Nox is better than Diablo
Nox is better than Diablo
yeah? and so will titan quest II be
by virtue of not being a seasonal game alone
can actually fix her the game
but she turns into a boring blond instead of staying sexy goth
Last Epoch is the best clicker ever made and I'm tired of pretending it's not
It was the better game but it never had any sequels so it died off. Had so many fund childhood memories playing Nox.
Amidst all the Diablo clones it's the one worth playing because it does things differently. Real question is which class is the best one?
I liked the elegant solution to every class having its own story while also re-using assets.
best is probably wizard, but I only ever beat the game with warrior. Conjurer is the coolest concept, summoning literally any NPC monster in the game to fight for you is cool as fuck
Throne of Darkness is also pretty unique. Dungeon Siege did the whole party-based hacking and slashing better though. I wish their take was copied more.
For me it is Darkstone.
I played this again recently and it doesn't hold up. It's super rudimentary and a bunch of enemies have immunity to magic so you can get cockblocked if you're magic. The puzzles are cute when you're young
It stinks
Sorry bud but diablo 2 is still top dog. Even more so now with pd2.
Titan quest was always a bit boring tbqhfamalam.
Making builds was fun but playing the game sure wasnt
oh no a dragon
right click right click
oh no! A mummy
right click right click
Oh no! A boss mummy
1, right click right click
but that is fixing her, adult women who are still into subcultures meant for confused teenagers are mentally ill, they should be mothers focusing on raising their offspring at that point
Wizard is the most fun imo.
She is not in an actual subculture, she just kind of looks like a goth *for a lack of better term* and that's it. She would be better if she kept that aesthetic, not a generic and boring fake blond.
>oh no a dragon
>right click right click
>oh no! A mummy
>right click right click
>Oh no! A boss mummy
, right click right click
That's literally the whole genre
Cox lol
buy an ad
Agreed. Wish they made a sequel to it though.
Warrior. I just like beating shit to death.
Tradfag zoomers (in their Orthodog, Cathonigs Protistic and sometimes Jizzlamic varieties) are just so fucking devoid of any life experience, intelligence and wisdom that they actually think this shit unironically. Imagine thinking a boring, generic woman with no interests is better than a woman with good looks and an actual personality.
The only time that a woman being in a subculture is outright bad is when it borders on occult nonsense like Wicca/wichcraft or that other overtly demonic shit. Goth shit is not even close to being mentally ill, you underaged turd.
The jiggle physics in that game were nice.
Why the fuck did we never get a spiritual successor to it?
Imagine thinking a boring, generic woman with no interests is better than a woman with good looks and an actual personality.
"Goth" is a paint-by-numbers clique subculture for teenagers in high school. These women are the female equivalent of manchildren. Get more life experience and you'll understand why you don't actually want a goth wife.
Wasn't this game made by the developers of diablo 2?
"Goth" is a paint-by-numbers clique subculture for teenagers in high school.
The first goth chicks were women in their 20s-30s, you retard. Even now, there's still women in that age range that do that shit.
These women are the female equivalent of manchildren.
I've talked to goth chicks about very regular mundane things that a manchild would never even think of talking about. Just because a woman wants to stick out stylishly doesn't mean she's the next Chris-chan.
Get more life experience and you'll understand why you don't actually want a goth wife.
I don't. I'm just sick of zoomers pretending as if they have any and thinking a boring 1950s era housewife who's addicted to psychiatric meds and a bunch of other shit is magically better because of their poor understanding of their religion.
Based and NoXpilled.
Like most cliques, goth chicks are just attention seeking. They've just survived the 2000s (unlike scene and emo) because of the big titty goth gf meme
It had some Diablo 2 staff, the project leads were Diablo 2's character designer and one of Diablo 2 programmers.
I will now play your game
Divine Divinity is better than Nox.
Another Westwood classic
Sacred is better than both
She can be a goth wife/mom.
If only Larian games had gameplay that doesn't devolve to barrelmancy...
