Fuck they found out we stole art, again

fuck they found out we stole art, again

Bungie is filled with wageslaves that don't care about anything, just do what they are told to do and will cut corners in every way possible

again

jesus this is so fucking funny
it's the 4th fucking time

How awkward lol. Her stolen art is all over the game and promo stuff. They even made her style integral to the identity of the game.

This livestream kind of shows why teams with 800 people are doing worse than teams with 35 people. It's all abount talent, you cant hire 800 talentless morons to make a game, and you really only need a handful of talented people to do so.

their

it was a former employee

line is so fucking funny, like it was a fluke rogue actor and not a yearly occurance

it's funny that they say former employee because it means they just fired that employee and now pretend they were long gone

Also funny because they were literally following the artist on their accounts. They couldn't even bothered to use a dummy account for that.

I remember playing Half Life Alyx and when the credits came on, I thought "Oh fuck I gotta keep this thing on for an hour", since credits in games are miserably long. It was less than five minutes.

I remember playing Half Life Alyx

Jesus, put a content warning

kek

her

What race is this?

It's insane. They'll hire like 400 jeets but won't hire the one or two motherfuckers they want to lead the project. Trust me, they're cheap, they'll take the job, you found them on fucking twitter.

as funny as that is, i bet it turns out they had that stuff in an "inspiration" document and some lazy fucking jeet temp slapped it right into the game

Modern game dev is fucking cancerous.
They'd rather send $50 million to india and light it on fire than spend $500k paying local talent.

How the fuck did we get here? How am I supposed to not become a complete Anon Babble fag when stuff like this is happening?

Sure, but it still has to go through a review process.

they'll continuously tank their own PR to the point they're a laughing stock punching bag while dragging themselves into potential legal nightmares, instead of just asking an artist if they want to work on their game

they stole my copy of the red war and forsaken too.

I think even with the best of intentions the bigger the team the more pointless managers and go-between roles you have that contribute nothing to the project itself.

How the fuck did we get here

Dodge vs Ford Motor Co.

God damn I hate the idea that investors need to see a return on profits NOW rather than getting it over time with better business decisions.
Like holy fuck, it's called an investment for a reason.

You have it wrong, anon. Investors understand how quarterly profits work, but the issue is they expect constant YoY aka Year over Year profit increases regardless of how well the product did. Basically, unless you made MORE than the last year you're seen as stagnating and not growing whether there's a celling or not. It's because investors aren't really interested in whatever industry they're putting the money in, they just want profits.

And pretend to support LGBT when the artist is one.

SARRRR YOU HABA UNNASTAN WUDWEADOYING IS NOD WUDWEADOYING

300 people dev team

no campaign

only 4 maps

one game mode

still have to steal art to get an alpha out the door

Does explain why the game looks so soulless when they're just photoshopping assets ripped straight from pintrest

It honestly feels like the only competent worker at Bungie is that business suit who managed to scam Sony into believing Bungie is worth $3.6 billion dollars.

The issue is that investors have managed to force the federal government in to insuring them against risk. Investing is in theory supposed to carry risk. The person running the business you invested in "poorly" (this whole thing assumes that investors know anything about the industry lmao) is part of the risk. But above a certain wealth threshold you can have taxpayer funded institutions bail you out.

Whenever I feel like a lazy fuckup and start getting imposter syndrome about deserving my career and salary, I think about people working in triple A game development somehow making six figures and then feel better about lazing off at office.

The funniest part is that it isn't like the company is lacking talented artists or talent in general. It's all just bogged down by what is quite literally the worst kind of middle manager hell and a sea of nepo hires. If you look at the staff retainment in the studio from the release of Destiny to today, there's practically only a select few who have stuck around until now and Destiny as a whole has seen six different game directors throught the franchise. I think the biggest fallout from it all can easily be gleaned from Lightfall, because it was literally the expansion mostly directed and made by the new in-house hires who all got the boot in last years layoffs. It's a similar vicious cycle with everything they do. Bungie is living the good ol' original corporate culture it wanted to get rid of all on it's own. It's kind of impressive actually, the world was a canvas and they chose to shit on it instead of painting on it.

With enough life experience, everyone becomes a Anon Babblefag

That isn't Donald Trump bro lmao

How do you know?

Bro its just weird as hell to crashout about Trump because a dude made a joke response in character as Trump like this is a Reddit thread.

The funniest thing here is that Sony paid millions of dollars in salaries for years to designers and art directors who did nothing all that time and just stole art from the internet.
This makes me wonder: can Sony sue the studio and all the people responsible for the game art? I mean they pretended to work, passed off stolen art as their work and got paid for it, isn't that literally fraud?

It's a common thing to do desu, my work pal gonna retire soon, so he always says, any problem, just say it was my fault. Whenever I confront him about retarded decisions or incorrectly filled documents and spreadsheets, he would do the same, saying it was an employee before me and not him kek
I don't think they fired anyone, they just said it was someone that wasn't working there anymore.

But how do you know? Can you prove that Trump doesn't post on Anon Babble?

