Everything defaulted to low on my 3070

everything defaulted to low on my 3070

I guess it's over...

bethesda don't get enough shit for how bad their games are optimized. they're also on the forefront of forcing RT. 3 games they released this year, and they all run like dog-water.

Its been over for PC for a long time. A base $399 PS5 can run this game. It would take at least a 1k+ computer to run this anywhere close to a PS5 oh and it still wouldnt be a seamless experience or have fully functional haptic controller.

can someone explain to me why the devs cut 50% of the framerate if no more for the game to look the same if not worse than eternal?

Ascend out of grafixfaggotry. Upgrade your rig but also learn to deal with lower fidelity if the artstyle can carry it.

no clue if this game can carry it I've only heard bad things so far.

Uhm actually digital foundry said it's beautifully optimized to run on low end PCs like yours

DF has been a marketing channel for years now

Not surprised.

Who knows why they shill so hard for AMD though.

A PS5 has a shared ram pool. It can allocate up to 15GB to vram.

they got RDR2 to run on a system that has 8gb of ram and has two laptop cpus strapped to it. There's no excuse.

By running sub 30fps and sub 1080p yes.

are you stupid? Just calculate the lights for movable objects ONLY like every single game ever. What is so dynamic about dark ages environments?

dark ages runs at 1/4 res of RDR2 at best and the light is softer than ps2 games because GI has not near enough res

yeah but do you understand how crazy that is? That gen was on par with PCs from 2008. Yet doom dark ages cannot run on optimal hardware

runs bad

I should be impressed that the one of the largest and most well funded development studios in the business made a game that runs badly?

Imagine unironically playing a first person game on a controller

7800XT has a shit upscaler so you'll have to play on native + TAA. Id take a 4070 12gb over that desu.

this is what happens when you outsource coding to the third world, which bethesda does exclusively now
shartfield is the biggest indicator of this

my 2080 cant even do it on performance. at least on 1440p, barely getting 60fps

Companies want to move on to RTX because it's easier

have 4070ti super I got in a sale for cheap

100+ fps on that chart

looks fine to me

I mean you are effectively playing at 1080p.

+frame generation

That is a different chart.

mmmm, i love having my image look like a blurry fucking mess where my inputs are being measured at 30fps but my fps is 120 causing an horrendous delay

soon games will only run on $100k+ quantum computers and they will look even worse than they do now.

all of the programming for starfield was done by BGS, outsourcing studios were responsible for 3D assets

I have a 5080 and get 100-120 FPS on Ultra Nightmare settings with no Frame Generation at 1440p.

I have a 3070 and I used the DF optimized settings. I had no issues, there were a few areas where it dipped below 60, never below 55 and only in a few select areas.

of course its with dlss quality at 1440p so not even native but works.

Using DLSS quality yes.

Does the ray tracing actually make the game look better than Eternal at all? I've yet to see a video or screen shot where that is the case

dlss slop enjoyer

FSR is better than DLSS for a while now retard, nvidia is clinging on to dake frames to catch up

if you're a upscale slop enjoyer, ive heard AMD are trying to get FSR4 working on the 7000s.

No

native looks blurrier than dlss

grim

The screenshot looks like shit because it's a compressed jpg. It's super sharp in game.

FSR is better than DLSS for a while now retard

this has never been true in the history of upscalers
FSR4 is decent enough though

FSR4 is in like 10 games and only works on 9070/xt numnuts.
FSR2/3 is unusable the image quality is so bad.

It's been that way for a few years now, thank TAA.

The 3070 is 5 years old. It's almost as old as the 1080 when it was new.

It would be more correct to say that non-ML temporal rendering methods are less effective at creating a good image with a given number of pixels than ML-based temporal rendering methods such as DLSS are.

I enjoy first person games the most on controllers. Skyrim, Kingdom Come, any FPS.

Laptops exists and are huge part of PCs faggot

youtu.be/DZfhbMc9w0Q?t=912

The 1080 was 4 years old in 2020. The 3070 is 5 years old in 2025. It's over.

FSR is better than DLSS for a while now retard,

kek, holy shit, the absolute fucking state of delusion.

it's a great deal better, i will say. that it cuts my frames by half, though, is another matter entirely...

Still not upgrading btw.
I'm sticking with my 12GB 3080Ti (bought used btw) until its absolute heat death.

Does the ray tracing actually make the game look better than Eternal at all?