Literally every game they made is just "get a chest and fill it with heavy bullshit then throw it around the battlefield to one shot everyone even bosses".
they should have left out the teleported from modern world to medieval magic world thing
i know back to the future was still popular culture at the time but it was already played out
better
At what?
This game is older than you and the developer is long defunct.
so don't cheat? is that so hard? apparently yes
In terms of atmosphere I still think Throne of Darkness came the closet to Diablo. It was also the first of these games I remember REALLY drowning you in loot. I wish there was a sequel to flesh out some ideas.
or at least play the damn thing in beyond 800x600 resolution which is apparently hardcoded
Dungeon Siege 1.
God I miss this game. One of the few games out there where I wouldn't have hated a remake or an HD port of it. Granted I have no idea who owns Westwoods IPs now.
The only thing about this game I remember is fancy mouse pointer with particle effects. It was very cool back then.
bro just play suboptimally just ignore the game mechanics and handicap yourself then the game will be fun
If you can use in game mechanics to achieve a result, its not cheating.
everyman gets sucked into artifact
becomes one of three cool classes
fights fantasy monsters and becomes super powerful
gets the hot goth gf at the end
all in all one of my favorite games...but better than d2? not so sure about that
>gets the hot goth gf at the end
Only Wizard does.
better
At what?
Which was worse? Warrior in Wizard town or wizard in warrior town? And only wizard goes to hell.
People forget each class had its own story in Nox.
Warrior in wizard town was a joke, all they did was run and all you had to do is harpoon and charge them to one shot them. Its was more like an annoyance than anything chasing them all down when they proved no threat.
Where as going as a wizard to the warrior town was rough since you could be one shot even through barrier, and they would chase you down and harpoon you.
Which ARPGs do the survival horror aspect best?
I liked the restriction of limited supplies, not having free healing on tap, etc.
Depends on what you mean by "worse". Inter-faction hostility sucks major arse after you learn about the game's world and have to see (and unwillingly participate in) the tragedy firsthand. As for difficulty or maybe tedium everything pales in comparison to the swamp and everyone goes through that green hell like with Fields of Valour (which are fun).
Warrior really could have used some more abilities. He's fun to play but the other two classes have more fun things for variety.
It's been ages since I played it but I remember warrior against wizards being annoying as fuck because of teleporters. They always ran from you and there was a bunch of teleport fuckery
Where as going as a wizard to the warrior town was rough since you could be one shot even through barrier, and they would chase you down and harpoon you.
You get Invisibility and Traps. No excuses, go back to gittin gud.
You get Invisibility
You didn't beat the game.
since there are a bunch of old nerds here
I'm trying to remember a game that looks kind of like the thing I remember most from it was if you stole something a dude would appear and surround you with a ring of fire (?) and blow you up
implying I only ever beat it once with each class
I beat it once without abusing Invisibility. It's more tedium than it's worth. By the same reasoning you could argue that Charge or Harpoon are OP pls nerf. All classes having fun broken shit is why it's so good.
Grim Dawn lets me be a magic gunslinger that shoots bullets made of fire and lightning which makes it the best by default.
I believe that could be Ultima 7 or 8
I miss the giant fist falling from the sky.
Tower of Kalemonvo
I think it is ultima 8, I recognised some stuff when I looked for it (though my memory of it has warped since it has been like 25 years)
Diablo 1 is the best ARPG
Played pic related a few years ago and thought it was pretty fun. Are the sequels any good?
more of the same. I wasn't a big fan of tower defense headquarters.
Only really good in bombers with Stun or if you're willing to very carefully manage casting it directly (just remember that only one fist can be active at a time so either a bomber will fail or your direct spell). Force of Nature is way better if you do it right. But you get it pretty late.
Nox was the best game. Gameplay was SSS-tier, especially the multiplayer.
Wizard the GOAT. Most creative play and best drip.
After playing Nox I could never understand all the games that make spellcasters stand still to cast spells.
average
moderate
normal
what the fuck
Just play as a Warriror until you an understand.
I went for conjurer the first time I played it, so I kinda prefer him more.
I think he means that those are three different words that all mean the same thing.
