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For those who come after

No

by the game's logic, neither of these characters existed or mattered in the slightest

Play your piano, cuck

He didn't get 10% of the suffering he deserved

Tell me you're american without telling me you're american

Have you considered that French scum just can’t write well?

Have you considered playing the game?

I already did. Which is how I know the French can’t write.

Ok so then you're a retard. Back to my first statement.

Play the piano, Verso. You ain't Gustave.

You wouldn’t say that to my face

Stop huffing paint

Not him, but I would. You sound like a whiny little sissy when I read your posts.

actually he's not a real person so it's not sad at all in hindsight

we couldnt protect him

I’ll knock you out, blud

New entry to the "literally me" genre

Dies

Mes amis...

Many such cases

you beat simon the way it was intended right?

heh, nothing personnel

I admit this was pretty cheeky from the devs, kek.

The look on Gustave’s face when renoir pulls himself off the impalement and he knows its hopeless… gut wrenching.

Roulette

poetry

There is always one guy who replies to any criticism of the story with the same greentexts every thread

Can you beat him in NG+

Whether it was effective or not, Renoir still visibly shat himself as Gustave was coming for him

He probably could have paved the path towards a happy ending if he lived. That is why Verso let him die.

Why would anyone choose the ending where all the villains are happy?

t-they aren't villains, they're just depressed

the group of people who knowingly make sentient beings and then kill countless amounts of them are not evil? Even within the isolated story of the game, Verso and Maelle are consistently hypocritical.

At least Lune, Sciel, and Monoco are good people so why choose the ending where they die by your hand?

But the game already has a happy ending

if gustave made it past act 2 he would have soloed simon

unlocked skill tree

white hair

gustave "el diablo" blanco

They're not real humans, they're lesser beings. Real humans matter more.

Frenchies aren’t human

Cut down on the copium you brat

By the game's logic they're real and all their lives and experiences matter. Painters are flawed gods, but gods nonetheless, who are capable of creating entire universes within their canvases. The world within the canvas continues even without a painter inside it, because they leave a fragment of their soul that continues maintaining the world after they leave it, this is why Verso urged the fragmented boy to stop painting, as that would have been the only way for him to cease the canvas world from within in case Renoir doesn't manage to burn the canvas. In Maelle's ending she takes over painting duties to mold the world to her liking, and that little boy is the fragment of Verso's soul who no longer has to paint.

Play the piano, mon ami

In Maelle's ending she takes over painting duties to mold the world to her liking, and that little boy is the fragment of Verso's soul who no longer has to paint.

Headcanon

Painggers aren't people. Writerchads rise up.

Would you argue you're not real because God could just will the universe into nothingness?

Christcuck uses bad faith argument at the first sign of pushback

Many such cases.

He was a dickhead but he was right in the end.

It's time to stop shitposting, anon.

Gustave was the MC and if he made it to the end would have been able to make a perfect ending happen.

one day

It's open to interpretation who the boy is, it's either Verso's soul who she is doting on as a replacement for her dead brother, Gustave and Sophie's son, or her own son who she had with some unseen guy while living out the full life she said she wanted.

But I LIKE shitposting! I'm not leaving Anon Babble to go back to being a FUCKING wagie, fuck Verso and FUCK reality

The "did nothing wrong" duo.

So the entire game was Maelle's fault then? She is the reason Verso got killed after all.

How will Versocels cope when they announce that the Maelle ending is canon?

Weren't they firebombed or some shit? How was that her fault

It would be incredibly kino.

Renoir seems to be the only one of the surviving family who doesn't resent Alicia for what happened.

Isn't it the same model as the main apprentice who ran away when he learned Gustave died? It could just be him, but if that's the case it's weird that the other two apprentices aren't there.

coincidentally the two with the largest kill counts of the painting untermensch

Gonna be honest, the game feels like Attack on Titan, after the death of Erwin Smith/Gustavé the plots lose all their edge and charismatic character for a character that is a complete liar and is hiding his true intentions.
At least Attack on Titan was hilarious with Eren crying about Mikasa, in Expedition 33 is just sad because Verso lied to the expedition like 8 to 10 times till the end of the game and is probably lying about "Painters dying after too much time living in a canvas".

Why would they confirm anything, game's likely a one and done.

Renoir really looks like Pierce Brosnan

that picto

they played with us

Because I said so

genuinely wonder if you played the game if you think that last statement was a lie, absolutely nothing indicates that to be the case.

Who would win in a fight?

Verso makes Gustave his bitch, just like all the women in Gustave's life.

Not him but the mother and sister clearly hold her responsible to some degree. Can't remember if they elaborate on why.

probably lying about "Painters dying after too much time living in a canvas".

I doubt that. There's a mention at one point the same scenario happened before with Renoir getting too into a painting and the mom needing to pull him out, plus Maelle's face getting fucked up in the end.

top 10 images Alicia doesn't want you to see

What will the movie pick as canon ending? Also cast Renoir, Verso and Maelle.

Painted Verso is an old man but everyone else is the same age. Had the fragment of Verso's soul still been in charge of maintaining the world, then everyone would age at a steady rate like they did before. Maelle kept the world at a standstill as part of her cope except for Verso, who she's letting die like he wanted, but slowly in hopes he turns around and learns to appreciate something before oblivion.

WHERE
THE
FUCK
IS
THE
SFM
PORN????????

Verso either just wants to finally die or, more likely, he wants his mother and his sister to stop living in a fantasy world and face their grief. Yes, life sucks but it's not healthy to live in a fantasy world to escape that.
Him lying to the "people" in the painting is basically the equivalent to lying to a character you made up in your head.
In short, Verso did nothing wrong.

Can't remember if they elaborate on why.

Because she is the reason he died and their manor got burned to the ground, explicitly.

Et Gustave dome guardeam

Does the game ever explain what the Heart of the Paintess was actually supposed to be

Renoir always been a big softie and has a huge softspot for Alicia.

The movie will pretend Maelle is in the right and her dad and brother are oppressing her and go with her own

my own fantasy world free of chuds is GREAT

in true american fashion.

based

probably something Verso made up to string the party along

Isn’t mezzo forte just 2-4 ap? There’s a pictos that makes the base attack 2 hits, and another that gives 2 ap per base attack hit, so you get 2 hits and guaranteed 4 ap

Ahem

Alicia is responsible for what happened, but they all cope in different ways.
Renoir doesn't really blame her because she's his teenage daughter and got fucked up.
Clea does, but she cares a lot about her in her own way, she's just harsh.
Alina is heavily depressed and blames her fully for it, and the canvas isn't helping her get over it.

Pretty sure no such thing exists. Verso made it up to earn trust of the expeditioners.

plus Maelle's face getting fucked up in the end.

Why are you guys so dumb, this is just how Verso is seeing Maelle, like a god controlling everyone, puppetering to do their will.

That's the difference between the cattle and me, I don't trust in anything just because it was stated by more than 2 characters, if they can die inside the canvas then Clea is the worst character in this game that doesn't give a fuck about their parents life or her sister, even worst, because she enters on the canvas and make everything worst by fucking up even more.

