Why is it so hard for them to just make doom 2016 again?

Why is it so hard for them to just make doom 2016 again?

What's wrong with the new one? keep in mind I haven't played it or eternal for that matter just 2016

Because 2016 was fucking boring and retard easy.
Eternal is the only playable one out of the new doom games

They don't understand what people want and this game reeks of last minute change for a different project

Tutorial popups every 5 feet to teach you arbitrary and made up mechanics that make no sense.

Konami should be making Rengoku games

I don't spend more than $40 on games and I have enough of a backlog to keep me busy for years.

Be honest with my guys. I find Doom the Dark Ages cool and ask what really is wrong with the game itself, but I never get an answer besides people saying it's gay or Reddit, or it plays like shit when it's people just standing and shooting, not even moving while shooting just standing. I just want to know what this says about me, because I think this game is cool and plan to get it for my new PC that's coming soon.

getting shot at from 20 different directions in an open field isn't fun

the additions to the game range from padding to dogshit and unfun
its like they just were marking off checkboxes and had no real ideas on how to improve the game

They should take the parry shit out

I think you can get rid of that in the setting though that's not a good excuse

New blood seem to have gotten the concept of doom down.
let them give it a try.

it's the doom 3 of modern doom meaning not doom at all

Holy shit, culture in MY Anon Babble???
youtube.com/watch?v=Im7qaQ1o65s

I want doom 3, Doom 2016 is all colorful and dumb. It's for kids. You ever walk around in the dark with a bunch of flesh fiesting zombies and no flashlight? Exactly.

Because they want the retarded capeshit and hero shooter audience. They forgot how to make a proper straight forward FPS without the cringe dialogue and idiotic superpowers. Blame shitters for praising Eternal and Hugo Martin for taking over iD.

this game is so fucking ass
this is what you get for complaining about eternal. you get slop

we think Eternal is slop

Eternal was the slop, this is a course correction back towards being a decent shooter. Inferior to 2016 still though.

2016 sucked

we

ah yes eternal was the slop and not the one with the MCU story and aesthetic, the retarded ass dragon flying segments, the difficulty sliders, etc.

yes eternal is slop
you dont have weapons only cooldowns for the "gameplay loop"

I’m sure they will go back to the eternal formula after this.

Absolutely mindbroken slop defender

may you both stub your toes extremely hard in the near future

Almost certainly not. But this game feels like a B team spinoff. I have a feeling the next main iD game will be Quake 5 and doing something equally different.

Doom Eternal was mostly fine except for the marauder, feels like an enemy that belongs in a different game as it makes the game slam to a screeching halt because they block everything until you parry them. though once i got better weapons i just killed them with splash damage.

That garbage totally ruined that game. Alongside the incomprehensible story, awful platforming, and overall terrible gameplay loop built around needing to constantly glorykill or chainsaw enemies for supplies every two seconds. Dark Ages got rid of all that cancer and it's genuinely based for it.

Why are you arguing with a samefag with bangladesh ip?

Game itself is fun
Story is a mess

T. Got it for ""free"" with a 5070

i didn't buy the previous games i just played it via gamepass since i pay for that subscription specifically so my son has a selection of games to play, he just has standard not ultimate when i asked him what he wanted, since most of the day 1 releases tend to be rated M anyway or EA/Ubisoft crap.

ill probably give dark ages a try when it hits standard gamepass since when you can just play it as a consequence of something your paying for regardless it doesn't feel too bad if your not super into it.

I don't understand how I've played and greatly enjoyed 2016 three times yet I struggled to get through one playthrough of eternal and have quickly stopped out of boredom in all subsequent attempts. they don't seem that different. it's just simply not near as fun to me. i even just reinstalled it to give it another shot because i feel like i should like it.

Eternal's gunplay feels like ass, the level design is gone replaced by retarded platforming segments and dull arenas like a Painkiller/Serious Sam clone, and the graphics are way worse with a cartoony art style. They really aren't comparable, 2016 is a great FPS and Eternal is cringe.

the level design is gone

Doom 2016 didn't have "level design" you just moved from arena to arena except for that stupid forge map

its why i quit. that and the boring dragon parts. how can you fuck up riding a dragon so bad.

Posting a classic
youtube.com/watch?v=ss8SyOhqk1I

I find Doom the Dark Ages cool and ask what really is wrong with the game itself, but I never get an answer besides people saying it's gay or Reddit,

What more do you need explained? It's fucking lame. The art design is uninspired. The humor sucks. The world building and storytelling are shit, and there's a ton of it so you can't even ignore it. The gameplay is a box of gimmicks and toys.

There is also a deeper element of disappointment in how both Eternal and Dark Ages miss what was tonally captivating about Doom 2016. Both the newer nu Doom games are simply too happy. You're a retarded autistic version of master chief wandering around an underbaked scifi splat for D&D 5E and getting jerked off at every opportunity about how cool you are for killing cartoon monsters and collecting fucking funko pops. It's an R rated super hero movie.

Doom 2016 reveled in a much darker, more primal headspace about killing people you hate for the the simple reason that they fucking deserve it. It's a spree killer simulator wearing the trappings of a scifi action romp. What little lore it bothers to present only serves to remind the player that yes, the people you are killing understand what you are doing and are afraid. The thesis statement is four words long: You Will Be Worse. This raw hostility, this cruelty, is entirely absent in Eternal and Dark Ages. And that's lame!

