Will you believe what the TV tells you?
Deltarune
If I see that fucking FRIEND one more time...
i personally believe in Cheshire friend
i want a smug asshole cat in town that ralsei is forced to deal.
So I was there when the newsletter released at 3:00 in the morning and went too deep screwing up the next day, but how have these threads been since? Deltarune threads.
he will be too lazy to cause trouble
any theory videos to use as background noise? finished the device theory and it sucked
I don't even watch tv
Toby cares about motifs that are actually important and that he intentionally put into his video game. Not surface-level patterns that schizos hallucinate and try to warp the whole game around.
He cares a lot about word play like anagrams, recurring words and phrases and double meaning, but what else does Toby care?
KILL YOUR TV
There's two FRIENDS
the one Noelle named after Catti (purple/Catti colored eyed friend) and a different FRIEND (the one with the pink eye)
Actually, I get the feeling someone else I know has seen it, but, I just know that even if I asked them, I probably wouldn't get a straight answer XP ugh...
There's nothing wrong with FRIEND, please be nice to him(or her)
or they/them
That's the only interesting criticism I've gotten so far. Why do you think that?
Because a huge point of the Asriel fight was that Chara was gone, and he needs to let go of her and move on. I feel this loses a lot of weight if Frisk is just Chara's reincarnated corpse that just went through a mental change. Having Asriel cry over Chara being gone while Chara is standing in front of him is weird.
Of course not. The man's a criminal, after all.
But what the fuck is FRIEND's endgoal?
qrd on the ARG thing they're doing right now?
Fashionable pink and yellow glasses. Greatly increases $ gained, and...?
Were gonna need the Dealmaker to see the cats is what im betting on.
i have had continued thoughts about this page and its implications.
to summarize everything i've thought so far,
almost certain: the page is an analogy for the weird route, 2 links to d.ogg which only plays there.
likely: given the rest of the sweepstakes, you'll need the shadow mantle for the weird routes of CH1 and CH3
theory:
character size is how many changes (you) need to make to actually set the route in stone
2 is the biggest because you need to derail a significant portion of the chapter to see an effect, freezing over a third of the chapter's encounters.
1 is the smallest because you only really need one tiny change
prediction: the shadow mantle will let you skip some part of susie's character growth, possibly by skipping the meeting with ralsei.
this one change, while miniscule, completely changes the way the chapter plays out and you cant really recover from it.
no ralsei to push susie away to join up with lancer
lancer likely left waiting for the heros too
susie left completely unchecked, both factors of her character growth have been removed from play
entirely possible that she just dashes off and you're left to run through completely empty fields. enemies killed and puzzled destroyed.
only to come across her desperately trying to attack the fountain at the end
chapter 2 completely fucked regardless of if susie joins or not
something has to change for the cap'n, sweet, and K_K fight since it relies on R and S acts. with only noelle and berdly there, they might end up becoming your chapter-long teammates instead. the dork squad
with susie, it'd be another empty field scenario. noelle and berdly's character growths stunted, queen could just die during her first encounter right at the beginning too.
help you through the dark
To take your PAIN away of course. That makes him stronger after all.
oops
Is that...tv man from skibidi toilet?????
I hope so, because I picked the dealmakers
SchroDINGer's Cat
WingDINGs
AAAAAAAAAAAHHH
I like the idea but there is no way Toby is going back to previous chapters to add content. He couldn't bother to add even the spare % feature to chapter 1.
FRIEND grows stronger as you feel pain
have to do a hyper jobber route and get hit in every fight
at the end of the game he comes in and one shots the titan for you
"wow FRIEND, you really are a friend!"
IT'S A LIE, A KISS WITH OPENED EYES
That would actually explain the "and...?" in Dealmaker's description. I always assumed it was alluding to the reward you get from beating all of the schizos, but neither of Jevil's items have an "and...?" in their description, so that doesn't really add up.
Alright motherfuckers, where is the art of Noelle as Alice Liddell and FRIEND as the Cheshire Cat?
How the fuck did people correctly guess that FRIEND is a cat with nothing implying that?
Even if I asked them I probably wouldn't get a straight answer
oh my god it just hit me, it's Kris
Kris has seen this fucking thing before we were even in the picture.
you get the shadow mantle from chaos king in chapter 1 by defeating king via pacifism, that's the only real change and it's an incredibly small one. it's the butterfly effect that changes chapter 3 and beyond.
He couldn't bother to add even the spare % feature to chapter 1.
completely meaningless since enemies only have immediate spare conditions.
and its better to slowly introduce elements rather than dogpile them on at once.
toby said during a stream of the game, while chaos king's cape flew away, and I quote
spoiler, cool mantle bro, end spoiler
in that same stream he said
spoiler, jockington grows a bear, end spoiler
filename.
deltarune.com
deltarune.com
Start here
Everyone was kind of tipped off by the cat/puppet element. I guess the Cheshire Cat smiling thing also helps.
Musical motifs
No examples needed, I hope
Phrases
"You are filled with Determination/a certain power," "Darker, darker," "But nobody came."
Imagery/symbols
Hearts, hands, (golden) flowers, the Delta Rune, phones, angels/wings
Ideas
Falling down, home, identity, "hopes and dreams," Determination
Just to give a few examples that are common to both games
also the thing appears in deltarune.com
along with the two things here
What if Gaster wasn't the one who drove Jevil and Spamton mad? It was his pet cats?
Number color represents the possibility of going off script, number size represents how much the chapter is affected by going off script.
Chapter 1 is dark and small because there is no weird route at all.
"Not Applicable"
Chapter 2 is light and big because the weird route is possible and the implications are huge.
"Applicable"
Chapter 3 is dark because there is nothing you can do to break the script, but it is big because the divergences in the weird route are big. "Not Applicable, but..."
Chapter 4 is light and small because you need to break the script in some way (otherwise the route is aborted), but it doesn't play out too differently from the normal game.
Chapter 5 is light and medium for the same reasons above, but to a higher degree.
the Cheshire cat association was way too obvious from the get go, even from day 1 when we found it I assumed that was the case.
sex with FRIEND
Woodybros how we coping
cat FRIEND is old, but how did people know?
How is a general allowed on Anon Babble
Cheshire cat smile
puppet/cat
the orange cat poster
We do know for a fact that the one giving Spamton his make-over was FRIEND, he mentions he was responsible for his transformation
But the one that gave him knowledge of the outside was def Gaster
"And...?" is alluding to the fact that it gives you 40% damage reduction against Puppet/Cat element attacks
Which will be useful if we have a real fight with FRIEND
Completely possible that the shadow mantle is obtainable within Chapter 3. The thief might even be Rouxls Kaard at work again.
Cheshire Cat
deduction my friend, I figured out that friend was a cat back in 2022 when the sweepstakes happened. the shared eye colour is an obvious clue they are connected somehow. spamton is being manipulated by somebody/something, so that entity is likely the manipulator. his elemental pair is puppet/cat. the entity is strongly reminiscent of the Cheshire cat from alice in wonderland.
the connected lines about vacationing to hell with burgerpants (who is a cat!) is also a major connection that honestly I don't have a solid explanation for yet. he could be the knight.
i would agree if not for /romb/.
it pretty clearly establishes that highlighting things in the sweepstakes = shadow mantle
if it was that easy chapter 1 and chapter 2 wouldn't have the shared hidden attributed. the initial impression is obviously going to be that both ch. 1 and ch. 3 can't be weird routed, and the puzzle will be figuring out the "but" that makes it possible.
