Come watch some professional StarCraft: Brood War! It's semifinals (round of 4) time for the Afreeca Starleague, Season 19. Almost at the end now.
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Today's matchup is.....
Best (P) vs Light (T)
Whoever wins this will face off either Snow (unlikely) or Soulkey (probably) in the Grand Finals.
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Light is highly favoured here, so it'll be surprising if Best somehow can squeeze through. Best did have an awe-inspiring victory against Queen in the round of 8, admittedly.
LETS GOOOOO
Most important time of the day has arrived
light sporting the worst bowl cut in existence
The better your haircut, the worse you are at StarCraft. This is a fact. There isn't a single ASL champ with stylish hair.
terranbros...
LIGHT MY TERRAN BROTHER WIN THIS
Come on light kills some drobes
Is E3 back? Where is the gameplay?
DEATH VALLEY NOT BANNED
Why doesn't Anon Babble do a cheer?
도재욱 1.. 2.. 3..
Kino incoming
Mass cloaked wraiths おねが
LETS GOOOOOOOO
DISHONEST 2 FACTORY
1 base vs 1base
is this some kind of a meme game
WHAT AIUR GONNA DO
light doing some cheese against a shittoss like what he did vs soulkey
yeah light is fucking washed.
DROBE GENOCIDE
ACK
ACK!!
GOOD MINE EXPLOSIONS
Bro can't even hold a simple push
Nuclear launch detected.
I woke up for starcraft not minesweeper
Holy shit what a game. Glad I woke up for this
artosis loses both tanks there
Vultures are good units.
Mines are great.
No matter what era of Brood War, this is always true.
loses to mines even with obs
apetoss bros?
All protoss except Snow are absolute baboons
artosis gets scouted before the second fact finishes
too many minelayers, not enough goons to focus them down. it happens. was kinda neat of Best trying to go in with the probes to delete the mines.
Which are better workers, drobes or prones?
And for a while he nearly succeeds in doing so until the extra vultures arrived.
artosis would never stain his honor with a 2fac
do a cheer motherfuckers
이재호 1.. 2.. 3..
LETS GO
Kino averted
chad gas steal denial
kek, dishonesty punished
Scout chance?
you look at this Probe harassement and then you remember that one spastic, who wants to lower SCV HP and Armor
I missed the first 3 mins of this death valley match, anything notable happened?
only thing notable was Light blocking the gas steal by putting a refinery on in time
I see, thanks
Best
not the best player
Dropped.
fug I'm late
I'd rather see Best win, and he does have a decent chance against Light, but Best vs Soulkey might go worse than the last time Best made a finals, versus July in 2008. And he probably still has nightmares of that set, it was brutal
dishonest
the fuck is that shitty drop micro LMAO
TOTAL DROBE DEATH
WATCHU GONNA DO EXECUTOR
maek goons
shit drop
Justify this shit stain of a map being in the pool.
that was a clutch refinery repair
brings every goon
cant kill gas
terran OP
one scv repair = one goon
Surprised of them decided to play a normal game on such a shit map
is fun
MAEK ZELOT
is high ground TOO advantageous?
two too reavers
dropping reavers on tanks
chad move
Best literally just SAT there the whole game
He should not win this game!
That's for a bunker.
Refinery has 2x more HP so 1 scv = 2 goons.
those reavers looked really good for 1 second
sub 300 apm
it's over for the oldies...
what gamespeed do they play on?
fucking do something with these
just realizing now that 8oclock base is the most crucial here, it's an odd number based map
fastest since 1998
Just switch to the carriers, this map was literally created for them.
slow walk your Templars, while mistiming your Zealot drop and army move
ngmi
Best shouldve been more aggressive denying Light's 3rd he played too safe
apetoss doesn't work
I MAEK CARREIRS??!?
dumb fucking race
So many tonks.
the whole map is a mess and not in a fun way imo.
being able to block off the north completely and the two lane south is just misery
lands port next to pylon
Light is such a chad
shouldve went carriers 5 minutes ago but Best can only play gateway man
good luck I'm behind 40 tanks!
