Xenoblade X

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which xenoblade do i play to grind thousands of hours?

game for tendie kids who are too stupid to understand real MMOs or their mom wont let them buy a subscription

60 dollars for a decade old game

no thanks.
maybe I'll emulate it.

This one.
Having played the original, and knowing what to do/where to find things, I still ended up putting 200 hours to 100% the game.

understand MMOs

the top MMO at the moment encourages you to install as many cheats as possible and just added 1 button rotations. At least most people just play this game vanilla without any cheats.

Yes

At least coomposters don't beg other anons to make their threads interesting, unlike OP

Does it even have the cheats CEMU has? The game would be unplayable without rhem.

Just got the Ares 90. What all do I put on it to make it OP as fuck?

Yeah instead they pollute the board with off-topic garbage, much better

too stupid to understand real MMOs

neither do weakaura/dbm users like you KEK

Custom WP Atk on the Agashura cannon.
Opening Art DMG on everything else.

Either X or 2. You're either grinding for materials, material tickets or weapons with semi-perfect rolls (you're never getting perfect rolls stop lying to yourself(me)). Not to mention the exploration which isn't a grind but will take a long time. And then if you're crazy you can do holo completion and if you're dead inside there's achievement completion.
2 has you grinding for 99% of all Blade's affinity nodes even if you'll never use said blade. The last 1% is if you're dead inside and decide to complete the Vess, Gorg and Vale's crafting nodes which are a whole lot of grinding the loading screen for no reward.

How would you guys rank all the xeno games, from gears to saga to blade?

Nothing, it comes fully ready to one/two-tap 99% of the game. Now's the perfect time to go get your revenge on Go-Rah

pal copy

Heres your bump, but im not participating in this thread.

Based and succinctpilled. Now buckle in for the next thousand hours of collecting bug parts, overkilling indigens, and praying to RNGesus for that one stupid drop.

I only watched the cutscenes for the Xenosaga trilogy and played Gears up until a random encounter stopped me mid-jump on a particularly slippery platforming segment so I will not be ranking them. The moment Xenogears gets a mod that fixes the Gears jump physics, call me and I'll give it another spin.

That said:
X > 2 > FR > Torna > 3 > 1 >>>> FC

Plot device mech that can access the afterlife is significantly weaker than a copy of it that puts some wheels on.

I rank the series pretty much the same except maybe 3 beating Torna. Haven't played FC though.

Coomposting is Anon Babble culture

I doubt it really matters but you can upgrade the original a shitload

It's okay, but it really is the weakest of the bunch.
Imagine Xenoblade 1 combat but no vision, no chain attacks and the only party comps you can make WILL have one of the following:

AI Shulk

AI Melia

Sharla

There's some good music and cute heart-to-hearts but that's about it. The antagonists are particularly awful, even by Xenoblade standards.
It's like a 6/10 game in a series that never scored below a 8.5 before or since.

Chapter 13 really felt phoned in, in a lot of ways.

I guess the planet at the end is in the same universe at the end of 3? Guess Takahashi will join them up at some point.

He uses 'tendie', he's a sonyfag who doesn't even have games, go easy on him.

Gameplay wise it's bullshit but story wise it makes sense

Samarians weren't necessarily planning on using it as weapon

they're more focused on the magic bullshit it's capable of

Elma doesn't actually know everything that it can do

humanity and her assume its primary function is being a weapon

they base the first skells from it, hence why it shares it stats with level 20 skells

they work on improving skells once they have resources from Mira

I guess the planet at the end is in the same universe at the end of 3?

Hard to say, guess we'll have to wait and see. One thing's for sure, if it IS in the same universe, then it either isn't Earth, or it's set far into the past or future of post-XC3 Earth, since that Earth didn't have an orbital ring unlike some OTHER planet from the Xeno lore...

For infinite rng grind, it's the weapon/armor/skell weapon grind in XBX and the macha accessory crafting in XB3.
For a super long grind with a definite end point, it's maxing out affinity coins in XB1 and maxing out all the affinity charts/idea levels, trust levels etc in XB2 including for Vandham.
For the truly insane who want a super long but not infinite rng grind, it's maxing out idea levels in Torna. Most people don't even know that's a thing. But it's completely evil and I highly recommend against it.

The wheels one is made with vita parts and yggdralith parts too.

I’m trying to make a ground build after ignoring it all game this is cancer the odds of getting what you want are abysmal

I would settle for getting just 1 good trait on the weapon to avoid going mad. I say this while still trying to grind for a raygun with ranged attack and ether attack despite already having one with ranged attack, ranged accuracy and TP gain.
Remember to switch to the class that uses the weapon you're trying to get and to set party members who use that weapon if you're not already.

