Niggas be like

Niggas be like

no it's not the best JRPG ever

and then you ask them for better JRPGs and they are like

uuhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....

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Dark Souls is a way better JRPG

B-b-but Dark Souls isn't a JRPG!!

It's an RPG made by japs.

Final Fantasy X

Every final fantasy. Every dragon quest

it's also shit

Finally a JRPG without:

gay anime aesthetic

cringy tropes or Japanese "humor"

juvenile writing

braindead, tedious spreadsheet combat

digimon reject pile enemies and bosses

bland, empty overworld

full of padding and bloat

It's an actual well-written, mature, grounded story with compelling characters, challenging and engaging combat, memorable bosses, and a sense of adventure. Is that so much to ask for?

Final fantasy IX
Chrono cross
Shin megami tensei Nocturne
Breath of fire IV
Persona 5
Star ocean till the end of time
Xenosaga (the whole thing)
Lufia II rise of the sinistrals
Shadow hearts (the whole thing, but #2 is best)
Wild arms 3

Baldur's Gate 3

Movie game with corridor *dungeons*

Actually ruined the series

You keep spamming this same post in every e33 thread

well-written

No

mature, grounded story with compelling characters

No

challenging and engaging combat

No

How are the dungeons in E33? Currently on the fence

Souls is better but not a JRPG

better but not a JRPG

fuck no, you weebs are an embarrassment.

Extremely confusing, I love it

There arent any

Chrono Cross

great music, eh story, shit gameplay. jobs to e33 easy.

Every dragon quest

I've only played XI and really enjoyed it. My biggest gripe was the post game basically make you grind to max level to interact with the content and no real good way to farm outside of the slime method, are the rest of the games like the in regards to post game?

No

Yes :)

No

Yes ;)

No

Yes :D

Guess ill pirate

I'm not a weeb. I'm just listing decent games. Clair Obscur is not a good game

Not really dungeons in the traditional sense, but most areas have one semi-linear main path, and then optional side paths with loot and optional bosses branching off that. There is also a ton of late/end-game content on the overworld with challenging bosses and battle arenas and whatnot though.

In terms of combat, it's by far the best of any JRPG out there.

E33 isn't a series, it's just one game

It's actually bad because it doesn't have tranime gooner fanservice.
Hope this helps

You don't actually believe it has good combat

gooner fanservice.

But it does have that

Clair Obscur fans thought this game invented QTEs lmaooooooo

No but seriously we can't let France get their hands on the nuclear codes

Every final fantasy

Only 1-9 are good games.

it's by far the best of any JRPG out there

If you want real time dodging and parrying and qtes play an action game. They just ruin the strategy when shoved into a turn based game

It is unambiguously far and away better than any JRPG out there, and top 5 turn-based of all time (much more competition when you include strategy/CRPG)

well-written, mature

Sure it does, anon. I've always liked turn based combat and shit like Lost Odyssey and Paper Mario were fun to me. This is that and more.

How did they do it?

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FFX ruined FF

kino. i'm getting deluxe edition right now

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Nice falseflag, faggot. It's a good game because it's like classic JRPGs and modern AAA JRPGs are bad games because they are not.

bland, empty overworld

This absolutely applies to e33

Breath of Fire 3
Dragon Quest 4
Star Ocean 3

Neither of these are examples of good combat.

I'm starting to believe everybody is just pretending and nobody actually thinks this game is good

Y'all boys keep pushing this like it's a JRPG without all that gay anime shit but not 5 hours in and suddenly I get this nigga Verso and his lame, goofy ass heading my squad. Y'all tweaking.

Bad opinion , real time dodging and parrying are the of the many reason valkyrie profile was one of the best jrpg, stop playing FF trash

the threads are starting to slow down

so it was shilled slop all along kek?

she was in private equity. writing little fantasy stories is nothing for a BIG WALL STREET MONEYMAKER

The combat is fucking ass

It's average, but shills gotta shill.

filtered shitter

How did they do it?

By freeing themselves from the ESG menace.

Everyone beat the game, it's 50 hours long, retard

How much of this games budget went to pajeet/chinese bot farms? Most of it?

barklet shut up and jam gaiden

I liked it, and I think E33 executes it better. ;)

FF-X saved FF until FFX-2 ruined it again retard
there hasn't been a single decent FF game after X

It's not on Switch, so it's bad.
If they want it to be good, they should release it on Switch 2.

nta but what tactical options do you have in combat aside from do big damage to kill boss before you take hits? Im trying to keep an open mind here but if you die when you dont perfect parry i dont see the point in it being turn based at all

stop....the....count

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truke
FPBP

Yeah because they all fucking turned into movies

Niggas be like

no it's not the best JRPG ever

and then you ask them for better JRPGs and they are like

here's a comprehensive list

and them I'm like uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh no because I only like this one game because it's not a JRPG

top 3 of all time on backloggd

contrarian bros... our next move?!