Terranbros...
STORMUUUUUUU
TOTAL SCV DEATH
sick storm
holy storm
the fuck was that arbiter play
gg
well done to best though, he put up a great fight throughout
threw away an entire control group of army units just to kill maybe one or two factories
How can we fix Protoss?
Inb4 N-No you see it's the players fault
Uhuh, all toss players are magically bad
This map is so anti-terran and he manages to lose it? jesus christ
Nerf SCV HP, that's the main thing. SCVs shouldn't survive storm lol it's retarded
Best couldve went carriers when light was stuck on two bases but he's too busy playing like a ladder ape
Just give dragoons blink so they can jump on the tanks. Starcraft has already been fixed with the sequel.
We need to teach Protoss players to not act like baboons
do we need to?
we had 3 toss in the Bo8 and we have 2 in the Semi-Finals now.
we've seen plenty of Evidence that the majority of Pro-toss are just baboons.
*forgets to research storm*
"hatshiks" time
This shit making me want a redbull
Just build some scouts. Tanks and spider mines can't shoot up.
caster park? on the left look old, shit twas like a few years ago during flash and queen's reign he looked so young, also heard that intotherain the based one is battling leukemia, fuck this gay earth bros.
pumping iron while consuming energy drinks
s'not like I have a use for my heart
Protoss should try killing Terran with Observers. Tank and mine cannot shoot invisible units
The solution to PvT is 1 gate carrier.
The reason protoss loses is because if they go gateway, attacking gives them really bad trades, but they can defend because tanks are awkward to move. With 2 gate carrier, they just get crushed without a land army.
So you sacrifice only a small part of your ground army, and play defensively with 1 gate carrier. Even if you only have 1-2 carriers out, the terran is forced to go goliaths which weakens his tank/vultures enough that you can hold him off until you get like a dozen carriers.
if toss put in half the time zerg pros do to master muta micro then they could control shuttle-reavers like SnOw
mini did this in a final a few seasons ago
ASL winners by race:
Terran 8
Zerg 7
Protoss 3
t. BGH noob
Best rapes terrans to get into ro4
working as intended :^)
starts losing when faced with an acutally good terran
PROTOSS NEEDS BUFFS, NOW
Flash and Soulkey do not count
Wouldn't work as the Terran could counter it with lockdown.
Buff plasma shields
ASL winners by race:
Korean 18
apetoss is the cow walking in a straight line
See? Numbers don't lie
nah you can't say that
virtually all Zerg wins are split between Queen and Soulkey
isn't repair speed based on build speed?
Just mind control the ghost
Larva and Effort also won.
girls dont hide their faces
wtf, are these fake koreans?
Effort's win is the only one that counts since it's against FlaSh
most of them are streamers
Yes.
Refinery and bunker have somewhat similar build times, so repairing from 10% to 100% will take similar time. But since refinery has more hp, one scv will repair more hp per second.
terranbros
very difficult voice to listen to
e-girl era girls aren't embarrassed to be seen near nerdy things anymore.
either University sluts or just streamers
Why are you not listening the very energetic Korean cast?
Lets gooooo light fuck 'toss
I don't understand Korean.
And to be honest I think they're too excited. It's just starcraft.
cross spawn
last scout
yeah light lost
nice map
I rate it nigga heil hitler / 10
"What if, I do another hidden starport"
dishonest race
ANOTHER DISHONEST STARPORT
TERRANS ARE FUCKING DISGUSTING
I don't understand Korean either but the viewing experience is so much better than listening to the nasal charisma void
You're probably right.
Best activated neurons this time and had Goons at the ready
amazing
sub 7min nexus
TOSSBROS!
being cross spawn protoss is already dishonesty by protoss
oh boy can't wait to see Soulkey demolish Light again in the grand finals
Light playing like FanTaSy wit this unrelenting Vult harass
maybe Sn0w will finally step up this season
Could've happened to a better person. Light absolutely did not deserve to be in the ro4 after all his not so good plays against lesser players
RIBU INSTANTLY DELETED BY MINE
LMAO
l m a o
reaver
lol
that drop play
LMAO
lol
by not losing your reaver to a mine lol
GG
If you're not Snow just don't build reavers ever.
