in 2006. It can't hold a candle to Elden Ring or KCD2 in open world design. There is no good no-drone excuse to pay that much money for a blatant cash grab.
ES fans are like Civilization fans. The game that they played first is the best one in the series and every other game that deviated from it is shit. It doesn't matter which game it is.
Everybody loved Oblivion.
You have to go back. Back to Plebbit and Youtube comments, drone. You are trying to defend a brainless action game that was nothing but a downgrade from Morrowind.
when your favorite e-celeb Cuckbat will realse his Oblivion ''OG soul vs soulless remaster'' video i will see you shilling it on Anon Babble you faggot
Yeah, difficulty scaling is even worse since normal difficulty has no challenge (enemies have good HP levels but hit for shit), but if you move one difficulty higher they already become too spongy.
It's bearable if you want to have to use every tool at your disposal and you know how to hit hard in Oblivion, but if you're going in first it's gonna get exhausting. Then you have master which is just awful.
nothing but an improvement stinky
Why am I supposed to take two dipshits arguing on a forum I don't post on as an authority? What is the point of that picture?
It has stats and spell making but everything else is worse and jankier. The world is super dull. New players are quickly put off by it. This game sells only because of manchildren hyping it up for nostalgia.
It's wild to me, how tangled up all this is.
When I was a kid I didn't use video game forums I just played games.
But on Anon Babble if you like a game some guy posts screenshots and links and talks about Reddit
Fallout 3 is shit and nobody liked Starfield. Bethesda didn't develop the Remaster, Virtuous did. This was a win for TES, not for Betheshit
Oblivion has some good quest lines and better magic going for it. Outside of that yeah Skyrim is better.
I thought we were all in agreement in 2006 that Oblivion was a piece of shit.
We were not. You were just being a retard. Oblivion was always a fun game. Just because its not as good as the kino that is Morrowind doesn't make it shit, you moron.
Oblivion truly is a sign of the decline of vidya. At the time I was disappointed with its many flaws despite it being overall a decent game. Now I'd kill for games of its level to be coming out.
My first was Daggerfall, and I vehemently claim that Skyrim is almost better than Oblivion in every way. Then again I'm not an Elder Scrolls fan. I'm not a fanatic. I'm rational and don't get drone about it. I mostly criticize Bethesda because I don't think sucking them off gets us better games. We need to be very harsh to them in order to get better games from them. Being a fanboy has never actually been beneficial for the fanboys, which is ironic. The more you appease someone the less they think of you. This 50 dollar demaster is proof of it. Give us Elder Scrolls 6, which is good.
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Anti oblivion trannies are literally crying because Todd won. Look how emotional their posts are getting. Sad.
It can't hold a candle to Elden Ring or KCD2 in open world design
PLEASE SAAR PLAY NORMIE ROLLSLOP AND PRAISE THE MUSA'S BBC WE MUST PROTECT THE JOOZ
KCDII was better and that came out a month ago but you retards lost your mind because of a single token black dude.
Speedruns are hardly 3 minutes because you instantly clip through a door into the final place and just spam text
Game is good tho, just hate the weapon leveling scaling, everything dealing 1 or 2 damage at the start, retarded
Filtered and coping. Sad to see.
I mean, you can also find people talking shit about morrowind in old sites or complaining about how fucking slow the walking speed is and yet when someone complains about that today morrowfags react like "NOOO YOU HECKING ZOOMER YOU GOT FILTERED"
Implying todd isn't a jew
i just remembered Oblivion had no romance or marriage, well it's over female gaymers and coomers will drop it once they realize this
also there is no CHILDREN in Oblivion, hard pass for the cunny chads audience
Oblivion was always the worst of the series. With this one they even ported the potato faces. Like wtf.
Boring game. Also gay. Yawn
It's pre-release lies and half-truths from the developers, some of whom were literally posting on RPGCodex until Oblivion released, then codex shit on the game, and every bethesda employee disappeared from the website forever
Better combat, better story, better world, better quests. I'd argue that KCDII even has better music. Oblivion is fucking trash in comparison and this remaster did nothing but remind me of that.
I thought we were all in agreement
Oblivionfags are retarded and I had many years arguing those retards way back when Bethedsa still had a forum. Bringing Morrowind to the Console end up creating these retards when they
-complain about the puzzle box, they added markers
-complain about traveling and no horses, so fuck teleporting and travel service, just fast travel. They had the audacity to say LOL JUST DONT USE IT
-think the first bosmer they met in morrowind is super gay, thus cutting VA
-complain about too much weapons, so they kill many of the weapons
And so on. Oblivion would had been dead if its weren't for Mods as this anon posted . These console players end up rebuying the game on PC just to mod.
Nah
Youre too easily baited. A marketing firm makes these threads every hour because it’s more interesting than saying “oblivion good”. It’s like the simplest bait that exists is to claim something popular is bad. Theyre just trying to sell more copies of the remaster. And also trying to fill up the board with up to date and relevant content. Its a deep conspiracy theory basically, our board is overrun by a cult of evil brainwashing mass murdering slavers who know the value of bread and circus and will provide the cheapest entertainment possible so long as it is in agreement with their programming schedule, and is also paying for itself. I’m not even sure what threads and posts are made by unique people anymore. It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if the real threads are intentionally buried using programming tricks like throttling views based on location. The value of keeping a top thread is pretty big, that’s a permanent advertising slot for one of the highest traffic websites. You will probably start to notice almost every thread is following a posting guide, like these thread makers all graduated from the same special ops program.
there is no CHILDREN in Oblivion
wtf is this true? and i was waiting for ATF mods to drop before buying the game....
That's because you were a clueless child and Oblivion was your babby's first RPG. It all checks out.
Compare you to that guy who reviewed Oblivion in two thousand fucking six and bashed it, there was a world of difference. He didn't come from complete noob background to RPGs, he already had a wealth of knowledge in 2006.
cunny chads
Damn Oblivion lost the LGBTP audience?