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Sorry, not playing your FotM. Better things to do.

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you ask them for better JRPGs

KH2

You can eat shit and still survive, there are even pictos to gain ap on taking damage instead of parrying

FFX is the best game ever created, FFXIII is better than FFXII, FFVI is a chore after World of Balance, and FFVIII is a phenomenal game that didn't spoonfeed large portions of plot and character motivation to the audience which is why it's misunderstood :^)

FFXIII is better than FFXII

I really doubt that

It's not even the best FF game lol

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Even on hard? I thought people were getting killed in one turn, or is that just early game?

FFX is the best game ever created

I wouldn't go that far but it's certainly my favourite. It's kind of funny because I hated everything about the look of it before I played it, then just totally fell in love with it. The complete opposite happened with EX33, it looked interesting and then I played it and got bored to death.

FFXII was the last decent one they just extremely rushed it near the end
Fuck Nomura and his slops
Fuck Nojima
Fuck movie games
Fuck things dying in 1 hit until endgame

I didn't do parry for like 90% of the game. There are times when you want to parry (short/predictable attacks or when you need AP), but for longer/more difficult combos, you are better off just dodging.

Each character has their own specific mechanics, abilities, and playstyle, and Luminas add a lot of fun, experimentation, and depth to the combat. But like any good combat game, whether real-time or turn-based, the good are separated from the great by the enemy/boss design, and fortunately E33's is absolutely top notch. Incredibly epic and creative boss fights with large and challenging movesets.

Also you can stack HP/Def/shields or healing/revives and tank a ton of damage, you don't need to just play glass cannons all the time.

FFVIII is a phenomenal game that didn't spoonfeed large portions of plot and character motivation to the audience which is why it's misunderstood

It's E33 director's favorite game and he did the same given how many retards missed half of the story here

13 is better than 12

are you on drugs

Well hard is supposed to be hard so no

Nah, depends on the enemy, but outside of really high damage attacks (that are usually slow and predictable), you rarely get one shot unless you literally just build zero vitality, zero defense, and have zero defensive picto or lumina. Played the whole game on Expert, definitely recommend that, it wasn't all that challenging.

tfw downloaded all of the Pixel Remasters and remembered FF is boring as shit

I was thinking to try Lunar Remastered but I fear it's also boring as shit

This. attacking is so repetitive and boring.
the QTEs on skills are just random popups instead of proper combo string timings. They don't feel engaging so you may as well just set them to auto.
I found my self skipping characters turns entirely because I was just killing everything too fast to even need to learn its parry timings
also parry counters are performed automatically and are way overpowered..

It's very good. But it isn't better than FFX, the greatest turn based JRPG of all time

Based
No that would be 7

Based youre 100% correct

all these mentions of FF7

I played it for the first time last year on original hardware (30 year old zoomer), and while it wasn't bad, it was very underwhelming, and so dry and boring that it took me almost two months to finish even when I didn't do much side content. Just a total drag.

everything is just so damn slow-paced from the animations to the transitions to the loading to the constant cutscenes and monologues

combat is braindead autopilot button mashing. Regular enemies are just absolutely braindead cannon fodder for grinding that pose zero risk whatsoever. Even bosses are a complete joke, and you will only ever fail to poorly telegraphed gotcha trollshit

camera angles in combat are obnoxious and constantly obscure the fight

targeting enemies and allies in fights is very finicky. Having to actually point at 3D models instead of just using the list of names is baffling

magic spells are very samey and don't really fill a niche or usecase, and have few meaningful tradeoffs

no descriptions for any spells or items while in combat

no symbols for status elements and no way to view them

translation is extremely shoddy, full of grammatical errors, spelling errors, nonsensical engrish

dialogue boxes look amateurish, appearing all over and blocking parts of the screen and character names only appearing their first line; when new, unnamed characters speak, no name is shown, and the dialogue box appears the same as if the previous character is speaking

d-pad digital movement feels awful to navigate isometric maps; you will frequently bang into walls and go back the way you came on screen transition

prerendered backgrounds are very unclear and unintuitive regarding what areas you can traverse or interact with

99% of the objects in the world can't be interacted with, while a few arbitrarily can and give zero indication of this

FF7 was a weak 6. Expedition 33 is a strong 9, one of the best RPGs of all time, and easily the best of the JRPGs (excl. Souls obv)

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the QTEs on skills are just random popups instead of proper combo string timings

The worst thing is how setting them on auto doesn't stop them from appearing. Honestly the UI in this game is so bad.

