French demons cannot make a JRPG

French triple a developer faggots shouldn't declare their game is a japanese rpg just because it has turn based combat and the UI is ripping off persona 5. Ubislop demons using the term JRPG as a shorthand for saying it's turn based is tantamount to calling turn based combat a stupid niche for weeaboos, like troons saying that men liking boobs is unnatural. As someone who likes both JRPG's and turn based combat in games I resent this assertion. i am not a pervert with a fetish. You are.
Especially whoever wrote this article, total game journo death NOW

I don't even have to think that hard to prove this wrong, most final fantasy games have the main characters be at worst young adults

JRPG is a set of design philosophies.
Just because something originated in Japan doesn't mean that others from around the world can't make it either.
COE33 succeeded because it doesn't have anime on the cover and isn't tied down by tired old Japanese tropes/whatever passes for humor over there. People see anime on the cover of a game and that shit straight doesn't exist to them. Doesn't even register.
Clair Obscur is literally the first RPG in decades that actually treats the average, everyman player with a shred of respect by dropping the anime shit, deleting the Japanese cringe "humor", and giving them something that looks more like a high quality Netflix series than generic, disposable, seasonal anime.

Baiting again huh

The developer does not describe their game as a JRPG. The only place the term appears on the Steam page is in reviews and user-defined tags, because users are idiots.

he's not wrong

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50 hour ue5 parryslop french therapy session

$50+tip

Joke's on you, I played it for free on Gamepass.

anon it's an homage to FF10 even down to the music cribbing from the to zanarkand theme
it doesn't matter if he didn't use the word jrpg that's what it is

This genre clearly made for teens in mind is better when it's actually for me the adult that refuses to engage with adult media

These are the same people who go crazy when the silly cartoon for kids takes a hard turn into shitty drama

aging up

Wanna know how I know this troon didn't even play the game?

So this game is being hyped up by people who hate JRPGs. Makes sense.

Asian barefoot hag>>>>>>>gay edgy teenagers

Maelle is 16 years old. Though, if the average lifespan is around 30ish years, then that makes her middle aged.

To be fair alot of Japanese RPGs do have goofy tropes in their cast in the last decade or so. I do think it's silly to call them all teenagers though as plenty of party members in them are adults.

I like JRPGs. It's almost exclusively what I play these days, and I'm having a great time with this game. But it's definitely made itself normalfag friendly by not applying a typically Japanese art style and having more adults than children in the main cast, which are two things western normalfags just cannot ever make any exceptions for, regardless of anything else.

adults that act like retarded teenagers

Bro didnt play ff9 :skull:

Only weaboos care about jrpgs, faggot.

standard cast of tedious teenagers

Yeah now we have a standard cast of tedious adults.

Clair Obscur follows on the heels of Larian's BG3 as the first wRPGs in a decade to be successful largely because it dropped the gay and tranny pandering shit that has been plaguing wRPGs coming out of Canada and the US. Nobody wants cringy shit like Dragon Age Transguard.

after years of despising games

You don't have to tell us twice journo, it's a common fact.

JRPG is a set of design philosophies.

Just because something originated in Japan doesn't mean that others from around the world can't make it either.

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Jimmy Saville mindbroke britbongs so much they can't play a game with 16 year olds in it.

Lmao.

I dropped BG3 because of the faggot shit, E33 is good because it lacks the inherent faggotry most modern WRPGs have.

JRPG is a genre name
not that literally its an rpg from japan, or are u telling me souls games are jrpgs, because they are rpgs from japan.

stop being retarded, its obv a jrpg

The world has unironically grown out of Japan.

Well said, OP.

The most played game so far this year is Japanese, bikini schizo

That's it, putting a ban on playing anything that isn't American or Japanese. Fuck the West and the East.

What game? Pokemon?

it's honestly impressive how many characters there are in E33 and just how annoying all of them are

"Tedious" is just a dogwhistle for "sexually attractive". It's anathema to these lunatics to see teenagers toward the end of puberty having sex appeal.

The game is good not because it ditched 10 decades of shitty western design and tranny corpo bullshit while looking taking inspiration from the Japanese classics

The game is good because I hate anime

You just know journalists would find a way to make a game made by a bunch of French weebs fit their agenda.

Mass Effect was the first successful western JRPG
It had waifus, ancient prophesied evil that awakens, endless dialogues and crappy combat

That's true though.
Even RPGs made in Japan that don't follow the JRPG structure aren't called JRPGs as it would confuse people.
Chinese food is called Chinese food even when made by non-Chinese living outside of China.

Maybe more western games should follow JRPG structures then, it really says something that the best French game ever was inspired by FF7-9 and has no niggers or LGBT crap in it

It's 2025
Do you seriously still not know that JRPGs were just ripoffs of games like Wizardry and the whole thing is actually a western genre that we can do with whatever we like?

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Homosexuality should be banned so these people suicide.

For how much this literal goyslop is getting shilled it surprised me to know they are bragging about a mere million sales worldwide on all platforms.

which are two things western normalfags just cannot ever make any exceptions for, regardless of anything else.

they make exceptions for it all the time if the game is chinky or gooky (see hoyoslop and nexonslop), they just say that because saying "i hate japan because my kike masters told me to hate them" would get them ignored in any real discussion

I've seen self-assured westerners try their hand at anime too but they can't do it.

Wakfu completely disproves your statement

Had to look it up. lmao no.

What do you mean by that? What is the feature of anime as a medium that separates it from animation outside of japan?
You do know that manga only exists because Osamu Tezuka watched old disney cartoons and copied the artstyle, right?

you drooling nigger, only very early anime is like that, it formed it's own art style that separates it from literally everything else, it doesn't matter what inspiried it, it became it's own unique thing

attention to detail and choreography. Just giving a shit about the medium overall

"I hate children/teenagers" = Pdfl

beta noncharacter mc for japanese incels and salarymen to self insert

harem of 10/10 buxom babes slurping over his cock

"if we kill him we will be just like him"

"the darkness"

characters are just anime tropes

"hey gang, let's go kill God"

It was anime cringe that was holding jrpg's back.
There's no shame in admiting it.

All I've played is Kingdom Hearts and Persona: the post

People like you are called tourists for good reason.

O rly? Thank you I did not know that all anime does not all look like mickey mouse.
So, by your retarded definition, if a western studio "gives a shit about medium" the resulting product magically becomes anime. Braindead retard.

Most jrpgs aren't even like that asuka

Thanks for confirming you don't actually play JRPGs.

yeah that's right. Why are western cartoons so shitty?

I disagree with your pic related. Anime became more appealing in some ways over time, but it never became as expressive as the major American works of the 90s.

I disagree with your post and anime already surpassed american works of the 90s since the 80s

In terms of animation quality? No, it didn't.

anime already surpassed american works of the 90s since the 80s

Most anime is animated at like 5 FPS

it's not even a KH thing, sora has a surprisingly high body count
that people just poof into disney deaths when sora murders the shit out of them is another matter entirely, but even with that he 100% murdered nort's ass in cold blood thrice

yeah it did

Jin Roh is smooth to an insane degree and with highly realistic designs, really only Richard Williams stuff like Thief and Cobbler or Roger Rabbit surpass it.

same but with american cartoons and no perspective or depth and flat colors

Well, he did say darkness and nobody does darkness like kingdom hearts.

Had to look it up.

Zoomer, opinion invalidated

People see anime on the cover of a game and that shit straight doesn't exist to them

So true. The face is exactly the same on all of them and the hair is a different color...nigga please, I'm not playing that shit.

I'll take it a step further. Secret of Nimh was made in 1982. Go find me an anime from any decade that's as or more comprehensively animated than that.

That is also a jewtuber forced meme from retards that didn't play the games.
You are far sooner going to get sick of DA KEYBLADE WIELDER CHOSEN ONE than you are of ansem(true) and mickey whining about the darkness in the most cryptic way imaginable in like one scene per game.

slop

fuck outta here with that bullshit you faggot

I told you faggots that Dark Souls was a JRPG years ago and got lambasted but now I'm finally validated thanks to contrarian schizos.

see

anon, DQ used to hit 3 million in japan alone on release week, this shit is hardly a special achievement
hell not even that long ago flopazio hit a million and even that got laughed at for being piss low numbers for how much it got shilled

Square enix lost

If it's a genre then please define that genre.