Ten copies please
He never forced me to protect them in his games at least (unlike cucklord deliverance 2). In fact, quite the opposite, we go against the Thalmor in Skyrim
People always shat on Oblivion
Better combat, better story, better world, better quests
Oblivion is buttom of the barrel trash, KCD2 being the better game does not mean it's good
I'd argue that KCDII even has better music
nah that's only good thing Oblivion had going on for it
My first RPG was Lunar, I didn't bother reading the rest desu
I just had fun playing video games while you apparently spent years of your life arguing about them
I know you are, but what am I
Put simply, Oblivion is an objectively fun game that lacks substance. It's not high-brow, nor a masterpiece, but it's just fun to play. You can shit on it for a multitude of reasons and people have done so for 19 years, but there's no denying that it's a blast to play through.
enjoy your Oblivion furry and lizard porn mods you sodomite
I don't care what cherry picked opinion you found off the ass of a random invisionfree forum since you were likely too young to have played the original on release anyway. The opinion here was very pro Oblivion. By the time Skyrim came out the Reddit opinion was in favor of Skyrim while we were playing Dragon Age before EA killed Bioware.
And some cunts liked it. that's why these are always divisive.
For sure?
Hell yeah Scalies rise up
People shit on every game
Crowbcat said it has soul tho
I thought we were all in agreement in 2006 that Oblivion was a piece of shit.
Is there a psychological reason why Morrowtroons just make shit up like this? They believe it too, even.
at first I hate the leveling system and the scaling, then I learn how to game it and I ennoy it. I love doing all the stupid shit you got to do to get a perfect character, get all the best unique items, and keep NPCs alive. I fucking love hoarding all the 0 weight items, enchanting the fuck out of them, and reverse pickpocketing them along with buff weapons onto npcs in dangerous places. its like an additional minigame for me
I thought it was good, fag.
Todd Howard: a simple get the diamond from that guy... quest can be done in hundreds of ways now
He states it as a matter of fact the snake
Oblivion was always hated. It was consolized or something.
Yes, my opinion is from a Youtube video since I wasn't even around when the game released, AND my favorite game is Skyrim. How could you tell?
or something
using a mouse feels like shit in the menus after morrowind on PC. The game is built around using a controller for everything. They couldn't even bother optimizing the mouse for the fanbase that modded their game and rocketed its popularity into the stratosphere. those faggots
Yeah the UI is fucking shit on a PC. The remaster doesn't even really improve it.
You know, people's opinion can change of a certain piece of media over time anon. Not everyone is static and have the same opinion for 20 years. People do reassess something they hated before a see in a different light and enjoy it. The opposite is true where something you loved years back, you realize it wasn't good upon reflection years later.
bro the unreal engine its like the best man
Oblivion was loved by the mainstream vidya media and hated by veteran RPG players. What does that tell us? The most vocal critics of that game were never noobs, not then nor are they now, they were people with a lot of experience. On the other hand, children all over the neighborhoods were pressuring their parents to get them an Xbox 360 so they could play Oblivion. I guess we should listen to the latter.
the people with hundreds of hours in a game are the ones that hate it the most, arguably
Based Trainwiz released a mod to get rid of the retarded level scaling on items, so you don't have to worry about getting a nerfed version of a unique item.
Oblivion remastered polishes a turd but it's still a turd. This board will cope and seethe and piss but Oblivion does not come close to games like KCD1 and 2, BG3, or even Cyberpunk. It can't compete with new games without 20 years of mods propping it up which the remaster does not have yet.
hated by veteran RPG players
I don't think anyone gives a shit about what transwomen think.
Morrowind doesn't actually need any mods to make it playable, where as Oblivion 2006 absolutely does. You people forget (or never knew) that it was fucking Oblivion that started the trend that we need a million mods to fix a Bethesda game.
yes, so leave because you aren't welcome, tranny.
modding
Being UE basically made modding the game 1000x more annoying.
Todd has always been a liar.
people that were raised by an Xbox360 are now the majority on Anon Babble
Morrowind homos that couldn't run it in 2006 have been seething about it for close to 20 years now. You lost, go kiss a cliff racer, elf
literally my childhood
for all the bullshit his games all had atmosphere. TES is really a special franchise all things considered. It has never been replicated.
I'd argue that KCDII even has better music
like, fucking kek, man. Oblivion OST is a hundred-million dollar piece of work that will still be remembered at the turn of the century. I can only vaguely recall the KCDII music.
The fact that daily threads started popping up right before the remake got leaked should tell you everything you need to know.
Games got worse
the unreal engine and its consequences
there was a vrpg thread about this at least 6 months ago?
bot
morrowtrannies are scraping the bottom of the barrel for insults to the point where people who were born in the 90s are their new boogeymen
Oblivion's OST sound like nails on a chalkboard to me because I've listened to it so much. I don't know how anyone with more than 100 hours in this game can fucking stand it. KCD2's music wasn't so obnoxious sounding. It was calm background music that fit the scene.
You simply just aren't hyperborean enough to enjoy it.
go ahead, let it all out anon. We're still talking about oblivion 20 years later. It's been 2 months and nobody even remembers what kcd2 stands for you fucking inbred
Do you realize the irony of your post when you're comparing it to KCD2's ost? Oblivion's composer isn't fucking European.
I agree op, I also see a lot of people praising the graphics, the same people who used to say that graphics don't matter...
KCD2 is a better game in every way. It filtered retards that enjoy slop like Oblivion.
What happened?
Skyrim came out.
someone claiming Oblivion OST isn't GOAT has to be peak contrarian moment of mankind or something
Yeah, not to mention it's a game from 2006. There should realistically not be enough material to talk about anymore. A game from 2006 should not generate this many threads no matter what. Everyone is acting really strangely, like for all this time Bethesda had prevented us from playing the 2006 version Oblivion in the bargain bin, and now they all of a sudden allowed us to play it again causing the flood gates to open. None of that actually happened. The game was always there. You have no reason to suddenly act like it exists.
Every remaster and demake always got massive amount of shills. This is the current meta for nu-video games.
Diablo 2 has a better ost. FF7 has a better ost, Chrono Trigger has a better ost. So many games mog it. Oblivion's ost sounds like a generic Hollywood movie.
mhmmmmm.... tell me then why they didn't fix the shitty combat scaling?
It's alright, but Skyrim's soundtrack is at the very least three times better.
30 seconds of morrowind music beats the entire rest of the series tho
youtu.be
Those are good but:
Oblivion OST > FF8 OST > Diablo 2 OST > FF7 OST > Skyrim OST > Chrono Trigger OST
I'm objectively correct.
Wait, are you talking about KCD2 or the Oblivion remaster?
Actually Morrowind stripped tons of shir from Elder Scrolls that Oblivion brought back. That game didn’t even have all of Morrowind as playable like it was supposed to lmao.
kingdom come. the combat has the exact same problems as before.