Sure but I meant how exactly. They never talk about how the fire started or how Alicia fucked up and caused it to happen.

get deceived by writers

they come to your house and burn it to the ground

Calling others dumb

While grasping at straws to justify his own headcanon

I don't think Verso could shrug off a fully charged overcharge like Renoir could. He can heal from anything, but nothing indicates he can just instantly refresh his injuries like Renoir did, which means Gustave could win a fight by KO.

Dude can tank getting split in half like nobody's business.

Clea is just on the warpath. She wants to go and get revenge on the Writers, but the entire family drama is tearing themselves apart, and making her more bitter and resentful towards them.
She cares, but that's why she's so pissed with them and done with the whole thing.

It's the real Aline. The people of Lumiere think the Paintress is the giant that's curled up in front of the tower.

Lie number #36 from Verso.

Who would win, Verso from Clair Obscur or Kaim from Lost Odyssey

Clea is so relatable for her little screentime

can you just drop your fucking drama, addiction and depression and focus on murdering the shit out of the people who killed Verso?

He got eaten and likely digested by the giant sky serpent multiple times and is perfectly fine.

Alina is in the manor, that's the "heart of the paintress" since he wouldn't just tell them their god is there all weak and depressed.

How many of these "adventures" were actually Verso trying to kill himself?

is this supposed to be realVerso's soul?

fully agree with Verso in the end

have to live with the decision and having to see Lune's cold judgemental soul piercing stare into your soul

have to live with the fact you killed the two genuine and innocent best bros Monoco and Esquie

live with the memory of seeing your group wave goodbye at the end

Feels bad man.
It's also funny throughout the entire game, I wished Gustave was in the adventure with us or hoping there's some way to bring him back, only to actually get that in Maelle ending and it just felt hollow.
I grieved, accepted his death and said goodbye to Gustave during his burial scene. I needed to let him go.

there's no dialogue difference if you do Maelle relantionship quest in the endgame

If his endgame was always to end the world what was the point of assail Maelle so much?

How you guys can side with a realistic depiction of a Indian man trying to pull scams all the time against a group of honest people? Gustavé looks like a arab mixed with a french but at least he was a good guy, Verso is always trying to undermine conversations, put fake hopes on the expedition and even gaslightning his own friends into killing themselves.

not using last chance and stendahl

ngmi

attacking loses stance. actually, the maelle skill that puts her at 1 HP and virtuous stand is really good since it triggers the lumina that gives her another turn when <30% hp

You have to be dumb NOT to use Roulette, it’s legitimately so damn good

Likes the bad ending

Feels "hollow" in the good ending

stendahl

You didn't beat the game.

Accepting Gustaves death as being final was a good choice. Was a microcosm of how the girl needs to accept the death of Verso too. The whole games theme revolves around acceptance of the inevitability of death. Even destroying the canvas is essentially accepting that everyone in that world dies.

Who said I liked that ending? I just agree with it more.

Hope for Gustave Route DLC, because with how the game has done the developers are probably thinking about doing something like DLC before jumping into their next game.

The 20 hour story took them 6 years to make. A Gustave DLC would take them 2 years at minimum.

There is nothing wrong about the Maelle ending and it's objectively the more moral one.

B-But she'll le die

Only the biggest liars in the game say that.

have to live with the fact you killed the two genuine and innocent best bros Monoco and Esquie

This shit fucking destroyed me. The way Monoco quietly sobs into his shoulder was just too much.

See, you actually understood the game and have a proper outlook on death.
UNLIKE MAELLE AND ALICIA.

Did he heal within the thing's stomach in a matter of hours like wolverine when he got eaten by the Hulk, or did he get fully digested, shat out, and then take God knows how long to regenerate? We don't know how fast his healing factor is, but it's definitely not instant like Renoir's is.

Maelle

her existence in the real world is pain, she wants to live a happy life like before the accident, wants to protect his two families at any cost even if it means that she will die

This is considered the bad guy in Anon Babble eyes

Verso

the guy that lied to his allies, betrayed his painted family, real mother and his real sister in his ending, backstab his long time friend Monoco and gaslighted Lune and Sciel and wants to destroy the entire world because he wants to die

This is considered the good guy in Anon Babble because "escapism is le bad" like they learned from Mr. Yasumi Mitsubishi from Final Tranny Tactics

This board is full of immoral people that will burn in hell, I will cease all discussion about this game because you guys are blinded by post-postmodernism propaganda.

cant wait to see her on the war path in sequel

I could have saved him...

verso end is verso begging maelle to give irl a chance, surely she'll find happiness there after enough time

maelle end is verso is begging for sweet release and maelle wants him to live for the chance of future happiness (didn't work)

Yes. Part of it.

It especially hurts knowing that both Monoco and Esquie since the beginning knew Verso's plan. They were ready to jump into oblivion for Verso. They were ready to die in the end.

because he wants to die

brainlet

Reminder that there would be no issue if Alicia took short breaks from the canvas.
NO ISSUE AT ALL.

Verso's ending is him saying "Go paint another world to live in, I want to die already"

from Final Tranny Tactics

Game is clearly a retread of the plot of SH2. Verso is Mary. Maelle ending is the Maria ending. And Versons is the leave ending.

wish it was 15years ago cause then I could say you retards were just trolling but current year you are actually going full retard

>have to live with the decision and having to see Lune's cold judgemental soul piercing stare into your soul

What was Sciel even doing in that scene? It was like a friendly disapproval or something

My son, come aura farm with your real family

Verso didn't backstab Monoco, he and Esquie knew what Verso was planning and followed him anyway because they're loyal as fuck.

You forgot the part where a little boy's soul was used to power Maelle's fantasy.

In the end, was it a good decision to kill him off? Do you feel the story benefits from the MC swap?

This. I need my Golgra porn.

moderation is impossible for addicts. ain't gonna happen

The confusion comes from the fact that Verso thinks Maelle wants to live in the painting because she's not crippled in it and could just paint another one and live in there or even use other painting or have her parents make another one.
But it's actually the same thing as Aline sin, she's grieving for Verso and doesn't want to let him go, if she leaves the painting it means she has to let go of Verso. That's why she said to Verso " I just want to live the life that we were robbed off, live a lifetime together"
Not realizing its hurting her brother, both painted and the real soul version.

Do you feel the story benefits from the MC swap?

No because they lost their Overwhelming Positive rating on Steam from chinks giving negative reviews over "NTR".
I get where they're coming from honestly

Took them 6 years because building all the systems. A DLC will take much less time.

I thought sciel was there because I romanced her, is she always in the scene?

makes chinks seethe

still selling really well

All positives.

Yes, it was a good decision that motivates Alicia later on. The poor decision was not having Maelle be the controllable character in camp durring act 2 to avoid the feeling of Gustave getting cucked by a new dude taking his spot.

The problem was that it was predictable because people were speculating from the very first trailer that they were going to do it because Gustave was never present in any scenario where the party had high HP.

It's was an empathetic approval, she knows how grief is, how it clouds your judgement, how it caused the death of her baby in the womb.
So she understands Verso's decision.