When is Microsoft going to close this shitfest down?

In general the video game industry, and creative industries in general, should not be using investors, period.
It reached a point where it just lead to diminishing returns for the company, and the downside of having to cater to investors just end up leading to companies creating billion dollars dumpster fires.

Excuse me
Sony

How is this game not cancelled yet

Barron does while blasting NHH

That's basically the mindset of the investors that currently steer AAA gaming. And the people running the business can't afford to not listen to them because they'll be fired if they scare away big investors.

The only solution is to get investment bankers out of the gaming industry. Make this industry toxic to them.

Yes, but the studio has no way of paying them since they spent all the money already. So even if Sony wins they only get the game (which they get anyway), and the studio goes bankrupt.

This is why publishers take a relatively large cut of profits from any game made, because they shoulder all the risk of bad devs.

you just know this guy had some work disagreements with the other guy and was fucking reveling in this. it's all over his face

PLAGIARISM WILL MAKE ME FLOP

Intentionally exposing your male pattern baldness in a safe workspace is a male white power microaggression. It takes your testosterone levels and exposed scalp and rubs it in everyone's face. Basically one more problematic fashion decision away from being a Nazi.

Art director or visual designer is a position that they probably only give to "old guard" members of Bungie. not the new hires brought on for the "churn and burn" cycle of game dev.

is it because they are bald?

Yes

fucking lol

his hat sits so much higher that his head, it's uncanny

"life experience" is sitting on your computer and posting about black cock daily

youtube.com/watch?v=rAUJSc6unAg

>Art director praised by entire team for choosing and producing a unique style.

Everyone knows it's Joe that copy pasted because he personally bragged about his art and constantly dangled it over everyone.
This is what I choose to believe.

The idea of a lawyer having to explain to a judge how these lines are supposed to be an almost abstract level of meme is hilarious to me.

there isnt even any proof that they fired the "artist", she's probably still there

Wearing hats used to be consider proper dress code. Of course people also used to dress in coordinated outfits to which the hat was an accessory, instead of a means of concealing baldness, as if nobody would notice.

heh, these clueless idiots have no idea the reason I'm wearing a baseball cap indoors, under these hot spotlights, is to conceal my hairline!

No we figured it out

Yeah, fedoras and stuff, not baseball caps. You'd also take off your hat when you went indoors and not wear it 24/7

Wearing hats used to be for uv protection. And it's not polite to wear one indoors.

You'd also take off your hat when you went indoors

what if you identify as a woman

Hanlon's Dilemma. Either the guy knew about it and it's outright malice or he's too incompetent for the job. I'm leaning into malice. His twitter has some posts talking about random artists he was inspired by but the most blatant one in question never gets mentioned.
While it's possible the guy simply made a folder with a bunch of random images he found online to serve as a moodboard and someone else made the mistake of thinking they were the final assets, he would've noticed it and did nothing.
Now the question is whether this was the only artist being ripped off.

Then you take your hat off so that it's easier to hide behind the lady's room door when it opens.

If it goes to court it won't even need to get that granular given the 1-to-1 copies. It's just a cherry on top for online spergs to laugh at.

The fact Sony actually paid THREE BILLION DOLLARS for this studio is genuinely baffling
I would unironically love to be a fly on the wall during those meetings where they decided this was a smart idea

again

What do you mean again? Have they done this before?
I don't play Bungie game or keep up with the news

>Now the question is whether this was the only artist being ripped off?

Yeah they are in crunch time after development hell for years. Now every object's decals need to be scrutinized. That is a huge roadblock. It would have made more sense to fire the art director and hire a new ad that could just replace the artwork faster.

True. What I'm sure will happen is Bungie/Sony pays out the ass to avoid the court, publicly say they reached a deal with the artist and they're totally BFFs now, have AI remix all the assets just so people don't find even more potentially stolen shit and just cross their fingers this doesn't turn into Concord 2.0.

It already is Concord^2

This. It was concord 2 the day that they ousted the last halo dev for workplace harassment and replaced them with valorant douche

hire valorant devs

game has stolen assets

cant make this shit up

Forgot pic related

The most convincing argument I've seen is that Joe has actually cited a bunch of people who also work on graphic realism shit as inspirations and given them credit.......but not the one person whose work is MOST identical to Marathon's, whose work is widespread copy+pasted whole cloth into the game, and who both he AND half the art team have probably known about and been following on Twitter for years. And the only reason not to mention her is because they know their shit is TOO similar and in some cases literally copied (including fucking Loss and her logo at multiple points lol).