I remember when people thought it was the fallen human. I guess everyone should've known better it was another Deltarune nod.
Gentlemen
Will you survive the boss rush?
That's wrong. One of the other guys quips "spoiler" because another one mentioned that King making peace is a ruse. Nothing to do with Toby's statement.
youtube.com
Friend doesn't show up in Jevil's prison (or anywhere in Chapter 1, for that matter) despite it also being located in some strange void like the mansion basement, so it seems more like Friend was involved with Spamton specifically.
shared hidden attributed
the what?
I had to cheat to beat Jevil so no, I'm beyond giving a fuck.
he still says "nice mantle bro"
We're kneeling to HyperdeathCHADS.
The better question is why is FRIEND so meta with its ingame filename (DEVICE_FRIEND)
Well with that kind of effect I can only assume we will face the cat sooner than later
Implying you aren't going to get jumped by both at the same time
I meant chapter 1 and 3 and the shared attribute is that they don't appear unless you highlight them.
Seems the smiling FRIEND from the chapter 2 basement is a cat of some sort born from an EGG, there may also be at least two of them lurking about.
Catti and Noelle are confirmed to be (or have been) at least good enough friends to hang out semi-frequently
Noelle went to therapy after some fucked up shit happened likely in relation to Dess's disappearance, the egg tree confirmed to somehow be connected to whatever happened.
There was also a secret mail registry discovered on the first night of the ARG that has yet to spit out anything of note since it was locked.
it's not connected to spamton, it's connected to noelle
Catti and Noelle are confirmed to be (or have been) at least good enough friends to hang out semi-frequently
How the fuck are people only having this confirmed now. Did they miss Noelle's ACT to pet a Tasque and how she mentions it's like petting Catti? Or Noelle saying she's going to go to Catti's house because she's locked out of her own again? Or Catti directly telling Kris to protect Noelle?
Seam says that Jevil went crazy after talking to "a strange someone."
When Spamton was contacted over the phone he became very successful, so he probably wasn't schizo yet. When the voice left him everything started going wrong, and before he was evicted from Queen's Mansion he would spend his time in the basement, "praying." That's when he made [[Communion]] with [[Unintelligible Laughter]].
"but what if it could... get darker than dark?"
Its way too obvious they are all talking about the Roaring with this, the Dark world isnt the deepest area. the creatures from the Darker World are the ones interfering and fucking with certain individuals of the Dark World within Deltarune. 100% certain Gaster is currently stuck within the Darker World too, this shit really is just taking from Omori, which frankly is fine by me.
Image_Friend. Stalking You since 2016 and across games. Not even Asriel does that.
I don't recall the Tasque ACT, but otherwise you shouldn't underestimate the ability of a UT/DR fan of not paying attention to the text.
Friend Inside Me was a cat
The most direct answer would be that Gaster created FRIEND to, well, be our friend. We're getting a pink-and-yellow cat-themed minigame in Castle Town, it seems pretty likely that FRIEND will be joining us.
The thing about [[Unintelligible Laughter]] is that it does also apply to Gaster because mus_smile, the sound effect we always associated with Gaster is just Muffet's laugh.
Literally a laugh warped and slowed so much you can't tell that's what it is.
Idk why but I thought this would be funny
The Cat's a friend
Wonderful!
GET READY FOR CAMELLIA TO BE A GUEST COMPOSER FOR A VERY, VERY SPECIAL HOUSE PET
I know, I know. Especially when it's Hometown walkaround stuff which I know a startling number of players just outright skip.
I suppose that's possible, since Noelle never goes into the closet or unused classroom Dark Worlds. But I always figured Friend was tied to deeper parts of the Dark World (or the "Deep Abyss", as Spamton calls it), and it's not like Noelle ever goes to the mansion basement, while we know that Spamton spent a lot of time there. I guess we'll see when/if Friend appears in other Dark Worlds.
So this will be console exclusive right
MUFFET CAMEO CONFIRMED
SPIDER FUCKERS WW@?
the sound effect we always associated with Gaster is just Muffet's laugh
It's not just Muffet's laugh. It's used by the Core enemies as a death sound effect.
We're not completely sure.
It'll MAYBE be on the Steam Deck if you have it.
No. It will have a console-exclusive control scheme for the Switch 2, but the room will be available on all platforms.
I turned myself into a cat, Kris!
I'm cat gaster! Get it?!?
the dark worlds draw from the character's imagination/psyche. noelle has some very dark repressed demons, which is why her stuff is so much more fucked up. friend is basically a subconscious trauma that seeped out and literally corrupted spamton.
was there anything to be found in the blank emails sent out
So, we made a very small SPECIAL ROOM which takes advantage of using MOUSE CONTROLS ON TWO CONTROLLERS AT ONCE, only possible on the Nintendo Switch 2!! You can see it in the trailer!!
But, don't worry! Even if you can't get your hands on a Nintendo Switch 2 right away, the other versions of the game also have THE SPECIAL ROOM, with a completely different control scheme! (To clarify, all non-Nintendo Switch 2 versions have the exact same content as each other.)
will sans stop winking at the camera and give us real info
It wouldn't be the first or last meta character that wants to be our friend.
What can you imagine that could still genuinely shock/unnerve you if it is depicted, but you think is inside the possibility of Toby including in the weird route?
no
So what is it about IMAGE_FRIEND for Gaster himself to consider them a "FRIEND"? What's so special about them?
Waves cane
Back in my day, this guy was named Mike.
It's true, Gaster and FRIEND are both associated with smiles, and laughter by extension. But FRIEND is who we directly hear laughter from in the "jumpscares" in the Spamton Sweepstakes pages, we can plainly see FRIEND in the basement, Spamton's glasses are FRIEND's eyes, and Spamton's element is Puppet/Cat.
why is the fandom so obsessed with this hypothetical cat
Did you miss the threads before Anon Babble were shitting them up and people were freaking the fuck out?
literally starved for content
+ furry fanbase
What if Sans and Papyrus know jack shit about Gaster and just found his weapons lying around in the lab, that would be the funniest plot twist.
I just got here. Were people speculating?
"Making Toriel kill people" is really boring and that seems to be people's go-to.
The scaring Noelle stuff is something that barely ever happens in good videogames.
"Escapism" has to be one of the most shallow, nothing-themes you can base your fiction on.
We have more information on him plus he is somehow even more plus he's been in the background all the way in Undertale.
You know, I was in doubt before but you know whats a dead giveaway to the SOUL of Kris being ours from Undertale? The Yellow Soul (shoot mode) is something that Alphys gives us through the cellphone. We somehow had that against Mettaton, use (player) brought it out, out of necessity. I bet the other soul powers we had (Jump and guard) will resurface at an hour of need.
CUP NIGGAS
WHERE YOU AT
*ahem*
gato
how do they make a cat so fuckable?
Was there any doubt? The soul is one of the very first thing you see in the intro and it was going to be placed in your vessel. Why would someone else's soul be in placed in the vessel?
Will he have a ____ attack?
Could have had a "factory reset" but its very clear its the same SOUL already having gone through Undertale.
They didn't make them that way, God did
more art has been made of a cat-thing (possibly) in the past 24 hours than actual cat characters have had in 7 years
i feel bad for cattifags
Goddamn, already?
a shittier amanojaku
FRIEND INSIDE ME?
More like, ME INSIDE FRIEND
What if this turns into new ammo for Gaster deniers, they're just gonna claim FRIEND is behind everything and Gaster still doesn't exist.
inb4 Gaster was split into like 50 cats
It's NIGGA CAT time right now
How many fuckin Gaster related cats do we need?