Use War Cry for stunning those pesky spell casters and preventing them from doing magic.
one game that could actually use a good remaster and release on platforms other than EA's cancer
Agreed
You've piqued my interest so I've pirated this. I hope it's as good as you claim.
that intro
what's wrong with the evil chick's legs? I can't tell because the video's grainy but it felt like she was on stumps or something.
Also I can tell this gon be good, thanks nigs.
Hope you don't get filtered by the movement. It's a 10/10 game once you get used to the controls.
Nothing wrong with her aside from possibly early 3D being closer to the opposite from perfect. Never noticed anything. Also she's not inherently evil, just victim of circumstance. Or more like Jandor being a retard.
nice perspective, looks like a diorama. I ought to try this one some time.
Force of Nature is way better if you do it right.
That sound effect still gives me nightmares. Literally the sound of death.
Go Conjurer and summon monsters and launch the force of nature constantly to feel like a god of death. Theres nothing like it.
I'm not going to use this thread as a blog so this is probably my last post, but
that sick ass art style
that sick ass music
secret areas in an ARPG, and handcrafted maps
that line of sight mechanic makes exploration look cool
autosaved to run into a river of lava checking for secrets, died
necromancer chick's dialog makes it sound like there's unique game over voicelines for multiple scenarios
This is already fucking awesome. The artstyle's just so good dude, I thought the 3d model in the character creation looked bad but this makes me want to go and dig up my old drawing kit and give drawing and vidya dev another shot.
I hope I don't go back on this, but I went warrior and already I'm planning on replaying this game two more times with the other two classes.
Dungeon Siege did the whole party-based hacking and slashing better though
Marvelslop done in kinda same style
Literally the sound of death.
Really? It sounds nice to me. I guess death is part of nature.
I hope I don't go back on this, but I went warrior and already I'm planning on replaying this game two more times with the other two classes.
Oh yea you can't go wrong. Honestly warrior is probably the best to start with to get used to the game since you only have like 5 abilities. And gets more complex with other classes. Luckily each class has a unique story and some of the areas are different unless its like a main questline thing. Also make sure to talk to all the NPCs to get side quests.
Wasn't that more of a Dark Alliance clone?
>necromancer chick's dialog makes it sound like there's unique game over voicelines for multiple scenarios
There are.
and already I'm planning on replaying this game two more times with the other two classes.
This is how it goes, yes. I think I've beaten it with each class at least 5 times over the years.
4 player coop in this was the coolest shit, even if you were all kinda locked by how far away you all could go from each other.
Yeah, sort of.
why are you so obsessed with game competition?
both games are good and they have different gameplay
kill yourself
kill yourself fence sitter
for me, it's Champions of Norrath
Not Return to Arms?
Better than Diablo 1, sure but 2? No way, and I love Nox. It's just doesn't have the same staying power.
All I see is "stomp me mommy" box lady.
Is she in the game or one of those "I'm nothing but box and manual key art" ladies?
The sequel wasn't as good when I played them back to back years ago. Something always felt off
Is she in the game
She is the main villain.
Isekai is such a juvenile genre
I never played this. Did they ever explain why there was no X?
No what?
I played conjurer but it was kinda meh. It was funny summoning fat goblin females to fight for me though with my love spell.
Its actually named after the chemical Nitrous Decaoxide aka No10
X
No idea what you're talking about. "Nox" is the name of the land the events are taking place in. So the continent and possibly the world too.
Yeah, it is. I felt way more immersed in Nox as a kid than I did in Diablo 2. It being my first isekai helped with that, but the shadowy lighting and the cool spells like hand of death and the cute little goblin guys that threw stones and the comfy swamps were also factors.
It had capture the flag multiplayer that I never tried but always thought looked cool, among other MP modes
this camera angle is even worse than path of exile's
nah, diablo stays winning
that can't be right, why is the X capitalized?
hand of death
*Fist of Vengeance
EYAAAAAAH *slam*
But it had a ton of cool spells besides that. And I always liked regenerating mana with the crystals, felt comfy.