TRVTH NVKE
Rebirth is even worse, shittiest slop i've ever played

I just got Monoco, I love everything about the game except the story, I know I'm probably halfway and should just keep playing but I have no drive and REALLY get the feeling that I'm not going to care where it goes from here.

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FFX doesn't have grainy, blurry, jittery artifact riddled graphics so it Wins hard compared to Unreal slop.
I still like FF7 better mainly because of materia.

Based ill give it a go

I am only on act 2, but you can get absolutely btfo by optional bosses. I have tried to fight a couple of them but I'm clearly not levelled enough to be fighting them. Playing on normal btw.

watched*

I wished i did

olay, can I now have it without the shit woman and faggot dialogue and story?

JRPG fans be like

Where is the cringey forced romance between party members?

Where is my self insert teen protagonist with a huge harem??

Why is the villain not an evil God??

Why aren’t the characters all edgy teenagers / young adults?

Where are the outrageous hairstyles and fashion choices?

Where is the beach episode?

Why aren’t the villains long haired prettyboys??

Where is the cute adorable funny animal mascot??

Where are the comical relief scenes?

SHIT GAME DESU!!!

Chromatic enemies are optional minibosses (they are by themselves and it's usually quite obvious they are minibosses) that will deal a ton of damage and have pretty big HP bars, but you can beat them if you get their moveset down, and they are not so unforgiving that you can't make some mistakes. If you try the areas marked danger however, those are late-game areas, and while you can attempt them early, you will be way underleveled and it will be very difficult if you don't play near flawless.

But the actual main story path is pretty well balanced overall though, and as long as you aren't terrible at strategy or parry/dodge timing, you shouldn't have a ton of trouble, although most bosses will require a few retries to learn their movesets.

Maybe it's that I already know the story is going to devolve into a reality break trope about a pathetic family drama, because the devs had no idea what story they wanted to tell.
But the game just feels like a slog. Surprisingly I don't even care that the cutscenes actually have decent voice acting and human mannerisms.
I still want to skip them all. they're so fucking boring.
I'm also sick of the stutter and texture streaming that happens in cutscenes.

Nah, it gets good near the end. I've not seen anyone who didn't end up liking it by the end.

If you spoiled it, that is your own fault.

you sound like a whiny depressed faggot.

You sound like a filtered retard

I haven't seen anything, I just knew I wasn't vibing with the story as much as the rest of the game when I reached the end of Act 1, the fact that Gustave's obvious replacement shows up 10 seconds after what happens in the same cutscene had me laughing my ass off.

It all makes sense in the end and with the free roam content.

it gets good near the end

Stop lying to him it completely falls apart by the end.
Most people don't like the skitzo story turnign into something else. the devs should have just put the stupid underdeveloped family grief plot into their next game instead of awkwardly tacking it onto this game where it doesn't fit.

I love E33 and consider it a masterpiece but it's still not the best jrpg ever you fucking retard

TRVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVKE

Niggas be like

>no it's not the best JRPG ever

and then you ask them for better JRPGs and they are like

>uuhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....

What is?

it's very hard to rank JRPGs because so this is the most nostalgia biased genre. There is honestly so much overrated slop (FF7 fucking hell, the entire Persona series, even Chrono Trigger...)
E33 is great but to me it's not in my top 3 (Nocturne, Last Remnant, FF8)

putting FF8 above 7

Reddit

FF7 is literally the most dickrided FF on reddit retard

any game that's not made in UE5 gets put above it by default.

Easily the best in the past decade though. Mainly because it uses the classic formula that Square Enix claims doesn't sell anymore.

because it's good.

ah yes the classic formula of QTEs and button prompts appearing on screen.
The fucking kingdom hearts recoded turnbased combat feels better than this crap.

It has way better pacing and the materia system is straight up the best system they ever made. Compare that to Junction/Draw come the fuck on now.

finally a jrpg without jrpg things

so just admit you dont like jrpgs whats so hard

You sound like a fanboy.

Despite being like a classic JRPG in every other way, it doesn't count because it has dodges and parries

You're responding to bait, retard.