Like it'd be one thing if there was a language barrier and they had more plausibility that the swedish team or whatever was aware of her but they weren't, but A: There isn't one, it's not like this is some niche Pixiv artist who only speaks and posts in Japanese or whatever, and B: NIGGER THEY'RE LITERALLY FOLLOWING HER ON TWITTER LMAO

what happened man...
youtube.com/watch?v=cQSRMxjUvXg

some intern stole some generic typography and iconography from a google search

oh no how will anyone sleep at night
the horror
lmao
zoomers are just despereate for drama aren't they

There is proof that it is the exact art with some parts of it lazily drawn over as textures.

plagiarism used to actually be a huge deal before the thirdietide

copying the typography and iconography would have been a nothingburger, but that's not what they did
they literally went and copy+pasted entire copyrighted pieces of artwork (including those that literally contain the artist's name and trademarked logo/signatures lol), had some pajeets apply a color grading filter in Photoshop, and then paste it directly into the game as textures and assets.

That's why everyone is laughing at Bungie's incompetence, this isn't a "OMG game of thrones invented politics!" situation or whatever you think it is, it's legit actual professional plagiarism and not the first time Bungie has been caught doing this, and where lawyers have gotten involved and they've been forced to pay out a settlement to avoid going to trial

Isn't Bungie 300 people or something
They have a fucking whole company to do art, and they just steal shit?

4 times? 4 different employees? Congratulations, you've now either qualified as negligent hiring or retention practices. Enjoy that liability.

They blamed their previous instances of plagiarism (because this is not even the first time) on their contractors and outsourcing firms. Now they blame a mystery "former employee".
Even if you give them all the benefit of the doubt, it just screams lack of any managerial oversight in the best case scenario and really makes me wonder what Bungie's team leads are actually being paid for because it can't be for working.

Worse, they literally had EIGHT HUNDRED AND FIFTY EMPLOYEES (note this doesn't even count contractors and thirdies they outsource shit to) as recently as July of last year. And that was actually less than they've had at their peak which was over a thousand.
Even with hundreds of layoffs from Destiny 2 shitting the bed they still have 500+ people, but nobody can right click reverse image search shit before putting it into the game (REMEMBER THIS COMPANY WAS BOUGHT FOR THREE BILLION DOLLARS)

actual clown world shit

How does this affect me as a player? Like why should I give a fuck beyond the corporation=bad NPC programming? I'm sure if I was an aspiring artist this would upset me and I would raise the pitchforks on tumblr or twitter or wherever those fags gather but this is the video game board and there are like three threads dedicated to this nothingburger nonsense.

Do you think players just go:

OH NO THE SIMPLISTIC SCI-FI 101 SYMBOLS ON SOME WALLS IN THE GAME ARE COPIED FROM SOMEWHERE??!?!?! HOW COULD I CONTINUE PLAYING LIKE THIS?!?!?!

And somehow during all of this their art director Joe Cross has been one of the layoff proof employees.

money laundering. These dogshit products are covers for money laundering

some intern

No company on this level let intern work on their main project without supervise. Even if they let the intern work on it with supervise, they wouldn't give this much work load for the intern.
This is from my experience as an intern for smaller digital art company.

Time for Joe to go

players usually don't want to pay third worlders' copy+pasted garbage anon, this isnt some shitty asset rip DAZ weg

but how does this affect you personally?

really makes me wonder what Bungie's team leads are actually being paid for because it can't be for working.

it's kinda in the nature of corpo companies run by managerial staff to eventually become manager / nepotism focused, and it becomes more important to manage office politics than actually be productive. it's even worse in game dev because game companies have more cliquey behavior. there are some variations to this thoughever.

blizzard has cliques and toxic behavior but the old guard will afaik beat your ass if you aren't at least trying to make good games.

at ubisoft it seems to be more like absolutely not a single senior cares if anything makes anything cool or profitable, all that matters is the good old boys' club in inside the company and being paid a good share of the funding that was supposed to be used to make games. the only people doing real work at ubisoft are the grunt level employees who get laid off anyway

i am guessing bungie is more of the latter than the first

If you want a serious answer for why even normalfag players care, because the Marathon Alpha was a rough mess and the only consistent praise the game has gotten has been on its art, with many of the Bungie Internet Defense Force claiming that they clearly have a distinct vision for the game using the art as evidence, and that the gameplay needs time to align with that vision.

Now it's revealed there is no vision. There's just third worlders' copy+pasting shit they got off Twitter while Bungie executives piss away the 3 billion Sony gave them and prepare to exit the company. The reason the game's gameplay feels so at odds with its visual style is because the visual style and many literal in game assets are literally plagiarized

Nah, players just don't give a single fuck. Because the end result is the same, regardless of whether it's copied or made from scratch. It's completely fucking irrelevant to your experience. It's only e-drama queens.

the fact that the original artists watermark is on the textures is proof it's some intern that copypasted it from a moodboard onto the texture sheet. It's an honest mistake because the artist had a tag that said "Aleph" and Aleph is also coincidentally a term that's related to Marathon, so it's understandable why it slipped into the game. Someone must have thought it was ok to be there.

as always, nothing ever happens and Joe Cross did nothing wrong.

it's not money laundering but i know what you mean. the point is to get investor money from schmucks like sony and use that to pay salaries to all your friends and family. no one cares about making good games because the incentive is salary and bonuses, and the best way you secure those is by getting investment money and engaging in nepotism

This isn't the gotcha you think it is. The art director was obviously giving that artist as reference to his team for design inspiration and some diversity hire retard thought it was acceptable to copy paste. I just can't believe an art director would ever be dumb enough to think he could get away with stealing art.

this shit is somehow more pathetic than concord
Firewalk carried itself with its delusional tranny swagger to the end
these guys know they're fucked and it's not even out yet lmao

third worlder is incapable of understanding why theft is bad

corpos are good actually

Anon, that would only be true if it was just the one piece....... it's not. It's dozens. Several are also copy+pasted but then color changed, or copy+pasted with only a few words changed, some wall textures have the artist's logo on them, there's entire posters copy pasted, there's fucking Loss as a meme copy pasted.