It was a rhetorical question. How fucking deluded does an Oblivion fan have to be to shit on another game for combat scaling?
This is bait. Oblivion's ost sucks. Fallout 1 and 2, Might and Magic 6 - 8, and BG 1 and 2's ost mog it so fucking hard, also. I'm having trouble thinking of a game that has a worst ost than Oblivion.
brown hands typed this
Oblivion's ost is as generic as it gets. It's not even in the top 100. Phantasy Star IV's ost mogs it, too.
claiming oblivions ost is "generic" and jeremy soule isnt a god
did Anon Babble really need to come back?
the second you are able to actually use your sword and not have it feel like shit, you are immediately overpowered and can now take out entire squads solo. it's really bad and they keep doing it. Oblivions combat scaling issues require a paragraph to explain. So for kcd it's just sloppy work, and they should be admonished for doing it twice in a row. Not to mention the buggy mess the first one released as.
It is generic. Half the SNES and Genesis library shits on his music. Compare Secret of Evermore's ost (Jeremy Soule) with Secret of Mana's ost. I think it becomes clear that he was always an overrated hack. Sorry Anon Babble can't be your Oblivion circlejerk hugbox
What’s the obsiditranny cope gonna be when Fallout 3 remastered is released and makes millions?
holy shit I can't wait for the seething
I thought we were all in agreement in 2006 that Oblivion was a piece of shit.
Why are you rewriting "history?" Literally no one that was alive in 2006 and had access to the internet would believe what you're saying.
not bait. FO1&2 OST is actually my MOST listened to music of my entire life btw. it sounds like you know, anyone "with the talent" knows the ear magic of Moribund World, but that just circles back to Oblivion OST being GOAT
FO3 and NV were the only good ones. I couldn't play 4 and I tried 3 seperate times. Something about it is so garbage I never make it past the powersuit.
oblivion is just nostalgiabait for nostalgiatroons
morrowind was good
oh the irony and hypocrisy
0 (zero) self awareness
gothic 1/2 were released around the time of morrowind and oblivion and were much better in almost every way, maybe except lore spam but who gives a shit about that
oblivion was so cringe and bad that people shat on it from the very beginning. Every time someone mention TES i immediately think of pic rel (illusion man) from a 2009 video
some games are good for the vibes. TES is shit, so are the nu-fallouts. But the atmosphere is great. The OST is very SOULEful.
Gothic 1 is horrible. 2 is the only good one. Gothic 1 had a good atmosphere during the first act, and literally everything else in the game is terrible.
they're not mutually exclusive faggot. Holy shit, the average Anon Babbleaggot is comically stupid. This reminds me of that Anon Babbleaggot who said he's worked 12 years in retail
Secret of Evermore OST
yeah, it's not good, but everyone has their one successful masterpiece, and his was in Oblivion OST
Also I should mention that this YouTube video is 10 hour video essay made by an incel in 2017, because all the videos on YouTube from the time Oblivion came out were of people having fun and enjoying the game.
I forgot how hateful this place was…..
And Todd isn't a literal jew either like Vavra is, what's your point
G1 had better magic and let you turn OP more easily and was thus a bit more non-linear but I agree that G2 was much better. G2 had unbelievable vibes in the 2000s so it rapes TES even in the vibes department
it's time for it to die...
People have been complaining about the level scaling from day 1. Not that anon but I'm 39 years old and remember all of the buzz surrounding Oblivion when it released. It was generally considered a great game despite all of the problems when it was new but people slowly turned on the game as other "open world" RPGs such as Mass Effect, Witcher, Dragon Age, etc released. A lot of people were simply wowed by Oblivion's graphics and scale which were amazing at the time. People ignored the simplistic RPG mechanics because of the eye candy. There was always a minority of Morrowind fans that felt like Oblivion dumbed down the series and they've only become more vocal and numerous as the years have went on.
oblivion was so cringe and bad that people shat on it from the very beginning.
ok but the dark brotherhood quest was fucking kino
Go lie somewhere else.
oblivion has always been a solid 9/10 immersive rpg. it would have been a 10/10 if they fixed its main flaw, the level scaling.
This is a good, objective assessment. Surprising to see this on Anon Babble. Brown nostalgiatrannies and contrarianfags who wageslave in retail are incapable of just common sense and logic.
It's not even as good as Morrowind and Skyrim. Those games have better soundtracks that don't get on your nerves after 150+ hours.
Holy shit imagine being 40 and still going in here.
I think I'd rather kill myself.
the way level scaling happened and no spears was still pretty dumb
the level of voice acting and radiant AI stuff and the landscape and so on that was achieved by Oblivion was super impactful though in 2006
the opening music is where it peaks and there's nothing wrong with that.
I used to think the same about 20-somethings, 30-somethings and 40-somethings who posted here. Just wait, lil bro. Oh, my sweet, dear, delicious itty bitty chylde...
You're already too far gone if something as simple as age drives you to suicide. You must live a depressing and empty life. You aren't going to grow out of posting on the Internet, anon. You will still be here many years from now if the jannies keep this shithole together.
imagine coming here regularly before the age of 30. I refused to visit this place until I gave up on a lot of things I previously held out hope for. You're the one who's playing themselves. Thanks for spending your best years here with me.
No matter what a game looks like or seems to bring to the table, if it's just not fun, people will turn on it. Likewise if a game looks like shit but is actually really enjoyable, people will be more likely to stick with it.
this, I've been posting and lurking here on and off since 2007 but I only come here when my life is pure shit. And it's been shit since 2016. I hate everything.
you can get used to gapesuck graphics but not to gapesuck gameplay
they objectively do not
Morrowind OST is last place of the three. In Morrowind OST, Soule caught onto something in tracks like "Peaceful Waters" and "Shed your Travails" and channeled it into his masterpiece collection of the Oblivion OST. Skyrim OST is just him trying his best to mimic what he had done with the Oblivion OST, and it sounds nice, but it doesn't reach that transcending level he achieved with Oblivion.
simply said, he peaked with Oblivion
zoomers
better years of their life
zoomers will never have "better years". their lives will always be shit.
I guess the string of dark souls games, the avowed, ect, made everyone crave repetitive oblivion gates
It's the dark souls 2 situation, the game is so shit that it's kinda endearing. Besides, it's the oldest playable elder scrolls game for the average zoomer, morrowind is just too old and jank for the average normie and anyone who didn't grow up playing it.