Eternal already had MCU story and aesthetic

killing people you hate

you arent killing people

The demons in doom are people. They are sapient, have free will, have personal goals and ambitions, they can feel pride, fear, and pain. They are also evil, and deserve total genocide. Being a person is not an excuse, nor is it grounds for mercy.

The humor sucks.

Just played it and I don't think there's a single joke in the game other than Doomguy playing with the Serrat toy
Literally what do you mean

Eternal's nowhere close to MCU, Anon Babble needs to figure out how to criticize things

Just remembered shooting the ferryman, but that's it

and they said compating our humanity to funk pops was considered nihilism.

Doom 2016? You mean the game where you can just walk around in circles around the enemies and they always miss you?

Eternal has enemies that actually track your movement. and predict shots.

they got high off the memes and tried to cater to the memes instead of making doom

Nothing. It feels so much fucking better to play than Eternal, it's actually insane. Best gunplay I've felt in an FPS in many years

They are sapient, have free will, have personal goals and ambitions

No they aren't
Not having free will and being pure evil is what makes demons demons

Those can be disabled.

And then you dont know how to play the game because none of it makes any sense.

They're not being controlled. They just fucking suck.

Yes they are, the game literally makes a point of this many times

No, it doesn't. Not mind controlled, anyway.

It becomes more and more obvious that Doom 2016 was just a happy accident. They used doom1 as a template, lifted action elements from doom2, horror elements from doom3, borrowed fangame elements, hired a popular game composer who's gimmick was remixes and it all just happened to stick to the wall.

Don't be sad its over. Be glad it even happened.

it's time to accept that 2016 not sucking ass was just a stroke of luck

The demons are all literal slaves to the ones above them
You just wish they weren't because you fantasize about being a murderere

All they had to do was make real levels and not force you into a single arena then get rid of the pinatas, it's those two things that ruin the game.

you might be right

2016 was a compromise for them
They want you to like what THEY like and not the other way around

I cannot believe how much salt these games generate lol

salt

Seems more like apathy to me, little bro.

Of course they are. That's not an excuse.

I can't believe how shit and forgettable the music is in Dark Ages.

This game is Doom's Quake 2.

Slaves don't have free will, that's what slavery is

This is the only nu-Doom with proper bunnyhopping. I never want to hear Eternaltrannies badmouth this while shilling their garbage ever again, proper Quake 1 gameplay is back.

Quake 2 is really considered this shitty?

same
the only two songs I remember are the title screen song and the one from the first level since that one's just "Opening to Hell"

Every nuDoom goes for a completely different gameplay style. On one hand, that's really respectable and has given each game an identity worth returning to. On the other hand, each style has issues that don't get ironed out in the next because it starts from Square One. I'm pretty early in DA so far but I think I'll enjoy its overall combat better than 2016 (outside of Arcade Mode at least) and it seems like it'll lack Eternal's highs and lows for the sake of consistency (outside of mech/dragon stuff evidently). Eternal's got some real mechanical bloat and mediocre bosses compared to 2016 but it had a great format.

take away the novelty of 3d acceleration and it really isn't a very good game

How many of the 22 chapters are mech or dragon chapters? Just bracing myself.

3 of each iirc

You are thus commanded to rank the Quakes, the Halos, and the Half Lives.

the mech ones are shorter tho

The fact that the marketing for a fucking Doom game encourages you to stand still during combat was enough for me to write it off

and dragon chapters are usually interspersed with ground combat, whereas atlan chapters are usually all mech with the exception of the last one since that has a boss fight on foot after the mech segment

i dont think you played the game

It's full of problems alongside feeling too grandiose. pacing issues combined with lazy level design, arbitrary conditions to kill specific demons (especially dlc demons and the faggot marauder), and far too much content makes it beyond inferior to 2016. they should've just kept it self-contained, short and sweet is the way to go for DOOM.

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Because instead of whining about the game being different, you'd be whining about it being the same.

I wish we didn’t have 20 Doom threads but what pisses me off is you can’t really even Stand and Fight. The game wants you to move just like Eternal especially when there’s a cyberdemon, cacodemon, or one of those shitty komodos on the field

Turn Game Speed up to max

Widest Parry Window

Oh yeah, it's videogames time

pisses me off is you can’t really even Stand and Fight. The game wants you to move just like Eternal

When did you ever stand and fight in any other Doom game?

This game fucks so hard, I'm all like

"PEW PEW PEW KA-BLOWEY! PEW PEW PEW KA-BLOWEY! BOOOOOOM!!" >:D

I’m just saying, if your tagline of your game advertises something and you can’t do it, it’s a bit strange. It’s also strange how melee combat is braindead and there’s no way of swapping without fucking off into the menu and yet it’s essentially mandatory

You do know the phrase "stand and fight" doesn't literally mean stay still in one spot, right? Do you think soldiers on battlefields stand and fight by rooting themselves in the open to be shot and killed?

well said

Do you think soldiers on battlefields stand and fight by rooting themselves in the open to be shot and killed?

That's typically what it means yeah, you stand in your foxhole and wait to die
People in real wars don't bunnyhop around parrying tank shells

They root themself in cover to provide overwatch and THEN be shot and killed