This isn't "oops a single 32x32 image made it in when it shouldn't have"

we know everyone knows, but when we restore our hair we wouldn't want anyone to have seen us bald

I might agree with you otherwise, but this is like the fourth time this happens under this same art director.

Ok Joe. Just don't steal next time if you ever get another chance at making a video game.

I wear a hat because it has a flag of my country on it. I have a full set of hair also

It's more suspicious because he never once mentioned this artist even though he's listed others as inspiration, yet he and the entire art team are following her on Twitter and copypasta'ing her work.

And of course this is the FIFTH Bungie plagiarism incident after they've already had to pay out settlements multiple times

What are you talking about? The point of using reference is for your game to look like the reference, if you aren't stealing there is not only no issue, it is desirable. As has been said a billion times, the designers republic graphic design style is not unique to one artist and an art director is not pouring over every reference to make sure your workers aren't third world monkeys who think stealing is an acceptable workflow.

he was probably too occupied with meth and hookers to check in on the diversity hires

fuck off then retard

The end result is literally not the same.

an art director is not pouring over every reference to make sure your workers aren't third world monkeys who think stealing is an acceptable workflow.

Sure, except here the art director IS following her on Twitter and there's literally posters saying "ANTIREAL" with the artist's trademark on Marathon maps......
3 billion dollar company btw

I can't believe that this is the studio that made Halo 1-3
And then Sony bought them for billions kekkypow
KWABungie

I think he's a hack who doesn't like to reveal his direct references because it makes him look lazy but I'm not going to hold it against him because that's how the entire industry operates, marathon is actually one of the few games that is atleast stealing from interesting sources.

I think it's also kind of embarrassing to be stealing from another playstation studios game series and it pisses me off that playstation killed wipeout so they could hire these hacks.

the key to success is having no morals
just keep stealing and lying until you get caught then lie some more
that's how every successful exec and politician operates

I dont recall doing/saying that

I didnt know, it was someone else on my team

we

*one of the 5000 indians they hired to replace white devs

Nobody is arguing he wasn't ripping the style from this artist and wipeout, the question is who was dumb enough to break copyright law.

Bungie defense force in full force today? Do you get paid, or do you do it for free because you're a bootlicker?

Nah, players just don't give a single fuck. Because the end result is the same, regardless of whether it's copied or made from scratch. Nobody will play this game.

Fixed

This is a concord 2 with stolen assets. It shouldn't effect anyone because no one wants to buy it.

SARRRS BUNGO DID NOTHING WRONG OK SARR BUY MARATHON

I dont think they have any money left to pay them

Bungie has more than 1 art director. There is either a culture of stealing at that company or there's just 1 guy who can't do his job properly and keeps fucking up.

Some of the stolen assets are unironically used as part of the game's menus and faction interface, aka what you stare at every single time you begin a match. There's no way they weren't staring this shit in the face and a good amount of it is so blatant it shows up on reverse image searching.... At this point it's either staggering incompetence (for Bungie this might be their actual defense) or actual malice

i think its actually people who dont see anything wrong with plagiarism due to ahem cultural reasons and take it personally when someone else might

The individual elements of the artists style are literally just primary shapes, letters, numbers and vector lines. What makes it recognisable is the arrangement, they were dumb enough to copy paste everything but using individual elements would just be under the realm of design inspiration.

Yeah and I'm saying on the menus and shit they literally copy+pasted exact ascii arrangements
also you're kind of underselling the significance of trademarks and copyright, Bungie's already gotten in trouble for this four times prior in the last couple years

The only reason any of you care about this is because you watched that Legenday Drops video.

Go ahead and admit it already.

no actually I saw the humiliation ritual stream live after seeing somebody link the shit to cross, I assumed it would be a nothingburger but now it's legit hilarious and is more entertaining than the actual marathon alpha was

Why are you pretending that I'm arguing they didn't break copyright law and that they didn't steal? I'm saying that an average art director would see no issue with mimicking the exact attitude of arranging shapes and text in that manner, so long as they weren't ripping it 1-1. You're acting as if it's incompetent not to second guess your employees, I'm arguing only a DEI hire would be dumb enough to think stealing wouldn't swing back around and fuck you in the future.