Controlling Maelle would have been shitty, because Esquie and Monoco having fun with Verso is where half of the fun silly shit from the game comes from.

to avoid the feeling of Gustave getting cucked by a new dude taking his spot.

this is genuinely a stain in the game and I'm not some gachanigger schizo

This is the first I heard of the romance affecting his ending, can anyone confirm if Lune still sits down and death stares Verso if you fuck her?

was used to power Maelle's fantasy.

Retard the real Verso put that piece of his soul in there when he made the painting and he only became so distraught because of the state his canvas was in after his dipshit family turned into some horrible battlefield. You destroy the canvas you destroy the piece of his soul.

I shagged her in my playthrough so I was livid

yeah but it lets you reach your skills without losing stance

I suppose the story becomes too much about Verso to have Gustave as protagonist, but it just doesn't feel right somehow. My guess is the devs wanted to capture the jrpg feeling then turn on its head. Again, doesn't feel completely right.

Simon prequel dlc about his adventures with Verso and Renoir- yes or no?

He had a fuckton of death flags but I wasn't expecting them to actually do it. I admire it but it still stung, I wanted to see him to the end.

jrpg fans really be like "yo this gameplay fire"

This "EUA" vs "China" thing is so tiresome.

Retard the real Verso put that piece of his soul in there

Which was being used to power the canvas against its will. That last piece of his soul wanted to stop painting and let go, just like playable Verso.

Do you feel the story benefits from the MC swap?

No because that's exactly when the story stops caring about the fantasy world it's set in, also Verso is too much of a whiny bitch to be a good MC

by gommaging him out of existence at 40% with maelle before he can do it to you? of course

Do you feel the story benefits from the MC swap?

Nah, the only game that benefited from this was picrel

Paint it back! Paint it back! Please, I don't want this hairstyle. I don't want this hairstyle...I don't want this hairstyle...

I didn't say she was the bad guy. I just don't think it's good for Maelle to die over a fantasy she herself knows isn't real. She doesn't even look that happy in her own ending. She's choosing death and stagnation for a fantasy she knows isn't real.
Verso is a prick in his methods, but he's right that she shouldn't die just because she doesn't want to accept reality, and as another anon said, if she didn't let herself be consumed with the painting Renoir wouldn't give a shit.
Also pretty sure Monoco and Esquie were both aware of Verso's goal. If they held it against him they wouldn't have hugged him in the end.

You can still have the Monoco/esquie skits, just batton pass to Verso being the camp character in act 3 or the middle of act 2. The point is it was too abrupt of a change with Verso taking Gustave's spot immediately after losing Gustave. There needed to be some time to mourn with the focus on Maelle.

No. Gustavo is literally me, not Verso.

I'm an Alicia started the fire truther. Writers had nothing to do with it but she did. Alicia has a bunch of books and a typewriter in her room, her painted version writes poetry, she is a weak Painter. Alicia figuratively played with fire and then made it real.

No because the mechanics would have to change. No luminas, only three pictos at a time. Any kind of prequel would change the feel of the game. Best case would be a side story with the main cast or go full alternate mode and give us the "what if Gustave didn't die?" route.

Gustave was kinda plain, he didn't have any meaningful development and all his interesting bits are in the prologue.

Ending is kind of a 'fuck you' huh. Maelle could've maintained a life in both worlds, but instead she decides 'fuck that I'm gonna torment the last vestiges of my brother's soul until I die from escapism'. And the other version is nah, everyone dies now and Maelle gets so probably commit suicide in a year or two. Absolute 'fuck you'.

Also noted that Verso died in 1905. So even if Maelle left the painting she has World War 1 to look forward to I guess.

Honestly not the best ending I could've imagined.

I did like that the credits told you that Verso's dog, which was called Monoco, and Monoco was named after, was named after a real dog named Monoco, which was in the family portrait. That was sweet at least.

anon the game tells so that in the ACT2 epilogue, did you speedrun to clea instead of looking arround?

I took it as she understood why he did it and wanted to comfort him, but that doesn't mean she's happy about it, which is why she stopped herself, unlike Lune just staring in cold fury.

It was a good decision, they just handled it poorly. Having Verso immediately take the reins 5 minutes after his death then introducing the relationship mechanic right then and there was in poor taste.

Real dog. As in real life, faggot. The game doesn't break the fourth wall on that. But feel free to be an autistic elitist over nothing you dumb cunt.

There were so many hints to a secret third ending spread throughout that it’s weird how it all comes down to “pick good end or bad end”

It's actually rather impressive how they have managed to write characters with deep personal faults and you still manage to care about all of them.
It's probably what you get when you let decent writers do their thing and don't micromanage every single paragraph

The relationship mechanic doesn't get introduced until at least gradient attacks are.

Because Alicia wouldn't compromise, a third ending would imply Alicia accepting her life isn't there and visiting the painting from time to time.
But she can't.

I doubt she'd kill herself. They push the whole "for those who come after" stuff too much for me to believe she'd just end it, especially with them all standing in front of her at the grave beating it over the head she's the one who comes after, who carries them with her. The ending is meant to be they have a chance to finally make peace with what happened and move on.
Yeah there should have been a period, even a short one of just the girls in the party before Verso shows up and joins.

The writer was a private equity investor and it is her first job writing anything. Between that and the composer who was a guitar teacher, it's fucking incredible.

The third ending "A Life to Dream" doesn't exist precisely because it's a dream.

I will never understand the core argument that Aline will always be depressed and looking to escape as long as the painting exists. I would say that she never really got better at all then. I'm just not convinced by the argument.

my wife is depressed and now addicted to drugs

if I destroy the drugs, she'll have no choice but to get better

like is this not unrealistic to anyone else

Renoir wanting to murder tons of people cause of his hag wife and mute ugly daughter

Nigga needs better priorities, me I'd just make a bunch of Lune's as sex toys.

the ideal dream ending is the one we dream of ourselves

BRAVO JEN

In the Maelle ending she takes husband to see the man she was having sympathy fucks with being forced to play Piano, so i guess they're even

What is even the pointo ftherelationships except tom ake Verso potentially look like a bigger piece of shit

That seems like way too optimistic of an interpretation considering the imagery of her being completely alone in front of a completely empty garden staring down at a grave for a prolonged period before fading to black.

They really did not throw a 'she'll be fine' bone in there.

She's a redditor
so it's a reddit story

she won't have any choice. she can't recreate the last piece of verso's soul. it isn't like renoir is throwing out her alcohol stash when there's a liquor store down the street.

Restraining a person in an environment where they can't get drugs is like the first step towards rehab.
Once the person can be reasoned with, you start with the therapy.

What is even the pointo ftherelationships except tom ake Verso potentially look like a bigger piece of shit

Sciel, for her part, did not fall in love with Verso.

It's not that unrealistic to destroy the core of the problem.
She's obsessed with that particular canvas because part of Verso's soul is in it. She will never get better if that drug is always readily available.

It's still raw and painful. The ending is just that they have the chance to heal, over her ending where she's living in a illusion she knows isn't real, choosing to die then try to face reality.

wants to protect her two families at any cost even if it means that she will die

But not if it means leaving the canvas or giving Verso the release he wants. Then her other family can just die.