I really wish jeets got IP banned during the reboot

the dodges and parries are ok.
the fucking QTEs on skills are complete trash and are implemented so fucking lazily.

Geg filtered

the fucking QTEs on skills are complete trash and are implemented so fucking lazily.

Good thing they have an off setting for people like you then.

I thought you could turn those off

He obviously didn't play the game, anon.

This guy would shit his pants if he tried playing a real JRPG like Legends of Dragoon

You turn them off and the prompts still pollute the screen.

1. there should be no massive invasive prompts blackign the attack animation.
2. the input should actually line up with the fucking animation. you should press 'A' at intuitive points in the animation.
Take mario & Luigi RPG basic attack - you press A again when mario lands on the enemies head.
Pretty fucking basic game design to make attacks feel satisfying. but they fucked it up so bad.

Ah, a tendie. As espected of shitposter-san.

I can't play 20+ year old games forever though.

No retard. that's just an RPG example. I pirate and emulate everything.
look at any action game. when you attack, do you hit random QTEs at random points in the animation?
NO you press the button at the end of your swing, or you time a release when you make contact with the enemy for a power boost.
This is engagement. Nonsensical QTEs popups that they couldn't even fucking bother to sync up is not. it's cheap trash.

The timing is more for dodges/parries. The QTEs for attacks are mostly just a short, fun little distraction while the animation plays, and you can even disable them.

You sound autistic though, and are just nitpicking over the most stupid shit just to be contrarian.

Legends of Dragoon

Legend of dragoon inputs line up perfectly with your hits connecting.
They are actually a perfect example of how E33 is cheap garbage. in E33 the prompts are random and don't line up with the animations at all.
Legend of dragoon also has really nice noninvasive transparent prompts that don't block the animation.

The QTEs for attacks are mostly just a short, fun little distraction

They're not fun because they're trash that is not implement in an engaging way. It's the cheapest thing possible and a sign of low quality.

Then disable them you whiny nigger, or just go do something else with your time like rant about tipping culture or something you autistic fag

Because it isn't a JRPG. No amount of astroturfing and Chinese bot shilling will change that.

kek?

beta as fuck ngl, at least own being a complete faggot

Stop making this about me. this is a mark against the combat.
the argument is that the combat is great. but it's not, it's fucking subpar even when compared to ps1 games.

cringy tropes or Japanese "humor"

Run around and do jumping puzzles for swimsuits that show off the girl's jiggly tits.

>Movie game with corridor *dungeons*

that's E33

it's bad because of le harmless optional QTE that keeps you engaged

Fuck off you pedantic retard.

Each character has their own specific mechanics, abilities, and playstyle, and Luminas add a lot of fun, experimentation, and depth to the combat. But like any good combat game, whether real-time or turn-based, the good are separated from the great by the enemy/boss design, and fortunately E33's is absolutely top notch. The enemy designs, boss designs, epic scale of the fights, the huge variety of attacks, and the dodge/parry timing that keeps fights engaging even in the rare instances where strategy becomes routines. It's all just so far and away better than any other JRPG combat out there.

dark souls is an action game

that keeps you engaged

it's unengaging, unsatisfying and completely disconnected from the game.

optional

the QTE prompts block the screen no matter what so it's not optional. Auto or not, you can't get rid of them.
What the game should have is a system like Legend of dragoon instead of this poorly programed substandard shit.

when you have be in denial like you are to dismiss all the games shortcomings it's clearly not the best RPG combat.
far from it.

wah wah wah I'm a whiny autistic retard

Stop breathing please

it's the best RPG combat ever

hey attacking in this game is so bad that even SNES & PS1 titles had better systems

waahhh stop pointing out faults, you're whiny and autistic for noticing.

Seething fanboy.

Moms are tough

even SNES & PS1 titles had better systems

Combat systems were far better back then, there was a massive decline in quality since the mid 2000s.

Because it's been done a million fucking times.

For god's sake here's a few off the top of my head.
FF6
Mother 3
Panzer Dragoon Saga
Lufia 2

Achieves nothing and dies several minutes later

Absolute cinema, bravo Daisuke.

Has anyone very played a game like E33 where the story goes in a direction where you’re not sure if what they’re doing is a great idea but they gradually win you over? That’s how I felt about Act 3.

And then they stopped, that's while this game was successful.

yeah QTEs that don't line up with anything remind me of the bottom of the barrel shovelware like licensed movie games you'd get from bargain bins when you were a kid.