I think it's cheap that they would request that exact style and not just hire the artist but whatever, maybe it doesn't make sense to have a full time graphic designer on staff.

vote with your wallet
it works...there's like a handful of games that did crowd funding and ended up successful that I can think of atm but it's far from industry standard
be the change you want

The actual marathon alpha

Which 99% of people invested in this nothingburger didn't even play

I AM TRANS!

Sista... we know

Literally who

I didn't play concord either

millennial cannot comprehend the virtues of professionalism

I just find what Bungie has been doing for the last few years is one trainwreck after another. I can't stop watching. It's too funny

This. And why should they they hire probably out of college or near that fresh people so they can pay them maybe 50k$ or less. Why give your all and your talent when you're underpaid and under appreciated?

Anon Babble not going absolutely apeshit abot loss inclusion is a sad sign of times

Shows that huge teams lack talent and drive to make something cool. The entire art team at bungie have the wageslave mentality where they do the bare minimum and don't care about what they're making. So they think "who cares that we're stealing art just get things done and we can go home".
You unironically need a team of driven artists that crunch themselves to near death in order to archieve their goal. That is where great art is born.

it's a shame because vectorheart is such a sexy artstyle but marathon not only stole a bunch of shit rather than making new art for it, but it just manages to look fuck ugly regardless

Yeah when hats weren't the nigger themed sub human wanna be baseball caps

They are pushing this game so hard and no one cares about it. The most you see is "concord 2" as a response. How bad is this going to flop at release?

Honestly I love how this dude is just having the time of his life the entire stream while the other guy really wants to leave.

peaked and ended with Wipeout

Why don't other games use it?

probably a relatively limited amount of artists who do it well who you would need to, y'know, pay

yeah why don't you go wear a fedora see how that turns out for you

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Yeah I don't think the Fedora is the part that people make fun of. It's who is wearing it. You overweight gigantic massive American blobmaister. Go to Tokyo see what hats they wear

Because it's a niche aesthetic associated with futuristic racing.

I'm starting to believe this but if they aren't making a profit where do they get the money from?
Not denying what you said but I just want to know.

someone mods nintendo game

NINTENDO SUE THIS MAN HE IS STEALING!!!!!!!!!!!!

a corporation steals from an artist

LOL WHO CARES LET THEM DO WHAT THEY WANT!

What stolen assets did Valorant have, since that would have also been news. no?

Or is this just a retarded CS person crying about Valorant?

When the flop situation is more entertaining than the actual flop entertainment product. Bravo Bungie!

There isn't going to be a release.

One of the things about the videogame space that I've noticed, and to be fair, I've seen it in my own industry too- is that HR and the mangement-management types bloat beyond belief and almost never see significant downturn.

You'll have company wide restructures and layoffs and they'll still be hiring for the next HR position.

Bungee is less than 10% Devs last time I saw.

Synthetik kinda did it and it was a top down shooter

its the fedora of our era, i wish we had 1900s style of clothing

What are these from, a recent Marathon dev stream?

The more things change, the more they stay the same

The investors are convinced that firing the actually talented people and replacing each of them with 25 pajeets is better because it's cheaper. It's been happening all across the entire vidya industry for decades at this point. You can be a John Carmack level autist and it won't matter because Rajesh and his cousins will (claim to be able to) do your job for half the pay, and the prospect of the same product with half of the money invested is too enticing to the jewish investors so they immediately start slashing the experienced staff. Then it bites them in th ass and somehow nobody learns anything from it and it just happens over and over and over and over again.

I just think it's really strange to make a game that's clearly designed in the style of that guy's art and not hire him.

Like, just the idea of it: "Instead of hiring this guy as our artistic lead, we're gonna hire people to imitate his style."

Imagine if Escher was alive now and you were doing a game in his style, the obvious thing to do would be to try reach out and hire him, right? Instead they just printed out his stuff and told their team to copy it.

Vato-kun

That's extremely telling to me.

I can't believe they made this guy do the stream when he clearly wasn't up to it at all. I don't think I've ever seen someone so uncomfortable during a live event.

why are boomers so predominant in gaming industry?

Arent most people like that? Do people really give that much of a shit about their jobs? I'm not in a creative field like video games. I work for big pharma in lab work and I half ass everything and whatnot and if I ever get fired or whatever I don't even care as its so easy to just get another job quickly working for another random pharma company. Makes no odds to me if any company I work for puts out a failing product or whatever.

There comes a point where the unreasonable becomes the only reasonable stance. Understand that modern game development is a result of wider adoption of the industry in the past decades, and you begin to understand. These businesses do not see farther than the next quarter in terms of survival. They only think about short-term growth, that’s it. When the objective of your company becomes “make as much money as quickly as possible” rather than “make a great game and make enough profit to continue making great games” then the product itself is only relevant so long as it gets more money RIGHT NOW. That means hiring subhumans thousands of miles away and creating slop to trick the consumer into thinking they are getting more than they are.

That’s all this has become

He looks like a guy was about to explode.

Millennials are insecure about their hair dilemma plus the fact most of them have peter pan syndrome and can't let go of their 90s kid childhood.