Yes. The game has better lighting and effects than Eternal, fire and volumetrics are better. You can see this when you're in a burning building. Another big part of what Dark Ages does much better is physics and destructability, you can jump around a room and demolish half the stuff and the lights casts by this all look perfect which you can't really do in baked lighting like Eternal. However Dark Ages has mediocre textures so the visuals of enemies and objects always feel a bit underwhelming, like the game looks too soft and not gritty/sharp enough.

with optiscaler, it works in every game.

I've given up on playing anything new on my 3060 12gb. Might buy a PS5 desu

runs at just shy of 60fps with RT on a mid range 5 year old gpu (3060)

this is bad

turns out anons are all running gtx 1650's

yeah i am priced out of gaming at this point, cant afford the gaming as 3rd worlder at this point only to play UE5 boring slops.
hopefully my 3070 will last me for emulation and some AA and indies for years to come.

i wouldn't, massive waste of money on a paperweight thats nearing the end of its life. Why dont you just put together a PC build and build it? There are many great options for all budgets nowdays, it just takes some research.

sell the 3070 and get a 7800xt. You wont be paying much difference if any.

PS5 GPU is barely more powerful than 3060. VRAM is sometimes a problem even when the GPU is otherwise more powerful than PS5's but that's not 3060's issue with its 12GB. Or sometimes it's the lack of hardware RT or mesh shader support - but that's not a problem for 3060 either. You're unlikely to get a much better experience with PS5. Unless you're talking about PS5 Pro. Otherwise I'm thinking it's a setting issue.

there isnt anything to play really, only gta6 left and thats years away

I also enjoy being gimped

It's time to play AA, Indie, and boomer games. It's unironically over for you. Your slop era is over OP.

can't turn off ray tracing

lol I only have a 4060, I think I'll wait until my next big upgrade by which time the game will be free

How am I gimped? I don't play competitive FPS on controller, but every other first person game feels much better on a controller. Never felt gimped swinging an axe in Kingdom Come on my controller. Doom Eternal is the only game I've played where mouse and keyboard would be a significantly better choice of control. Everything else feels more comfortable to me.

I also find worse aiming more comfortable

4060

im genuinely curious why people pick this gpu when AMD exists? Like, 5080/5090, i get it. But below that, why wouldn't you just go for AMD? You're losing free performance for muh brand loyalty.

I'm really excited to spend a 1000 bucks on a gpu in a couple of years

AMD sucks at all levels

cannot into RT

FSR worse than DLSS

bad drivers

nothing outside of vidya works

sucks at emulation

Buying radeon only makes sense if you use linux or BSD and don't play games either.

because my gpu from 2019 died a few months ago and the 4060 was only $300
hard to justify spending more when I only play maybe one really graphically demanding new release per generation, and after seeing what I've seen of this game I'm happy I didn't spend any more

You should probably just buy a PS5

i get 120 fps on 3060ti with dlss performance 1440p.

still no reason to upgrade besides ue5slop that requires 8gb+ vram that i dont care about.

But below that, why wouldn't you just go for AMD? You're losing free performance for muh brand loyalty.

Historically it was because AMD cards are worse at raytracing, consumed more power for each frame you got with them, and their upscalers were worse. Now you might say raytracing doesn't matter that much yet and power shouldn't be a concern for people with paychecks and you are partially right, but upscalers do matter. Even with 7900XTX/RTX4090 being 4k capable cards, you'll still get a better ratio of visuals-to-framerate by using upscaled 4k than real 4k, and this was a thorn in AMD's side because the image quality of FSR(1.0-3.1) is just not good enough, while DLSS achieved good enough status years ago.
However the 9070/9070XT exists now and has FSR4, which is good enough that DLSS is no longer a point in Nvidia's favor.

bad drivers

people who still say this need the shut the fuck up. Nvidia's drivers were literally bricking people's PCs not long ago. Also played bloodborne from start to finish with 7800xt on PC. If this were 2012, I'd agree with you but its clear you just parrot shit you heard from nvidia brand loyalists.

This isn't Bethesda.

Now is a terrible time to buy a GPU as well because nothing is future proof with new consoles on the horizon. Buying a GPU next year and it'll last maybe a year or two before ps6 comes out and bam just like that its fucked

It is published by Bethesda. The statement applies to their catalog regardless of developer.

ID has always been on the forefront of jumping onto new tech far too early. Does nobody remember RAGE and its megatextures?

Why are you assigning the label of brand loyalist to anyone who has a different brand of card from you?

future proof is a meme. i was stuck with my 970 waiting for the perfect chance, it never comes. Every generation is awful.