Soul Reaver 1/2 and Planescape Torment are the only games that are the same to me. Interesting from start to finish, but has that part where you think they'll fuck this up for sure, but they don't and it's K I N O.

I do actually think Mother 3 is better. This game has a lot of spectacle and is fun, but the story is mostly old tropes sewn together for the first two acts, and then the old FFT/Star Ocean 3 rugpull for the second two acts. Definitely a cut above the rest, but Mother 3 was more original and moving.
It made me cry, and this didn't.

Not really usually if the story veers of into "what the fuck are these morons doing" it only gets worse from there.

I dunno, I kinda feel like the overall ending to Soul Reaver dropped the ball when it doesn't fucking exist

and then you ask them for better JRPGs and they are like

REBIRTH.

The Dualliste in Clea's Atelier is really pushing my shit in.

what if I create something and then at the end make it so everything I built doesn't fucking exist.

the most hacky way to destroy all meaning.

This is why I like the klonoa games for BTFO this trope. You get the pain of accepting harsh realities and having to leave with sad goodbyes.
but without everything you've done being pointless. all the character development and building still matters.
the worlds still exist, you just travel to them and exist in them via your dreams, an unmaintainable state. The impact of what you've done there is real tho and the experience meant something to all involved in the plot.

Rebirth is an action game
-1 point
it's also unreal engine slop just like E33
-5 points
it has awful anime dialogue and mocap acting
-10 points
It has the worst most idiotic plot ever written
-100 points

-116/10

It quite literally is a better JRPG though.

Rebirth is an action game

Its an ARPG hybrid. It combines the elements of strategic turn based with fast paced action, basically eliminating the cons of turn based combat.

it's also unreal engine slop just like E33

Meme post

it has awful anime dialogue and mocap acting

Its not trails of cold cringe or atelier cringeza. Its anime, yes, but the good anime, and surprisingly very western written dialogue and humor.

It has the worst most idiotic plot ever written

It has the same plot as exp33, which is an expanded version of the original game.

Rebirth is an action game

It's no more of an action game than Star Ocean is

Its anime, yes, but the good anime,

I disagree Desu Yuffie was unbearable even compared to how she was in Intergrade

basically eliminating the cons of turn based combat.

eliminating turn based all together.

but muh """ATB"""

no different from a meter resource in any action or fighting game.

no different from a meter resource in any action or fighting game.

no different than any atb turn based but except you have no input on anything

no different than any atb turn based

the turnbased part is gone. real time control means you need to to design exactly like an action game or the design will fall apart like it did in part 1 with the fake combat mechanics.

Nevermind, just beat him.

Just play the Digital Devil Saga games.

Holy based! Rebirth mogs E33 so hard it's unreal

I dabbed all over him with Sciel. I gave her the weapon that applies rush + slow, the Faster than strong picto that works like Cheater but halves your damage, the delaying attack skill, every on death picto that buffs/heals/charges the party + auto-death and second chance. Dualiste got knocked down to like 40% health before he got a turn where he killed sciel and refreshed my party again, kek. My big brown booty queen is busted.

If you are avoiding using Stendhal on bosses, you can use Auto Death+Breaking Death+Second Chance+Sniper+Marking Death+Stay Marked on a not-Verso character and then use Verso's End Bringer to do a lot of damage without killing the boss in one hit.

anime beach trope

anime mannerisms

anime kun do you like my swim suit that's more conservation than common bikini you'd see everyday at any beach.

protagonists nose bleeds

he spergs the fuck out

uhhm anime kun are you alright, *tilts head and behaves like n infant*

protagonist dies of a sperg seizure

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I caved too but I didn't last a half hour in this fruity dumbed down story corridors movie game console slop. My SSD will never forgive me

Lil bro never made it out of the tutorial sequence
Really enlightening on the kind of "gamers" who hate this game for very genuine reason and not at all because popular = bad

open world tower slop

Nah. Give me an overworld any day over whatever they wasted years on with rebirth.

the gameplay was kind of boring but that's not what made me hate it.
for me it was the graphics and the fact the game is taped together.
When I saw how bad the hair and softshadows were I tried to fix it with no success. Modern devs are like "just play in 4k and keep far back from the screen so you don't see how bad it looks".
The jank animations and clipping pissed me off.
then when I got to the manor and started seeing this shit I wrote the game off completely.
I can't believe people would pay money for such badly made trash. I was stunned, even the worst looking games of last generation never did anything this bad.