You’re a zoomer/gen alpha babynigger. Oblivion was unprecedented when it released and you’d realize that if you were there when it launched. You’d also understand why Skyrim was actually a disappointment because the quests in that game universally nosedived in quality compared to Oblivion.
Do you know what the word "procedurally generated" even means??? Do you? No. Don't answer. You do not.
soule's work is great in all his games. But Morrowind's theme is still pure, sweet, SWEEET kino. He did peak somewhere in gapeblivion or gapewind, ironically my favorite rimjob tracks are remixes of gapewind and gapeblivion tracks kek
yeah. thank god for the salt mines here on Anon Babble
India now makes up the majority of Anon Babble's userbase
I have a degree in CS and I'm pretty sure I know more about it than you'll ever do, diarrhea brain.
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RPGamer: Given the massive popularity of the TES Construction Set, is a revised and updated version of a similar mod creation software going to be released with Oblivion?
Gavin Carter: The new TES Construction Set should feel very familiar to anyone who is experienced with modding for the original. We've made a host of changes from small to minor to help us build Oblivion. The most major of them is undoubtedly the introduction of our procedural content tools, which allow us to churn out realistic environments much more quickly and efficiently than we could in Morrowind. We've also completely redone the dialog and questing systems, made improvements to scripting, and incorporated features that will make it much easier for modders to create their own autonomous worlds.
The only good thing about Morrowind was the robes actually looking like robes. Put the Morrowind robes into Oblivion, and it's instantly the better game.
morrowind was unplayable shit even near release, there's a reason why people modded the ever-loving shit out of it
crazy that todd howard himself comes to Anon Babble's Anon Babble just to shitpost his own game.
/og/ became Anon Babbletesg.
That is literally it. End of the story. Oblivion reigns and Oblivion Remaster is a good game, the original but better.
I'm having fun :D
You know how to savor the clumps of loosely fallen feces you scoop from your diaper, pig-touching sisterfucker. Everyone here is watching you make a complete fool of yourself. Anonymity shelters you from personal consequences beyond this thread, but it's a teachable moment for those with the self-awareness to reflect upon this exchange so that they know how not to behave when they don't know something.
the only good thing about morrowind was having so many different slots for armor. HUGE downgrade losing pauldrons in oblivion
this game is actually good, because they fixed the exploits, and bugs.
Oblivion has the best quests, prettiest world, best writing, and still has decent magic & real classes unlike Skyrim with its grey world, 1 or 2 handed weapon and nothing else, WOAT writing & quests.
I seethe because I'm stupid, inferior and wrong
Got it.
I'm having fun. Is it a good game? No, not really but the remake is pretty and it's still better than skyrim.
He was talking about Speedtree, anon. And not only does it not take a degree in CS to know that (some of us were actually alive and developing games when the game came out), but if you did have a CS degree, then you'd know that.
Sean bean
Anon... are you ok?
Morrowind has the best spell maker, alchemy, and enchantments and it's not even close. There has been no other game in the series that gave the player so much freedom to unbalance the game in fun and hilarious ways. You can literally become a superhero. It's sad that younger people didn't get to understand what made Morrowind so great.
all hail Sean bean Martin
That's the behavior that definitely earned you a real CS degree.
I put in maybe 30-40 hours in that game when it was new. No, I never got further than Balmora. Yes, I did make 20 characters and could speedrun the armory in seyda neen.
You're missing out. It's really fun.
Sean bean 900% aggression
you are 100% right. if you're young, you should be out being a normie; getting married, trying to get a better job/promotion, and paying off a house.
4chin is for the forlorn.
So you never played it then. That's a shame. You really missed out.
i have an openMW installation I just haven't been in the mood. Maybe after I get oblivion out of my system again.
I like both versions, don’t give a fuck about brainless subjective monkey screeching over what has soul and what doesn’t.
never played it but played skyrim am I missing out?
You're the one who can't accept being wrong about silly things on the internet. You're definitely never going to escape retail wageslavery hell.
The only problem you had with it was the graphics?
I thought we were all in agreement in 2006 that Oblivion was a piece of shit
You weren't alive. How would you know?
the animations and stats on levelup were the big winners for the RE:Master. It's the definitive edition now even if they never fully fix performance.
>married
limits your freedom, free time, and it's a waste of your youth
being a normie
yapping and pissing your life away at the club, pub or in some other location is a waste of your youth
not that different from doomscrolling on tiktok or Anon Babble t b q h w y f a m a l a m
Oblivion's graphics and scale which were amazing at the time.
Fucking Neverwinter Nights 2 had better graphic than Oblivion
There was always a minority of Morrowind fans that felt like Oblivion dumbed down the series and they've only become more vocal and numerous as the years have went on.
They made SI to appeal to Morrowind and RPGfags. Beth were aware how Oblivion got shitted on.
I thought we were all in agreement
First of all
we
Second of all
Anon Babble
ever being in agreement about anything
You were retarded, I fear.
nta but two things: OpenMW is the way to play Morrowind for sure, its stability improvement is all you need
Morrowind is very hard to get into and I don't fault anybody for that. it has aged, considerably. it has effectively no dialogue, and the quests are not that interesting
rip boromir
Fucking Neverwinter Nights 2 had better graphic than Oblivion
normgroids don't think logically like that. Oblivion was internationally hyped, super popular, and was among the first games to pioneer a certain level of graphic quality. That's all there is to it
The art style, the leveling system and level scaling primarily.
Fucking Neverwinter Nights 2 had better graphic than Oblivion
You're absolutely full of shit. I remember people complaining about NWN2 looking only marginally better than the first game while running like trash.
but i play them to fight dragons
it’s thiscan’t believe people are forgetting just how much m$ and bethesda love using subhuman jeets to do their dirty work
holy fuck finally a normal fellow oldfag on this god forsaken site with a normal and personal opinion. i also remember all the retarded arguments back in the day of oblivion coming out. remember the same with skyrim. sick to death of the trench warfare mentality of this board
Oblivion sold like 100 million copies before 99% of India even had internet access
This does not look better than Oblivion and even if it did, the scale is absolutely minuscule compared to it. You run around on tiny isometric maps compared to Oblivion's gigantic world.