This is when the game went from 10/10 to 1/10. Then they just drop Verso on you and make him take Gustave's place in the party using the same weapons. What a fucking joke. Then Verso goes on to cuck Gustave and all the girls including Maelle drool over his dick. How could anyone replay this cuckshit.

all the girls including Maelle drool over his dick

including Maelle

seek christ

I never said she did, I stll think it was pretty fucked up to do that to her

if you take the source of an addiction away from someone but don't deal with the cause of why they abused it in the first place, they likely just kill themselves or engage in other destructive habits

well they did deal with it because the ending said so

well cool, it just makes the ending feel stupid to me then

Your fault for self-inserting like a cuck.

What's Clair Obscure faggots favorite JRPG?
FF9 here.

Reminder Monoco really wanted to live in the end but he wasn't a traitor like Verso so he helped his friend no matter what

Aline isn't a child. She has a decent shot of coming to her senses.

I'm not really following you. Why wouldn't you take the source of the problem away from them first? They're not going to focus on anything you say when it's right there in front of them.

they could've taken his development in any direction, I think the biggest failing of E33's story is not tying in the whole "self-sacrifice" theme to the greater narrative, and punting it to the side to talk only about grief. Both endings are ultimately about two selfish retards.

It's because Monoco was convinced that Verso wants to help Maelle take down Renoir lmao. It's complete cope to think Monoco deep down knows that Verso is going to betray the team.

I mean she kind of can't really. The game pretty heavily implies that time works at different speeds in the painting and out of it so if Maelle did leave even for a couple days everyone she knows and loves will have aged and potentially even died. It really does need to be one or the other.

Trails in the Sky: SC

That sounds like bullshit but I'll believe it.

The problem was that she didn't want to let Verso go. She didn't want to accept that he's gone and with the painting, she always had a "real" version of Verso aviable so why bother with the loss of her son? Renoir rightfully thought that this isn't healthy and so did Verso.
That guy literally worked towards killing the last piece of him so him and his family might be free to mourn at last.

Why are aline and alicia so heartbroken and depressed over verso? Dude sucks, i would be glad he was dead if he was my family

FF10

It works better if you consider they are a family of Painters and Painting is their life. Verso's painting is the only one he made and is the last piece of him left in their world. Its possible Aline can fixate on something else of his but she knows Painting far too well so his painting is too strong of an obsession for her.

maybe it's just cause i've watched better movies and literature tackle this subject but "dude just destroy the source of your addiction" sounds like an extremely naive way to approach grief and depression

Nigga...

The ending is everyone sacrificing themselves so Alicia fucks off and lives her own life.

No, it's Verso sacrificing everyone. Lune was angry as fuck about it. Understandably. Fucking dickhead.

That was the painting his wife had to drag him out of in the past.

It's not that it will immediately make her better. It's more that removing the temptation to indulge in fantasy will kind of force her to confront her grief instead of running away from it.

Octopath Traveler II

Monoco knows what Verso is planning, he just refuses to betray his friend. Which is what Verso would have done as well if he wasn't a treacherous back stabbing piece of shit who would sooner destroy all of real Verso's creations and all of Lumiere rather than listen to his friends and think of a better solution.
I don't think Maelle is right btw, she's just crazy. Still better than that traitor scum.

And himself.

think of a better solution.

You think of a better solution.
He went full scorched earth because of Alicia's lies and addiction.

I'm not much of a JRPG guy but FFX is probably my favourite

That's cause the game doesn't show much beyond the point of them taking away the source of the addiction. That would be the first step then trying to help them heal, but all we see after the painting get's destroyed is them at the grave.

No? Everyone fights to end the gommage and for a new tomorrow. They are prepared to sacrifice for that tomorrow, for their loved ones. We spend 99% of the main story doing this only for those two pieces of shit Alicia and Verso to ruin it for everyone at the very end.

Monster Girl Quest (unironically)

Can't remember if they elaborate on why.

verso died saving alicia from the fire

#JusticeForJulie

i blew up simon phase 2 with maelle and got the plat trophy, soon everyone else won't be able to effortlessly do the same. looks like early, first-adopter, bought it on day 1 chads win again.

aline creates millions of sentient beings as background characters for her deranged dollhouse

makes the painted family inherit physical or mental trauma for no good reason

renoir sentences millions of those sentient beings to die and struggle just to get his bitch wife out

clea mindbreaks her painted version and forces her to create horrible monsters for the rest of her life

the only reason verso's soul wants to stop painting is because his family turned his canvas into a place of perpetual misery

Why the fuck would I want anything good to happen to this family

The biggest problem is it's not just a drug it's the last piece of their son they have left she would realistically ever forgive renoir for destroying it and as far as the "drug" thing goes she has other canvases. Alicia's irl life was miserable and there is zero reason to think that would change she would honestly probably kill herself after a couple years assuming the writers don't finish the job on her family anyway.

It wasn't about addiction, it was about grief and loss. The painting gave the mother a way to have her son back even though he is gone. So she had no reason to process her loss.

It's more on Alicia since if she just agreed to leave and visit in moderation, they would have accepted that. But she refused to leave, and Verso sees no other option then but to cut her off.

It's not the same world anon. Verso died on day 33.

FF10 and Lost Odyssey

Alicia brings everyone back and gives them a free future

She is promptly booted out and can never come back

Verso is shackled inside the manor and left alone forever

Best ending DLC when?

Fan art comic where Gustav lives so Maelle doesn't go crazy and the ending is her finding happiness in both worlds. And Lune's repainted parent apologise to her for being so hard on her.

Canonical. Because magical painting is the same as fanart and headcanon or some shit. You know it to be true probably.

You can just use fire stacking and use Pyrolyse I really don't know why people are crying about this

I think it would've been cool for Verso's ending if Sciel was chill with dying, but Lune on the other side of the painting looked extremely pissed off, punching and screaming at the portal as her life fades.

Shut up writer scum

I killed p2 simon in 1 round with sword ballet. Maelle is just busted in general. The stendahl nerf won't change that.

yeah, i was fucking pissed about it. the game expects us to view the ending where everything dies as an unavoidable and preferable outcome. maelle could've been forced out of the canvas like aline was, and renoir could've brought back the people he erased and not destroyed the thousands of sentient lives in it. this outcome was way, way, too achievable to not even be discussed -- maelle never argues on behalf of the people in the painting, she just talks about how SHE doesn't want to leave. it's fucked.

I meant more on the exact circumstances of how the fire even happened. Like did she try and talk to the writers or something, thinking they weren't all bad and they idk, sent her a fucking pipe bomb in the mail? We just know that a fire happened and Alicia in some way fucked up and caused it in the first place. Aline blames her for it, Clea has some resentment towards her for it and Renoir doesn't blame her.

Verso is forced to actually live again instead of being angsty and wanting to die

Maelle is forced to actually confront reality and move on from her grief and reconnect with her family

ffxiv!

A cool DLC would be post Maelle ending where Clea comes into the painting and recruits Gustave for help. It invalidates the dual ending so I doubt it would ever happen

So everyone says this shit is good but the QTE soulslop turnbased combat system sounds like dogshit. If i turn off the QTEs is there any strategy in combat on the highest difficulty or is it just turn based dark souls?