No thanks, i prefer the organic exploration of rebirth instead of the busywork looking overworld

busywork looking overworld

Can you expand on this?

Why even play JRPGs if you hate anime? It doesn't make sense

Pretty simple: the design of the overworld doesnt allow you to easily distinguish whats interactable, important, already seen or just non important props
its VERY busy

Give me an overworld

A low effort miniturised version of the normal areas that adds nothing to the gameplay. E33 overworld just reminds me why I don't really miss world maps. Only a handful of JRPGs ever really did a good job with them, FF7 being chief among them thanks to chocobo breeding.

i bet you like sucking lotta cocks

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write JRPG

make the character's eyes smaller

have them say Putain a few times

"holy shit this is so innovative to the genre!"

marks

I mean this games "dungeons" are generally hallways with small branches that go nowhere. They look nice enough but very few did anything neat. I think they were trying to have resource management but there are way too many checkpoint flags for that.

The TAA/SSR ghosting is fucking awful and it's embarrassing such a key location looks so noisy all the time.

i like xenogears :)

It's a bizarre thing for sure. I don't like sports games but I'm sure as hell not going to start playing one if they make turn based football or whatever so I don't understand what possesses these retarded drones to slime into a genre they hate just because something has been tweaked.

low effort

you do realize overworld is much more complicated to implement than open world which has presets in UE5 right?

Listen man, older games like, oh the irony, FF7 had very simple colouring and asset design that immediately tells you whats explorable and what isnt
Exp33 doesnt

muh zoomer

Yeah well the rest of the world fell for the elden ring "yes i love spending my time exploring useless pieces of land just so i dont miss a thing" meme, i didnt.

we like old anime (when you weren't yet born) not your zoomer faggot slop, it's simple as.

HOW you fucking spastic? It's literally just another open world area with smaller models.

People like you are why we have yellow paint infesting almost every single game these days but I bet you complain about those too don't you, homo-sabe?

Are there any good lewd mods for it besides just regular bare-ass naked mods? It's the only way I'd sit through a jrpg like this.

the real FF7 is nothing like this garbage.

People like you are why we have yellow paint infesting almost every single game these days but I bet you complain about those too don't you, homo-sabe?

I never did
maybe for remake4 because that one was actually excessive, it was EVERYWHERE
i remember rebirth only had those at the beginning, with some mt nibel ledges, and thats it

And yet you realize exp33 also has special yellow ledges

Based and true.
OP btfo

World maps aren't the greatest thing ever but nothing in the rebirth zones was actually good. It was ubislop open world checklist busywork over and over. Repetitive and a really just slowed the game down.

areas have big glowing circles to indicate you can enter them

marked on map as well

gestral merchants generally stand out

clear barriers(coral, special rocks, the sea)

enemies easily visible

What more do you want? The biggest problem is the random debris you can get stuck on and the little shortcut buttons that are easy to miss.

idk anon but you go into a gym full of crossdressing grown men and then cloud himself crossdresses and gets called cute multiple times

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NTA but it's actually an open world with some custom grid.

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Game was anime as fuck, I don't see how people gloss over that because it's le honhonhon

frenchies make game that takes direct inspiration from the design and storytelling of FFVIII - FFX with autistic upgrade systems and a plot that actually requires the player to engage with it

FF7R shills lose their fucking minds after spending almost six years defending the abortion of a remake they got that just pads the ever living fuck out of a game with completely unnecessary convolution

are now in total fucking meltdown mode trying to paint the fanbase of the game as JRPG haters when it is literally a pastiche of like 10 different JRPGs

and a plot that actually requires the player to engage with it

Remake/rebirth plot is like this

Is not a JRPG or the best anything, just heavily astroturfed. Even something as mid as FFXVI made more impact

nothing in the rebirth zones was actually good

exploring every location from the OG FF7 in detail plus more if you wanted isn't good

just give me a tiny model world map instead where theres nothing to do but smash rocks and move from A to B

kys

And yet you realize exp33 also has special yellow ledges

Does it though? I seem to recall missing a few climbing spots because they tend to blend with the environment a little too well in some areas.

it didn't. at all

Xenosaga
Dragon Quest
Final Fantasy
Are all bad franchises with no good games. Kill yourselves and take your shit taste with you once and for all!

nothing in rebirth was actually good

ftfy

Niggas be like

Just because you put niggas in the OP doesn't mean we can't tell you're still a shill faggot. You gotta put that hard r on it.

Anons name better jrpgs

Nooooooooooo those don't count reeeeeee