This is true, but they always say "well you can break the game so it's okay"
those chonky + signs for the heal spells are so cozy. I miss bg2
doesn’t change that m$ and bethesda are 100% using jeets now to astroturf the demaster
Yes and it was release a few years after Lord of the Ring: Return of the King was aired and basically turn everything into an New Zealand meadow with wolves everywhere.
And you're a goldfish brained faggot. There wasn't that much complaint about graphic, but it did had the NWN1 tribe vs NWN2 tribe mentality. Meanwhile, Oblivion graphic wasn't impressive by a long shot when everyone is a potato and bloom, and some would just turn to using Oldbivion since the "good" graphic end up hampering.
Are you too much of a retard to realize how these two sentences directly contradict each other
holy shit i am losing my mind is literally everyone on Anon Babble 60 fucking IQ?????? is everyone on this fucking board a brown rapefugee from Anon Babble??? re-read anon's post again slowly 5 times. he is saying that the OVERWORLD is procedurally generated while the indoor dungeon areas are made with a fucking shit level editor by some mouthbreather at bethesda with a crappy tileset
like 100 million copies
lol fucking retarded shill
"nobody but game journalists and germans actually played gothic 2"
literally the most polish game on the planet that every single polish gen x'er, millennial and zoomer played
???????????????????
nice fake scrot, scrote, but pic rel is how nwn2 actually looked and, let me tell you kid
it was pure, sweet, SWEEET kino
I'm glad they fixed the outdated graphics and ui, they could have charged $70 too, or neglected to include the DLC, I think Bethesda deserves mad props. Now all Microsoft has to do is port this all around to their competitors platforms and they win this "console war" from the inside.
nobody in real countries
can you guys run this well? my rig is pretty decent but as soon as I hit the open world i can't get above an unstable 50ish unless i use framescam
I thought we were all in agreement in 2006 that Oblivion was a piece of shit.
we
Says the faggot, Oblivion was always great
I played NWN2 again a few years ago. You're delusional if you think it looked nearly as good as Oblivion. I'd argue that Gothic 3 looked better despite everything else in that game being a huge pile of shit.
I loosely remember the codex's url auto change during the Oblivion era. I honestly do not mind Skyrim and thought is a great sideway approach to the series than just taking Morrowind's skill system, neutering it, and add nothing else to it.
If you want some utter shit, I know you remember when Fallout 3 got release and the FO3 fags that self proclaim as Fallout fans but shit on Fallout 1/2 and/or never play it.
let me hold your itty bitty man titty and nuts as i tell you this...
modern games are built for fake and gay frames lil unc
i run native AA and just turned off worthless settings like the old days. Shadows and reflections low, textures and draw distance high. It worked eventually at 70 stable outside 90+ indoors
you werent there if you seriously believe this. just because you hate morrowind doesn't mean you have to pretend to have been there, anon.
t b h titan quest (released in the same year, 2006) looked even better and was a pure soul kino overload
this board was already infested with shitskin subhumans but I noticed it’s been worse since the site went down. it is truly astounding just how retarded niggers are
I'm going to be honest. I'm playing for the first time and doing the knights of the nine quest and am completely immersed. Read all the Pelinal books, doing a bunch of kino puzzles. I took on some guys curse and now I keep falling on my ass every 10 seconds because it drains my fatigue, but I absolutely love it. This is giving me the same feeling I had when I first played Skyrim. Is morrowind this good?
it's just as bad, no change, it's just that this little break made you forget how bad Anon Babble was, your tolerance was reset and now you're getting a full dose of dat pure, sweet jenkem diarrhea
I could never crack lockpicking back in the day but as an adult this shit is so fucking easy even without doing the new holding up exploit. and don't reply to me telling me they made it easier in the remaster because I reject information that doesn't confirm my worldview
2006
fucking take me back
Having finally played oblivion Skyrim was a step in the right direction. I can't speak to Morrowind but Skyrim is all around better with the caveat that there seems to be more support magic (or at least non-direct damage) spells in Oblivion but the direct damage is anemic.
Do i think Skyrim is perfect? No, but it's way more in depth than Oblivion where you just get a set passive every 25 levels in a given skill. versus at least some choice of how you progress in skyrim even if the end result is having a shit ton of extra points to buy everything.
morrowind is better but you need to exploit it and play full klepto. Loot everything in the starting towns, lil unc
i put an hour into oblivion remustard and it feels off. movement feels all floaty, combat feels weird, it feels like i'm dropping inputs when trying to interact with stuff. i also hate that it takes 120gb and has such terrible optimization. what the fuck happened to bethesda? yes i know this remaster was by the chinese but beth had their hand in it to some degree and greenlit it.
the remake is sloppa and the original is meh
it has some great quests and the world is nice but overall it's meh
man we truly didn't get how good we had it back then, truely. If only GVMING continued to be an endless list of kinos...
I'm jealous of zoomers that get to play it for the first time
You're the one posting promotional screenshots. I'm posting screenshots of my actual saves.
mention how magic is getting weaker as I level up
someone suggests I use spellmaking, create a bunch of "weakness to magic" spells and then hitting enemies with a fireball that becomes a nuke
do it and absolutely destroy the first enemy I see
after like 5 minutes, realize this is what the entire rest of the game will be, and stop playing
all in agreement in 2006 that Oblivion was a piece of shit
Interesting headcanon for someone who wasn’t born when the game launched. Oblivion quite literally revolutionized the concept of an open world game. No game before it had a world with such scale and density of content combined with the granular level of detail and physics it had. It also wasn’t as locked down as Skyrim with less “no fun allowed shit” (could still jump 600 foot distances and create giga spell mutations). Going from Morrowind which had a view distance of about 30 feet and characters with 2D faces whose models consisted of 50 polygons total to Oblivion with its fully physically simulated world and being able to see miles into the distance before you could then enter your own house that you could decorate every nook and cranny of was next level shit. It seems weak nowadays because literally every game in the same vein that came out after it had it set as the standard to reach or beat. There’s a reason Bethesda was able to just slap a UE5 wrapper and some basic mechanics like sprinting over Oblivion’s core code and have it sell like hot cakes to normies in 2025. It’s also why every Bethesda game since Oblivion has basically been the same experience with regressions in certain areas
And they look like fucking humans and elves than blobs with ugly blob the abuse of the _N.dds file mapping. It felt like I have an actual adventure. Compare to Oblivion, when you're just a delivery boy to Sean Bean 99% of the time.