He didn't invent the style and it doesn't make sense to employ a full time graphic designer at a game studio. At most you would contract them some work and they should have done that.

The graphic designer is not well rounded enough to be a lead artist on a game, it's kind of ridiculous to say they should be put in charge of shit like architectural, vehicle, character, technical design because they made some cool posters.

>. Me watching for six years as the art department copy paste the art that I stole.

no. its because women treat me better when I wear a hat to hide my baldness

Yes. It was scheduled to be a play ama. But now they couldn't legally stream their game.

youtube.com/watch?v=MEqirM5Ozh4

Lol nobody that was worth a cent works there anymore.

I am so fucking glad I didn’t follow my childhood dream to make videogames. I would probably be roping right now

That's why they didn't cite her but it's also why they didn't cite wipeout and chose F1, it's not because they wanted to cover the fact they were breaking copyright law, they wanted you to believe they were talented enough to make that journey from F1 to wipeout the way TDR did in the 90s.

I started wearing a baseball cap in my office and I stopped getting headaches.
Turns out it was the glare from office lights, once I was blocking that out I felt much better.

So yeah, that's why you see caps in office environments.

I do find it fucking hilarious that when I saw the trailer I thought the art style looked like such generic destiny style shit. Then it turns out they couldn't even do that without stealing it... if the art was actually good then fair enough but like it's not.

That's financialization

The artist they stole from doesn't have the energy to start a lawsuit because she's so used to companies stealing her shit and getting away with it that she has just given up at this point.

Then make him an art consultant or something. If you're going to make a game in his style and you're very clearly using his work as inspiration far and above any other inspirations, then just hire him.

He's apparently a broke artist, give him a $60k salary to consult and he'd be overjoyed. The legal fees they'll pay if this goes to court will be well above that.

they did in fact cite wipeout and the designers republic, retard

1k employees with 10k pajeets taking 10 years to make a 5/10 game that gets maybe 1 year before EOL to move onto next megaflop

how did video games become this way

This is a slam dunk case, so legal firms are probably knocking down this person's door right now.

They can easily cite the Capcom textures mishap as an easy precedent for why this cannot be handwaved, and that was far less egregious than this is. This is literally straight up theft.

Based. Honestly fuck those entitled pricks that call themselves artists.

Yes. MOST people that wear hats everywhere do so because they are balding underneath. You just can’t really work around balding unless you have a head specifically shaped for it, which is rare. It’s fair, if childish. If I were balding I would probably do the same.

I have a friend that I’ve known for a good 10 years, and I have never once seen him without his hat on. He certainly doesn’t look to be balding since he’s got hair all around the front and back, but I wonder if he’s looking like fuckin Trevor underneath.

The graphic designer is not well rounded enough to be a lead artist on a game, it's kind of ridiculous to say they should be put in charge of shit like architectural, vehicle, character, technical design

well the guy they hired to do that clearly isnt competent yet he has the job

given the publicity wouldn't be surprised if someone offered to take her case for free. It's an easy win and bungie already admitted as much

nice bait

this isn't the gotcha you think

it was obviously my retarded hedcanon

Thank you for this impressive showing of how unaware people are of their own shortcomings.

All AAA game companies must die. They all put out useless trash. The devs for all of these companies should go make their own smaller companies.

Bungie has always had the best skyboxes in the industry, they always leave me in awe. I can't bother to search but have we seen what the 4 launch maps for Marathon will look like?

Anon you thick fuck, he knows they were looking at stolen assets. The point he is trying to make is that if they were LEGALLY using the troon’s art as a reference it would still look almost identical, just not exactly the same. You can’t copyright a style, so if it were performed properly it would look practically identical. They thought they were looking at non-stolen work because it would still look like that if they had been legit

Not only that but the managers will oftentimes insist on having extremely frequent meetings that eat up an hour every day, something like a scrum is okay, but other than that devs shouldn't have any other meetings

ok keep stealing art then

Why does snoy keep pushing live service bombs? They literally all fail. Nobody likes this type of shit.

good morning sour grapes sir

delusional, marathon mogs wipeout and all of its inspirations

she could take them to the cleaners for sure
more likely they'll come to some deal and she'll get a load of cash and credited as a consultant or something

bungie deserves to go out of business for betraying its fan base

You would be mercilessly mocked and possibly beaten up for being such a massive fruitcake. Real heartwarming shit

the real sin of marathon is not making it look more like the 2023 trailer with RTX on

no one cares about some random decals

slam dunk case

Oh no no no. Did you consult chat gpt for that?
They can drag her along courts, based on where they are located, choosing potentially the worst court for her. That alone could take months. Go into some sort of discovery phase, where she would have to stop her work to go trough thousands of textures from the game in attempts to identify which ones were stolen and which ones were not.
This could once again take months, they can trickle info bit by bit.
And if I were the lawyer for Marathon, I would offer her a settlement as this was never a commercial product, it was only in the alpha phase anyway, none of it were final textures anyway, and she clearly jumped the gun in thinking any of her art would be left in the game.
Imagine losing out on months of work as an artist, to get maybe a few thousands of dollars in a settlement, and all the accompanied stress of a lawsuit.
Sounds great.