The trick is not wanting too much. 3 traits, all good and specific good ones you want it asking too much of very very low odds.

yeah you can max it's attributes out, which i guess is because you only get the one and can't really do it over

How can you rank 2 so high? First one?

Is it possible to complete the game solo? I hate having to have party members because they keep getting in the way.

Yes but also no. You don't actually need them at all but you probably want to work on affinity to unlock some stuff and sometimes they force you to carry dead weight along

How can you not rank 2 high? Ignoring anime titties it improved over XB1 in leaps and bounds. Better world, better music, better sidequests, better plot, better combat, etc.

he doesn't see value in a pizza-based economy

The only good bug is is a dead bug, right?

Works on my machine.

Did you enjoy Clair Obscur?

born in a tank

no wonder they look undercooked. they should leave them in longer

Sorry for the off topic but anything I should work on before doing NG+ in Xeno 2?
I've unlocked all blades, maxed out all affinities except for fucking Vess and Gorg. I've cleared any side quest in the menu but I don't know if there's more left in the world, not even sure if it would be important.

Shit's fugly

Did you obtain the Dilaton Chips from the treasure chest in the World Tree you can access after beating Ophion? Did you make any progress in challenge battles?

Haven't played it yet because I heard the Steam Deck version was pretty bad and I'm too busy with X.

niggas still pissed they can't make Lin naked

Better world, better sidequests, better combat are absolutely things that X had first. I understand that better music is subjective but I love Sawano’s X soundtrack; plot is definitely a step down if you only consider what the “main story” is and not all the environmental and side story worldbuilding

120hrs on old emu version

i'm eventually going to finish it. i still don't know how overdrive works yet i killed telethia with a meme build. on ch 11 i think and i finished up all the side quests i could find, so i think i'm ready for end game, whenever i get around to it

Make sure you defeat Artifice Opheon at the Cliffs of Morytha, he drops a keycard that unlocks a chest with some rare core chips in the World Tree.

Make sure you finish feeding the Ardun to max level, then kill it so you can spawn it from its tombstone in NG+ without having to feed him all over again.

If you've finished Ursula's quest, make sure you've looked at her affinity chart to actually unlock her nodes, don't be like that one Anon that had to redo the quest in NG+ because he jumped the gun.

being born from artificial wombs doesn't mean neilnail and celica lack vaginas

After waiting 10 years, I think the new story chapter wasn't good. It should've stayed with the sci-fi alien planet setting instead of moving to multi-dimensional gods. What's the deal with those Ghost thingies anyway? Why did the writers decide to make Elma so lame?
That being said, it's still the best Xenoblade game by a mile.

I’m pretty sure the move to multi-dimensional gods was probably intended to be part of the X story eventually, but after another game or two instead of being rushed into a single chapter

The Ghosts are just Gnosis in all but name.

So is the Xenoblade X story actually going to continue or did Chapter 13 definitively end that story? Remember that they said they were going to continue the X story in future installments?

I used to be one of those 'hurr durr this is the best one' but after replaying it, I think it's the worst, it has the best open world but the quest quality is garbage and the combat is fake depth

This is the reason I spent the entire game with face masks or helmets on. My character in both versions of the game looked exactly like that too except with very dark blue hair. I wanted to be bald or have Doug's hairstyle this time but they removed those options for shitty references to other Xeno characters.

Well, they certainly ended the game on a perfect excuse to start a new game on: the arrival at a brand new planet to explore and colonize.

The ghosts probably yeah. Takahashi fucking loves the gnosis

the quest quality is garbage

Nigga what

I don't think they'll continue X itself but it will be a building block of whatever Takahashi's planning next. Definitely ghosts will be involved.
If the Ares is the same kind of technology as the Ouroboros in 3/FR, then Shulk's son and Riku accidentally replicated ancient samaarian technolgy and therefore ghosts will come to rape their world regardless of if it's factually connected to the X world or not. They're both set up to be attacked by ghosts now.

They didn't resolve the Ghost storyline, since it's not like they won't destroy the new universe they're in. So yeah. And like the other anon said, new planet.

Yep, you guessed it. Still staring at Elma's butt.