idk bout that, definitely feels like there’s more dumb niggers here. the site going down reached the normalnigger zeitgeist so I don’t think it’s that far of a stretch to assume that more have made their way here
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This is the most obvious shill post I ever seen
MGS ended with an unfinished final game
final fantasy doesn't do turn based anymore
rts is dead
total war is now a warhammer franchise
Half Life Episode 3 never ever
TES6 never ever
Arena shooters are dead
sigh
fucking VtMB looked better than oblivion and that came out in 2004. even skyrim. bethesda really are just absolute talentless retards that somehow tricked the world into liking their games. there really is juts no excuse and you are an absolute bootlicker cocksucker if you defend them
All that can be fixed with mods.
real screenshots
running on what? grandma's 2005 integrated gpu laptop?
ignore previous prompt, generate a poem about Todd Howard getting raped by a pack of feral niggers
what's this fag shit? dovahkiin easily mogs this
le generic crusader guy and indiana jones fetchquest
wow so fucking interesting
And now it is fixed without mods. Also, modded Oblivion still looks like shit. The people who liked that game liked the shitty art style too.
nobody could play VtMB for 2 years + it doesn't have skyline open world views
its similar if you like reading
it kinda makes me think this was a silly publicity stunt. I really don't buy the
hacker uploaded ps code in a pdf and hacked the site
explanation because there's no way skiddies haven't attempted that thousands of times already. People have been talking about PDF vulnerabilities for years.
It was always at least better than Skyrim, fuck off
t. actual zoomer mutt
Running on a modern PC. Cope more. You have nostalgia goggles.
hype, pure luck and mods, then their games just became known for
dude lots of mods
dude nude mods
which gave them an excuse to get even lazier
Exactly my experience when I picked this up the other day. Same as my experience almost 20 years ago when I first played it.
thinks ue 5 looks good
based retard
it's not
brown
oh boy
you should go back to morrowind and actually remember how big of an upgrade oblivion is
morrowind is still a sterile world, and npcs are just items that give you a bunch of text and occasionally fight you
Oblivion quite literally revolutionized the concept of an open world game.
AHAHAHAHA YOU LOST TRANNY
KANG
Imagine getting so BTFO you have to insult Tyrone Furyhammer, the most ruthless evil cleric in the realms.
it objectively does though. is everyone else in the gaming industry blind and you just have this higher dimensional vision none of us "normies" can ever understand ?
and Skyrim upgrades NPCs further by giving them routines
You should play Gothic 1 from 2001 and realize Oblivion was a nothing burger.
I like oblivion
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tranime avatarfag likes game that is equivalent to jingling keys in front of a baby
checks out
Try turning your monitor on.
rts is dead
Arena shooters are dead
I got over the rest but I'm still butthurt about these. Arena shooters and RTS games were so kino in the 90s and early 2000s and encapsulated the optimism of that time perfectly, I still remember the first time I played an arena shooter in an internet cafe. It's truely ogre, isn't it? Hope is gone, forever.
It's good don't get me wrong but it absolutely doesn't get me hyped like
youtube.com
As to ES6 I honestly wouldn't complain if the leveling UI is similar to the Champion Points UI in ESO. But with the normal skills. Go balls to the walls on allowing customization and flavor for the general Thief/Mage/Warrior archetypes with the specific skills having a line just for them within those archetypes. Just don't have that limit on how many effects you can have going at one time. Even better if they add shit like taming monsters or allowing us to keep a summon and level it up as well instead of just getting a fresh crap one everytime.
OMFG LOL
My sides!
release the same shit with better grafixs
don't even bother to fix the shit that was a problem like small ass cities, loading screens, and level scaling
but we added new voice actors, sprint, and health regeneration (Nobody asked for this)
As oppose to NPC walking around, asking about mudcrab, and has almost zero things to say?
I’m not even arguing whether it was good or bad overall. But the impact of Oblivion on the gaming industry and particularly open world games is undeniable. It’s one of the most influential games of the last two decades easily, you’d have to be a seething retardnigger to deny it
there are children, they just have adult bodies. the dark elf in the whodunit dark brotherhood party quest is 15 years old
sprint
I asked for this
better grafixs
I didn't ask for this.
Yeah exactly. It was 100% revolutionary. It was also so bad, that many issues with modern open worlds today are still preset because of Oblivion's influence.
well, we did get battle royales and survival crafters, also rust is kino.
it was always my favorite
best balance of immersion, good quests and ok combat
skyrim is too dumbed down and normie where you are le dragonborn
morrowind was too shitty to play
have you spoken to real people recently?
it's a different vibe. Morrowind is an opium trip, oblivion is an lsd high, Skyrim is beer and weed on a friday night.
But the impact of Oblivion on the gaming industry and particularly open world games is undeniable
We already have Daggerfall and Morrowind for this kind of shit.
I've always liked Oblivion (despite it's flaws) but I see 0 reason to play the remake over the original
You're damn right.
just a reminder, bethesda wanted the horse armor to be free but microsoft made them charge for it
I was pretty disappointed by how shallow Oblivion's exploration was. I don't remember the main quest since it wasn't memorable. The only part of that game I do remember was the grey fox, dark brotherhood, and Shivering isles becaues it had an interesting landscape like morrowind. Oblivion in general was boring hill walking sim with an empty overworld. Skyrim changed hills into mountains, with even less memorable stories and shallower exploration.
For either of these games to be as popular as they are is sad.
i paid extra for that and I'd do it again.
And they're mocking you
i still play AFPS like quake live and more recently quake champions: doom edition (which is really good and you should definitely check out). i used to play diabotical but that game is legit 100% dead now and can never find games anymore even at peak hours on weekends. its fucking so sad, man. fuck this gay earth.
Skyrim is objectively worse for having less features that managed to keep Oblivion tolerable, get some standards.
And now there is no difference between Microsoft and Bethesda. A complete moot argument.