WorSt drop
How does that happen? What does toss have to practice in PvT other than shuttle micro?
this isn't the first time this has happened
why does he never drop the zealot first?
Snow would have picked up the reaver as the mine detonates
Best should make dishonest invisible men
keeps landing the starport in the same spot
my fucking sides
someone post the inControl chart
Light is throwing the game away. He needs to get a fourth base now
"Yea, my Shuttle micro is so shit, I just use 6 of them"
absolute genius strategy
He has his 4th ready, it's Best's game to lose, he's expanding way too fast while being way too passive. lmao
reaver just sitting there, doing absolutely nothing
I was about to say something similar lmao. Just crazy to see so many reavers being used so haphazardly.
reaver does nothing
slow walk Templars into tank line, while Science Vessel is spying at you
its öike Best wants to get gaped
what would SnOw do
I dont care for whores that would show off their face like that
Storm abuser
this tank setup by llight is so stupid.
have 4 shuttles
let your templars die
genius!
Nah Best is running away with the game the moment he got the top right base
Goons struggle to kill SCVs lol
he has 7 bases, he wins this by as048g
landslide.
Insane that light is still putting up a fight even when best is on 7 bases now lol
7 base toss vs 3 base terran
KEK
the worst thing is, you can see how he's throwing units away. its so fucking sad to watch
Best can get away with playing his usual gateway ape style with his cross spawn auto win
SCVs just casually walking through a storm, not dying as usual
just call it and go next
skull emoji
that CC lift timing
insane
Caveman mode activated
Light is playing like Artosis this game
maek gateway
GG
How to win against terran.
Take 5+ bases, terran can't take the 4th base.
4th dishonest starport incoming
only works if you can keep constantly trading well with the terran, or he will just take out your bases one by one
Light retardedly expanded towards the toss. Should've expanded to 6 o' clock instead
Eclipse
kino game incoming
Light will probably stop making dropships and just focus on EMP the templars this game
Neither player is very convincing. unless Sn0w somehow manages to activate his inner Qi gates tomorrow, Light/Best will absolutely get raped by Soulkey in the finals
yeah it's gonna be a quick gf
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
No one can beat SK because he's ultra-motivated to get the prize money unlike everyone else (to make up for getting scammed twice).
inb4 2 base carriers
dishonest warp
just walk into terran's base, he can't legally stop you
Steal gas, maek gateway, I am Best
late factory
tossbros?? reverse 4:2 incoming??
5 fact timing push
I dont think best can hodl
light was toying with him with the starports. Now he's serious and will rape his bussi bloody
Watching these gooks get like 5 factories up in under 10 minutes just serves as a nasty reminder to me of how much I suck at RTS games
mine mine mine
KEK
E
K
gg
THAT SURROUND
greatest throw of all time (this season)
terranbros...
Allahu akbar
artosisbros...
Terranbros...
nice big mine hi-
NO NOT LIKE THAT
it's ok, Eclipse was automatic loss anyway
Just need to follow a build order bruh.
that was jaedong
i place mine in tank line
lol
Light needs to lose so he can save terrans the humiliation from getting raped by SK. Let that humiliation fall on the protoss.
why does no other toss build as many observers as best?
the "make shit load of shuttles and at least one will make it" strategy is doing wonders
because they dont lose as many as Best
LIGHT
WASHED
light needs to cheese
what were all those starports?
that's not true, they constantly lose them and then they don't have any
it drives me insane when i see that shit
What wpuld you suggest, maybe proxy starport?
Don't know why Light gets so hyped up by all the other pros every single season. He plays like an open book every single game.
Because senpais will tell you that you have to use as few as possible and git good at microing them.
apologize to best guys
god, imagine the horror of a sweep by best today and then Sn0w winning tomorrow.