I literally never remember RAGE unless someone brings it up.

bethesda don't get enough shit for how bad their games are optimized.

This game is amazingly optimized. There is 0 stutter and the framerate is extremely stable, and you can get 1080p60fps with an RTX3060 which is a 1080p card from over four years ago. The main problem is that it does not scale down to weaker graphics cards well due to the hardware RT requirements, so if you're on a GTX1070 or something you won't gain a lot of performance by dropping from high to low presets.

It's also not made by Bethesda.

Reasonable

NO, YOU DONT UNDERSTAND! I NEED TO PAY $500 MORE FOR MEME SLOP AND AI SLOP

Still doesn't work on 7800XT

i bought my first AMD card during covid and it didnt work right out of the box. not doing that again.

oh wow, everyone sell your AMD cards. This lil retard nigga right here had a bad experience once

That's a deal these days.

uh yeah? you have a shit experience you tend to avoid doing it again.

suggesting amd over nvidia to somebody who emulates consoles

maybe you're just a retard who cant figure out how to install a GPU? like wtf does this even mean?
SHADPS4 worked fine for me on AMD.

agreed, you should never buy a gpu again and just stick with consoles

so everyone with Nvidia GPUs who got their system bricked should sell and avoid Nvidia?

This game is amazingly optimized

fuck off, todd

RT is a wonderful thing, isn't it

and you can get 1080p60fps with an RTX3060 which is a 1080p card from over four years ago

Optimization is about graphics to performance, not about the release dates of the game and the cards.

yeah if they have nothing but issues. its not complicated. are you guys old enough to post here? this is how things work

It's also not made by Bethesda.

Published. Everything they've published lately has been horrendously optimized.

fewer players than weeks old niche releases

stick to consoles, lil fn

But below that, why wouldn't you just go for AMD?

Because the used market exists
If I want to cheap out, you can get deals on great condition NVIDIA cards for the same price you'd pay on a new but worse AMD one

It's honestly crazy considering I ran Eternal on a fucking 970, on medium/high settings and at a stable 60. Optimization is truly being LosTech with the incompetence of modern devs.

make your game unplayable on the average gamer's pc

nobody boughted it

WOW

Steam numbers really dont mean shit when its $1 on game pass

frfr no cap

Everything they've published lately has been horrendously optimized.

And yet Doom isn't horrendously optimized.
Jedi Survivor is an example of a horrendously optimized game, stutters nonstop, buggy as shit, absurdly high CPU demand for an action game, shambolic framerate graph.
Again, Doom has 0 stutter and the framerate is extremely stable, even a Ryzen 2600 CPU is good enough for it, and midrange GPUs from two generations ago are good enough for 1080p60fps as long as they have at least some of the hardware required for raytracing. We're not in 2020 anymore, the GTX1050Ti is not the average GPU anymore. We're 7 years and 4 GPU generations into the raytracing gimmick, and you're an absolute slowpoke if you're still dragging your feet about it.

used cards

haha, no. i'm not spending $400 for a used 4060 thats probably been used to render lots of hentai and other shit

Steamoids still don't get this. Game pass has been on PC for how long now? 6 years? 7? There is no reason to buy a denuvo game on Steam if it's $1 on game pass.

Would still be a better deal than buying a price equivalent AMD thoughbeit

4070ti super 16b, I play at 4k and the extra vram helps a lot
Very noticeable improvement vs my previous 3080

No, it's published by Microsoft. id is a completely different beast, just keep your whore mouth shut.

And its a pure single player shooter most people will be done with in 10 hours. Unless you plan on replaying a lot you might as well rent it from digital blockbuster.

i can get a 7800xt at MSRP for that, wtf.

Gamepass numbers shouldnt be counted towards a games success precisely for the 1$ you mention.

1 million people pay 1 dollar for gamepass

1 of the many games they play for that month is Doom the dark ages

Bethesda gets paid 1 million fractions of a dollar

Just like how Epic can pay you a trillion dollars to have your game on Epic, it cant be counted as a success if noone is buying

Tell em queen

Of course it's going to run worse, years have passed since then. Laws of physics make games harder to optimize as times goes on like anon explained here You have to judge performance relative to the current year.

Microsoft just wants people in the "ecosystem" so that is a success for them. Thats why everyone goes by player numbers now and not sales.

Most people are dumdums and pay the full amount. I don't know what that is now $10-15 or so.

i think the 4070ti is a good card, but why is it almost $1000?