Exactly. We're supposed to think that it is just grief driving them into these acts of cruelty but its their very nature as Painters to intentionally and unintentionally harm their creations. Its what makes the Verso ending even more cruel as everything those characters went through, all their suffering and ends was to heal the family of maniacs. Maelle's ending is best because her, Verso and the family are worse off.

You sound like a retard so just don't play it. You won't enjoy it.

Do the family ever once actually give a shit about the painted people in the canvas?

Verso has been forced to live for 100 years.
It's been enough.

No he's been forced to exist. He hasn't once lived.

I like parryslop and i like turn based though, just sounds dogshit put together

It's really fun instead.

I refer to my previous post

You can turn off the qte's for skills in the settings, but you have to learn the dodging and parrying.

youtu.be/UUVw37UD9Cc?t=167
I STOOD UP AND CLAPPED

All of them do except Clea who is a straight up psychopath. Renoir says he knows how important the beauty and life found in the paintings is, he just knows how to use it without letting it destroy him. He learned that from Aline, who was the greatest painter before she went crazy due to Verso's death.

What broke me was the realization that instead of Aline preserving and protecting her dead son's canvas, a place that was once his pure and wholesome idealized fantasy world, she intentionally painted hundreds of niggers into it and irrevocably destroyed it. It's worse than pissing on his grave, she took a giant steaming shit directly into his soul.

If i turn off the QTEs

you can only turn off the attack QTEs, not dodges and parries, but you can build every character like a tank and give them the +AP on taking damage picto and just face tank if you want. if you cheat engine auto-dodge i doubt youd have fun

yes, destroying the painting is genocide
no, I don't care

THE ONE WHOSE EVERY STEP SHAKES THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD! THE ONE KNOWN AS...

françois

Why is Esquie the best bros?

bet he felt good enough when he blasted Lune's ovaries

The rollslop mechanics fit the genre surprisingly well. Learning patterns is easier and you get good at fights quicker + there's a lot of build variety that genuinely change the way you play
I genuinely think you should give it a shot even if the combination sounds like it shouldn't work well

youtu.be/AeXdtz05Gqc?si=0Sz8F4_Dd2Ug7uwA
The fight properly sinks in when you know the lyrics.

They do. But Renoir cares more about his wife and daughter then them.
Simple as.

Clea doesn't give a fuck
Aline cares enough to paint the number to warn the people about how much time they have left
Renoir acknowledges the grief that Sciel feels over Pierre and her unborn child. Which isn't much but it shows that he doesn't find their feelings to be without any merit.

Neither Renoir did nothing wrong.

That's not true, Verso's soul says he loves other people painting things on his canvas and in fact that's what his original intention was for it all along, he made it for his family to enjoy exciting adventures and "fresh beginnings". The only exception is Clea who paints monstrous abominations that deliberately make the canvas suffer. Aline's mistake was using the canvas to make a copy of Verso, going against its purpose.

Oh right ok. I usually have enough for percee and if I have extra I use flurry for 3 hits + stay in virtuose

The game can throw some bullshit moves at you if you never dodge/parry. Like a boss permanently deleting a character from the fight, which they can use multiple times.

Stendahl looking kinda mid what do we do?

x75 multiplier

Alicia lived a privileged life. It's only right she gets sent back to real life to learn the real hardships of the common man.

The game is terrible about actually approaching the topic of grief and loss.

just stop engaging in escapism

just stop being sad

important the beauty and life found in the paintings is

but he fucking erases them without a second thought? he'd rather erase them then take his wife and daughter to a therapist or something? clearly he can get them out of the canvas, it's literally just a matter of convincing them not to go back in, or hiding the fucking painting, or whatever.

We have that one SH2 song at home: youtube.com/watch?v=ztbPkvqRiGg

Act I

"Fuck yeah Expedition 33! For those who come after BITCH!"

Act II

"...I guess I'll go on that direction while this melancholic song plays... hmn another boss dead"

They killed the soul of the game.

The escapism metaphor kinda falls flat when the people in the canvas actually are just real people with souls and everything.

he wants to erase it because of Verso's soul, genius

the way it was intended

is the intended way to instantly kill him using an auto death-survivor setup that lets you do 150m damage each turn? if so then yeah that's how I did it, Act 3 was so insanely boring because I was just one shotting every enemy

she only did that after the fracture tho, she already painted half of everything originally including francois, the nevrons were made after aline sperged out

people arguing that pigments of your imagination are real

mental illness, verso was right

They're just clumps of chroma, they're not real people.

He cannot. Aline is too strong a Painter for him to just overpower. In fact he is overpowered by her and all they can do is the gommage stalemate for decades.

Clea absolutely does not
Aline did cruel things to the painted family when creating them so I wouldn't say so
Renoir acknowledges they're sentient beings that suffer, but also says it changes nothing because they don't matter compared to his real family so at least he's honest
Maelle cares about them, but she immediately starts believing she knows better than them the moment she gets her powers

Painters have too much power to really care because if they did they probably wouldn't be able to sleep at night knowing what they did

If you are going to kill a character, I suppose this is the "correct" way to do it unlike how it happened to the last of us's guy.

Yeah, Clea and Verso apparently were having fun in the canvas together all the time years ago. I guess she turned into a bitch after Verso died

How someone that doesn't exist is right about something?

can i have a short plot description of this game?
i refuse to touch turn based slop

Define real. December has 33 days in the "real" world.

she knows better than them the moment she gets her powers

literally nobody wants to die except Verso

You're just blood and tissue. You're not real.

FFTA but a painting

He's the only one with free will because he has a real person's memories.

They are depressed over REAL Verso's death, the painted clone had different experiences that made him bitter and a fucking "Marche". I am sure the real one wasn't like that.

Julie

who?

Bunch of retarded gods cause a lot of problems because they are incapable of dealing with grief in a healthy way

So the painted Alicia, Renoir and Clea aren't real like the painted Verso? Even though they were all painted by Aline?

big number goes down

people die

they're trying to stop it

I like the story but it's kinda lame that Sciel and Lune just don't really matter.

She's understandably angry she's taking revenge all on herself while her parents are having a fight in a painting and her sister (whom I'm sure she blames for the fire) is completely useless.

Painted Verso's waifu, you only learn about her from painted verso's diary you can find the postgame. According to the diary, things...went really wrong.

Show me the dialogue or journal in the game that says that

How fucked painters would be if at least one writer will have the same powers as Alan?

When he first meets Verso in person he actually treats him like a human and even apologises to him too, he just has to do what needs to be done apparently

why was crispy maelle smiling at verso's funeral, that doesn't seem like the proper emotion for someone that fought for the opposite outcome, was the funeral in another canvas?

how do you think the fire started?

Verso's old love interest who stopped trusting him after an accident revealed that he was immortal but he tried to play it off as something else. She and some other expeditioners captured and tortured him for info.

Real Verso wasn't a niggerfaggot backstabber like painted Verso. By all accounts he was a good dude who his whole family loved despite his lack of enthusiasm for painting. The only reason Clea comes across as a bitch is because she loved verso so much that she wants to kill every writer to avenge him.