Best must be thanking the gods for the free wins against artosis
I would be happy with a SnOw victory
if Snow somehow beats SK then it will be a pleasure to watch him ruthlessly murder Best in the finals
protoss needs a asl win
I don't have a problem with Sn0w winning, but I don't want to see a PvP final
This map is so fucking ugly
butthole
TOTAL PROBE DEATH
like their women, they love to chop up maps to make them more symmetric
damn what a shit show
I love this "windmill" map
Double Robo
need dem Shuttles for dem dropgrams
this shit is so dumb
Light is actually going to throw a 2-0 lead
STOP RUNNING COWARD
STOP RUNNING LIGHT
YOU CAN'T ESCAPE THE GG
if it werks it werks
20 zealots just afking
Best typed "show me the money"
ban from ASL
Imagine losing against someone who only plays gateway man. Best hasn't changed his playstyle once every in this series.
CAPEMAN CAPEMAN CAN'T YOU SEE
SCVs punching back against DTs
cool
Notice how Best can throw away all his units and still win? Light can't harass to save his life.
It all comes tumbling down
Enemy has twenty shuttles? Hmmmm better park my tanks atop my mines. For the fifth time this game.
He's got the econ
Damn, Best is playing like a beast.
joever
Light finally remembers where G was on the keyboard
Feels like we saw the same game three times in a row
Lights out
apologize to best
Light status
on
off
these pizza slices make it retardedly hard to take fights
tanks, mines, turrets, buildings
goons, templars
FUCKING QUITTER
Is it over or is it bo7?
twice
TWICE?
I thought it was just the one luxury supercar scam.
Bo7
Never
Why did they stop doing third place games? Now we just have a week with no games before the finale.
Because nobody cares about 3rd place games. There's very little incentive to actually try and win it since you already have your Ro16 seed for next time and most of your money comes from streaming.
third place
no one cares (in any sport)
Rent deposit scam in 2022
tl.net
I thought Zerg were supposed to be cunning?
Being good at Zerg just means having high enough APM to control Zerglings effectively.
mmm vulchur
In Korea, while rent is relatively cheap compared to US, they have a system where you deposit significant amount of money in rent deposit in return, often being 100k+ ($200k+ USD is average 8 years ago)
What the fuck?
Then what's the point of renting if you can take mortgage instead?
Probes killing a vulture
Probe vulture hunter, it's more likely than you think
vulture gets mogged by probes
invisible men
INVISIBLE MAN
Panic
visible man
killing own scan
200 IQ move
First time I've seen that.
WATCHU GONNA DO AIUR BOY
unironically the smartest quick move
tf is best doing?
Matchfixing?
Best knows he's lost so he's BMing to put Light on tilt for game 7.
It's obviously a bugged replay.
No mine drag?
Light killed the mine before it exploded
that game
Holy fuck my asscheeks were clenched the whole time, that final push from Light was played on a razor's edge
C H I L L S
best just throwing away a bunch of goon and zealots
stuff like this always makes me think a match is fixed
Serves him right for being cheeky.
the amount of times those tanks ALMOST got minedragged was insane
That's just how Best plays. Go rewatch the past four games in this series and you'll see how much Best throws away.
I would simply hold the ramp, lower apm almost to zero and destroy my opponent's wrists
It's still less money, and you can move out more easily since it is not your house. The banks meanwhile jew both sides. The house buyer is paying them interest on a mortgage, the renter is paying them interest on the deposit.
And koreans are peasants rushed into post-industrial society. They are still work in a framework of a lord leasing land to farmer tenants
It's been done before. Rebuilding it gives you a new scan faster than waiting out a recharge.
he always does that. but in earlier games it was 7 bases v 3.
Next map is Metropolis. Is it T or P-favoured?
sponsormaxing
betfixing
Korea and Japan are both countries that I admire from afar but have little desire to live in.
noombers look even
Kind funny when you realise that Best is now playing two best of sevens up to the seventh game. Shit is rare.
we really going to game 7
jesus christ
I see, thanks bro.