Youre comparing Meowscarada to Purugly, its just different
gaster broke the game through dwarf fortress catsplosioning
The rape allegory thing already felt like Toby was getting too close to crossing the line for what kind of stuff he makes nowadays, closer to what Radiation did but more classy.
What could shock me is more frequent, overt depictions of suffering, like Flowey's Genocide death or even all of Martlet's deaths in UTY.
It would also shock me if Noelle starts to enjoy killing, or becomes cold enough (ha) to do shit like pulling the plug on Rudy.
Another thing would be to do the opposite of UT's geno ending, where Kris/the player gets no punishment in the end.
inb4 Gaster was split into like 50 cats
Look, here's one now.
2FRIEND
LMAO 2FRIEND
Because one of the goners was holding a piece of him before vanishing in Undertale. These people are just really unreasonable.
We've got child therapy now. All bets are off.
He really might be the cat, it's not like we know yet. Or is gasters pet for all the niggerman memes.
Another thing would be to do the opposite of UT's geno ending, where Kris/the player gets no punishment in the end.
Another thing would be to do the opposite of UT's geno ending, where Kris/the player gets no punishment in the end.
...halloween hack...
we are once again fucking cats
thank god
I can't get over how Spamton is Puppet/Cat despite having nothing to do with cats aside from his eyes being the "cat colors." Maybe FRIEND can possess or influence people giving them its eye color? I don't know. I'm just throwing out ideas because I hope Spamton's cat association gets some kind of elaboration since it seems to be more than just a random non sequitur now
And here's another
What can you imagine that could still genuinely shock/unnerve you if it is depicted
The Cryptid shit that Toby is hinting at with the ARG. The "steps on the roof", the thing at the tree that required therapy for the kids. There is something out there in the Light World.
notice how people aren't drawing FRIEND as a fat blob
He's the puppet element
friend is the cat element
the next schizo will be ???/cat
they're just gonna claim FRIEND is behind everything and Gaster still doesn't exist.
We don't need to do that. FRIEND has nothing to do with Jevil. Gaster is still associated with phones and was still the one who contacted Spamton first, FRIEND just got to him later and made him into the mangy thing sleeping in a dumpster, like a stray cat.
Gaster and FRIEND are also still heavily related, we're seeing FRIEND in the "darker than dark" stuff.
Rather than pushing everything onto one suspect, people should get comfortable with the likely reality that Gaster has many smaller pieces in the game and is acting through them rather than doing anything directly himself. FRIEND and The Man Behind The Tree are just the two we've become familiar with so far.
god i fucking love temmie so much
This is one of my favorite movies ever and I find it kind of a shame that it has a somewhat shallow online reputation as just a "yuppie satire". Like, it is, but it's so much more interesting than that.
pre schizo spamton isn't shown to have pink/purple and yellow eyes so it's most likely that basement friend gave that to him, other addisons have similar eyes as well
Stitches on the right side of his face look like the weird fucked up smile has
Does this mean that Swatch lied to us about his looks?
I hope Mr Wingding was originally a cat monster. MysteryMan isn't supposed to be his original appearance, it looks like an egg, the piece of Gaster held by the Goner is also an egg. Gaster split across time and space into a bunch of eggs or egg-shaped objects and we have to re-assemble him.
but font skeleton
I'm 60% certain Papyrus and Sans are test tube babies
The player is quite frankly boundless and nonpunishable in UT setting. Players can and will destroy the contact with the fallen human for their soul even if the game fights for it to stay.
To be fair, its because its not his eyes that are colored, its his glasses, the "Dealmaker" that made him rich to begin with. His first contact was the cat, not Gaster. Cat might still be Mike.
I doubt that because Jevil has nothing to do with cats at all.
That's the impression I'm getting, but it feels weird to have a second character be manipulating Spamton somehow alongside Gaster
I mean I have, I just haven't posted it.
I do not think it's necesarily gaster, gaster is BEHIND all this but it's likely only friend fucked over him like how the knight fucked over jevil
Well to be fair that contract isn't for the Player's Soul, it's for Frisk's to use them as a new Vessel to escape the underground.
Cat might still be Mike.
He's definitely split into a lot of pieces, that was always true
So the people we give the eggs to are Temmie in chapter 2, and Asgore's fridge in chapter 1
Temmie still knows you got the egg from chapter 1
We're putting humpty dumpty back together again
me after toriel sits on my face for an hour
The rape allegory thing already felt like Toby was getting too close to crossing the line for what kind of stuff he makes nowadays
I still find it funny how the mainstream fandom contorts itself into knots to avoid acknowledging this, while the pornbrained side of the fandom got it immediately.
Nah, the garbage noise doesn't really leave much room for doubt, and it parralels Gaster's contact with Jevil. Gaster was in contact with Spamton.
FRIEND
INSIDE
ME
You now remember that Noelle's dialogue for trying to equip the Dealmakers is that they seem familiar
I NEED TO KNOW TOBY
WAS DELTARUNE ALL A PROXY DOGS VS CATS WAR?
WAS THIS YOUR FEVER DREAM?
Jevil doesn't have a FRIEND entity either
but the new FRIEND sprite has a purple eye, inplying it's a separate FRIEND
yeah but
66
same sound effect plays when you talk to the goner holding the only confirmed piece of gaster so far
grandpa semi
aaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
THIS IS WHY SEAM IS THEY/THEM
THEY'RE LITERALLY TWO NIGGAS
I still find it funny how the mainstream fandom contorts itself into knots to avoid acknowledging this
I do not think this is true. People even complain that any Kriselle shipping is "problematic" on some other sites.
you DO fiend purple FRIEND in cat petterz so that solves that
WHY DOES SEAM TELL US TO NOT BE CAUGHT OUTSIDE AT NIGHT
FRIEND INSIDE ME
FRIEND INSIDE ME
FRIEND INSIDE ME
FRIEND and the voice on the phone are both coming from "Gaster."
FRIEND jumpscares you on the "darker than dark" page with the chair.
Spamton's phone was connected to the "garbage noise," which is the background noise of ENTRY NUMBER SEVENTEEN where Gaster was experimenting with darkness.
They're both from "the abyss"
I think we are misunderstanding this. THE CAT IS EVIL, but his actions are not. He abandoned Noelle because he was filled with happiness, what he sought was pain. He found Spamton at the bottom, he made his life better because he fed off his PAIN. Once Spamton could no longer give him any PAIN, he abandoned him. Spamton got one last call before he fucked off the Queen's Castle and according to his co-worker it was static noise.
Essentially:
The cat gave him his transformation into a successful smiley good businessman
Tenna ruined Spamton (he blames Tenna for everything that happened to himself)
His last caller was Gaster, which gave him awareness of the world beyond the Dark World
Look I get the whole bit Toby was doing with Seam's name but jesus it is a terrible name I hate it so much
yeah
Jevil doesn't have a FRIEND entity either
I know? That's what I was saying
but the new FRIEND sprite has a purple eye, inplying it's a separate FRIEND
I assume it was a design change just because because that would just be dumb, but obviously i can't just rule it out
25 days of pure agonizing cat discussion
Because it's fun!
Was there any conclusive discovery about "how long it took her to smile"?
every they/them is at least two niggas
except for Napstablook, they're not special fuck that ghost
I like his humble little Seap ha ha
Spamton experienced a lot of PAIN
"General" isn't a codeword for
Thread about something I don't like
Don't worry, even the administration gets this concept wrong.