4070 ti super is essentially 70% the performance of an RTX4090 for 50% the price of an RTX4090, and is the cheapest RTX card that has 16GB VRAM. If you have a 4k monitor and want a good experience without selling a kidney, it's one of the few Nvidia cards you might call good value.

the reality is that designing the game with RT lighting allowed them to make a much bigger game than they would otherwise been able in the same dev cycle, also the game runs much, much better than the other recent idtech release so its not a bad precedent moving forward with RT only games. the reality is simply that we are getting ready to move to full dynamic lighting games. consoles now support games with full or partial dynamic light rendering which are cheaper and faster to make and this has always been the real endgame for why RT started getting support from the industry.

9070xt replaced that budget range. it stomps the 4070ti at a cheaper price too.

You think Bethesda making their games on the same fucking engine for 30 years is the same thing that's happening to id. How fucking clueless are you?

And yet Doom isn't horrendously optimized.

It is.

9070XT beating the 5080

Nvidiots have worse drivers too

They paid $700 more than me for this experience

kek

4070 Ti Super, not Ti. But yes the 9070XT is good, would be nice if I could find it at MSRP though.

5060ti 16gb is better if your stuck around $400. Half the power consumption and DLSS/RTX HDR.

Is it publushed by bethesda or microsoft?

damage control

you were caught lying rajesh, it's over

It is.

For your GTX1050Ti I'm sure it is. It's funny how PC fags love shitting on xbots and tendies for clinging to old weak hardware and demanding everyone stoops down to their graphical level, but they also go apeshit if every new PC release doesn't run well on decade old hardware.

it's only like 10% faster. id trade that just for the nvidia features.

The RTX 5000s was a clear message that they dont care about gaymers anymore.

For your

For all.

based Userbench marks user. Yes, Ryzen is trash, yes the 7900xtx is only 2% faster than a 5070

Waaahhh it's Id's fault that my PC is weaker than current gen consoles.

Kek just buy a console at that point.

Runs fine on my $250 series s fueled by 4 years of gamepass via Turkish Xbox live cards I got for $60

For all.

Nope. Native 1440p max settings is 100-125fps on my RTX4080. The game runs well if you're actually a PC gamer, if you're a turd worlder still clinging to a GTX970 expecting it to keep up in new games then it probably runs poorly for you.

how many frames and at what resolution are you running TDA on your console? just curious

who published the game sukdeep?

The average pc has a 3060 or 4060 and the game runs just fine on those cards. Unless your "average" is a delhi street market in which case yes, it is unplayable on the gtx 960.

Nope.

Yep.

4060 user here, you're a lying shitskin.

the game is optimized sir you need a better computer

works on my machine

youtube.com/watch?v=5RayN8OP-QA
Runs 1080p60fps natively on an RTX4060, without any upscaling or framegen shit.

Remember when PC users used to joke how their hardware would become obsolete 6 months after its release date? Now they want their decade old shitboxes to run everything new smoothly and they scream if it doesn't.

Sounds like a you issue.

because back then, a new graphics card didn't cost the same as a used vehicle

sir please do the needful and buy dark ages

no

wow, your computer is really good at running a single frame!
now let's see some motion

4060 doesn't run well

two posts proving it does

Everyone gushed over the GTX1080Ti which if it came out today would be 900 dollars. And that was a card that was expected to just about hit 4k60fps on release. It wasn't expected to hit that mark in the coming years and it released without any extra gimmicks like ML-based upscalers or frame generation.
Now when people pay 900 dollars for a GPU, they get extra gimmicks like ML-based upscalers and frame generation, and they expect it to give them 4k90-120fps for the next few years.

>two posts proving it does

where? I see no video evidence

This game looks the same as eternal why does it take twice the GPU power. The whole point is for it to look good AND run at a high frame rate.

Nope, still not upgrading my 2070

Are you just a bot that's automatically responding to posts with generic replies to defend the game, or something? Obviously a newer game is going to be more demanding, my point (that either due to your programming [if bot] or stupidity [if human] you missed completely) is that Eternal was well optimized because it ran at relatively high settings and a good framerate on hardware that was several generations out of date when it came out (in my case, at the time I still had a 970).

Meanwhile this game apparently runs shitty, on low, on a card that's only a couple generations out of date (OP's 3070).

There's a reason he's not posting any videos of the game actually running. Might be a bot as well.

is Anon Babble just all chatgpt now?

This game looks the same as eternal why does it take twice the GPU power.