Japan at least went through the industrial revolution on their own, which I think somewhat helped their mindset. Places like india or south africa where preindustrial farmers suddenly get hit by a train is something quite different
GO SCV GO
japs went trough westernization after Perry opened the ports and gained a more western mindest.
There's not really enough betting going on to make that worth it for anyone these days. During peak BW when it was on TV and megacorps were sponsoring everything there was a lot of money going around.
oh and also they didn't have the rigid retarded Caste system the Jeets have, which is still a massive thing Saar, I am Brahmin Saar.
The japs realized they were outdated and their government funded industrialisation efforts.
2 fact
lmao
TWO FACT
OH NONONO
LIGHT WASHED
HODL
lol
THROWN
gay robot race
KNEEL TERRANKEKS
lol
lmao even
letting your BO4 ride on a 2fact
congratulations to Soulkey for winning another ASL
KWAB
Nice!
Congratulations to Best for second place in ASL19!
Fuck off
hero 1HP goon charging forward and finishing off the tank
kino
Oh my God I wasn't expecting Best to win in a bo7 vs Light. Well done, very well done.
Things are looking better and better for Soulkey tbqh, since I think Best fares worse vs SK than Light.
Soulkey vs Best finals confirmed, 4-0 confirmed
Probes? MY HEROES
These fraud terrans can't win without Flash to innovate
very rude but also reasonable guesses
Damn those girls are top cuties.
my boy can do it, I beleb
light is a fucking retard
remove Flash and Soulkey
Protoss players start winning ASL
It's just that simple.
Yeah good luck shuttle/reaver shenanigans vs the best player of all time. there will be millions of hydras on the map
;_;
cmon snow just scarab a couple of drone lines
recalls into your mineral line
he will innovate with a new scout/corsair/dweb/reba build
thoughts?
Best seems to be going on a cinderella story season run
Snow might even lose to him if he manages to fluke soulkey
Japanese livestream
wtf? theres a Japanese SC scene?
5 people watching
lol
I hope either snow or best pull off four miracles
Snow's not gonna win versus Soulkey tomorrow, it's less than a 1% chance. Not even joking. SK's vest matchup is vs Toss, and Snow's worst matchup is vs. Zerg.
the best player of all time.
The best player of this current era. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.
snow? in may?
Free win for soulkey on deah valley and perhaps eclipse so Snow has to somehow overcome that.
Snow has godly performance
gets into the finals/ro4
gets destroyed by the current flavor of the month zerg bonjwa
hey I've seen this episode before
All eras. He blocks early stuff, he can kill early, mid or late game, he truly understands zerg. A zerg player that can do all that but is also happy to go into late game to plague grind is truly the best player.
If Soulkey can hold up this current streak for another 2-3 years, then I'll consider calling him the best of all eras. But you forget the amount of OSLs and MSLs and other tourneys Flash has won.
Man I slept in and we're already at semi finals? I missed it. Hope flash comes back.
Here's him endorsing PPP candidate before he went off to the military:
youtube.com
Pre-cryptoscam Flash...
I miss him.
To be honest a lot of early maps favored Terran and the maps were unbalanced in general. Sometimes when I'm watching old Zerg replays or games or youtube it's like wtf am I watching, how was zerg supposed to win on these maps? High terrain shit everywhere so people could drop tanks to harass bases lmao
OP here. I might be a little bit busy tomorrow. I'll probably still be available to make the thread, but on the slim chance that I don't, I leave it up to you folks.
I want SnOw to win but dishonest but hydras are too dishonest
SK vs Snow
That match doesn't even need a thread. Easy 4:0, nothing to see there.
He hasn't won enough to be the GOAT and his current bonjwa-like run has been during Flash's scandal so he conveniently avoided the true GOAT.
GOAT
couldn't beat Effort
twice
Heh
I hate z*rg
I seriously fucking hate z*rg
Just bee urself and play better bro :^)
Off yourself poolscum dentard spireshitter fagmound caveman
Should have made that rust edit into a firebat
effort is very aggressive and likes to use zerglings more than any other zerg and flash for whatever reason struggles against that style
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