Also the capes and armor looked cool. RIP Westwood, they'd be as big as Blizzard now if things went down differently with EA
All these games in 3D should just let you rotate the camera however you want and freeze it there while you play. Why the fuck are they limited to this one isometric perspective still in 2025? It wouldn't break anything, it would just make it more fun. It was frozen like that in the 90s because they were 2D
it's okay to be filtered.
in 2025
throws stone at you
giggles
runs away
This enraged me to no end as a kid and helped with my immersion greatly.
Thanks for the explanation. It's a little odd that they used a roman numeral but it's a fantasy game so I guess it makes sense. How does this chemical play into the events of the game?
friendly reminder that EA killed westwood
the comfy swamps
anon, they were full of giant leeches and other nightmares.
All these games in 3D should just let you rotate the camera however you want and freeze it there while you play.
What does that accomplish?
It lets you see the world and characters from different perspectives and detail levels, fucking duh. Since they became 3D there’s no reason it needs to be locked anymore
reminder
Ha. Ha-ha-ha!
dumb opinion
next opinion
Westwood killed Westwood. Of course they were very brave and made a lot of hits. But there was also crap like Soul Survivor
Yeah, I think what made them so memorably comfy for me was the little safe area shacks on stilts with comfy fireplaces here and there
Westwood killed Westwood.
No. Their higher ups sold out, leading to the suits killing all creativity. We have interviews now.
What's so dumb about it? Why is this genre forced to be one perspective no matter what, besides "that's how we always did it before"? Because that's a stupid reason
filtered
it's just fucking ugly. gameplay wise it would only bring me advantage vs the typical diablo camera angle where the yaw is slightly lower and more isometric
Boomoids blew they loads to this
No, we had Playboy for that. And real sex.
(You) didn't have that second one, lol.
I was just replaying that one recently and dropped it because I reached the area with the skeletons infighting and I found out that they are immune to magic if you play as the wizard.
I wish she would steal me
Is there any game kinda like diablo but with a squad of dudes? Except for Dungeon siege I already played that.
Subjecting your young child to this shit
Its like you WANT your kid to develop some kind of weird, obsessive fetish.
how old are you?
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
kids aren't able tu understand wtf is going on, you retarded american
kids aren't able to understand wtf is going on
lol, lmao. Sheltered retard.
OH NO NO NO A CHILD WAS PHOTOGRAPHED NEXT TO A COSPLAYER
HE WILL NOW GROW UP AS CHARLES MENSON
American moment
ure harming the child!!!
actually you're sheltered!!
Doubles down on retardation
Pushes it to serial killer territory
Constant spelling errors
Shut up, Rajneesh.
nox is more top-down that it is isometric. top-downs look terrible. actually isometric games are the best anyone can get. diablo is more isometric than nox is so it wins in my book. simple as.
nox is fun and plays really good
when will you guys stop complaining about games you have never played
it can't be fun if they fucked up the most important thing that makes these types of games fun
Throne of Darkness
Wizard is the chad choice, funniest thing is that STEVE FUCKING STIFFLER voices the protagonist
it can, you dumbass
stop hating and just play videogames
and don't compare PoE to nox ever again, if that was you
they're completely different games
STEVE FUCKING STIFFLER voices the protagonist
...........but how?
Marvel Heroes MMO was the best of the genre. At least in that game you had elaborate skill rotations and character play styles. It had like 60 playable characters and most felt pretty different to play. Only real niggas who played this shit in-depth know.
Warrior warrior warrior.
Lemme into that dumb wizard academy and beat their skulls in. Still remains one of the most memorable missions in Nox, even after all these years.
Check the credits it was Seann William Scott's first role into gaming voice, and it is the best one.
Steve Stiffler wins in every world he's in.
Will OpenNoX ever be finished? i want some scaleable UI and the game hates running on modern systems with a wrapper without freezing the entire screen
You can play the original right now unless your GayBlows 666 is that far gone. In which case you can install a less gay and blowing version inside a virtual machine and play it anyway.
HD port
Already exists.
github.com
could actually use a good remaster
See above.