Because if Pokemon is a JRPG and Nier is a JRPG, which both are referred to as, please tell me the throughline between these two that isn't that they're developed by Japanese studios.

all of this love for E33

which is throwing out tropes and gameplay mechanics JRPGs have used for ages

people making excuses to "like it"

I can't believe everyone ignored JRPGs this whole time because they were racist. It should have been obvious though.

Yeah I've seen those, and they don't measure up. They all have stiff faces during speech, characters stuck in the same profile during most scenes, and have the same general composition as the diagrams in a wikihow article. Try again.

nier is an action rpg.

Why are you censoring yourself like a reddit zoomer?

It's not really surprising. People in the west have been insoctrinated for decades to look at Japanese games with disdain. Case in point: X-play.

The only idiots I see here are the retards who think the j in jrpg denotes a region and not a style. Games can be made in the style of Japanese RPGs and not come from Japan. How is that so hard for you idiots to understand? JRPG is a genre, based on a specific gameplay style and philosophy dating back to the 1980s. It's not just any rpg that's made in Japan. That's ridiculous.

Please refer to It doesn't matter that the gameplay mechanics have existed for decades. The west came in and did it "right" by deleting anime, deleting bad anime jokes, stilted dialogue, and other shit you only get from bad JRPGs.

people ignored JRPGs because the dialogue and voice acting is shit. The wonders of a good dub and dialogue that isn't retarded

Action gameplay does not disqualify something being a JRPG. If that were the case then the Tales of franchise are not JRPGs, which is an absurd statement.

If you don't consider Tales of JRPGs and the specific definition of "JRPG" to you is turn based gameplay, then you're not talking about JRPGs, you're talking about Turn-based RPGs.

I don't believe for a second that any western developer, let alone remnants from Ubisoft, wrote dialogue that isn't retarded.

Still not buying your game.

youtube.com/watch?v=umIBbT6uwZI

you know youtube exists and everyone can tell you're lying right? holy overrated as fuck

they're European, not mutts, I can buy it.

Bruh the DQ demake that released recently got a million just in japan in 2 weeks.

1. [NSW] Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake – 70,993 / 712,188

3. [PS5] Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake – 20,369 / 200,944

Sales from japan on steam are enough to cover the 100 short of a million and then some if you are that pissy about it.
Again, in japan alone, the actual numbers are much higher at 2 million in just 2 weeks.
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Why the fuck are frogkikes bragging about a mere million?

JRPGs have been doing everything that E33 is doing since before VA became the norm in games. The dialogue and conversations between the cast is so inspired by weebshit in general that it's actually fucking hilarious.

let alone remnants from Ubisoft,

That explains a lot of why this literal goyslop is getting shilled so much.

Now post your own examples alongside it so we can see how totally not retarded your argument supposedly is, if you even have one.

Nier has never been called a JRPG.
Not all turn based rpgs are jrpgs. There are western style rpgs like Baldur's Gate that are turn based.

nah they were ignored because they're bigots toward japanese and asians in general. These articles are sad attempts at saying they think asian culture is cringe

a high quality Netflix series

This does not exist.
But thank you, now I get who the game was made for.
It's for those most despicable normietards even other normies tend to look down on who get immersed on Netflix puke.

Not one post in and you already made it about trannies. Obsessed.

without the crucial component of it being natural, you mean. The little things like characters stumbling over their words, speaking over each other, etc, goes a long way.
The story beats by and large are standard JRPG fare, but the execution is free from the taint of Jap writing. No fucking Jap game would dare end on the same note E33 would

This does not exis-ACK!

Thanks for proving that you have no taste and are probably too poor to afford a netflix subscription.

Nier has never been called a JRPG.

Yes, it has. Don't bullshit me just because you don't personally consider it one.

At this point I don't even know why goyim even try to pretend they aren't extremely racist and anti-japan.
Even other normalgroids are noticing now after the shitshow that was asscreed zesty niggers.

Japs are racist too so why do you give a fuck?

everybody knows that you fucking retard, you think you discovered water on mars?

a jrpg is japanese only
A manga is japanese only
an anime is japanese only

Your brown diluted interchangable jewish slopworld is of no interest to anyone with a modicum of taste.

Clair Obscur is literally the first RPG in decades that actually treats the average, everyman player with a shred of respect by dropping the anime shit, deleting the Japanese cringe "humor", and giving them something that looks more like a high quality Netflix series than generic, disposable, seasonal anime.

this anon is correct but the weebs are going to seethe

Marxist hipsters in the West have been taking subtle jabs at the Japanese for a long time, largely on the basis of being too traditional. There's some real animosity there and being outdone by Japan in all facets of the video game industry is likely a big part of it.

The French do JRPGs better. South Korea does manga better. China does anime better. Japan just isn't needed in the modern age, okay?

No fucking Jap game would dare end on the same note E33 would

Do you get off to being ridiculously wrong? Is it your fetish? Because it sure seems like it.

Japan has been doing jack shit but pumping out gacha slop for years now. European supremacy makes both mutts and weebs asshurt.

Japanese cope by admitting their best years were in school and dreaming about them endlessly.
Feminized western "people" cope by demanding of others to call their current years the best year ever.

Action gameplay does not disqualify something being a JRPG.

wrong.
tales of games are in fact action rpgs too.

holy shit anon you went with stranger things as quality netflix content? Anon Babble is such an underage board

South Korea does manga better. China does anime better.

Now this is just plain COPE

Between like 2006 and I'd say 2012 or so it was basically IMPOSSIBLE to find JRPGs in retailers.
That was also the time where stations like G4TV went on... weirdly racist tangents that had nothing to do with a game and framed Japanese games as cringe for the sole reason of being Japanese, constantly displaying things out of context.

Yet, when JRPGs were stocked by retailers, they sold like hotcakes. Gee, I wonder why. Maybe these games being "outdated" and "out of fashion" and "cringe" was just completely fabricated by Western retailers and the Western game industry so that they could sell their shit more.
Especially considering that beloved Western RPGs like Mass Effect BASICALLY goes with JRPG tropes for their party members but would never admit it.

Xenoblade Chronicles 1 sold SO well that it was constantly sold out ion the retail version to the point it was temporarily 200 bucks on Amazon. Nintendo's 1st full game that they sold on the E-Shop (rather than just WiiWare or Virtual Console games) was Xenoblade Chronicles for that reason.
Even though the game sold like hotcakes, retailers ordered only small amounts of extra copies.

I now 100% think that this USAID money at work to manufacture changing tides of the market just by paying off the media to frame things in their favor and pay off retailers to primarily stock their stuff and stock lower amounts of competitor products.

Europe won.

These tourists don't even play turn based JRPGs themselves, they're retarded

Japan has been doing jack shit but pumping out gacha slop for years now.

they are the only ones still making real games instead of GAAS slop anon
ironically enough nintendo can sneeze in the gacha market and utterly rape all the shilled hoyoslop by orders of magnitude without even trying, which is fucking hilarious

No, no, this isn't about what is considered an action RPG. We're talking about what is considered a JRPG. You can define Tales of as an Action RPG, but that is irrelevant, what we're talking about is what is a JRPG

So if you believe it, say it. Say "Tales of games are not JRPGs". Say it if you really believe it and we'll all sit here and laugh at you.

gacha is good though? Also soulslop, monhun, tales of, atelier, trials, etc are better than bigotry charged french trash

Solo Leveling is the best anime of the 2020s. Nezha is the most successful animated movie series in the world, beating Spirited Away.

Why do journos love this game so much?

ending with the main protagonists facing irreconcilable differences and fighting to the "death" over it, with the "good" ending leading to the world being destroyed and the rest of the party looking at the hero in disdain

name one that plays it fully straight without copping out or giving you a gay golden ending

ITT: gooks and SEAniggers getting mad that Europe is superior to them as usual

Nier. You literally doom humanity by killing the Shadowlord.

solo leveling lost to some rezero adaptation in the same season. No one likes it other than thirdies watching anime on piracy sites

And just like how every time Netflix makes a mature and real life version of anime, they fail at the fundamentals of making a fun jrpg combat system. Choosing instead to use a basic RPG Maker system but with QTEs to appeal to the masses whose ADHD makes them zone out if they aren't forced to pay attention.

teenager stories are just boring. Their motives are dumb and their ideals are even dumber

Solo Leveling is the best anime of the 2020s.