I mean yeah, I don't think there's much solid evidence connecting him to Gaster yet, but most weird and mysterious things in these games are so he probably is
mus_smile is 80 seconds long but nobody answered that
I think the Seam Seap is one of the best little verbal puns in anything he's made. I feel sorry for those industrious little Japanese fellows who don't receive it.
It shows he has meta awareness.
It's suspicious, he knows his dialogue is read through text, no one's supposed to be aware of that.
catpetterz is all about cats hatching from eggs.
friend is a "rare cat"
reconstructing gaster will be impossible, some of the eggs have already hatched.
Nobody guessed it correctly, if there was even a correct answer.
Either that or the secret email landed in someone's spam folder and will never ever be discovered.
what's all this about noelle going to therapy? i've messed around with the cat clicker but couldn't figure out what to do after drawing the tree
He lost most of the special touch he used to have with names. King and Queen don't have names for some reason, Tenna is so fucking basic.
did i speedread the new content? whats this about therapy for kids from something at a tree? did toby copy off of omori again
in some pages it says something about a forest and the kids going to therapy, it ponders how long it took her to smile
no one's supposed to be aware of that.
Rouxls Kaard did the same thing
(pronounced Rules)
It's also possible someone fucked up and it got sent to holidaygirl1225 at gee mail
I don't think there's much solid evidence connecting him to Gaster yet
Anon it's called DEVICE_FRIEND
The only way it could be more blatantly Gaster-y is if it was greyscaled
one day toby woke up and went "hmm, enough earthbound. today i feel like playing some twisted metal black" and i am all for it
snigger
I know that, I just f igured why have Anon Babble as a board if people will just have generals here.
Probably therapy for Noelle, Kris and Asriel after Dess went missing
You gotta look at the page headers.
grandpa semi
This one's actually dubious canon. Unlike the FUN events there's no way to stumble into that information from playing the game.
He might actually be a scrapped character that became inspiration for Gaster.
A lot of the files with similar naming conventions seem related to Gaster.
DEVICE_CONTACT - part of the Chapter 1 intro.
AUDIO_DARKNESS - Chapter 1 game over with Gaster's leitmotif and after he speaks to you.
IMAGE and DEVICE_FRIEND are like that, (DEVICE_FRIEND just being the object IMAGE_FRIEND is assigned to)
What fucking rape allegory? What?
where do you find those? i've gotten egg and rain and messed around on the numbers page but never figured out what to do there
there's no way to stumble into that information from playing the game.
same thing for Entry 17
He might actually be a scrapped character
exactly
Oh yeah, I forgot about the file name stuff. I already assumed he was probably connected to Gaster anyway, but yeah, that's pretty solid evidence.
it IS most likely prototype gaster
silence ending sweepstakes page and you just go clicking shit
three Children (unspecified) got lost in a forest
they had to take therapy
during therapy they sketch a tree (exactly the same one as the easter egg ones)
One of the inquiries asks how long it took her to smile
we know from Deltarune itself there is a man we cannot see behind the tree that gives you an egg
He probably is, grandpasemi.ogg is the intro to Metal Crusher, which could tie him to the Lab.
I could see an outline where Semi and (at that early point in development, male) Alphys were co-workers in the Lab, maybe Semi worked on Mettaton while Alphys handled the DT experiments.
And then they merged that part into Alphys and Semi lost his place.
Also fits with Alphys replacing Gaster as Royal Scientist.
i must not have paid enough attention to the draw page because it says poor children and therapy
still don't know where to find the friend though
Anon is being dramatic about the romantic/possessive overtones in Snowgrave
This ends in an Undertale weird route.
Speaking of dubious canon, I hope we at least get to see what this sprite was supposed to be one day
you were supposed to speak with him instead of alphys according to data from one of the demos
It was *[redacted]
guy slowly backs girl into wall while she begs him to stop
fade to black
This is Gaster before he went bald and he had long flowing hair.
But you ARE going to kill your TV right?
beta gaster before fubby reworked him entirely
I don't think gaster can be such a pivotal part of the plot for the simple fact most people playing the game don't know who he is, the game would need to fully introduce and explain him first. My take is he can't take a direct role, but schizos endlessly pouring through all the minute details can find his fingerprints.
Scribble Toby made in two minutes
It's basic assumption basing on a couple of the new pages and the fact of Dess' mysterious disappearance:
deltarune.com
deltarune.com
deltarune.com
I'm sparing everyone except Tenna in my first playthrough.
Guys, I just saw this while walking around town!
like samson in reverse. i feel that, buddy
Spamton when ImportantMailPound walks in
Gaster is not too important, but not too unimportant
You can't observe him directly, you can only observe the effect he has on things around him
I hate that I only noticed the large pizza coupon months after I wrote my Grandpa Semi theory.
what theory?
I still think Gaster is somehow related to Asgore and Toriel
most people playing the game don't know who he is,
they'll learn about it from Social Media™, the intended way to play DELTARUNE. (laughs)
we'll get our due when the chapters are out and catti gets a whole chapter of characterization and a cool boss fight.
we wadanohara now
These are all on deltarune.com , just add the page after that for the urls
/sweepstakes/ is the main hub everything branches off of, you can find it all exploring from there, but for the new stuff:
/egg/ has a new link from "secret cats" which takes you to
/rain/, a new page. "try it yourself" links to
/rarecats/, a minigame thing, click cats until you get a winged one, which makes a window appear. click the window for
/windows/, which is a long page of windows, each link is a jumble of words but only one goes to a real page
/lostwheretheforestwouldgrow/ has a tree, click it a bit to get to
/window/, which looks like the earlier page but this time the links are just jumbled letters, the right one is
/thepoorchildren/, scribble around on this page until a tree appears and the link takes you to
/egg/. This is from earlier, but go ahead to the "sign my guestbook" link to go to
/code/ - this is also from before, but now if you click the period on the first line after "bunch of weird links" to get taken to
/chapter1/ There's no links on this page, but if you extrapolate you can get
/chapter2/
/chapter3/ (hold your keyboard's left arrow on this page) - this one is also linked from /sweepstakes/ down at the bottom where it says what's next
/chapter4/ has a dot in the middle, click it for
/chapter4/message/ which looks like the same page except there's a lot of hidden links at the bottom that go to either e.mp3 or m.mp3, they're actually arranged like a QWERTY keyboard and if you take all the m links you get the letters tyuoahkn or "thankyou"
/chapter4/thankyou/ used to have a couple of fields to input your email and a guess but that's gone
/chapter5/ has 5 numbers on it, 1 is tiny and hidden but isn't a link, 2 links to a song clip, 3 links to a sound effect, 4 links to /chapter4/, 5 links to a guitar song clip
on /sweepstakes/silence/ the what's next link goes to
/ramb/ , this is old too but now the curtained area is a link to
/romb/
14 pages
sans theme plays despite sans being nowhere there
We will meet Gaster in the Weird route.
The linear pathway leads the heroes of light to fight the ANGEL
The weird pathway leads the heroes to fight the TITANS
During the Weird route, The Darker than Dark will take over the Dark World, which will result in its inhabitants being petrified
When everything seems lost, Gaster is the one that will assist us, having emerged alongside the Darker than Dark
We barely know what Flowey is up to at first and he is the single most important character in the game.
I tested the character size of the spaces in deltarune.com
The word has to be 4 characters in english
The word has to be 3 characters in japanese
Furthermore, on the japanese page for "romb" (which you can see by replacing .com with .jp" there is an additional omitted word, which happens to be the verb right after the first omitted word. They omitted a verb, likely not to reveal some context and keep things vague.