One of the likely thousands of people Verso betrayed and killed over the years for figuring out he was lying to them.

I never played AW2. Was it any good?

because she realized she's finally free from her addiction and her family can finally move on instead of being melodramatic freaks?

Something about "the writters tricked Alice" and doesn't elaborate.

It's escapism. Can't you see? It's not healthy!

FUCK P*INTERS

Because she realized Verso was right all along. Her smile is real unlike in her ending where it's clearly fake and forced.

They probably can do Alan Wake-type shit considering it's most likely they tricked Alicia into writing something that caused the fire in real life

i refuse to play the best video game genre

suit yourself

which means she didn't give one shit about the Lumiere people even in her own ending, actual fucking cunt

t.Verso

The spoilerbait early and bigger twist later structure is really effective, huh? No wonder FF7 was so critically acclaimed.

Verso's Ending

Wants the dream to end so those that have suffered can finally rest.

Maelle's ending

Wants to begin the cycle anew, despite knowing it will inevitably go the same way.

And somehow you retards think Maelle's ending is the good one? What, because Verso lied?

He probably would have turned into another Simon if he had lived.

The whole point of her seeing them there is that she carries them in her or some bullshit. The whole "for those who come after" thing they kept saying.

Women, am I right?

because they want to fuck maelle, why else

Its kind of the point. None of them matter in the grand scheme of things and the grand scheme is a shitty family being shitty.

well...yeah, they're not real dude
the game likes to go "oh well they COULD have souls" and shit but in the end all of the people are treated as nothing more than playthings by whoever the painter of the canvas is, by accepting they're real you're accepting that Maelle is an extremely awful person that was going to play God with peoples' lives because she was a little lonely irl

How many of the devs were Nierfags?

What does the Canvas do in the Canvas dungeon?

Yes

At least one

Yeah I keep seeing people like because Verso is a liar his ending is the bad one.
He was a cunt, but Maelle's ending is not good for her to die in a make believe world she knows isn't real.

watch 5 seconds later where she sees visions of them saying goodbye retard

Considering that Alan can manipulate reality and not just create fake worlds- very fucked. He can write anything he wants and it'll happen

I don't know but I know the director is a huge DMCfag, even has his own youtube channel with no damage runs:
youtube.com/watch?v=zBilY0HUCPU&t=4s

I have nothing but sheer hatred for Verso yet I picked his ending out of cold calculated assesment

>Wants the dream to end so those that have suffered can finally rest.

and by 'those' he means him and fuck everyone else

by accepting they're real you're accepting that Maelle is an extremely awful person that was going to play God with peoples' lives because she was a little lonely irl

Well yes, because they are and she is in that ending, doesn'tm ean they didn't deserve to live. The Lumiere people were sentient, had free will from their creators, created new life, they were absolutely 'real'.

Devil May Cry

No wonder Verso got a style meter.

that gook boy has some rancid taste

lead game designer

favorite game is Dota

Now that explains a lot

I've seen the ending you faggot, I don't really see how this changes anything considering they are dead.

based as fuck

I never played AW2. Was it any good?

It's good but gameplay is still the worst part of it

Yes cause Verso is one of the most compelling characters in this genre

Based Thomas

How come people is effectively broken into two opposing camps argumenting over if either Verso or Maelle were right and when pic related made his "Verso before Verso" EVERYONE was effectively against him instead? what is the difference this time?

Average Expedition 60 Expeditioner

they were absolutely 'real'

so Renoir, Clea, Aline and Alicia all commited decades of generational murder over a family spat, the player murders hundreds of beings with thoughts and souls (Nevrons), and Gestrals just get left out of your "but what about the Lumerians" argument too

Question. Am I gonna have to do two playthroughs to get both endings?

lead writer

only likes slop

It was always over

Absolute chads

Yes

that "slop" was released before you were even born, underage

because Marche is just a twat who the narrative decided to overwhelmingly support. Japs can't into subtlety. The Frogs were very cunning setting up the first half of the game with patriotric "for those who come after" stuff.

I heard the lead writer actually applied for a VA role and instead became the lead writer, is that true?

what the fuck is simon anyway

I'm demoting this from a weekend game to an after work game and Astlibra is going to be the weekend game again. At least in Astlibra you aren't a cuck bitch faggot who dies in the first act. I just want to end it as soon as possible and never touch it again.

60 were the ones who stripped off their clothes and just ran as fast as they could right?

Marche came off as a know it all brat though.

Two new classmates with shitty home lives are happy

Sickly brother is healthy and happy

It's not real so Marche wants to destroy it... despite it being made rather clear that him stumbling across the little reality tear was pure chance and NOT proof that he needed to destroy Ivalice

Yes. She applied on this post on reddit:
reddit.com/r/RecordThisForFree/comments/g5a6e8/game_ambitious_aa_game_project_looking_for_3/

It was to voice this trailer:
streamable.com/fxo6p1

Yes they did, what's so hard to understand here, they're cunts

Gestrals just get left out of your "but what about the Lumerians" argument too

What are you talking about, they were wiped too, what am I missing?

you are brown

Gustave if he got cucked by Sophie.

I was born before both versions but it's cute you think she's talking about the ps2 game

yep, the canvas is powered by a small part of themselves, a part of the soul that the painters have to leave in it
dunno if its ever mentioned if it hurts them or how many times they can do this

No I am heterosexual unlike Clair Obscur enjoyers.

Well, that is fucking bizarre, how you apply for something and end up in a postition COMPLETELY UNRELATED to your original goal?

am I crazy or is Sophie's face literally just Clea's reused?

I think this is a rare case where two endings are pretty much perfectly balanced in the amount of happiness and suffering being exchanged. Someone gets massively gets screwed over in exchange for someone's happiness in both endings and it's pretty much up to who you think deserves to be saved more, Renoir's family or Lumiere/Gestrals/Grandis

Verso just watching a bunch of Gigachad's and Stacy's charging naked all the way to the Paintress and actually making it

self-inserting wierdo

Astlibra genuinely hurts to look at, one of the ugliest games i have had the displeasure of trying and refunding

Clea can probably do it forever since she has no soul.

I have a question for everyone who didn't like the main plot twist and thought it ruined the story- did you dislike reveal about Tidus in FFX as well or not?

I played a TRUE French SRPG instead.

Different execution of narrative.

I was all for Verso until he reveals he let Gustave die for no reason. What a massive fucking own goal since Gustave would probably be the most pro-Verso ending out of the whole Expedition.

She got a script summary and notes for her VA audition, got interested and started discussing the story, offered suggestions, ended up behind hired.
Extremely weird development cycle

Sophie = Clea

If mama and papa are feuding in the painting why would mama make a fake papa?