It didn't even recoup it's costs due to selling a mere ninety one BDs, and streaming numbers didn't make anywhere close to what they need despite bragging about crashing a literal who pirate site for 2 minutes that was known for going down constantly for hours when DBS and JJK had a new ep.

not a cop out

humanity was always fucked so it was pointless to begin with. Also Yoko Taro is a juvenile faggot so it doesn't have any gravitas to it.

Solo Leveling is the best anime of the 2020s

LMAO
It lost to a girl sitting. It lost to cunny ice-skating. It wasn't even close.

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I Am Setsuna. Please play more video games before sounding like a retard.

Pathetic.

Stiff faces during speech

snapping between key frames with no transitional poses

characters almost never interact with each other in the same frame. They just react to each other through jump cuts

Parallax scrolling for several seconds while 0 animation is happening in the scene

Jump cuts ALL over the place

inconsistent frame advancement

a guy gets knocked off a bike and looks like he's comfortably rolling over in place

Your opinion on this subject is retarded. But hey, the aftereffects in those are pretty nice at least.

A parry based RPG is indeed a retarded idea that only a frog could come with

gonna guess the leeks showing Anon Babble jannies were literal crunchy employees allowing gooky goyslop shilling while attacking jp media only made them double down to get their spam on Anon Babble too lmao

you forgot that they all look asian and it's cringe. Your opinion on this subject is retarded. But hey, at least america had something to show during the 80s

we

only you are sperging out about the fact that tales of are action rpgs.

Dark Souls 3 then. You end the Age of Fire and usher in the Age of Dark. Everything humanity knew, the warmth of civilization and the favor of old gods disappears. Life, time, and everything the fire once provided disappears from the world. Nothing is certain anymore, and all that remains is the dark and flickering embers, lost in the shade.

I'm happy for Japan's success in the arts and that you've been able to enjoy it. But if you just worship it then you're going to end up defending alot of glaring faults it has without realizing it. Obviously western art has become such an abject embarrassment that it's hardly worth defending it at all, but it did have its time.

Nah in this particular case it's likely just the usual jewbisoft guerilla jeets.

Eurojank >>>> Japshit >>>>>> Amerislop
Simple 'as

look up the year the xbox360 launched.
this was obviously all orchestrated to push the american videogame industry.
suddenly all japanese games were just oh so outdated and cringe and not as great as gay sex simulator WRPGs and ugly brown and bloom shooters.
the push for it was extremely blatant. and of course you are right. when you went into a gamestop you'd see all western AAA titles drop in price instantly, but JRPGs actually kept their value pretty well.

No shit, hell here's one for you. Every single time someone says Japan can't understand subtlety, in the same breath they'll say they didn't understand a simple concept if you were PAYING ATTENTION because it wasn't spelled out for them.
Perfect case in point. Shield Hero

Naofumi's book mentions 4 heroes

The town worships the church of THREE heroes

HURR WHY DO THEY HATE SHIELD HERO? ME NEED TO BE TOLD DIRECTLY! BAD WRITING! BAD WRITING!

It's apparently too much to ask them to NOT speed watch everything at 2x speed while scrolling tiktok

posts game by unabashed westaboo

sure showed me, but you've forgotten about the super special Londor ending where you reign over a new age for humanity, even if you buy that the Dark ending is as bad as Gwyn thought it would be

they're not teenagers so the game is good

Why are white people so obsessed with the age of fictional characters?

Between like 2006 and I'd say 2012 or so it was basically IMPOSSIBLE to find JRPGs in retailers.

This is so blatantly wrong it's not even funny.

that's the Watsonian reason, the actual Doylist reason is that the isekai hero needs to be mistreated and thrown into the dirt so he can get his revenge on the schoolyard bullies who were big mean to him.
Altogether juvenile isekai shit at its finest.

It's truly fucking retarded. They want to "feel" older I guess because the truth is they feel immature playing a game with younger characters. It's more of a front for their actual immaturity because adults that have their shit together don't actually give a shit about that.

super special Londor ending where you reign over a new age for humanity

Yeah, the ending where you ritualistically sacrifice your husband/wife by stabbing him/her in the face, backstabbing the Firekeeper and stomping on her corpse, and becoming every bit of a tyrant as Gwyn. The point is that JRPGs do the gay villain route that E33 did, or whatever.

Every single time someone says Japan can't understand subtlety, in the same breath they'll say they didn't understand a simple concept if you were PAYING ATTENTION because it wasn't spelled out for them.

People also misunderstand shit that's straight up told and explicitly explained word for word to them like with Frieren demons and Kanji and Naoto's situation.

you don't have to get so graunlar about it, on a large scale westoids just don't understand basic media comprehension and seem to get their opinions from kike jewtubers

muh bikini armor

muh all jrpgs are about killing god

muh all isekai is about a fatso neet getting truck'd into a DQ world by a goddess

muh all VNs are just dating simulators

once you start noticing you realize basically all antijapan memes are just outright lies, most of which are discarded when they can't blatantly push them anymore like "literally all anime is about schoolgirls getting tentacle raped" which got dropped around the early 10s

why are there game jornos who hate games?
i mean sure I have genres I don't like but this nigga despises jrpgs, what, all of them?
I bet they are a japan hater type who gets triggered by anime but played mega drive games inspired by anime without knowing it.

im getting pretty tired of the same people calling every platformer a metroidvania too thats a specific TYPE of platformer, and not every action RPG is a souls-like either. (you have to lose XP on death)

in summary I think the methane pockets in the ocean burst because people are becoming extra retarded lately.

please wait 120 seconds for no reason

great israeli honeypot you got here.

westoids are literal manchildren that never really grow up

But it is though, the only people who say Dark Souls isn't a JRPG are just xenophobes who hate Japanese people.

im getting pretty tired of the same people calling every platformer a metroidvania

Very ironic.

the game based blatantly on Western Dying Earth fiction features Western storytelling

hmmm

Hey retard, I didn't say you should like it out of principle or at all. I said it outperformed your sacred budget-made anime and gave you a detailed rundown of why your examples were not the transcendent example of western obsolescence that you thought they were, and you're going to be coping with that fact for the rest of this thread.

Stereotypes and memes which are just westoids projecting mind you, like how they call anything anime for pedos yet the kid diddlers always turn out to be the anime haters.
To this day the only examples of bikini armor from JP media I can think of that people can bring up are DQ but westoid RPGs are basically just WEGs and have been since forever with shit like conan.
The only example of killing god is like 2 SMT games in the japan side while westoids constantly have you fighting either creator deities or whoever controls the simulated universe.
There's no examples of that isekai outside of parodies, and even in parodies it's not a 1:1 match yet the godforsaken westoid isekai market is literally nothing BUT that.
The closest ones are the VN comparison but dating sims are a rather small market compared to Anon Babble war writing schizophrenia, meanwhile westoids have their WRPG WEGs being literal dating sims with extra steps.

From the onset of its announcement I knew it was going to be a trojan horse game for western journos to get baco to G4 era of Jap-bashing because these bottomfeeders cant help themselves. Itd an incredibly astroturfed game, no it doesnt matter if the devs love 90s-00s era JRPGs and and based their game off those, its going to be spun by journos as a sort of gotcha

The only example of killing god is like 2 SMT games

LOL

Macron praised the game

I will now never buy your game.

play WRPG

want to tell someone to go fuck themselves

I can

play JRPG

want to tell someone to fuck off

can't

Let's settle this once and for all, Anon Babble. Expedition 33 or Astlibra?

If you want to go even deeper.
Remember when they started FINALLY admitting a Japanese game DID inspire them all but that that game was the western approved Resident Evil 4?
What if I were to tell you that while it WAS a Japanese game that inspired them it was a few age ratings LOWER than RE4?
Because it was. Where was the copious hand holding in the original RE4? Constant chatter telling you what to do the MOMENT you reach it? Everything having homing properties?
Where was that in RE4?
Now for the real shock. GUESS WHICH FUCKING GAME SERIES THE WEST LOVES TO SHIT ON RELENTLESSLY AND REFUSES TO ACKNOWLEDGE POSITIVELY.
The game that inspired the entire western AAA industry in terms of gameplay was pic-related.
They will NEVER admit it but compare the two and you'll see the truth. The influence and inspiration of modern AAA gameplay that brags about how mature it is, is a game made for young children.

Sorry GTA got delayed on you again.

The real comedy is them bragging about a mere million sales.
Assuming they are even proper sales and they aren't using the same cope asscreed did with "players".

outperformed

it's cool that you finally show your true rabbi face but financials isn't animation

The game that inspired the entire western AAA industry in terms of gameplay was pic-related.