The omitted verb seems to be 2 characters long
I theorize the word might be "ring", which is spelled ゆびわ or リング in japanese, precisely 3 characters long. There are other possibilities but this is the only one that sticks out to me.
It would be extremely funny to have him suddenly show up at a critical point in the main story and every normal player goes "who the fuck?" and every schizofan is like "yo it's Gaster!"
Genoslide faggotry for Deltarune
Again
I really wish you guys would have stayed dead with the Survey Program.
My brother in christ it's the Shadow Mantle that Seam told us we need to beat the next schizo and get his Shadow Crystal.
That's why it says No ___, No Crystal.
pretty sound theory
Snowslide bros we are so back
Nah hes on to something, if it ISNT the shadow mantle then Ring (thorn ring) would make alot of sense
>Genoslide faggotry for Deltarune
Weird Route =/= Genocide
Gaster is gonna help us with an experiment, as Entry 17 implies. The Roaring sounds too important that it wont come up at any point in time.
Nigger, why would there be such an arbitrarily sized space for the word? You think Toby would fuck with you like that? What kind of ARG does this to its players?
You're making a very big mistake assuming this mysterious message is talking about the Shadow Mantle.
what about "cape" in Japanese
I just know Toby peeks at these threads to get a laff.
why would there be such an arbitrarily sized space for the word?
Starwalker
You need STARWALKER to survive the Chapter 3 bossrush
thanks, i found a couple of these on my own from yesterday's threads but i couldn't figure out /chapter4message/ and /thankyou/
i guess for the therapy stuff i didn't pay attention to the headers and just got confused when i was kicked back to egg
The cat animation tells me he's definitely browsed the chans before
Anon Babble invented cat animations
You need to stop thinking of gaster as a “secret” undertale character returning in deltarune. Start thinking if him as a deltarune character that was teased in undertale
The "is that real" meme looks just like the dancing cat Toby made
It's true, we're very proud of our accomplishments.
Like a chef and a house he built
and not "tl;dr eat shit faggots"?
Anon Babble invented cats.
Before Anon Babble we only had these things called dogs and then we invented the duck, but we had to roll them around everywhere so finally we invented the cat.
Maybe that too
But everyone said faggot back then. And it's kind of coming back anyway
you idiots
cats invented themselves
You guys think I'm crazy but someone literally made a sneed edit of it earlier
yes
proof?
THIS CAT IS PISSING ME OFF
Proceeds to obliterate FRIEND
I'M THE ORIGINAL STARWALKER
What did humanity even do with itself before Anon Babble invented cat memes, I'm pretty sure I just rolled in the dirt in front of my house as a young boy before the internet, it was all we had in those dark times
Every secondary is well-versed on Gaster lore through all the youtube essays and such. It's not some secret thing for true connoisseurs only, neither is Genocide route, neither will be Weird route. In fact, most likely it will be quite opposite, people who never played the game will latch onto some memorable element from it to the point that it will become the symbol of the game in public consciousness, like it happened with Sans fight and Megalovania.
of course he did
Then my boss, uh, saw me and asked me what I was doing.
I was so startled, the hamburgers in my pockets tumbled out onto the ground.
Not wanting to lose face, I scrambled to pick them up!
But, as I was leaning over, the weight of the remaining hamburgers...
... caused my pants to fall down.
Then the girls laughed at me.
Everyone calls me Burgerpants now.
wtf is that real
anon, he made the core and the dt machine
back in my day we used to go to the roman bath houses and enscribe our shitposts on the walls
or we'd go to the beaches and carve them into the cliffs
and you'd get a response every 50 years or so
those were the days......
LOST WHERE THE FOREST WOULD GROW
What can we gleam from Image_Friend's valentine card?
2016
?
For some reason this reminds me of JiLJiL by the Cave Story guy youtube.com
Why would this be FRIEND?
That's Gaster Deltarune, he's in the Bunker.
Deltarune is a game between two Gasters and we're just a pawn.
But... a pawn of which one?
Through the darkness of future's past,
The magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds...
"Fire... walk with me."
We lived among the people.
I think you say, convenience store.
We lived above it.
I mean it like it is... like it sounds.
I too have been touched by the devilish one.
Tattoo on the left shoulder...
Oh, but when I saw the face of God, I was changed.
I took the entire arm off.
My name is MIKE.
His name is BOB.
seeing this after the sweepstakes expansion only reinforces the cheshire friend idea for me
this letter screams of "smiling smug cat bastard" to me.
Noelle anguish face reminds me of good ol fat bastard rape doujin
yellow pp
Kris that's not the cat I was expecting you to fuck but *Proceed.
there's more
tfw no Deltarune doujin where Kris is some big fat ugly bastard ojisan after going through so many timeloops he evolved into the next stage of the Hentai protagonist look.
the correct hole
nice
it's not even posted on newgrounds yet
The owls are not what they seem
a FRIEND is fine too
why anal?
too fucking big to insert?
Well for starters, Gaster doesn't speak like this. He also usually talks in all caps or wingdings. This is clearly from a new character and I've concluded that it was imagie_friend that's been observing us since Undertale released. I'm 300% sure the person he's talking about is Noelle.
anal
gay
you're right, undertale gaster doesn't talk like this
but we haven't met his deltarune counterpart yet
What if every Schizo has a specific "Friend" connected to them?
Jevil has Seam, and Spamton has the cheshire looking guy in the shadows.
anal
straight
anal
BASED
Noelle has Catti....
UNLEASH THE DOE
Here's a fun fact you might not know about.
Open the Steam page for Deltarune and set your language to Japanese. Now go check what the FAQ says about chapter 3-4.
Wrong, it's Mike.
naaah do it for me bruv
If Toby is here he better tell that guy to stop telling people Ralsei is based on a dead kid or else
Dark World
yellow pp
Thinks Its Kris
TOBY YOU NIGGER GIVE US SOME SUSIE/NOELLE STRAIGHT CONTENT OR LET US DO SOMETHING IMPLICATING WITH THE MILF ROBOTS
THESE NIGGAS ARE SO STARVED THEY WANT TO FUCK THE CAT
anon, spamton is literally a puppet, the cat is feeding him a script.
I'M GOING TO FUCK BOTH CATTI AND SUSIE AND YOU CAN'T STOP ME
Please do not the Friend
Wing DinG vs Aster
FAQ
Chapter 1と2では、イヌをナデナデできますか?
(笑)いいえ。次の質問どうぞ。
Chapter 3と4では、イヌをナデナデできますか?
(笑)いいえ。前の質問どうぞ。
Chapter 1と2では、イヌをナデナデできますか?
(笑)いいえ。次の次の質問どうぞ。
Chapter 3と4では、ネコをナデナデできますか?
(笑)… … …(怒)答えるわけないでしょッ!!
friend inside me
I would like to the Friend though
MILF ROBOTS
TM is a prime auntie you dumbass
We can pet the dog?
THE dog?
What is a secondary?
have we really reached the point where the current audience is not aware robert posted about undertale on Anon Babble when it was still a demo and even joked about how Anon Babble would flip on it if it became popular
He also posted in /agdg/ too back in the day
Did he change the text for Papyrus?
Meet new and endearing main characters, as well as familiar faces like Toriel, Sans, as more. Huh? Papyrus? No, he's busy. Sorry
Source for posting about Undertale on Anon Babble?
more fucking cat references
laying it on thick huh
Least degenerate Undertale Anon Babble thread poster
Wait is Gaster a cat? Or is he a deer? Where are we in the theoryschizohole?