Remember when the guys reverse-engineering GTA3, VC, etc. were sued to make way for inferior remasters that nobody wanted and everyone hated? Don't beg for more of that to happen.
on platforms other than EA's cancer
It's on GOG.
gog.com
the real "hd" port looks wonky cause the sprites werent made for that resolution
game would have to be remade to be updated for modern resolutions
When is an open-source project ever finished? If they implement all the features they want, people will just request more features and then it will be unfinished again. There have already been multiple releases. I don't know why the last 13 releases have all been "alpha" but the last stable release is here:
github.com
yet here you are comparing nox to diablo. nox and path of exile are equally bad if they cant get the camera angle right.
OpenNoX development is slow as shit and the guy never seems to ask help with it.
The entire game is playable but the UI scaling is non existent.
Also screen freezing was fixed recently per PCGW pcgamingwiki.com
wanting soulless redrawn sprites
You know they would just use AI like Blizzard did for the Warcraft remasters, right?
If the sprites are too tiny at full resolution, then upscale a lower resolution. If you can't do that because seeing the pixels triggers you, then play Fortnite instead.
where the fuck did I compare nox to diablo retard
EA would give it to Westwood/Petroglyph again and let LemonSky work with it again to humiliate blizzard once more.
Incredible how CnC remaster made everyone blame Blizzard and clear LemonSky's name once they explained what blizzard did to them
this cracka know what's up
once they explained what blizzard did to them
qrd?
All of War 3 Refunded's problems were caused by Blizzard, they and their fanboys tried to blame lemon sky, til their CEO came up with proofs at reddit that it was all blizzard's fault, in fact, those "classic" models that popped at the latest reforged 2.0 update, were the original models Lemon Sky did when they wanted Samwize's original war 3 art and concepts to make proper Classic HD from it til the trannies at irvine called it "eww it looks uglu like clash of clans, lets make it souless like Mists of Pandaria Illumination Art" also blizzard didnt even playtest the game and ordered them even to rush with the models for a quick buck release to promote Shitterlands.
And when everyone heard of that, and the fact that CnC remastered was in fact being made by them and Petroglyph with they admiting that EA and PEtroglyph were more respectful towards them than blizzard and activision, then shit hit the fan fast, because CnC remastered was a huge success and saved Lemon Sky's rep, aqnd it also exposed blizzard's assinine work tactics and lack of respect against people helping them, they even turned against the modding community out of spite, and rippers later discovered that Charsi's body in D2R was changed at the last minue the moment they put her textures on top of a Female body and it was a 1:1 replica of her original D2 Sprite, while charsi in D2R is literally using a rushed job male body, all thanks to vicarious and blizzard, with the former advocating for more female forms and blizzard and their tranny art designer saying NO.
to give an idea >pic was the original planned faces for the D2 girls based even on HOTS, til the girls were trannified.
Said fag responsible for this also worked on Diablo 4.
lol
lmao even
Not gaming on alien shooter vengeance
We almost got a qt kerri hoskins at her peak amazon, if wasnt for a trannoid subhuman who envies woman
Tranny medicines has to be suspended worldwide and these groomers sent to die in a boiling volcano crater
goth chicks = actual personality
Spoken like a guy without any life experience
ultima 8. that's beren the mage-cop who does that.
Reminds me of Fallout Tactics
Useless fact: Sole Survivor was originally intended to come bundled with Red Alert as a bonus game mode, but the higher ups at Westwood though it would sell as a stand-alone title instead.
Nice lazy ad hominem faggot. Surely you would know via your "life experience" that those types of insults tend to be lazy projections. I sure do know that from my life experience.
You're both right.
What class is most fun? Im thinking about playing it
Oh nevermind someones already asked this lmao
They're all fun.
Can confirm. All play very distinctly too.
I haven't found any sidequests yet(just reached Ix and talked to everyone). Does the warrior just not have any or are they in way later chapters?
meds
I love Nox, everything about it is great. Would love to live in that world, eating those red apples and drinking cider.
noxbump
Looks impressive, but... six millions, really?
Absolute berrypicker mentality
Imagine thinking a boring, generic woman with no interests is better than a woman with good looks and an actual personality.