It shames me to say I have no clue what are you talking about.
Is it a zelda game?

a million for a debut title and a playerbase that outshines FF7R and Metaphor
you forgot that bit, gook

Jrpg is a genre now with certain aesthetic / characteristics, not a demographic thing. And Clair Obscur is the best one I've had the honor to play since FFX so shut up.

I'm too sleepy to make it but there's some arguments about Capcom games barely being japanese if at all, the origin of the company sometimes is irrelevant.
Resident Evil and Devil May Cry games didn't even have a Japanese dub until the ps4 games, and I'd have never guessed japs made those games. They're western action games as much as Call of Duty, so the opposite can happen and western games can be Jrpg or any other Japanese relates term, I think Doki Doki Literature Club and Katawa Shoujo or whatever the VN with the disabled girls are also western but they're anime games by all intents and purposes.

a mere million sales

for a small unknown indie studio with a completely new IP

lol

Bringing up Jews and the Simpsons out of nowhere

Cope better.

a million for a debut title

while being backed up by the taxpayer money of multiple kike gubmints and astroturfed by literal hordes of jeets
a mere million is comically pathetic
you still haven't addressed the fact the recent DQ demake sold 2 million in 2 weeks despite the boycotts btw

you faggots are so mad people don't like otaku tropes up the ass and would gladly play a game that tones it down

It's even more despicable because the devs talk nonstop about JRPGs in their interviews. The director in particular goes on and on about Legend of Dragoon and Suikoden, he's not some faggot poser.

Thought I attached the image. And no. Zelda isn't kind enough to fit western handholding.

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Jrpg is a genre now with certain aesthetic / characteristics

People call FFXVI a JRPG even though it plays like DMC5 with MMO cool down abilities

>for a small unknown indie studio with a completely new IP

they are the remnants of jewbisoft bro

That's literally Final fantasy X and it was the best one, it keeps things fresh. Unless you're a Dragon Quest fan, now that's a boring combat system

It's not like it has any of the good parts of a Japanese game though. If anything, they're trying to subvert people's idea of a jrpg rather than improve on it.

They want to disassociate Dark Souls from Japan because they subtly want to claim credit for Dark Souls. To pretend it's a Western-made game instead of Japanese. The simple fact is Western developers are shit at computer game mechanics, at the technical nuts & bolts of action games. No Western developer would've made Dark Souls because the gameplay is too skill-demanding. It demands you play well, understanding i-frames and how to leverage those "nya nya you can't touch me i'm immune" seconds. Western devs are chubby nerds with shitty reflexes...they'd never make Dark Souls. They'd make a game where you press a button, and something awesome happens! Or a game where the engine rolls dice to quantify whether you hit or not.

backed up by the taxpayer money of multiple kike gubmints

source, and even if it was what's your point? Are you upset a government would actually subsidize something decent?

astroturfed by literal hordes of jeets

Enjoying a game? Must be a jeet.
Considering anime/manga is primarily enjoyed by third worlders now I'd watch what you say.

Clair Obscur is good because it doesn't have LGBT shit in it and janky dogshit combat like in most WRPGs, tranny, it's good because it took influence from Japanese games.

Literally only 3 of the devs worked for Ubisoft and none of them had any major positions there. Journalists have been peddling this lie to make it sound like it's impossible for new talent to outshine entrenched developers.

Oh god was it really a sonic game?

It's a weird case, I did think about it. Square Enix TRIED to make it a normal western game, but they simply can't take the anime out of their veins lmao I think they're on record saying that this wasn't supposed to be another jrpg, that they were aiming for the West.
They did it well enough to alienate the usual fanbase, but normalfags still easily identify it as another anime game. There's just something in the writing and characters.

even though it plays like DMC5 with MMO cool down abilities

it looks the part too, the MC is literally just dante if he was an emo and painted his hair black
even DMC proper looks more like FF than the actual FFXVI, especially DMC4

Good parts like what? What is E33 so lacking in according to your sage wisdom?

You're falling for Kotaku misinformation. The majority of the studio has never worked on a video game before.

Oh that's a good point in my favor, yes. WHO THE FUCK WOULD CALL DARK SOULS A JRPG? Yeah it's made in Japan but it's considered just an rpg or arpg, no one would put a Japanese label on it, with Elden Ring going as far as bringing GRR Martin as a writer.

Exactly. The devs made a good game but it's now being used to push anti-Japan sentiment. It's sad. Same with some of the chinese and korean games. They aren't BAD by any means but the anti-Japan spam just leaves a bad taste in your mouth.

bioware tried this same anti-japanese shit over a decade ago. It's not new and jrpgs are still good

The article is totally right and only weebs are going to seethe. Most recent JRPGs cater to the shounen crowd. There's not a single recent JRPG aimed at 30yo adults. It's not that Japan can't do it, it's that they don't. Now you can argue that the Souls games are these games, maybe, but why not do it with the turn-based ones then? Expedition 33 filled a gap.

FromSoft's most popular game of all time brought in an acclaimed Western dark fantasy author for the lore

how come they didn't get a Japanese author? Curious.

it's pretty fucking absurd dark souls raped the entirety of the westoid vidya industry hard enough to the point they all are happily taking the souls slop dildo up the ass despite DS itself being a janky low effort action game that didn't even have a jump button
it really shows standards for westoids were so fucking low even back then to allow that to happen

Non stop chatter and hand holding guidance

WOW LOOK AT ALL THOSE EGGMAN ROBOTS

Leave them to me Sonic

To go forwards we should use the Triangle Dive

Hey Sonic, Switch to Flight formation so we can see what's up there.

Endless guidance

Ring trails and the constant chatter

Attacks all have homing properties

Homing Attack, Thunder Shoot and Fire Dunk all have homing properties

Where was any of this DURING GAMEPLAY in RE4?

No, its good by its own merit, its a turn based RPG built on solid foundations but journos with agenda and ignorant players will say its a JRPG, it isnt. Its a slippery slope that will lead to people being comfortable saying JRPGs <shouldnt> have teenagers and kids as main characters when theres a healthy dose of JRPGs that do have adult characters and dark themes

Assuming they are even proper sales and they aren't using the same cope asscreed did with "players".

they included shipped to stores copies in "sold" so...

There's just something in the writing and characters.

It's quite literally just their kike brainwashing.
The success of glorified dating simulators like persona and basically any shounenslop prove the goyim will happily consoom JP media and rightfully praise it as the best thing ever if the (((journos))) ever accidentally forget to tell them it's japanese.

Expedition 33 feels like the only AAA rpg we've had since square Enix dropped out of the race with 13 and stopped doing turn based.
I always wondered how would it be to have an ultra realistic, all-out rpg game putting everything on the line. Clair is exactly that. And no I didn't like Baldurs Gate 3, it was too weird both in text/story and gameplay, didn't fill any voids for someone who liked the old final fantasy games and other rpgs.

Hopefully we'll start getting more of these. Like fuck, why couldn't dragon ball or Digimon release tomorrow a turn based game this good?

zoomers should stick to fortnite tbqh

Why the fuck are journos so racist?

Even E33 is inspired by Dark Souls, it has Bonfires, Estus Flasks and the level design is more like Demon's Souls and DS1 rather than FFX or XIII.

They tried it twice, once around the mass effect trilogy (despite the game being a WEG with all the "tropes" that (((journos))) lied that JRPGs had) and once more relatively recently with their LE RETURN TO FORM shilling.

the real number is less than a million

holy fucking shit frogkikes are fucking pathetic

They are quite literally exclusively funded by literal kike companies at this point, especially after the USAID fund cuts.
Yes the westoid gubmint is just a kike organization but that ruins my joke.

you can feel the SEAnigger seethe from this entire thread. It happened when BG3 released, it happened when Helldivers 2 got popular and it happened with E33. European supremacy always makes them insecure.

Because they hate that the west isn't number one in certain categories.
Notice how they've become more aggressive towards anime and anime "tropes" now that western animation is in the gutter. When it was Disney and other higher quality western animations there was no real mention of it. They hated it but it wasn't as visceral. Now that western animation is gutter filth that's so looked down on they need to call their slop "anime" the seethe as grown exponentially.

You know how anime is dynamic and aesthetic and has slice of life appeal? The drab hipster game in question has none of that. Western media is all about aristocratic lectures and embracing lowered expectations.

with all the "tropes" that (((journos))) lied that JRPGs had

I must've forgotten about Shepard being a high-school aged naive retard

just ignore the ~1 million copies sold on steam alone

This game was made a tribute to old school JRPGs and for this journo to discard that because you don't like JRPGs is fucking retarded.