The actual level design in 2 is worse than 1's. The world isn't better either, but not necessarily worse; they're both great. 3 dropped the ball in that department.
The sidequests in 2 aren't better than the ones in 1 either. They're all kinda forgettable and unsubstantial. 1 had a lot of filler quests but it had some really cool ideas for some of the others.
2's plot is abysmal compared to 1.
2's combat was good but it was pretty linear in its structure of just building up a combo into a higher tier combo and then turning that combo into an even higher tier then having to pop it in a chain attack. I think 1's had a lot more variety in its actual Arts, even if a lot of them weren't anywhere near as viable as others. That's more of a numbers balancing issue than a greater conceptual one though.
The music in both games are equally amazing, even in 3.

Al...

I said what I said, not all the quests are good and there are about 5 million of them, I realized I was starting to hate the game when I tried to clean up my map of a lot of them and see more content instead of doing the fun part of the game; the world map. Given that everyone, even people who love the game admit the storyline is dogshit, what is my motivation to even keep playing? In XC1-3 I was compelled to do the story AND explore the world, sure the worlds aren't as good as Mira but it doesn't carry this game to the top spot in the series like people like to make out that it does.

NTA but I did find myself just teleporting from point A to B most of the time

I'm tired of Takahashi rehashing his previous ideas just because he wants another chance. I want something new. Xenoblade 1 was something new at first and it was great, and so was X, but then he had to stroke his ego and try to shoehorn it into his other ideas that got snubbed.

It's weird because it actually spoils that in the info tab before you even can do that mission.

Lol it was funny seeing an "atheist" zaruboggan lose his mind about learning that golboga was human and they are another engineered race instead of evolving from literal garbage. Their planet probably had some samaarians that fucked the entire planet with pollution and then created zarubogans to eat the garbage lol. Very funny.

who knows. i'd hope that Chapter 13's retcons were because they had ideas for a sequel that they need to railroad X into but it's just as possible they absorb it into the numbered games or touch it again

Elma's black firm buttocks on my face

How is it even a debate that 2 hasn't got the best combat in the series? 1 is literally 2 but super simplified, 3 is actually auto pilot and X is the most overrated thing ever, there are an absolute shit ton of gearsets and weapons and arts in X that make you think the game has a super flexible combat system when it fact it just a few OP builds and 99% of the other stuff isn't worth using. At least 2 made your Blade setups relevant and also the branching paths all had a function, before the DE of X added instant cooldowns it was also the only combat in the series that let you cancel autos for super fast arts

I was wondering why no one points out how useless the majority of gear in this game is, they really just bombard you with stats to make it feel deep

Xenoblade 1 was something new at first

Oh please

"God" just wants our lives as fuel to perpetuate his own existence

Thankfully the protagonist is favored by the Wave Exist- I mean Alvis who is tired to be exploited by the self-appointed tyrant God

The edgy villain from the start of the game turns out to have been working to kill God and end his cycle of tyranny, and while his actions are not justifiable, they are understandable

In the end, God is destroyed by his own creation

All the mystic shit is actually sci-fi

Xenoblade 1 was already full Xeno, and full of recycled ideas and themes

>>>> FC

I liked it a lot for what it is, I don't get what people hated so much about it.
IMO, it being short was better than Torna overstaying its welcome with the forced sidequests.
But I guess I'm biased because I'm a Meliachad.

2 is way more simple than 1. All games in Xenoblade are supposed to have a super flexible combat system in theory but they suck at balancing it or just don't care to since it's a single player game, so the dominant strategy naturally is going to be the most used one. The branching paths of 2's elemental orb sealing was never used because whatever boss you were fighting would only have one type of debuff that would be a threat to you, so you would just make sure to seal that off first with whatever elemental orb it was. Then you rinse and repeat with whatever other combos your AI party members feel like helping you set up and then once you have a few you just hit chain attack and delete the last 60% of the enemy's healthbar in one burst.

2 is way more simple than 1

Stopped reading there

How is it even a debate that 2 hasn't got the best combat in the series?

Because it doesn't. 3 does, even 1 is better. I enjoy X more than 2 even though X is objectively the most broken, messy combat system.

How is Egil edgy? He's not even evil, he's literally the only one of his race doing the only thing they can do to make sure Zanza is punished for what he's done. Sure he sometimes says a moustache twirly line here or there but it doesn't change the fact that he's doing what he does for the greater good. It's because of these similar sentiments that he shares with Shulk that they're able to reach an understanding when all the cards are down and his back is against the wall.

Samefag.

3 does

Like I said, 3's combat is autopilot, with 6 team mates all pulling their weight your contribution is mostly done in the pre planning phase

Already resorting to samefag accusations.

Pathetic.

t.