Maybe the real Gaster was the friends inside us along the way
erm source?? can i get a source???
just use the archive. i don't really care if you believe me or not.
Something about petting the dog and cat?
Gaster is an Uboa that grew a bunch of hands and a body.
The demo came out on 2013 and the archives don't go that far back
a very minimal elaboration on a smiley face that appears for half a second in the game elicits genuine hype
Literally how the fuck does Toby do it? This man can effortlessly decide blue circles are called Pipis and it works.
i don't really care if you believe me or not.
Ok then, I won't.
gaster is a skeleton, he follows the sans/papyrus naming convention.
also personal speculation but I really don't think sans is sans' real name, I think it's a pseudonym. unlike papyrus, he talks with a different font and gaster's double spacing when he's being a serious boy, and gets the default font during the asriel fight.
why do we think it's a cat? just the cheshire cat association and the rarecats game?
very summarized
can you pet dogs in chapters 1 and 2?
haha no
can you pet dogs in chapters 3 and 4?
haha no
can you pet cats in chapters 3 and 4
haha I'm not fucking answering that
reminder that the font sans' "Z"s are in is called Aster
His sprite's filename in the minigame is cat-009.
Paraphrased
Can you pet a dog in Chapters 1 and 2?
(laughs) No. Next question.
Can you pet a dog in Chapters 3 and 4?
(laughs) No. Previous question.
Can you pet a dog in Chapters 1 and 2?
(laughs) No. Next next question.
Can you pet a cat in Chapters 3 and 4?
(laughs)... ... ... ... (angrily) I won't answer that!
Proof that Sans and Papyrus weren't test tube babies though?
reminder that toby uses the exact same Z's for pacified darkners
wait really what the fuck
Another thing would be to do the opposite of UT's geno ending, where Kris/the player gets no punishment in the end.
Toby will be the biggest hack in the universe if he actually does that. It will be on par with those cheap rugpull endings where creator just goes "nope, sorry, everything you did was completely pointless, boy you sure must feel stupid now!". just with polarities reversed.
that's it? I thought it was 40, toby you liar
He will follow the steps of his master then
:^)
why
not just darkners but in general
was here when the thankyou page still worked
didn't think to put my email in even if I had no idea what to guess
FUCK I wont get the exclusive "bullshit guesser" badge on my save file
There was a lot of cat related stuff in chapter two. There should be something of a cat thing soon.
14 new pages. There were 26 pages at the end of the Spamton Sweepstakes originally, so 26 + 14 = 40
40 is the total including the old pages.
I was deployed when the original was happening, how did the original 26 ARG go?
straight susie/noelle
How would that work? Futa on female?
the colors pink and yellow seem to be strongly associated with cats (which is probably another cheshire cat reference)
where this from tho
the ARG
SUSIE/NOELLE STRAIGHT CONTENT
They're gay anon, you have to let it go
USELESS FUCKING NIGGER
this one? Or the old one? I only jumped on the UT/DR train like 6 months ago so I ahve no idea how that went.
But what if he's so lazy as to cause trouble? Hmm?
The most recent one
What are the odds of image_friend species of cat is based on the Japanese Mi-Ke aka the Japanese Bobtail?
it's cats all the way down
I meant with either of them
we can still Doe break Noelle in snowgrave. I can feel it in my bones. Just wait for chap3. Trust the plan
where tf u people getting it all I get are random cats and dogs sleeping.
I'm still betting on this being The Man, not FRIEND
The characterization doesn't quite fit Gaster but everything else hits all the Gaster-isms, it has to be someone very close in nature to him
a "strange" letter
writing is completely illegible
explicitly refers to Delta Rune, the video game
inexplicably disappears
"A sound like something walking away" also doesn't really fit a cat-creature manifesting from the void
LOOK AT THE URL ANON
there's a bunch of words scrambled, just try to shuffle them around to make a coherent sentence
NOELLE HAS A HUGE COCK
SUSIE HAS A HUGE COCK
we can still Doe break Noelle in snowgrave.
Noelle and Susie literally fuck on that route
wtf is this shit, a rip off undertale?
eyelashes
It really is that easy huh
damn
GCAT
Yes
if you're at the windows look for the egg
Because the whole point of genocide was you getting your just desserts. You played in a way that completely missed the point of the game, so you were rewarded with shit gameplay and shit creepypasta-tier jumpscare ending.
I haven't read epilogues, but Homestuck ending wasn't a rugpull. There wasn't anything fundamentally wrong with its idea, they just botched execution hard.
wake me up when there's a new game faggots
always has been
are there any other required readings for the newsletters other then spamton sweeps? wasn't there some QnA from the game characters?
The game's story is divided into multiple chapters that have been released gradually; its first and second chapters were released for free in October 2018 and September 2021 respectively, and the next two chapters are scheduled for a paid release on June 5, 2025.
paid release
PAID SHILLS
post-scratch undertale actually
schizo-sama... PLEASE spare us...
pre-scratch*
wasn't there some QnA from the game characters?
Were you thinking of this?
toby.fangamer.com
toby.fangamer.com
Grillbys sign says otherwise
en.wikipedia.org
The tricoloured, Mi-Ke (pronounced 'mee keh') is known as the luckiest colour for this breed.
Come fucking on Toby.
Regarding Gaster, it made me think of this:
As I was going up the stair
I met a man who wasn’t there!
He wasn’t there again today,
Oh how I wish he’d go away!
When I came home last night at three,
The man was waiting there for me
But when I looked around the hall,
I couldn’t see him there at all!
Go away, go away, don’t you come back any more!
Go away, go away, and please don’t slam the door…
Last night I saw upon the stair,
A little man who wasn’t there,
He wasn’t there again today
Oh, how I wish he’d go away…
im really starting to see why spamton went insane with the level of schizophrenia we're hitting
All the links are still available on the site, anything that's not romb and rarecats or gated behind those is old stuff, just click around.
What's in the bunker?
wake me up when there is more cat porn
I don't think we can quite count on Sans to have a reliable directionality in time.
I think people should pay more attention to the unused stuff he shares, mainly the unused tracks.
Then why Flowey is in the game?
FRIEND appeared to Noelle in Cat Petterz as an ultra-rare cat that makes you lose instantly
it's unlucky
it's a black cat
He can't keep getting away with it
Gaster is so meta textual he can drive people crazy IRL
going waking UP leads you towards the light and hope
going falling DOWN leads you towards the darkness and despair
jevil was down in the dungeon
spamton was down in the basement
gaster was down in the bunker
"Shattered across time and space" means pieces of him ended up breaching into reality and taking residence in our minds.
black beings should be servant to light beings
black beings give bad luck
big nosed salesman and TV host will try to fuck with you
What is going on with Toby?
What was her major malfunction?
We yay or nay on Umineko comparisons?
Gaster tulpa
trying too hard
She's a lesbian
aren't you faggots supposed to be on tumblr?
He just can't help but give everything in his setting quadruple meanings plus more.
yeah Toby's trying too hard this time, I agree
Too much PAIN
kek
nay
who dis
get back to onlyfans m8
Why doe?
cat theory
(1/4)
Wasn't it implied that Papyrus was who gave him that ribbon? I definitely remember mr. tall skeleton saying something about matching red accessories with someone.
Suffocating and frustrated
Did you know that Anon Babble has report function?
Wasn't it implied that Papyrus was who gave him that ribbon?