I have seen nothing about this game except that it seems to be made by westerners who are embarrassed by JRPGs for westerners who hate JRPGs and lusting after a 16 year old. I'm guessing there's nothing here for me if I don't fall into one of these groups.

High school aged no, but naive retard? Absolutely.
The entire plot is just a glorified POWER OF FRIENDSHIP tour to boot until the ice cream flavor ending.

Remove the high-school aged part and it's an accurate description

Sounds about right.
It having timed hits alone instead of being turn based proper would already filter anyone with a brain, the fact the actual combat system has less depth than literal stock RPG maker just drives the point home.

oh so you're just going to spout blatant lies since you didn't play the game. Its oozing with culture given that it's directly inspired by France's cultural zenith, you retard.

muh slice of life appeal

christ, you're hopeless.

and we're supposed to like someone just because their skin color is blue?

Marketing. Westerners wouldn't recognize any japanese writer's name.
In the end, they just took what GRRM wrote and basically wiped their asses with it to make up whatever From-esque bullshit lore they've been doing for years. You can't even tell what he contributed with.

you mean 500k estimated copies?

i think what ultimately hurt jrpgs was final fantasy shitting the bed as well as compile heart and idea factory shovelware pantsuge trash being so prominent in those years, and that's what westoids ultimately started associating with the genre because that was most of japan's rpg output.

Good, anything westoids write would just drag down the game anyway.

Go ahead and seethe if it helps you cope, faggot. France's cultural "zenith" isn't the topic here and I answered your question point blank.

JRPigs forgot renegade exists

even just two paths are downright unthinkable to you animals, huh?

You're the fucking ape who mentioned aesthetics to begin as as though E33 isn't drowned in it to the point the soundtrack is essentially an 8 hour long French opera

yeah the trilogy ended and all paths have the same ending

"My life reborn in a painting with Op skills" is better than japslop

lmao

No, it's right regardless of route. Or are you just mad we're mocking your gay porn game?

because that was most of japan's rpg output.

Objectively false even if you only count square anon.
Even if you only count localized shit (around 70% of the JRPGs these days are not even getting localized anymore or still take years to arrive to the west) the market is still saturated by nu-2D games like the octopath saga and DQ mainlines and spinoffs.
Westoids also only know the nep trilogy and FF from CH, that's a whooping four games.

I haven't seen a single Jap write anything as good as Book of the New Sun, which was a direct inspiration for Dark Souls

None of those 8 hours will be remembered by anyone lmao. Pretentious nonsense insisted upon by seething faggots like you.

made by westerners who are embarrassed by JRPGs

Wrong. The devs are constantly singing the praises of their influences. It's just the western journalists who hate JRPGs spitting their shitty opinions.

emilia perez and asscreed zesty niggers are enough for me to swear off everything frogs have ever done and will ever make
i don't have to play e33 to know it's astroturfed dogshit

To be fair, the characters are massively better written than in JRPGs. With the Japanese, you always get that weird brand of autism that for some reason, people find endearing (it's not, and once you notice it you see it in all japanese media).

They should come out and tell the (((journos))) they are being racist as fuck then.
The fact they won't is just proof they are complicit and simply claiming "inspirations" with the same sincerity cuckman is trying to claim akira and bebop were inspirations for his new goyslop game.

French are massive weebs

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waaaaaah ur racist

post hand and eyes gook

bro they should scourge every shitty video game website to correct retarded journalist

Wouldn't be hard with those awful lyrics.

then do it
let's see your immaculate taste

"Top" is subjective but it sounds like a similar but less memorable motif to either of the Nier games. I'm not going to abide your "last year" stipulation because it's arbitrary.

They could just make a generic announcement due to how widespread the slander issue is.
You would think someone that genuinely is inspired by something would at least pretend to call them out on twitter over their beloved series and games that inspired them in the first place to create a game.

because it's arbitrary.

because you can't.

More stylised character designs act more like cartoons than realistic ones

No shit

pretend to call them out on twitter over their beloved series and games that inspired them in the first place to create a game.

because they would agree with them. Even Japanese industry greats have raked creators over the coals for appealing to otaku rather than humans.

Westoid journalists are hypocrites who cry whenever someone rightfully points out the terrible behavior of Jeets, niggers and kikes but are as racist as WW2 veterans towards Japanese people.

That's why I feel no pity when these disgusting hypocrites lose their jobs.

If anything, you should be asking me for an older example since the game you're simping for is a direct quip at the past 20+ years of JRPGs, not the most recent ones which this game arguably ripped off.

widespread

Lol, go out and touch some grass.

the cast in JRPGs is... Too young!

Cloud is 21, Tifa is 20, Aerith is 22, Barret is 35

How old are these people?

Ah, my bad, I was referring to the very late 2000s/early 2010s. Back when they spammed a Tales of game a year.

This. The problem isn't that the Japanese can't write. It's that Japanese writers now are incestuous soulless morons taking influence from slop for otaku to make more otaku slop.

It's not a JRPG because it's not Japanese, the japs don't have a monopoly on the concept of turn based RPG

because it doesn't have anime on the cover and isn't tied down by tired old Japanese tropes/whatever passes for humor over there

This is true however

that's fucking shit, anon.

Well uh it isn't about how old they ARE, more about how old they look. Because perception is reality. You can't tell me you look at Cloud and see a 21 year old man, right? He really looks a lot younger than that, and that's cringe for a story that tries to take itself mature and seriously.

I dunno how such weak bait had replies.

see I have no problem with the great JRPGs of the past. I have a problem with the current crop of otaku-pandering faggoty Japs.

Japanese writers now are incestuous soulless morons taking influence from slop for otaku to make more otaku slop.

Why didn't you listen?

I agree, those dirty Japs should put more trannies and blacks in their filth if they want to appeal to the west.

You didn't even listen to it. The beat drop is fucking GOAT.

it's really not you fucking retard

complete garbage

You can't tell me you look at Cloud and see a 21 year old man

Yes? Yes I do. He's an anime character, he looks like an anime 21 year old.

Explain to me in one sentence what everyone is so mad about in this thread.

are we going to pretend the biggest JRPG release of last year didn't have the gayest most milquetoast liberal plot ever?

calls it "weak bait"

has no refutation for either argument presented in the post

Here, let me fix your post for you:
"Good points, and well made. I concede."

Nuke Japan gang is beefing with Nuke Europe gang

a jrpg made by the french is goty

Gooks are upset that Europeans are still better than them despite all the gacha slut shilling they've been doing on Anon Babble.

It all makes sense now

and that's cringe for a story that tries to take itself mature and seriously.

It's not in the context of the story, it actually majes a lot of sense for him to be 21, Cloud was only out of SOLDIER a few months before FF7 begins, most men are conscripted in the military around 18/19 then leave in their early 20s, fucking dumbass.

Most gacha games are made by chinks and gooks now, you can't even get your Asian ethnicities right Shlomo

That's understandable. I have my own issues with authoritative western media that utterly ruins itself with uncultured propaganda year after year, then cranks up the opera effects when it wants to attack the country that gave us something worth playing for all those decades we couldn't get it at home.

Zelda has also been called an RPG by some morons despite it being very clearly an action adventure game. You will always come across people making the most outlandish claims and using them to argue for something is stupid. There's a reason people use the phrase "with RPG elements" for games like Nier.

Western media

your first mistake was thinking America and Europe are forever on the same page.

Metaphor had no LGBT shit in it, that's enough to make you kikes seethe with rage.

please accept the (((special))) and (((oppressed))) Elda, goyim

Sure anon. Whatever makes you feel better.

bigotry of ubisoft revived under another french game

Oh really? Was that my first mistake? Sure whatever.

Question, where did the Frenchies say this is a JRPG OP and other faggots arguing about "is it a JRPG or not"
Not the news shitters. Those lesser beings don't matter.
Where did the DEVS say it's a JRPG?

Who was that deviantart fetish game for then? It sure wasn't for heterosexual human beings.

Expedition 33 is as much a JRPG as Onirism is an influential 3rd person shooter.

People like this never liked JRPGs because they are too preoccupied with how they would look if they were ever caught playing one. Pitiable.