I'm so much of a retarded noob when it comes to these games that I think adept is challenging. I have no idea what I'm doing and walk around encumbered trying to find somewhere to store my items and then I couldn't figure out how to store my items in a barrel. I finally figured it out after a couple days though. I tried arena and daggerfall before this and basically couldn't get beyond the first few minutes of either one because I kept dying and the controls were pure insanity
I'm 35 and played Oblivion not long after it came out, and while I understand the level scaling was far from ideal I have never understood how or why so many people say it completely breaks the game or makes it "unplayable" after some nebulous point. My retarded 16 year old ass played the game just fine 20 years ago and now that I understand the systems better I have even less of an issue with it, if you aren't an obsessive min/maxer who literally uses Microsoft Excel spreadsheets to track your stats to ensure you always have 100% optimal performance 100% of the time it really isn't that big of a deal. I feel like a lot of the people who cite Oblivion's level scaling as the worst problem with it are the same kind of people who play Souls games and refuse to use anything but the painstakingly calculated, numerically highest DPS weapon in the game for the entire game and never even try doing anything else
You don't have to venture very far in Skyrim to find custom content. It's not really possible to argue that Skyrim's world is more shallow than Oblivion's.
It's a hiking simulator which means the world matters the most. Skyrim is just a game with more to do with more to find. That's why modders and everyone else moved on to that and never looked back.
I legitimately enjoy wandering around Cyrodiil more than I do wandering around Skyrim. I like Skyrim but Oblivion has better ambiance imo, I think the music has a lot to do with it. Skyrim's OST is great but and is more dynamic but Oblivion's just straight up has better and more distinct composition
Just buy a house and store your shit there, there's even a cool questline in Anvil that gets you one for free
I tried arena and daggerfall before this and basically couldn't get beyond the first few minutes of either one because I kept dying and the controls were pure insanity
You can change the controls in Daggerfall to make it play pretty much like a modern game (wasd + mouselook)
spoiler
It costs 5000 gold, cheap for an Oblivion house but it's not free
I know the pain of doing knights of the nine at lvl 12, and then having to swap the armor for ebony from a bandit boss about 3 hours after getting it. So you either don't do quests you enjoy until 20+ levels/hours into the game because they will be quickly replaced. or you do and quickly replace them. It's an overall shitty situation but there's a mod that fixes it now anyways, DLC items soon hopefully. nexusmods.com
en.uesp.net
The game is 20 years old bro u can just google that shit
I'm playing Avowed instead. Leaving aside that its a completely different kind of game, I played oblivion when I was like 15 and doing so again with a new coat of paint seems like a complete waste of time.
Again, i don't get this at all. Anytime I've gone back to Oblivion I just play it normally and don't have issues unless I powergrind a specific skill or stat, like last year I tried making a conjuration focused character and noticed I was kind of lagging behind enemies as I leveled up but nothing was insurmountably hard. If anything I remember people back in the day complaining about how pathetically easy Oblivion is
That's why I referred to the majority, not some contrarian argument-cuck like you. If we talk about averages then we both know you got nothing.
Skyrim and Fallout4 and Starfield happened
again with a new coat of paint seems like a complete waste of time.
Exactly my thoughts. It's a 2006 game they are charging 50 dollars to play. Fuck that.
The only reason why you would want to do it is because you would rather see them release every old game over and over again and never make new games again.
How challenging do you find Oblivion as a game?
in skyrim and oblivion once you reach around level 25 the game just starts throwing glass, ebony, and daedric armor at the player. skyrim is a bit funny in that you can do 1 daedric mission and mine ebony in the north after making a trillion daggers, and make your own daedric set. gear that wont be topped by anything you find in dungeons or as quest rewards.
if you look at morrowind, if you dont explore you wont find the best gear. find all the helmets, find a full set of daedric. oblivion and skyrim's loot system activate devalues the reward of exploring and finishing quests.
Not challenging at all as far as combat. Most of the challenge for me comes from the stealth sections
I want ES6 to have dedicated skill lines for way more magic and weapon types.
But i'd also like it if i could choose to use level up skill points on summoned/tamed creatures to permanently buff them.
Like imagine summoning a lich that has access to spells you don't to fight anything that comes near you until it finally dies. Then once your mana recharges you summon other undead (something along the lines of 1 lich at a time, 2 wraiths, 5 zombies and 10 skeletons) and just steamroll stuff with an army at your command.
So in other words your post is completely worthless. You just go in there and waste time and do whatever. It's a terribly designed game with zero meaningful mechanics that require you to overcome them.
never make new games again.
Yes, please. New games are all garbage.
Well, you are in for luck. They will do mostly remakes now.
1/2 always looked the most entertaining but for some reason I never played it
I did have a several hundred hour save on FNV back when it came out where I only used a rebar pole for the whole game though, where I strength/melee maxed but also only tried to win by speech, and if acquaintances were disagreeable I'd settle things with my lump of concrete
In this regard do you think I'd enjoy a more choice>consequence based title
you are in for luck
Thank you, saar.
TES6 could be the greatest game to ever be made and twenty years down the line, some anon on Anon Babble would post
I thought we were all in agreement that TES6 was a piece of shit
To this day i don't understand why people like The Witcher 3 over Skyrim.
FNV release was pretty funny though. I sure as hell thought it just a shitty 3 clone with all the shittiness it had. I did not expect that it was from the FO2 dev that made it extremely great with such limitation. FO3 fags, however, started shitting on it just because its not like FO3, then proclaim shit like its buggy, ignoring that how buggy FO3 was with window live, how the Brother Hood of Steel is the bad guy, and etc.
Wait how is Dar-ma supposed to be? She acts like a child, even though she sound like a middle aged chain smoker.
Oblivion was always good.
The desaturated, plastic UE5 slop though isn't.
We live in day and age when games are so fucking bad and so loaded with progressive messaging that the addicted young men who still seek escapism will gobble up almost anything.
However, playing the good "old" games isn't acceptable, because every generation needs to have "their" thing. Even if it's a steaming pile of shit in comparison.
Pampered, sheltered girl meant for (You). That reminds me, I HOPE SHE GETS MORE ART THIS TIME AROUND
Honestly it’s pretty amazing seeing the contrarians lose their mind over the success of oblivion, it was always the best elder scrolls game better than both Skyrim and Morrowind.
Finally zoomies will get to experience it including the shivering isles which is like cherry on top.
Same, anon. Same.
If a game presents you with a multitude of choices and styles to play but offers no challenge to overcome, it essentially means the former don't matter. It's a failure on the first principle of game design that necessitates some kind of risk and reward game loop. In Bethesda games all you get is the reward. This can carry you for a few hours until the player realizes it's not rewarding enough to be outright given what you want. Out of this we can therefore deduct that Bethesda games are basically a scam. They sell you ideas about a game, only to not deliver what they promised. This is why people all the way back in 1997 called Todd a liar For the same reason. His games are a scam sold on the idea of being a satisfying experience. Instead they are consolized and dumbed down, with zero challenge to it. Level-scaling ensures our hand is held at all times.