No because I don't think 3 has the best combat system.

Shit on the blade gacha all you want, but it directly affected your combat experience in 2 and it was fun making it work

That was a nice perk, but it came at the cost of sending completionfags like me into insanity.

We can all agree that early game plains are GOAT'd though, yeah?

I didn't care about the gacha. I cared about not letting me skip all the scenes until 2 months after the game came out and I had already suffered through all of that empty time.

It got really old by 3. Milick Meadows is so small and boring compared to the others.

They're ok, but for me it's snow (and spore) areas

Concession accepted.

and it was fun making it work

It wasn't.

Redpill me on X if I loved 1. The combat seems the same, but now I see there are "augments and mech" shit. Also what is the best class for your character to be OP to take on super bosses? I was just going to go with a team of Elma, Lin, and Irena or whatever he name is.

BotW if it was Sci-Fi and good and actually had a plot

best class

You have to master like 3 of them to access their weapons and skills as different classes, but drifter with longsword and dual guns seem to be the #1 build. There are tons of guides for OP builds out there.

team

You can use whoever you like, a bulk of the game is handled by you alone

The combat is very similar except you have overdrive instead of chain attacks and it's way way way more broken. Augments are like the gems in 1 but much easier to understand. Give you tons of customization options so you can run any kind of build at all if you want to put the effort into it. Skells are also highly customizable and less broken than your main guy will be on foot which is hilarious.

augments

Basically gems

mechs

Ignore them

best class for your character to be OP to take on super bosses?

All of them work and you should be leveling all of them up so you can mix and match weapons. In which case the question should be

Which weapons to be OP?

All of them still work. Longsword + dual guns is was most people (sheep) like.

I was just going to go with a team of Elma, Lin, and Irena

Sure why not. The player character is the only one that matters.

Drifter class for skill slots, dual guns for decoy invincibility, and longsword for huge melee damage. That's pretty much it.

I like Overdrive more than Chain Attacks.

What happened to Takahashi saying that X was the first game that would set up a story arc with it intentIonally having less story so that the world gets developed first and then the story can be focused on in the next game(s)? How can the continue the story considered what happened to the world?

Takahashi says a lot of things.

What happened to Takahashi saying that X was the first game that would set up a story arc with it intentIonally having less story so that the world gets developed first and then the story can be focused on in the next game(s)?

i'm pretty sure that's what not what he said
at best he said focusing on learning HD development and story at the same time was difficult so they focused less on the story

Interesting. I've done all of Neilnail's and Celica's affinity missions and heart to hearts and it hasn't unlocked yet.

X is like 1 if Shulk was the only character who didn't die every single battle.

I hope either X2 or Xenoblade 4 start off in a snow/spore area with a ton of fog blocking your vision.

all generals are supposed to be on Anon Babble

i want to make my character an aryan but i dont like the yellow/blonde hair options on xenoblade x DE, did the wii u have better yellow/blonde hair options?

I did almost all quests before chapter 13 because fags said the world would change. There is only super bosses and divine nopopon remaining. I will probably skip the super boss ones. Now I feel empty...

This but unironically

Started the series at the beginning of the year, have systematically been playing every game since then and just finished XB3 last night, starting Future Redeemed sometime soon. That was... just alright. Itbdidnt reach the heights of 1, 2 or especially X. XB3 felt really sterile, it lacked a personality almost. It was fine but far from the best in series.
X > 2+Torna > 1+FC > 3

But do you think Xenoblade X enemies will show up in the next game? It’s really silly that they made so many enemy designs for this game and gave them all lore and never reused them in any future game

I hope I can see the dumbass clapping birds and the schlorp dinosaurs again.

probably some of my favorite enemy designs in any game, but i wouldn't be surprised if they never returned. that's just how it is on this bitch of a mira.

Yeah, soloing the game is fun

I really appreciate using the compare gear thing to quickly swap augments around. It's pretty useful and I would've never thought of it as a possible QoL myself
I also like favoriting a bunch of augments and then sorting by favorites but removing each from favorites as I'm equipping them to speed the process up. Really useful for changing between the different Slayer.X augments as the need for them arises

Yeah, I want to see millesaurs and saltats and sylooths and scarier enemies like filliavents again, stuff from the trilogy like brogs and armus and arachnos and vangs start getting old especially when 3 spammed the hell out of them, the more intimidating and large enemies in X really helped sell the atmosphere

saltats are space tirkin.