Exactly. This explains how Flowey got into Deltarune universe in the first place - you thing ol' Paperweight would leave his realginary friend behind?
wanted but couldn't fuck her sister.
Its Temmie Chang.
*her mother
Bro if u gonna do AI strip shit, at least make sure it's actually good. Look at that thumb blending into the waist, disgusting.
Pacifistbros get the dino
Snowgravy get DYKED
Imagine the seethe, unfortunately I don't expect to be able to stop the Tobanzai Foxy lesbianning with anything short of Chara nuking the universe again.
why not both.gif
Why haven't you killed yourself yet
aigenerated trash
Imagine playing undertale, where the good ending requires you to make sure the lesbians get together and one of the minibosses is literally gay porn, and getting upset at DR having lesbians too.
>Pacifistbros get the dino
>Snowgravy get DYKED
I think the implication, along with the dialogue options bashing Susie that just make Noelle hornier, is that you can't stop the lesbians from happening
So how likely are further Alice in Wonderland references? Chapter 1 definitely had it in spades (hah) along with Scarlet Forest feeling a hell of a lot like an Alice in Wonderland theme. And now we're apparently getting a Cheshire Cat.
Cell after voring Temmie.
the reason kris has been resetting the timeline is so that he can finally get in susie's pants
getting upset at DR having lesbians too
We're not getting upset over the fact that they are lesbians. We are upset that Toby is trying to push together two characters who have no chemistry between each other.
I didn't mind Rosemary in Homestuck
Do you think Toby Fox read Otherside Picnic? Should that also be required reading?
two characters who have no chemistry between each other.
Lol lmao, we've barely seen them interact and they're already super cute. It's clear Noelle has a crush on Susie from before, we'll probably get to see why.
I still can't get over how the 'Roaring' will unleash the 'Titans'
wokeshit confirmed
Undertale... UNDERTALE AND DELTARUNE ARE WOKE?
Because her mother beats her up, you idiot, that's why she wets herself over a thought of large woman abusing her.
they're already super cute
Go back to r/deltarune
Personal theory: The 'roaring' will be one of the kids pulled into the dark world crying, and 'titans' will just be adults coming in to crash the party.
Ending of DR will reveal it was all very immersive LARPing
The earth? A living being with a SOUL.
The titans? "yeah alright fuck these niggas they keep ripping into my soul"
NTA but I think they're fine together, or at least not slash-my-wrists-and-jump-off-a-bridge horrible like some people here seem to feel
Them both being main characters means that they'll hopefully have more meaningful gameplay interactions as the story progresses
That's just it though. People already didn't care for Alphys/Undyne and I remember a lot of people consider that dating scene to be the low point in the game's writing. Meanwhile with Deltarune you've got people who actually want to see Kris succeed with Susie and see YET ANOTHER over televised lesbian relationship they don't care for.
and they're already super cute
You are devoid of good taste.
Good thing you can go LEFT and fight them early
Go back to r/deltarune
Sadly for u I don't use reddit, I am merely a yurifag myself. And game recognizes game, Toby is a peak yurifag too.
yfw toby doesn't gives us more background on Susie in Ch3&4
because [HEADCANON]
Done.
its over
You do understand Noelle/Kris or Susie/Kris is still schrodinger's gay, right? Kris has no gender.
It's insane how pretty much every other combination between those kids is more entertaining to watch than suselle.
Kris/Susie?
10/10, no notes.
Susie/Ralsei?
Cute as fuck and they actually have chemistry together.
Kris/Noelle?
You can go with the fluffy childhood friends reconciling route or the Snowgrave abusive marriage one. Either way, it's fucking peak.
And I can keep going.
why are you faggots on Anon Babble
Alphys/Undyne dating scene was mostly cringe until the end where Undyne dunks Alphys into a garbage can to give her a pep-talk then has a breakdown about anime not being real.
I think I like Susie/Noelle just a bit more because their relationship is going to be more fleshed out and Noelle isn't as annoying as Alphys
The vast majority of the fandom likes Undyne/Alphys and Susie/Noelle
You guys should have made a Deltasnoot game while you had the chance
I was here first, you dumb zoomie
Fave
I've been here since before being a faggot and I did not leave after becoming one. Such is the way of life.
Undertale is prolly a big reason why I became one really.
I'd like some Oz and Narnia references too
Yeah but at least those two ships are compelling outside of OMG LESBIANS!!!1!!
It's almost like people actually like the relationship and don't give a fuck about whether or not it's gay.
(Also loads of people think of Kris as male because Toby doesn't know how to convincingly write so that you could interpret him otherwise)
Which character made you realize?
It's the only place where I can discuss this game while saying faggot and nigger, calling Kris a he, and saying I want to fuck the lesbian doe
Let me guess. Were you an Asrielfag?
You guys are so annoying
Noelle x Catti is the best ship
It was Alphys. Yes, it confuses even me to this day.
femanon
show tits or get out
Huh. Well, it's not like I can't see the appeal.
It would be amazing if we end up learning that Catti is like that in this universe because the situationship she had with Noelle went to shit after Dess disappeared (probably), and she doesn't have Bratty around.
You guys are so obnoxious
Pizzapants x The Warrior is the best ship
...anon. Catti and Catty are different characters.
I just consulted the porn gods.
There are nine pages of pics on paheal containing both tags for Susie and Noelle.
There are 27 pages of pics on paheal containing both tags for Kris and Susie.
Fucking Undyne was right there, I seriously hope you have better taste with Noelle/Susie now
First day?
the end of the game is going to reveal that kris always had a vagina but felt really awkward about it since toriel made them sleep in the same room as asriel
Catti and Catty are different characters.
I'm not really mad there's lesbians, but I wouldn't mind if all those decisions about liking Susie impacted the game. If Kris is some SOULless weirdo freak they/them creature could they not be considered a lesbian? I don't see why they don't deserve to find love.
Because Toby is/was here.
Y'all are missing the obvious Kris/Noelle/Susie thruple. It would literally fix all of your problems.
triangles only work if all members love each other and we have very explicit confirmation that neither Kris nor Noelle feel like that for each other
I'm not gonna call it that but you are correct
Anon...
Susie is unironically a harem protagonist.
Forget the ARG or whatever the fuck the rest of Ch3 or 4 will bring, this is the shingle most brainshattering revelation for me yet.
The thing about Gaster is that there’s not even any guarantee he’ll be involved in the plot outside of meta-textual stuff and fan theories.
I am merely a yurifag
the only justification he can give for hooking two characters together is "they look cute"
Figures. Yuri is the most shit-tier fetish out there.
How the fuck didn't you know about this until now? Were you walking around Hometown with your eyes closed?
While there’s no evidence of him ending up as a character in the story, i guarantee the events of the story are because of him
You know the funniest part? Kris/Susie and Kris/Noelle are technically more "progressive" pairings as far as fandom at large is concerned. If any of those actually happen, the meltdown will be absolutely glorious, it may even cause a civil war in fandom between people crying about "muh straightwashing" and "HIS PRONOUNS ARE THEY/THEM" crowd.
HOW MANY FUCKING TIMES DO I NEED TO REMIND YOU?
Want me to yurifag for real? Aight anon, sure.
The fact that Noelle finds Susie hot has been hinted at since chapter 1, when the questions related to Susie all have the romantic undertones to them. (I played Deltarune on releasse day, when it was a 'survey', and I thought it'd be a demo for a game but it kept going and I played for like 5 hours straight, missing sleep and all).