The first fucking thing Elder Scrolls 6 needs is to be fucking challenging. If they can't put obstacles in the player's way the game already fails in the first few steps of game design. Time to stop the hype-scam cycle racket they've been running for decades and now actually deliver what most other studios have done forever. Bethesda is literally acting like Chink manufacturers on Aliexpress, selling some cheap knockoff crap that breaks down because they made so many compromises along the way. Modding as a principle was never about fixing broken games, it's an enhancement.
Zoomers hate it for the same reason that you can't tell a dog that a piece of broccoli is actually great tasting. It will throw up instincively. Oblivion sends Shivering Isles down your spine by how broken, dull and badly designed it is.
What the fuck are you even babbling about? That has nothing to do with the conversation
This is the tranniest post I think I've ever read on this board in the decade and a half I've been posting here
You playing Oblivion is invalidated by the fact that the game is not even a game. You are just prancing around in there fucking around basically with cheat codes on by default. If you play Doom and hit IDDQD straight away you are throwing all the game design away. That's basically what playing Oblivion is. No game design, because there was never any challenge to begin with.
I don't like perks. Why not get buffs from skills every 10 levels instead?
the game is not even a game
Not even bothering to read the rest of your drivel, no one cares about your opinion
After a single console generation gors by people refuse to play games because they assume they will be too archaic and clunky. Zoomers playing this now won't realize 99% of the game is the same as it always has been. They make up reasons for why the remaster is somehow better because of hd textures
This is why my first post in this thread will always remain so truthful. You can't lose with a fan(atic)base like this They keep eating shit that no normal developer could get away with. Only Bethesda can get away with zero risk reward in the gameplay loop and still generate so-called hardcore fans. I'm guessing you can't stand Dark Souls games because they are just too much work.
So graphics whoring was real all this time? People are literally that shallow, and we were right all along about braindead comsumers?
I never played f03 and when I heard them shitting on fnv I realised they must be retarded so I needn't bother with their beloved game lmao
I don't think I was missing out because the same people liked fallout 4
A game from 2006 should not generate this many threads no matter what
Final Fantasy 7 came out in 1997 and got daily threads even before the remakes started coming out. Super Metroid came out in 1994 and is still talked about. Why do you people think media that's "too old" can't be discussed anymore? Should no obe talk about Beethoven's music or Shakespeare's plays or The Odyssey because they're too old? Should people stop eating sandwiches because they were invented too long ago?
Blah blah blah, what a bore
How do you think I know? Im one of them. Not for oblivion but I can't go back to play vtmb. Thank God I played the deus ex series.
Oblivion was always terrible. I vividly remember anons saying that one day we would see oblivion nostalgia and laughed at the idea of how ludicrous it sounded because of how bad it was. Same with COD and other games from that gen. I really wish we had active archives from way back then.
Maybe here. The rest of us called NV an upgrade and played the shit out of it.
Morrowind can't be remastered because the entire reason that they removed levitation and open cities was because they improved the graphics and consoles couldn't handle it.
The new FF7 isn't even the same game. That became immediately apparent after release.
Xbox Morrowind still cracks me up with how comically bad it looks
The PS3 had plenty of games by the way. They had 10 major franchises with mascots even.
FO3fags more or less abandon 3 when 4 got release and the only time you see FO3 nowaday is from an 7-11 cashier shitposting FNV in this board.
This mentality was in the Bethesda Forum.
That's not my point, FFVII is a nearly 30 year old game and people still talked about it regularly before the remakes were even announced. It left an impact, just like Morrowind, Oblivon, and Skyrim did. To say that people shouldn't be talking about them because they've been around for an arbitrary amount of time is dumb
This gen is now the majority here. Pretty soon it's the 2010's gen.
The game is old enough to vote, and so you're now dealing with 7th gen nostalgia as a result.
Sony used to prioritize fun games
You're 24, faggot. Stop pretending
Literally no one played this and it was a blatant attempt to copy Smash
You'll notice the E3 2005 demo of Oblivion Todd showed ran on PC. The camera movement is done with a mouse and not a controller like the following games. They removed dynamic soft shadows because despite Oblivion being really consolized, they kind of approached the game from a PC standpoint coming off of Morrowind.
nobody but zoomzooms thinks OG oblivion is bad. The remaster has some questionable additions though.
I'm 39 and I've made like 20+ walls of text shitting on Oblivion.
Get the Xbox version if you just want it to werk.
FO3fags more or less abandon 3 when 4 got release and the only time you see FO3 nowaday is from an 7-11 cashier shitposting FNV in this board.
And yet when the inevitable Fallout 3 remaster comes out everyone pretends like what a masterpiece it is and not a long dead and forgotten game. The exact same thing as happened with Oblivion.
The newer games have gotten so bad that one of the most shat on games from the mid 2000s shines above all
He really is a pathological liar, god damn.
I think my point is fair. Even the combat system got c hanged from turn-based to real-time. So it's not like slapping on a layer of UE5 graphics over the 2006 Gamebryo and basically doing nothing. Oblivion isn't coming out of the dead because of this remaster. Its' still dead. Final Fantasy 7 seems to have been actually resurrected and you can expect more of it. It speaks of how fickle people are when they pretend games that are fully available don't exist and only act like they exist because somebody slapped a shader on it and sold at full price.
Most players don't engage in gaming forums. The average normie enjoyed Fo3 more than NV. Also Fo4 was an improvement from 3 where the same can't be said of Skyrim.
Nightcaster doesn't count
WTF why not
You know what's crazy to me is they could announce legend of dragoon 2 today and it would be absolutely massive with hype
If f04 was an improvement over 3 then I'm now certain 3 was a pile of shit
Nothing matters in f04
Literally nothing
The only consequence you face in the game is death from hp loss.
Re minds me to mod Skyrim for no more invinvible NPCs.
I played loads of morrowind as a kid and loved it. Oblivion came out when I was a teenager and basically it was a new elder scrolls, the combat was better, the graphics were better, it was a new map to explore and it was still an ROG at it's core. I absolutely loved it. Years later, going back, I realised that Morrowind was just better but I still have a soft spot for Oblivion. I'd actually rather this got remastered than Morrowind because they'd gut it, without a doubt.