Fucks up Japanese games by censoring them, removing fanservice, killing translations

Westoids are continuously racist toward them, harboring an inferior complex against superior JAPANESE creation, beloved WORLDWIDE.

Are literally trying to claim J(read: Japanese)RPGS can step outside of Japanese hands, and Japanese ethos

Forever the shitters

Still lose to Japan and a random Japanese guy drawing cute girls in his basement

When will they ever learn?
Will you stop your hijacking now?

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Truth hurts.

Persona is DOOMED

If Persona and E33 were to void each other out of existence it would be a win-win.

That doesn't my question
WHERE
DID THE FRENCHIES
CLAIM IT'S A JRPG?

Except the Elda did get burnt to the ground though, theres no kike parallels in it apart from the fact that it never happened to kikes

Only if youre fucking gay, or are you one of those tasteless retards going for Hulkenburg, then Im sorry you just have garbage taste

Japanese people call their Rpg's Rpg's.
They call comics manga.
They call Family Guy anime.
We in the west are the ones that added the J to Rpg and created a distinction between manga and comics and cartoons and anime. To Japanese people this does not even make any sense.

if you take away those stupid japanese people and japanese settings then i will enjoy it

it always turns out to be anti-japanese racism with liberals

Alright I'll bite, what's annoying about the E33 cast?

It does actually. You can see Japs reviewing E33 saying if you like JRPGs you'd like it

I don't see the problem, it's normal to add a distinction when it's different. Bande-dessinée is not comics for example.

33

freemason devil worshipping garbage

People see it being like old Final Fantasies in some way so they instinctively know it's JRPG, because Final Fantasy itself is JRPG. Although "some niggas in a row" might be better genre description for the genre.

I don't get why people are making this a France VS Japan thing when the devs are massive weeaboos and the game is a love letter and an homage to the JRPG genre. I don't think the devs intended to "show Japan how it's done" at any point.

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So in that case it's all just RPGs, animation and comics, categorically
But conversely, those made in Japan have distinction of a different culture which impacts everything from gameplay, artstyle, humour and sensibilities, and several other things.
So something made not in Japan can't possibly be categorized as being FROM Japan, which is what the, perhaps incorrect, terms of JRPG (and anime and manga) was created for.

They're not even trying to hide the fact that they're just anti-Japan.

Its not, if you pay attention its about the disengenious journalists that do make it anti jap

Games can be made in the style of Japanese RPGs and not come from Japan. How is that so hard for you idiots to understand?

It's almost as if there's no consistent style to a "jrpg". Take games like Disgaea, Shadow Hearts, Elden Ring or Paper Mario for instance. They're all Jrpgs but all wildly different from each other.

It's not just any rpg that's made in Japan. That's ridiculous.

Yes, yes it is. It wouldn't make sense otherwise.

journoloids act like subhumans.
shiteaters defend them.

No one is mad but rather annoyed at the fact that they like jrpgs but won't admit it.

Western Devs (Not the Frogs) and Journalists all have a chip on their shoulder about the Japanese and never miss a beat to spin a story as the west shitting on Japan.

If this game is a FOTM does that mean we need to wait a whole month for Rebirth schizos to stop malding about it?

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he's former military, retard.

l-leave Japan alone, baka racist gaijin!

SE drones will not stop seething anytime soon as there are many more Ls to be gathered by them.

If a Japanese director of Square Enix can decide that a Japanese RPG isn't a JRPG because it's a racist term, then a white man can decide that a traditionally Western-made RPG is a JRPG

I fear you may be right

JRPGs, esp. 4niar JRPGs, should be focused on middle aged people such as myself. Both this and the Yakuza/LAD JRPGs have shown me that they are infinitely more entertaining with a cast of middle aged people. I want a Final Fantasy where a failed, drunkard knight has to stop the big bad because the teen hero party gets slaughtered, and his crew has people like "musclefat blacksmith woman" and "wizened greying magic scholar", people with otherwise normal jobs that synergize with you well enough to be recruitable. I want to hear about the daily trivia they've had to deal with through their decades of normal work in this fantastical setting. I want them to cut off bosses mid-monologue out of tedium and your rogue to just stab one of them in the dick to avoid having to fight. There is so much more potential in shenanigans and hijinks when everyone is world weary.

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Weebs seething that non-deranged people don't like their 13 years old blue-haired girl in schoolgirl uniform piloting giant mechs squealing the name of their attack for 30 seconds while doing 10 backflips

Delicious

Which Cloud?
Because I very much pictured Cloud as a 21 year old back in the day as he should.
Even the remake Cloud looks his age, he's just also a pretty boy.

JRPG is not even a japanese concept

he avoided making a jrpg by making mediocre action slop

The problem isn't that the Japanese can't write.

"Alright, we need a commander for the villain army of technozombie vampire bad guys!"

Guy in the corner of the meeting room snaps fingers

"Of course! A sassy nazi catboy of questionable age!"

That's when I cut all ties with anime shit. How weebs fail to see what people dislike in most anime is beyond me

"B-But it makes sense in the plot!"

Get a life

SMT III Nocturne's True Demon Ending (basically the canon ending since it's the one referenced in every post Nocturne game)

Kill anyone who could've held a reason, preventing the Conception from ending

Kill Kagutsuchi dooming the world to forever remain as the Vortex World

Join Lucifer's army and prepare to fight the Great Will

missed out on some kino

you must be really fun at partys

Based SPBP, it's why Metaphor is better than SMT5 and Persona, because they attempted to move away from that shit.

It's funny how the game has similar issues that FFXIII got eviscerated for back in the day, namely being linear as fuck and not having real towns. But it doesn't matter, we have to celebrate this game as the second coming because it can be used as another bludgeoning tool against Japan. Every single western project """homaging""" Japan ends up like this.

another seething ff fag types a sulkpost through angry tears

This has been a very amusing 2 weeks

no towns

DROPPED

Xenoblade. FF VII R. Mana. SMT.

E33 and FFXIII are both shit

Correct. Thank you for saying so, anon.

It has towns and is not linear.

everyone i've seen shilling this as a great jrpg is someone i know for a fact never played an jrpg before

Like, niggers how NPC can you get you are just repeating the marketing taglines

You're right if it isn't about children it isn't a jrpg.

it has ugly realistic looking characters, so that makes it mature and media literate.

JRPGs are bad, because, ummmmmm.....*flips through notes*.....teenagers!

Why are these people so dishonest?

The terms "JRPG" and "WRPG" are fucking stupid and were ill defined (barely defined at all) from the get go.
It was initially coined by biased reviewers who just wanted to shill bioware and obsidian stuff, while throwing the competition into an easily dismissible box they branded "JRPG".
It's a relatively new term too. The RPG lingo prior to JRPG and WRPG was much more descriptive and on point.

the subhumans eating this slop up don't even care about RPGs, they are only in it to virtue signal as they always do

Find a new gimmick.

parryslop is only good when it's not ue5 and it's made by FromSlop

Why are normies so shallow and insecure about only playing “mature” games?

and were ill defined (barely defined at all) from the get go.

Oh no, not at all. They had very solid definitions from the start
RPG from Japan
RPG from the West
That's it, they weren't considered a genre until very recently. Also Japan used the term western rpg well before the term Japanese rpg but it was never used in a derogatory way like jrpg was.

Nope, it's never been about design philosophies. It's entirely about where the game was made. JRPGs are way more diverse in their execution than tabloids would like you believe. The term is more arbitrary than what people think.

journos and normies only consoom "mature looking" videogames regardless of the plot/story/themes. if you made a jrpg about teletubies but with characters looking like they were the cast of the Last of Us it'd be unironically worshipped to death by them fags

They ironically never matured themselves. Acting insecure about your own maturity and trying your hardest to convince everyone you are mature is exactly what almost-of-age teenagers do.

Solo Leveling is exclusively watched by third-worlders and this is a fact, it's why the publisher sperged out and went after a bunch of streaming sites that hosted it and retardedly targeted tachiyomi. Despite its somehow exclaimed large audience they make zero money on it because it only appeals to browns who've never paid to see it or buy any of it's merchandise, which honestly is based because it's shit.

This reads like a pedophile in denial trying hard too hard to overcorrect

man how come Lost Odyssey had to flop, if that came out today it would have done extremely well.

They hate you because you told them the truth.