Don't believe all rags to riches stories. Have you seen her LinkedIn? She worked at NASA

So which one is the real Gustave and the painted one

the reveal would be more like if literally everyone but Tidus was a dream of the fayth

Yes, honestly the stories behind the game are fucking insane

lead writer is a redditor who wanted to voice a character but the director liked her ideas so much he just made her the lead writer

the composer was found on some random obscure music forum that the director just happened to visit

the lead singer was able to compose lyrics on the spot because she liked the composer's music so much

they got both verso's and maelle's voice actors through blind auditions and only realized they got clive and shadowheart afterwards

Wrong order of events.

he loged in after she was there for a while, she just made her own make believe family before he came

Swapping to Verso was jarring. Until the end I just was asking myself why I'm controlling this asshole. Maelle would make more sense as the new MC, but I guess they wanted the little sex mini event.

Yes, it's the same. The theory is that Aline reused their chroma after the real Clea trapped them to create Gustave and Clea. Simon has Gustave's Overpower Ability. And one of the themes was using your experiences to paint shit. Clea probably broke up with the real Simon cause she didn't want kids, and Aline wanted grandchildren, so she wrote them into her fanfiction world.

The composer was just some guy on Soundcloud iirc

What an ugly game.

they lost their Overwhelming Positive rating on Steam from chinks giving negative reviews over "NTR".

lmao is this true

First game where I actually thought romance was wholly unnecessary. Verso had no business getting that close to them, that was obvious from the start

In one of the behind-the-scenes videos he says he posted his soundcloud to a niche music forum and the director found him there

they got both verso's and maelle's voice actors through blind auditions and only realized they got clive and shadowheart afterwards

How the fuck do you accidentally hire Jennifer English

Painted Verso is Aline's twisted amoral version of her own son. You can piece together what the real Verso was like by talking to the faded boy.

From the trailers I thought that Maelle joined the expedition to find her brother who was Verso. From Verso voicing the trailers and them getting Charlie Cox as the MC. I thought no fucking they have Charlie Cox voice an entire 50 hour game. Ben Starr is replacing him in some way.

I liked it because it clearly represented Verso reluctantly getting attached to these people, despite his best efforts he couldn't help but begin to care and love them. He even says things like "I'd really like for you all to survive this" when they get in trouble with Renoir. But then it all falls apart and goes to waste in the end because he just drops all thought of them in an instant and has no issue with betraying and killing them all a second time.

Verso in the cuck chair watching Sciel with her husband

I agree. Dogshit NTR ending.

Well it's not like they could have made the gameplay any worse at least.

Go to steam to check if it's true

It literally is

What the fuck is wrong with those bugmen

They were probably cast before the games came out and got popular.

It's worse because Verso's journal entries from the past show he used to think exactly like the Lumierians and just recently (relatively) became a doomer

Verso is far too busy being made to fuck Lune to sleep every night. Btw she has insomnia and is very sexually frustrated.

Go and read them yourself, my nigga Gustave got TRAPPED and BETRAYED and KEKED.
Doing any romance as Verso felt like chewing on glass, I don't know what they were thinking with this

hey here is the script for the VA

hm I like this part but maybe it would better like this

oh that's smart! wanna write?

sure

not that strange

But then it all falls apart and goes to waste in the end because he just drops all thought of them in an instant and has no issue with betraying and killing them all a second time.

because two events broke him for good: Maelle/Alicia lying to her dad and discovering that the whole paint world in keep alive by slaving the last remain of real verso.

Actually based of them to put Clive's FF16 outfit in the game too

She's a redditor

so it's a reddit story

Wtf I love reddit now

Esquie was the best boy.

If the whole thing was Aline's Sims fanfiction to cope with her son dying. Did she really paint babe for Verso to fuck? She gave him Julie, Sciel, Lune and probably a bunch of other expeditioners we don't know about.

AFAIK they were cast around the time their big games were coming out. Ben Starr said the director asked him 10 minutes into his audition "Are you Clive?" and Jennifer English said the director didn't recognize her despite playing Baldur's Gate 3 at the time so I assume it was in 2023

Probably but i was just wondering why so many people claimed that because of this plot twist they can't sympathized with characters anymore while Tidus is still one of the most popular FF characters to this day

Surely Sciel's husband is the cuck

it does but not because of NTR

Sciel is using Verso as a replacement goldfish

Lune doesn't get on as well with him as Gustave

any romance with Gustave would look worse because Sophie just got gommaged

and while Anon Babble would adore Gustave fucking Maelle, that was never going to happen

Clea does care. Or used to anyway. She's implied to have played with and perhaps even created Francois. It's Verso's death and the stress from her solitary war against the Writers that have made her rather unpleasant.

alicia wants to be mercy killed

maelle does it without batting an eye

verso wanted to be mercy killed and was begging with his entire soul to be put down

YOU VILL LIVE AND YOU VILL PLAY THE PIANO

Translate those noodlerunes please, or a summary would be nice.

Must be easy to appeal to your pea brain if you think these were well written characters. Monoco was the only fun one, the rest were trash.

I just wanted to play for them…

Because they are dumb and autistic.

If they could get on SE good side (assuming SE is ignoring everyone using E33 to dunk on them), they could add a FF character as a secret super boss in a later update. You may say Clive because his VA is already there but consideirng the themes of the game, the SE character that would fit E33 much better would be Tidus.

Aline didn't really make anyone in particular other than her fake family. Maybe the first generation of Lumiere was specifically made by her, but everyone like Gustave, Lune, Sciel etc. would have just been born normally without input from the paintress.

Random Gestal literally on fire in the city

he says "this is fine"

Ok French, you win this time.

Maelle is actually the same age as Gustave

That's what he gets for letting Gustave die

Other way around. SE should be careful about getting on Sandfall's good side, these AA Frogs made them look like a bunch of hacks.

She treats others as lessers after regaining her memories. She was clearly enjoying watching the fake Clea kill herself.

The Automata ending doesn’t affect me at all with how much of a no brainer the final choice is. Do you:

A. Choose the schizoid murder bot suffering from robo AIDS

B. Choose the only sane person left who ends up saving everyone

What was his problem?

look up negative reviews

go to their profile

their showcase on steam always has shit games

British

No, fuck them. Chinks reviewbomb for the stupidest of reasons.

She was basically a god. Renoir said every person was somebody she painted. Just like in Maelle's ending, she brought back everyone, but they aren't the same people she had. They were all from her memories not their true self.

There's one who starts breakdancing like that one meme.

He missed Clea. Esquie is Verso's imaginary friend. François is Clea's.

It's consistent with Sciels's character but with Lune it's very distasteful, considering what happens at the ending. Or maybe it's my inner waifufag complaining.

xenogears

No more hugs and kisses from Clea. I'd be mad too.

Based beyond belief.
I wish his Ultimate Ice Spell was an instant kill no matter your HP but remaining piss easy to dodge

I thought everybody had a back server with all of humanities memories on the moon and 9S wanted to blow it up and end the cycle. A2 wasjust going to repeat the cycle again.

I think we can be pretty certain Aline wasn't specifically making each and every citizen of Lumiere considering one of them literally created technology that ended up defeating the paintress

Win the Bonus boss

as Tidus is disappearing in fayth he gets close to Verso, gives him that water sword thing and says "you make a good other"

Verso is in shock, the others ask WTF that means, he says he doesn't know (lie).