This began the Noelle/Susie shipping way before Ch2 came out, and if you answered that Susie eats chalk Noelle begins ch2 by giving her a box of chalks. Susie doesn't have Noelle in her radar but Noelle clearly does.
Regardless of theories about Noelle's mother being abusive and why Noelle likes Susie or whatever (Which could ultimately be true or not, it's irrelevant to the ship for now), their interactions during Chapter 2 are just that, cute. Susie just acts like she usually does, but Noelle specifically is constantly getting flustered around her. When the room thing happens and they get into the love wheel thing, the whole scene in general is actually rather well written.
Susie is clearly mostly unaware of the feelings Noelle has for her, seems to merely take it as a friendship thing, but Noelle is quite literally living a dream. Part of the appeal of the ship is that one-sided pinning one day turning around, with the love ride being a first step. Susie accidentally revealing she has a small tail to Noelle is also a great bonding moment. Tiny secrets revealed are the epitome of relationship writing.
The ship isn't 'forced' because it has only just begun. The reason we like it so much is all the potential, which to be honest, could still be flushed down the toilet in the next few chapters. Who knows? Maybe Noelle/Catti is the true endgame here.
but my krusie food...
This could work if it wasn't Noelle's raging thirst for Susie and Ralsei dick riding You constantly. Susie largely just wants friends and Kris is just Kris.
from the thumbnail I though this was a political compass
Ralsei is specifically dick riding the player, not Kris. If the player doesn't reciprocate or it simply doesn't happen because of the meta divide, I can Ralsei going for someone.
Noelle is a toxic lesbo that would drag Susie down who deserves better
Ralsei is specifically dick riding the player, not Kris
We agree on that anon. Ralsei simply hasn't shown any interest in anyone else yet. And no, being a foil to Susie isn't enough.
Forget UTDR fans not reading, sometimes they don't even use their eyes
You just said "they look cute" but in a more wordy way. I still don't see any chemistry between them in any way.
I guess I hadn't thought of it hard enough but I was still in the mindset that Gaster was the one who guided Spamton as if he was just fucking about telling him insider trading secrets before I read this post.
idk anon I never actually noticed dunno what to tell you
As much as I like Krusie, it's important to pair Kris and Noelle together because they are both retards who may do something unwise if their heart is broken. Meanwhile Susie still thinks of both of them as her friends, so she wouldn't mind, not to mention she wouldn't really have trouble finding a mate for herself.
I like the potential of Monster Kid/Susie.
But what happens if you eat all the eggs
We can't close the circuit until we get Noelle/Ralsei, everything else works
We agree on that anon.
My fault, I just simply misread. Anyway, it's still pretty early in the game so I wouldn't rule it out. But outside of maybe the timeloop theory true, I'm leaning towards the idea that no ship will come to fruition due to how short the timeframe is. At most, maybe it'll end on the set up for a romantic relationship.
You leave out of happiness
You become eggtatic.
You get large, roughly the size of a barge.
Eggs-husband dies of malnutrition
Sans goes out of business
Bad end
gaster will be inside you
You get pregnant, and become an eggs-husband
My serious opinion on Suselle is I have no strong feelings towards it but it's probably going to get more developed in future chapters so I will withhold judgement for now.
The most interesting thing is strictly from Susie's side, it's nice to see her develop a lil crush for the first time and not understand it. She already isn't used to having friends so she doesn't sort out her romantic vs platonic feelings. That's why she gets kinda awkward around Noelle and yells at her to stop looking at her tail.
It's just nice to see this genuinely awkward side of her.
Noelle/Ralsei
They look cute together, but frankly I am not yurifag so I can't build a ship on such premise. I need some kind of hook, something to work with.
>Noelle/Ralsei
I am not yurifag
and the baby is (You)
Fred Gaster
It's very hard for me to imagine. They're both cute and nice and submissive, there's nothing to make the gears turn, it's like mixing water and water. Every other combination of these four has great chemistry except this one.
Plus you can't avoid the fact that Ralsei looks like Kris's older brother, that's loaded with a ton of baggage, maybe you could spin something freaky with that angle but I don't like it.
I still think Noelle x Catti toxic yuri is the superior ship and I expect cute headpatting fan art on my desk by tomorrow at 10am
the fuck is toxic about that
Have one now
cats by nature
catti sat on her
It should have been me.
maybe you could spin something freaky with that angle but I don't like it.
Hear me out on this. You don't even need to turn it into something freaky.
It's pretty common for children to develop a crush on their friend's older sibling, right? And so, that's an easy way to set a precedent for Noelle having a thing for fluffy goats.
Based lizzur lover
Indeed, Go left in chapter 4.
I cannot fucking believe I've never noticed the background music in ENTRY 17 is basically the phone distortion from Deltarune. holy fuck
Porn is not the mainstream fandom
In the mainstream fandom you would be crucified for even admitting to look at porn of the Deltateens
they're already super cute
Absolute shit taste
Just look at
Kris and Noelle at the city normal route
Ralsei and Susie hanging out at the city
Kris and Susie hanging out in the town after chapter 2
Hell, even
Catti talking about Noelle
Frisk and Monster Kid crossing the rain
This is what actual chemistry looks like.
But I'll be honest, I don't think Suselle is the real problem. It's Toby writing romance, he just has an unbelievable bad taste for it.
If he goes forward with Catelle as he just hinted, it will be as shit as Suselle. Even Kriselle would be shit if he went for that.
HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO MAKE A FULL VERSION OF THIS
WHERE THE FUCK IS IT POLYGONHEART
You guys should have made a Deltasnoot game while you had the chance
DRY will be REAL
you just have to [WAIT]
The problem with Suselle is that there are way too many other better candidates for anyone involved. Aldyne was bearable because there weren't that many better candidates for Undyne but, ironically, not for Alphys, she would've been better off with Asgore
Vast majority of fandom has shit taste.
only i have good taste
Kris x any character is boring because Kris's actual character is so mysterious that the shipper just ends up making up 90% of it.
Search your heart, you know it's true.
What Toby neglected to mention is that the actual quote from David Lynch was that he never forgets an idea because if he does, then he'll want to fucking kill himself.
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Yeah, that's just like, your opinion man.
People gotta separate shipping(playing dolls) from actual storytelling.
It's fun to ship things afterall, but it should be divorced from canon material, demanding your preferred ship becomes canon is just setting yourself up for failure(look at every popular shounen anime/cartoon with a proactive shipperbase)
Anyways Noelle x Catti is the best Noelle ship.
I actually prefer Undyne-Asgore over Alphys-Asgore, though it feels almost incestous.
don't think you need much to discern that he's a depressed weirdo that likes to act cool/edgy
It's mostly self insert wank, yes
Like pokemon mc ships
I have zero ethical/moralfag objections to Noelle being into Asriel to be clear, but spinning that into something with her and Ralsei just feels wrong in a lot of ways. It's hard to say.
It would be weird for Kris to see his childhood friend get with the weird goat tulpa that looks like Asriel
It makes Ralsei an Asriel substitute
You can easily imagine there might have been something with Dess and Asriel and that's just another layer of it being weird
I just can't see the foundation for this until they actually get some kind of meaningful interaction in the game.
Maybe there's some angle with Snowgrave Noelle into Ralsei but we're just writing fanfiction characterization at that point
Kris's actual character is so mysterious
He is just an emo, that's it.
omg he's literally me!
nah kris can actually BE cool AND be weird in a charming way, you/i could never.
the one true kris ship you aren't allowed to get in the way of no matter what you do is kris x pie