Why can't any other company recreate the more homely feel of Digital Extreme's Devstreams?
youtube.com/live/6TexQjt_lUY?si=ChglX9N_LX4nBPMZ

Imagine being this guy and having to go into the office the next day. Every one of your co-workers is staring at you. They know their jobs are in jeopardy. They know their careers in the industry might be tanked. How those people are now thinking about having to go home to THEIR families, sit down at dinner with their kids, and have a talk about their future and the uncertainty of their financial situation.

All because you, a lazy shitbag who couldn't be bothered to open up Krita or SAI or Photoshop to make a texture, had to steal art from some random nobody on twitter. And now he has to tell everyone he's sorry.

I think I'd kill myself in his position.

They're throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks. Every out of touch executive is having wet dreams about creating their own Fortnite.

Men and women just don’t do well in co-ed working environments where they have to work closely for hours at a time. I worked in logistics and we had a little office in a large warehouse. After a year of working there I was already starting to form a checklist of chicks at work to fuck, and started fucking chicks I didn’t even find that attractive when I first started because working with them makes you attracted to them. By the time I stopped working there years later I’d fucked 4 of them, and I was just some rando dude not a manager.

Men and women should be segregated at work. When all’s said and done and society normalizes again that’s what’s going to be the norm.

the funny thing is that everyone was like "at least the artstyle is good" when people tried to praise marathon.
now they don't even have that because it's all stolen.

Indian hands typed this post, good morning saar!

You fuck them after work or in the working hours?

Why did they even go on stream? Are they stupid?

This dude scams grandmas for Google Play cards lol

Warframe devs

lots of nothing

Nothing tops the soul and genuine love for their game like Yoshi-P and Live Letters
youtube.com/live/cVQWDewBrfQ?si=hb_ba4B2vlR_mFkJ

I notice you didn't mention the precedence which means I can safely discard everything you said. Please stop posting forever, thank you.

Fuck off Joe, why don’t you go and steal a better argument you balding faggot

precedence

Yes? Do you think that lawyers start the trial by mailing the judge a precedence?
Also want to talk about it more? Its not applicable. Since the capcom texture issue was for a fully released product, instead of an alpha test for a game nearly a year away from release. A finished game can not be compared to a wip with temporary textures.
Enjoy your slam dunk case.

I’ve seen this in action, it works until you get that one guy that likes being confrontational that calls you a lying bastard and lays it all out. They’re actually quite rare, most will know you’re lying but not confront you because they don’t want to be impolite.

I have to pretend he is a third worlder... a fellow first worlder would never defend a corporation like that!!

Is there proof that this loss was drawn by that artist?

I haven’t seen his video yet because they all tend to be the same, standing on a soapbox and loudly complaining. Not a bad gig, though. I do that for free to my girlfriend instead of getting paid to do it on Youtube.

I'm starting to believe this but if they aren't making a profit where do they get the money from?

investors who throw crazy amounts of money at these companies. the potential amount of money gained from investors far outpaces any kind of incentive from making a profit. therefore, a lot of AAA game companies have followed this incentive and stopped trying to make a profit, focusing on getting investment money instead.

the fact that investors have so much money is a unique quirk of our current economic situation. asset values have inflated massively, which has made these investors disproportionately wealthy. due to massive asset value inflation, and the relatively low purchasing power of the average consumer, it's no longer really effective to invest in companies and products that offer a steady profit flow with reasonable margins. instead, the most prolific investment strategy boils down to getting on the ground floor on a specific high potential stonk and hope it gains tons of value. and the most attractive stonks tend to be tech stuff like streaming companies, vidya and so on, because they have theoretically infinite potential and aren't bound by gay shit like "profit margins" or "having to make and ship a physical product"

this is kinda the business world is playing now. everything is irrational because the (primarily) US fed has fucked up the economy hard with asset inflation. you can put this one on reagan for erasing the gold standard and preventing natural recessions from happening. instead now we get an increasingly dysfunctional and irrational economy that veers farther and farther from natural supply & demand dynamics.

99% of Marathon alpha players didn’t play it either after five minutes lol

Why the fuck would Bungie do it?

Arent most people like that?

Of course. But at one point, Bungie was full of passionate nerds who liked making cool shit they themselves thought would be fun to play. Same tale as lots of developers. That was a long time ago

I don't know, Bungie's retardation is beyond me

actually wait it was nixon who erased the gold standard mb. i dont remember what reagan did but i think it was something related

Most men do not wear hats in Tokyo. Some women wear sun hats but women do that here as well albeit to a lesser degree. The fuck kind of point were you trying to make lmao

sony/bungie settlement money to payout the troons titjob

Any firm worth their salt would take this case on contingency. The money she would get from the case would be generational.

women's Chinos

no socks

wrinkled jacket over a black tee

The fedora's just the cherry on top of that walking mess. Only thing I can say is he was smart enough to stick to off-white with brown.