Verso painted a fun sentient wine jug that can run, swim and fly

Clea painted a miserable Anglo rock that can only seethe

the bitch is just no fun, is she

Devs also made the baguette trailer and let you make everyone bald, they have a pretty great sense of humour

I think he would have had a lot more interesting things to say about later events and revelations than Lune and especially fucking Sciel.

The lone Brit surrounded by frenchies

English reviews are 94% positive while Chinese are only 82% positive
Reminds me when Shadow of the Erdtree came out and had mixed on Steam. In almost every language reviews were around 80% positive but in Chinese they were like 45% or some shit

they are different, faceblind schizos btfo

Nier Automata has 26 endings and it's very clear only one of them is the actual ending.

Probably was just an asshole to everyone who wasn't her.

at the very end

Honestly the whole family drama and painted world shit ruined my enjoyment of the game right around Verso joining. I was expecting a twist with the reasoning behind the gommage but what I got wasn't satisfying at all.

neglected eldest child who doesn't see as much affection from her parents makes an imaginary friend who is only nice to her and treats her like she's the world

angsty middle child who wants to appease everyone creates an imaginary friend who is nice to everyone

Checks out

do the Chinese just despise actual video games or something? It seems they only have tolerance for gachashit.

HOLY BASED

why so many people claimed that because of this plot twist they can't sympathized with characters anymore while Tidus is still one of the most popular FF characters to this day

The difference is that Tidus became a real boy later on while Lumierians didn't

Steam community reviews is actually one of the few remaining outlets for them to the outside world, they hyperfixate on it.

It's always the final boss, I wish there were more Urizen COMBOMAD videos.

what no clea does to a mf

He's not verso nigga

no
a glorified walking sim with occasional combat thats like 10x too long
i expected Resident Evil, what i got is Soma only with really bad writing and an incoherent unfinished plot ( play the dlc if you want to know the ending lol )

i cant overstate how boring it is, only so much you can wal slowing in a circle before you lose any interest in pretty graphics

just wait for Clea Obscur 2: Total Wrigger Death 88

Wait how do we know it's him

Says the fag who self inserts as Verso

Lune deserved better.

Based. Fuck Maellefags!

His bitchy French gf left him.

You have to gimp yourself to make the combat difficult. Towards the last third they give you the ability to go beyond 9999 damage and it makes the game easier than it already is. Same with the ability let every character go twice. Being bad at rollslop isn't much of a penalty either because theres a fuckload of abilities you can trigger when a character dies if you make a build for it. Its okay

The disappointment is immeasurable after wondering how there could be a survivor of a previous expedition who is old and why he's attacking the newly arrived expedition crew only to find out its all just an imaginary world and then having to sit through banal family drama and fireside gossip for 2 acts. What a fucking letdown.

whiny suicidal bitch is compelling

yeah figures Anon Babble would think this

She was destined for Gustave.

I can respect that. Most times a story goes the route Expedition 33 does it come across very lame and akin to schlock.

unironically what were your expected after all the "YOU ARE IN A PAINTING" warning signs from the beginning

There is no 'Good' Ending. Both endings are good and bad for differing reasons. It's all about perspective. That's the fucking point.

simple maths
reddit.com/r/RecordThisForFree/comments/g5a6e8/game_ambitious_aa_game_project_looking_for_3/

then you just need to check his reddit username
reddit.com/user/Donpoko/
and his posts about his DMC runs
reddit.com/r/DevilMayCry/comments/b0s6j3/how_to_not_be_a_dead_weight_mission_20_dmd_no/

The Maellenerf already confirms it's not canon. Stop living in your dreamworld Maellefag

but enough about Maelle

It's literally just because the one opposing the Marche of this game is women/ Anon Babble is incredibly simple minded

They would have both made it...

It's also fucking genius from a marketing perspective because people will never stop fucking arguing about it.

our guy was the life of the game
still good overall

I fucking kneel

eternity hurts
youtube.com/watch?v=EyZaNx8T-fM

It's Red Pill vs Blue Pill. We will never know until we die.

Yeah painted power damage cap should have been set at like 99999 and only gradient attacks should have been allowed to go beyond that.

Retard the world being artificial doesn't mean the game couldn't have cared about the world and the fucking characters in it, the world is fake has been done so much better so many times

The story couldn't work with Gustave alive. He's too fun and he keeps Maelle too grounded. Verso is right, these faggots need to be as miserable as possible.

I don’t hear piano keys being played, Verso. Why is that?

Back to the piano, Verso.

They could have had some tact and transitioned to Maelle as main character

Then you’d be calling the game woke, DEI, buzzword, buzzword…

Cute of you to say that when Maelle is clearly showing caring for Gustave more to the point in one camp interaction Verso is show doing a seething voiced grumble after Maelle says she misses Gustave

Is it better to know an uncomfortable truth (Verso) or live in blissful ignorance (Maelle)?

Next playthrough I'm never using Verso and keeping him a virgin (And losing on purpose during the Monoco Duel).

The most gut wrenching death I recall in recent memory that I was completely unspoiled for, just stared at the screen in shock
That's exactly what they wanted to do, fuckers

The story couldn't work

The story doesn't work at all anyway

Verso's canvas
Verso's soul
Verso's decision

not a HINT of guilt is hanging over those sociopathic painter motherfuckers for subjecting their subjects to a century of drawn out genocide, it's all about their ego and family drama, they aren't people to them.
i want a story where they break out and murder all of those freaks. they don't have a single ounce of responsibility for what they do.

Ask the WRITERS to save everyone. Go Clea!

total wrigger death

Verso's decision

game Verso isn't the real Verso though

And the same people complain about Verso cucking them, no solution in sight

Renoir does, but he'd probably conduct a real world genocide for his family too if it came down to it

And the real Verso he wants to stop painting.

Your post is shitposting but made me thin in this.

sitting here literally right now watching a buddy beat the finale (I've seen it already)

I tired once to say that maybe the dad has a point and her killing herself to stay in the lala-land matrix is a bad idea

he tells me off like 'well aint that her choice to make?'

Liberalism is a brain parasite and I can't be convinced otherwise.

The real Verso is dead.
The soul is not him.

they want to destroy themselves anon
it would be fine if they weren't taking us down with them

Now what if all the outsiders left and all the Nevrons were erased, so his world went back to being beautiful, fun adventure land? I think he'd continue painting.

Should it start with Expedition 1? Why is it Expedition 33? Shouldn't it be Expedition 67

Who cares? The game was all in le head anyway

I wonder if there's something deeper with Gustave/Simon and Clea/Sophie, the game talks about cycles and seeing each other in the next life etc. The missing arm on both Gustave and Simon I feel alludes to that.

Why didn’t Gustave just cast a healing spell and jump off the cliff with Maelle?
Is he stupid?

Nah, the first event of anything typically begins with Zero. Patient Zero, Ground Zero etc.

She was trapped in the bubble and he didn't have enough ap to shoot the 3 locks

Erm... Let me guess... one is a shitty knock-off game that has one interesting plot twist is written for 12 yo kids(probably written by a mentally 12 yo too) and the other is probably the best RPG released in 2025 and probably the best RPG of the decade after Baldur's Gate 3?