Zoomers think that Stepford Wives is a love story
for me it's Hexplore
Would love to live in that world
suddenly orc raid
suddenly yet another necromancer resurgence
suddenly your faction gets fucked up by the opposing faction, or your innawoods village finds itself right in the middle of warrior-wizard war
failing all that, somehow, bandits
The land of Nox was pretty bad to live in before the events of the game.
NTA but I don't get what's so hard about just not using physics kills, which is what it boils down to. It's not like you have an entire skill tree of barrelmancy that you're being asked to ignore. I've successfully played all the Larian games without just crushing things. It's not some core part of the experience you're choosing to not use. Literally just don't make the win button.
God damn nox multiplayer was absolute top tier asshattery and pure fun.
Wand of Death duels aren't that great exactly but there definitely was potential.
its my first time seeing her, but i don't remember giving you a permission to post my wife
holy shit i haven't seen d3 in a long time. Good god that looks like utter shit.
It's wizard all the way. Traps are unmatched bullshit.
youtu.be
looks pretty good especially knowing that its gone through several instances of remastering
path of diablo2 or project diablo 2, which one should i play?
mage has the most balling portrait so him
warrior = wizard >>>> conjurer
wizard is literally what the game was designed for, for the longest time the design document was "fps deathmatch mentality but you're a wizard", playing around with all the spells is a lot of fun and having to constantly manage your mana and your tiny health bar really does make the game feel like a shooter.
warrior is a lot of fun too though, your equipment being so fucking expensive to repair gives the game a very interesting feeling where you're often better off swapping your gear around and using the new things you find rather then try to use the same items the whole game and it has the overall best set of levels for raw action with defending warrior town instead of stealth mission, the wizard tower gauntlet and an actual boss fight against hecuba instead of some weird gimmick shit where you snipe her and run away to get more mana still she dies.
conjurer is just kind of boring. instead of fun attack spells you just shoot people with a bow while your pets bodyblock you constantly and die constantly, because nobody hates you the later levels are all pretty generic. even in multiplayer it was almost entirely wizards and warriors with conjurer being the scrub pick that tried to gank you with crossbow/FON/iron golem and hoped you didn't know how to counter these things
You're supposed to use bombers as a Conjurer. Charming is for diluting enemy packs. Summoning is situational.
Warrior really could have used some more abilities. He's fun to play but the other two classes have more fun things for variety.
he has literally everything he needs
big nuke charge
aoe minion stun/counterspell to deal with crowds
harpoon to force people into melee
hard counters to the two kinds of spells that would otherwise hard counter him
the only other thing would be some kind of defensive move but he has literally double the health/blocking/more armor
>the other two classes have more fun things for variety.
he has literally everything he needs
>variety
needs
nox was never a diablolike despite having the same overhead view, it was designed to be more like quake with rpg stats but not dogshit like daikatana was
a game with gear that can perma-break and costs a fortune to fix is the exact opposite of d2 loot pinatas even if they did add in a more diablo-esque mode after release with quest mode
So? I have a giant axe.
What a scrub.
bombers
yeah these are kinda lame too because all the conjurer spells are either heal/support stuff or have an engine limit on how many can happen at once on top of having way less control over what they actually hit. being able to just invisibly drop a bunch of traps you made earlier and watch the fight open with everyone eating a half dozen fireballs is way more interesting
it was designed to be more like quake with rpg stats but not dogshit like daikatana was
It's called Ultima
sorry, it's like that but also it doesn't move like a choppy mess and is instead fluid like butter
I have it downloaded but can't get around to play it.
Dungeon Siege was insanely stiff, slow and boring though. I know, I played through 3 of them (due to a friend)
There are options.
fireballs
in traps
Noob trap, LOL.
Dungeon Siege's claim to fame was a seamless world and fuck huge party. Except anyone sane replaced half the party members with donkeys for maximum inventory capacity.
less popular game is better than popular game
Sure. Battle Realms is also better than warcraft 3.
anyone sane replaced half the party members with donkeys for maximum inventory capacity.
wish I knew this back in the day