I dropped BG3 because I found it slow and boring yet loving E33 so far.

the game that is literally made to be a love letter to classic JRPGs is for people who hate JRPGs

I love how fucking retarded everyone who tries to shit on this game is. You basically just prove that the game is something special

Hopefully Yoshida is the only japanoid stupid enough to get swayed by this because I for one don't want to see JRPGs enter a dark age where they all try to ape this slop lest the Western journo writes a negative piece about them.

nope. Still doomed to fail if it would still be Microsoft exclusive.

It is, in the most literal sense, not a JRPG.

If it came out today it woulf fail all the same. It's made by nips so journos wouldn't turbo shill it.

westoids will unironically consoom juvenile slop like the walking dead and then sneer at anime.

You basically just prove that the game is something special

In 6 months nobody will remember this fotm

lmao cope

Yeah yeah. Remember Sea of Stars? THE turboshilled by journos Chrono Trigger replacement that proved that westerners are just better? Me neither

It's because one looks realistic with real actors and the other one is animated, meaning, a cartoon

The fact that you even think the situations are comparable just shows how hilariously out of touch all you retard Discord trannies are.

The devs openly admit their inspiration to the point they're telling people to buy 100 line Defense after on Twitter.

Again, see you in 6 months when the normies have moved on to whatever it is journos tell them they should care about next

having timed hits instead of being turn based proper

This. Honestly baffling how low you need to sink to sell a """jrpg""" to zoomers and people who hate the genre.

There's nothing shameful in admitting the Japanese are a stagnant ouroboros culture regurgitating uninspired otaku garbage, and you're supposed to outgrow embarrassing anime writing tropes as an adult.
It has nothing to do with this game, it's just a fact many are uncomfortable with.

If that's what you really think why are you on Anon Babble?
Why would you even post here when it's surrounded by stuff you hate?

Forgot to say I am trans.

I don't give a shit Davidkun. Still calling it a jrpg.

Why do discord bait threads keep getting retards to reply? It's so very transparent and shit like this is a strong case for why we need IDs.

The stuff I hate need to discard its soul and identity and morph itself into something I personally approve so that I feel less insecure about my own tastes.

Not every game released is Japanese, I don't have to agree with your opinion to follow my interests

Why can't these people just go to an anime convention and have sex with a cosplay broad? You will be shocked at how easy it can be.

Stereotyping is bad

gaming journos when game is JRPG

its also retarded because its based on a cartoon but when you hire actors to make it infinitely less appealing aesthetically its suddenly perfectly acceptable.

if jrpg is bad then how comes we don't get a(merican)rpg to oveshadow that genre?

inb4 le Balding's Gay 3

that's e(urotrash)rpg

I hate to admit that I agree with that journo only for the fact that "teen MCs" and their boring ass dramas are the reason I never managed to play any Persona games. I've played other jrpg tho, currently playing BoF4

WRPGs have had their ups and downs. Remember that KOTOR, despite being a pretty shallow duology as WRPGs go, did the equivalent for normalfags what COE33 is doing for JRPGs for them right now, because it took what normals perceived as a difficult to penetrate genre with obtuse and complex mechanics/janky settings and made it something they could be fooled into caring about. Suddenly, it was cool because instead of generic fantasy/sci fi shit, it was Star Wars, and that made it acceptable to like, buy, and play.
KOTOR didn't change the face of WRPGs, and WRPGs weren't even hurting before or afterwards. All it did was have its little flash in the pan before dying ungraciously.

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Soule's soundtrack in KOTOR1 was hilariously out of place sometime, but it had its moments I guess. Mark Griskey did a much better job with music in KOTOR2.

damn, I forgot about that one I won't lie...

got em, case closed.

holy FUCKING trvth nvke. this needs to be stickied. literally the best post and most truthful post on Anon Babble right now. weebs literally cannot see how infantile and embarrassing their shit looks to everyone else.

Lol.

nice samefagging.

high quality Netflix series

kek, it's like saying "5 michellin star gourmet diarrhea shit"

cope

this lol, if i see school uniforms, it's an instant and irrevocable hard pass, which eliminates fully 80% of japanese media.

high quality "cope" argument

poetry at its' finest!

There should be MC's like that because it's part of the scene, it's what draws young people to anime. But at the same time, yeah... I completely ignore anime/manga with only teen main characters.

anon is so shaken by the truth that he is hallucinating and imagining that anyone who agrees with me is me samefagging

And for the record, Stranger Things is a great show and you only hate THAT because normals loved it, too. Sorry to hear that your friends don't want to watch Sailor Moon and Pretty Cure with you and how they don't understand "the artistic merits" or whatever of those shows, but as for the rest of us, well, we have real quality programming to watch.

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JRPG is not an abbreviation

i'd use a screenshot to prove you wrong but we both know you're in full blown coping denial mode and will start screeching INSPECT ELEMENT, so i'm just going to laugh at you impotently kicking and screaming instead. this is good - it's the first step towards returning to heterosexuality. just keep rereading over and over again until you understand why you never get laid.

Agreed. What is it with the Japanese and their obsession with high school specifically? Have they accepted in their society that your life ends when you enter wage slavery?

basically, yeah

WRPGs arent even particularly complex mechanically most of the time.
they just have really terrible UIs and feedback very often.

Stranger Things

only the first season was good imo but yeah, keep consooming that shit till those kids end up 90 years old, milking you dry.

Sailor Moon and Pretty Cure

never said I watch anime but really? high quality Netflix?

we have real quality programming to watch.

yeah, just like the real quality threads on Anon Babble you waste time on. how delusional.

so i'm just going to laugh at you impotently kicking and screaming instead

"said dumbledore with a calm voice"
dunno my nigga, you are the one who started malding and seething like that projecting about a hypothetical virginity out of nowhere.

defending stranger things

Man, this board needs IDs so bad, I need to filter low IQ brown amerimutt subhumans like you

hypothetical virginity

POST YOUR FORESKIN THEN!

I agree

You want see his dick?
Faggot

the game that combines a bunch of universally beloved but often neglected elements (visible enemies that can be engaged or avoided, FFX's battle queue, a fucking world map) from acclaimed JRPGs and neatly bundles them in a way that can only be appreciated by someone familiar with and fond of the genre

"everyone talking about this game hates heckin JRPGs!"

Christ, it's like talking to BG3 haters all over again. Just play the fucking game, dipshit. You don't have to be ignorant. Form your own opinion.

hey don't be a bigot, you can't be a fuctional adult if you assume genders just like that

playing as a bunch of spunky high schoolers exchanging stilted dialogue and saving the world with the power of friendship and loyalty gets much less appealing when you're pushing 40

Clair Obscur is literally the first RPG in decades that actually treats the average, everyman player with a shred of respect by dropping the anime shit, deleting the Japanese cringe "humor", and giving them something that looks more like a high quality Netflix series

Pretty sure FFXVI did this.

Glorious nippon can do no wrong, friend. You're on the wrong board.

Pretty sure FFXVI did this.

FFXVI is a wannabe character-action game with a thin veneer of RPG on top (because it has to - it's Final Fantasy) and succeeds at being neither because it pussyfooted around on both sides too hard instead of picking one side and going all in.
Since SquareEnix actively refuse to make a proper turn-based JRPG version of Final Fantasy in that classic style from the 90s and 2000s, others are finally taking up that mantle and demonstrating how easy it is.

‘Y teenagers’ is a dogwhistle. When movies and games ditch teenagers they turn to shit whedon-esque MCU shit for the funko pop collecting 40 year olds. Teenage characters are how you keep appealing to actual young people

Pretty sure FFXVI did this.

yea, who could look at pic related and think anime?
except for everyone with eyes

thin veneer of RPG on top

That also applies to Clair Obscur.

This, they may be generic and uninspired, but teenagers are generic and uninspired individuals. Write what you see, not what you desire.

That's what drew me into SMT: Strange Journey.

Redditor doesn't even know how an anime looks like

i-it's not anime!! it's animation from japan!!

okay lmao, keep splitting hairs on definitions and keep losing in sales idk what to tell you

They should stop the hype train around their game and draw some negative attention by feeding into the "drama" and publicly defending people who don't even give a fuck!

There's a 99% chance the devs aren't terminally online losers scouring niche grifter websites for mudslinging articles that make them feel personally attacked or validated. Stop getting offended on other people's behalf and touch grass.

implying weebs socialize

this but unironically

RPG from Japan

RPG from the West

That's it

II mean. That's what it logically should be. But people have disagreed on that those definitions since the very start. Which was kind of my point.