After work almost every time, one time it was during work but I was on-call during the weekend. Was kind of hot railing her from behind at the printer. I wanted to also sit her on the desk of another chick I fucked, but while I was thinking of doing it I nutted, so I just finished up working and we hung out the rest of the day. Also one time after work I sucked on her tits in my car at the parking lot, but it was dark at that time.

I think thats a shirt not a jacket

Also although we actually fucked after work, in each situation we were sexting or touching each other at work. Like she’d come in the break room and I’d grope her or she’d be walking by and place her hand on my cock and balls. That kind of thing. Was a great gig, paid shit but it was worth it

"how does this affect me?"

"yeah i dont value my money and will pay $80 for a game where the people making it cared so little that they would copy paste someones artwork rather than making their own"

"but how does that affect ME???"

these are the same people who think AI slop in gaming is no big deal

just looked at gameplay for the first time

Wow, the entire visual language of the game is based around that one twitter rando's art.

Truth NUKE. Stock markets and Jews should be banned

more like she doesnt have the fucking money, because you can bet your ass that they would just drag it out until she cant afford to keep it going.

Reagan was the trickle-down economics guy

You know, I wonder how AI is going to make copyrighting things even more hard.

Again, what money? Its a alpha wip product, none of the art is final, that alone would not get her much. She would also suffer business losses. It shows that you are a neet arguing on the internet, but when a person is involved in a lawsuit, they have to spend their time on the lawsuit, the more involved with their work the lawsuit is, the less work they can do.
She would literally get pennies, and potentially lose money because of the work/time lost on the lawsuit.
The only one getting any money out of this would be the lawyers.
And IN the case she actually wins, it would potentially take literally decades.

Again, they used "TEMPORARY" dev art and textures, so what kind of damages would she sue them for :^)?
You seem to be dodging that question pretty hard, on how its not an actual finished product.

When Bungie settles out of court you are going to pretend she would have lost if they had followed through with their master plan to string her along lol

Exactly my point, at best its going to be a settlement out of court and she gets a few k. The precedence you tried to correlate it with was capcom using hundreds of photos in multiple games, finished products on the market for long periods of times, with millions worth of sales.
And not a bunch of textures in an closed alpha of a game.

Dodge vs Ford Motor Co

I didn't expect to see actually intelligent posts on Anon Babble

I’m not the same person you were arguing with, I didn’t day anything about precedence

Do you think that because a company has the resources to use a massive team of lawyers to make someone miserable, that they actually want to spend all that time, money and effort to do so, just because they are cartoonish evil? They only do that when the cost of their own lawyers exceeds the demands of the injured party.
Let her sue for millions and see how quickly she will go to settlement where nothing will leak and she has to sign an NDA. Just like how the whole capcom thing ended.

The lawsuit cost is going to be negligible. It'll probably get settled, but it doesn't matter. This scandal has turned Marathon from a game which is a joke but some people could defend as having potential, to being the next hot trend to shit on Marathon. It's almost impossible for a game to come back from this level of stigma, especially not with a ego-filled studio like modern Bungie, with Sony breathing down their necks.
How many further losses in sales can you expect with this? With the next scandal that happens? It's impossible to prove damages in advance. But this is another hole in the sinking ship.

I dunno. I started wearing a hat as a kid and if I am going outside casually I wear a hat like 75% of the time. I am, thankfully, not balding yet but I still just prefer how a hat feels. I also happen to live in South Florida and a hat is genuinely useful for keeping the sun out of your eyes and off of your upper face.

i am still adamant those designs are too simple to even steal. just mimic them. a supposed professional should be able to do that, right? no need to plagiarize anything really.

The lawsuit cost is going to be negligible.

Negligible for who? Bungee or a digital artist? A simple lawsuit can cost 20k+ easily. And that is a simple quick and easy case. Slapping 20k on the table for a digital artist is not negligible.
I don't know what world some of you are living in, where everyone seems to have infinite time, and infinite money they are sitting on where they can spend it all on litigations.

Fuck off, shill.

You'd never find the source unless the ai shows the watermark.

she

I meant for Bungie, if the artist actually goes through with a lawsuit and doesn't just ask for immediate arbitration. It's also in their best interests to do so to try to claw back some good will if there's any left.

based

Why are you so angry towards artists?

You're responding to bait.

she

Damn

It's funny how the only good parts of marathon's art are what they've stolen.
Every character, and all of the texture segments that weren't ripped were designed by a group of people that should never have a job in the industry again.
The characters weren't ripped from that dude, and they were MASSIVELY criticized by everyone before any of this was publicly known.
All of the background textures ingame are high context neon vomit, and there's no metaphorical contrast between the attempted artstyle and athe environment because every part of the ingame nature looks cartoony, devaluing everything that is supposed to stand out about it.

Yeah grown men wearing baseball caps will always be weird to me.

*High contrast neon vomit

Hi Uncle Sam

Millennials

Uh, who wants to tell this fucking idiot that boomers have doing it forever.
Because it can't be me. I'm shy.