I got every achievement wooo
I'm kind of sad to part with the game now but that was very fulfilling

Is there any way to make heroic tale more effective? It's maxed out and I'm considering running it on myself and Neil with Irina and Hope to make sure I always have control res down, but I don't even know if that's individual per character or if that actually has any effect on how often you raise enemy level.

Why were they such huge assholes when it comes to the enemies that drop Ultra Infinite Candid & Credible gear in general, and their placements and levels?

Resistance Reducer XX augment(s) and/or EZ Debuff Probes placed in the region where you’re fighting, I put a single Resistance Reducer XX on my Neil and her Heroic Tale has never failed (on subsceptible targets) even after like a hundred hours of farming

how do i make a zenith cannon skell?
is it lvl 60 amdusias armor on a lvl 60 mastema, plus a ton of ranged, phys up, opening art, etc augments?

This skill is an absolute must. And it allows you to raise the enemy levels to 6 instead of 5.

32 Grex Wisdom Teeth, 32 Thick Millesaur Hides, 8 Parhelion Platinum

Oh god damn it. This will be a significant detour on my path to getting literally any gear with aura rapid cooldown on it.I might have to get nintendo's gay online just to farm in this game.

You could just nuke Wenzel in Oblivia for hours to try for the Aura Rapid Cooldown gear if you’re okay with that
Neil can achieve the same as long as you control her and use Heroic Tale via quick cooldown at the start of battle to get its secondary cooldown effect immediately, although it’s less effective if you’re fighting multiple enemies whose levels need to be raised by 6 at the same time

It's not necessary to continue X's story on Mira. The alien races, other potential surviving human ships, the Ghosts, new planets etc are all viable plot avenues. Going into speculative territory, to me it felt like they may have thought staying on Mira and in NLA would've limited what they could come up with for a sequel. We don't even know what their original plans may have been back when the game first came out, if there were any. The story was already patently unfinished and not delving into Void and the Ghosts after setting them up so much was just plain odd. Even the idea for Volitaris was already in the artbook. Personally I think they just repurposed things they'd already planned including the crew leaving Mira at the end.

I am pretty sure Lost Jerusalem (aka Earth) had a ring in Xenosaga.
They just really likes their rings.

Our real Earth also apparently had rings in the Ordovician period. It can be any Earth from any alternative dimension really.

Brogs are based thougheverbeit

Yeah nah, its the earth from FR's ending. Too many things matches to not be it.

Too many things matches

?? It's not the same texture for the landmasses and only X's has rings.

I've finally done all the missions I could before chapter 10
I've hit every single FN site in every region except cauldros which I still have to explore most of
I'm at like 60+% mira survey at 250 hours
how am I doing
also can someone give me a hint about where to find the space pirate water
just a a TINY HINT

also can someone give me a hint about where to find the space pirate water

You can find it in unmarked spots in any region. In Primordia, there's one close to the entrance to a cave in an area with a large body of water.

Mimi is dumb

Wait, so it's just anywhere near water?

youtube.com/watch?v=5wGJ2ONIVZA
Leaving this here for reference, OOB method for easier Receding Rust farm

Yes, but it's one of those red collectible crystals so it's usually pretty hard to see and only in very specific spots.

It’s a red item orb, it can be found in at least 2 known locations with water, both in caves
1 cave is in Primordia and the other is in Cauldros, the Primordia cave is near a very notable body of water and also behind water

1/10 got me to reply

Why do people who shit on 2's combat never have any idea what they are talking about?

so you would just make sure to seal that off first with whatever elemental orb it was. Then you rinse and repeat with whatever other combos your AI party members feel like helping you set up

That's literally not how seals work. Only the most recent is applied, if you start doing other combos you will just replace it.

The guy you're replying to is a known schizo.

Oy

So, I'm looking for treasure in the residential area but can't find it. Do I have to talk to someone to get the segment unlock?

They hated him because he told the truth

Projection so strong he had to post it twice

where to find the space pirate water

i always thought they were more like the luminoth, personally

Did you clear chapter 8 yet? Or did you jump down to the water below and check? I think there’s a treasure down there at the water level

It better not be the one who wanted to shit on 2 with a webm of the Malos/Ahkos fight where he dies despite having Corvin and the evasion art off cooldown.

I already beat the game. I look up and it's suppose to be somewhere near the Cathedral

Are you a hothead?

There's a container in the parking lot of the church. IIRC it requires the Mechanical field skill.

He keeps calling XC2 the "worst in the series" and the "black sheep" in every thread. It's really obvious because he uses the same shitposts every time

sex with Lin

I notice it, but it doesn't allow me to do anything with it.