Also Japan used the term western rpg well before the term Japanese rpg but it was never used in a derogatory way like jrpg was

Well. When they said it they actually meant RGPs from the west. But both you and I know that tons of people in the west using these terms mean a bunch of other different things than what it should logically imply from the actual names.

i've been enjoying jrpgs since the snes and i loved clair obscur, stay mad Anon Babbleaggot

final fantasy 4 and 5 are the best
fuck ff6 and ff7 fags

Isn't one of the most popular characters a cute red haired ToT?

proceeds to watch arcane, dmc, and castlevania netflix animes and make generals every single day

lol

based

a high quality Netflix series

hmmm yes, I too enjoyed high quality Anon Babbleideogame adaptations like Castlevania, I unironically litteraly shed a tear when Alucard, the protagonist of the fan favourite and critically acclaimed Castlevania game, "symphony of the night" gets buttraped but muttskins.
My roommates were worried when they saw me doing a 50min long standing ovation.
real gourmet shit

Castlevania is still a generic anime, it's not Netflix's fault for not meeting the high criteria to make it better than animeslop

posts 2D concept art rather than how they look in game

this journo is a fuckin retard if his hangup was the age of the protags. Bet this bitch loves zelda.

anime artstyles stops being anime artstyles at high fidelity

this is what weebs actually believe.

Zelda or Zelda (Link)?

The way westerners bite and rewrite anything others create is why i believe a black woman probably did invent the lightbulb

WRPGs and JRPGs are defined that way. There is a lot of variety within those categories but all the games on either side can be easily distinguished because of their style and influences. CRPGs meanwhile is more specific and more like a proper genre of its own.

CRPG

Chinese RolePlaying Games?

so is the game any good?

That 3D render is literally not anime at all. The transition removed the few anime elements of the concept art.

this game is as bad as chink animation and gook comics

I couldn't anti-shill something harder than this if I tried.

I really really like this image.

Posts tranime pic

proceeds with delusional tranime cope

kek

CRPG and WRPG sharing the same umbrella was fine until Dragon Age came out and every WRPG became action slop dating sim.

nah

lmao like i said: keep believing that and keep being wrong. if that's on the cover, it's anime and nobody is buying it but freaks like you.

Xenoblade is not anime?

10000000000000000000000000%
weebs will seethe and piss and shit their pants
but this right here are facts

after years of occult rituals, game 33 is actually good

Dragon Age copied that from Baldur's Gate.

DA:O was a BG copy

Veilguard tried to copy BG3

my sides

That's a 2.5 image which looks like an anime, unlike FFXVI.

Most Xenoblade characters have giant amime eyes.

DAV is safewoke
Vitiligro and non-binary cannot compete with unhinged onscreen bestiality. If you can't meet the bar then you're just performing rainbow capitalism.

Veilguard failed precisely because it wasn't like BG3.

All WRPGs have utter dogshit janky combat, Clair Obscur is the only one I've played where the combat is actually well designed and fun to engage with.

So many people here hate anime and weebs so much yet waste their lives posting on an anime website. Why is that?

WRPGs and JRPGs are defined that way.

Except that people use the terms differently and you know it.
As if you've never heard people claim that games like Dark Souls or Princess Maker or whatever deviates from Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest, aren't JRPGs in spite of being RPGs from Japan.
Likewise. Why do you think people are foolishly calling Expedition33 a JRPG even though it is quite literally a western RPG?
Wizardry was western too and yet it played exactly like games that the same crowds would call JRPGs.

It clearly makes no sense. Never made sense. But you can't deny that the way it's used is not just "rpg from the west" and "rpg from japan".

"thank Christ" -Godless leftie

huh?

they don't want to use Science's name in vain

Imagine trying to lie about Akira and GitS.

Clair Obscur is not a WRPG. France is also now officially part of Africa.

S(outhern)RPG

Hard-Rpg

the genre (french word) is called FRPG until japan produces a viable answer. JRPGs no longer exist until such time. that's just how it is.

Dark Souls is an Action RPG which has always treated differently from JRPGs.

based fuck nips and their obsession with highschool

In awe at the sheer yield of this trvke.

The west won
Japan lost

It's a better JRPG than Japan can make

My honest reaction to this post

JRPG is not a proper genre, it's a cultural tradition that originated from Japanese otaku becoming obsessed with Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy.

high quality Netflix series

Please be bait

holy fucking shit, it's like the worst of both worlds: western pozzing with anime character design.

wrong. FRPG is a cultural tradition that originated from Japanese otaku becoming obsessed with Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy and JRPGs don't exist. but i repeat myself.

Where does the F come in ?

it's an abbreviation of "Fffffnot-J"

Fun

Dude you struck a nerve with that post. Jesus Christ the fanatical autism in this thread.

If the characters don't look like cartoon teenagers it's not for me! MOAR CARTOON KIDSSSSS

It's true, Netflix makes high quality Anon Babbleideogame adaptations

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Using "Netflix Series" as a bar of quality

You got me, here's your (you)

Using "anime" as a bar of quality

SAUCE on this chick?!

Isekai or trannyshit?
Like half of all isekai dump the protagonist into a female body to sell merch

It’s a “Games Journalist” is mildly racist about JRPG’s to drum up clicks episode

No thanks!

Isekai or trannyshit?

what's the difference? is it like wrpg, crpg and jrpg?

I've never heard anyone talk about Solo Leveling outside of the underage Twittertards who call every new season of a popular shounen the peak of fiction.
Get the fuck outta here,

the weebs are seething

all we know is that the french raped japanese studios. i guess sucking californian cocks can't help japan lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Why would I be seething that France made a game inspire by Japanese ones with no faggot or tranny shit?

JRPGs are copies of foundational 1970-90s western vidya RPG series.

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TRVTHNUKE! FFfags, Personakeks and other weebshit jrpg fans on suicide watch! C'est fini

Jrpg

Japanese RPG

This game is made by baguetteniggers and poojeets, stop calling it a jrpg, it's factually not a jrpg

STOP using JRPG - it's racist!

NO WAIT NOT LIKE THAT

so is there a chance for a french pokemon-clone game with legal beautiful girls instead of tranime underage coombaits?

Your gaslighting is pathetic, Shlomo

was gonna ask the same

What goes on in your mind to make you behave this way?

embarrassing

Dark Souls is an Action RPG which has always treated differently from JRPGs.

But why? It's an RPG from Japan. It's a JRPG.

Westoids hate Japanese people so much they try to disassociate Dark Souls, a game they copy endlessly, from it's roots.

doesn't have tranime visuals
grimdark mature setting
mc isn't a teenager
combat isn't 4 niggers in a row
it's not turn-based (debateable in some cases when you need to wait for boss' 10-hit combo attack to resolve before you act)
it's mainstream that means normies like it that means it can't be tranime because it would be bad otherwise

I play all these and Ex33 is my GOTY so you should te suicider dans Minecraft mon ami.

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He uses Sharty lingo, probably still seething that Anon Babble got back up.

Dark Souls is an Action RPG which has always treated differently from JRPGs.

No? Who told you that?
No one has ever considered games like souls, Secret of Mana and KH as something wholly separate from jrpgs just because they're action rpgs.

what is Tales Of

But it's Japanese, if you buy and support From games you inadvertently allow them to make """"""""tranime""""""""" that you kikes hate because you hate anything that promotes beauty.

None of those things are mandatory to be a jrpg.

FF XV, Rebirth, XVI

FF is no tranime I swear!

KEK

seems to be made by westerners who are embarrassed by JRPGs

Quite LITERALLY the devs always talk about how much their team loves JRPGs and the director loves a ton of different weeb games.
Its become fucking stupid how people spread that "the devs hate JRPGs!" Lie when its the complete opposite and if you PLAYED THE FUCKING GAME you'd realize how much they love jap shit.

Clair obscur is inspired by FF Shlomo, why do you ignore that?
It's not inspired by BG3, Troonguard, KCD2 or any other tranny filth thankfully, hopefully more Europeans are inspired by this game and Japanese media.

hopefully more Europeans are inspired by this game

it's made in France so that means African's made it

I'm not that guy and I don't know about the devs, but the "fans" sure are frothing at mouth about jap genres and conventions.
There is a nonzero chance this is a falseflag campaign.

Gamers like JP stuff like women with huge tits and pantyshots so that means that if you like JP stuff then you are automatically a Gamer™ and you should be on a GamerGate 2.0 watchlist

"gaming journalist" has an opinion on genre he never played till he was paid for [sponsored game of the month]

really makes you think