It doesn't. I have the two games installed on my drive right now. Doom Eternal has much better textures and better color palette. Dark Ages has better lighting, effects, much bigger environments with more enemies, and actually has proper physics.

game runs worse than eternal

well that's to be expecte-

and looks worse

oh

looks worse than doom 2016

hahaha

You do realise option B is the 3070 is a shit card? Of course not because holy nvidia is sacrosanct.

No reason to put effort into something as simple as astroturfing when you can get a machine to do it for you.

everything defaulted to low on my low end card

whoa...

fair enough

again, maybe go beg your local unicef relief center for a stimulus check so you can afford a gpu that's better than my 6 year old midrange gpu, until then this game is optimized well and its just a turdie having a meltie about their 10 year old pc not running a modern game

what's wrong with your environment textures?

so if you're on a GTX1070 or something you won't gain a lot of performance by dropping from high to low presets.

it won't even let you launch the game if you're on GTX hardware

Damn dude that looks like shit, you actually consider this "fine?"

beg your local unicef relief center for a stimulus check

my 6 year old midrange gpu

you first, brownfag

it's interesting how the rise in the frequency of "THIS GAME IS POORLY OPTIMIZED IT'S NOT MY SYSTEM'S FAULT WHATSOEVER" is directly proportional to the increase of Indian and Chinese presence on the internet

The consoles are like a 2060 super or 5700xt though. Game plays with lower than pc low settings on console.
Transformer model is good enough you might as well just ignore any old AMD card and the 9700 is more expensive than the nvidia equivalent (still no dlss)

haha you're poor

I'm also poor

...okay?

Except the PS5 isn’t a part of the PC Master Race. Don’t you want to be in the PCMR, Rajesh? It’s not about the video games, it’s about being a part of a community. May your frames be high and your temperatures low.

they patched the gameplay due to all the negative reviews

Fucking finally. Hopefully Anon Babble can play the new update that removes all the parry and shield bashing. Did they also remove the power glove or whatever it’s called?

turdie goes from claiming the game is badly optimized to denying he let it slip he has a worse gpu than a 6 year old midrange gpu

This. We pure aryans would never hold BethesGOD to such high standards, such as the standard they set with the previous game in the series.

And it looks worse than Eternal. This piece of shit deserves to flop hard. I remember when 2016 came out and it could run on a potato

the greatest sin of the western world was granting internet access to india

blah blah blah projection

post more footage with your third-world card

Anybody else get anxiety from hearing your computers fans so you play every game on lowest settings so that you never hear your PC working hard?

looks better than eternal, you're just coping you cant afford even a 6 year old used gpu let alone a 80 dollar game

7800xt

Costs the same as a 5070
AMD cards are only cheaper in the third world

ok

I saw a series of screenshots comparing the graphical settings, and low looked the same as ultra. Can anyone else confirm. It's running perfectly on low on my 4060 laptop, and I'm grateful.

I was being sarcastic, thought it was obvious from the "laws of physics" part.

damn, your card can't even run eternal properly? sorry to hear that. it's actually much better looking than the dark ages.

the game can only render 1 frame

o-okay it can render movement

stupid fucking nigger you are getting forced out of this thread, while making you realize you can't afford a 6 year old used gpu so you have to cope about games being "unoptimized"

>the game can only render 1 frame

Who are you quoting?

Unironically to save dev money/time. That was always how Nvidia advertised RTX to developers, we are just seeing it coming to fruition, with hardware being able to poorly run full RT games at playable framerates (with the help of upscaling, but still)

posts picture of distant skybox and clutter

yeah you are retarded
no wonder you are trying to avoid posting level art, turdie

you buy your GPUs used? how fucking poor are you?

ew! get that ugly shit out of here, poorfag

dont buy used GPUs. I've flogged some pretty disgusting ones for a pretty penny.
one of them had 2 HDMI ports broken but the retard pajeet I sold it too was happy i knocked off $25 MSRP

Who are you quoting?

is this the point you start samefagging and pretend you didn't let it slip?
the question is, why you can't afford to buy a 6 year old used gpu and instead have to pretend the game is "unoptimized"

the average pc is better than a console

still shit performance

grim

save dev time

takes almost a decade for a new game these days

it's not really working out is it

poorfag

yet, you aren't posting your own screenshots of your system running the game. why is that?

I'm like that yeah. The noise just makes me nervous even when I know it's not a problem because I associate it with a dying old PC.

It can't even hit stable 60fps on a 4090 at 4K. Midrange GPUs have to run it on low at 1080p. Digital Foundry has been pro dev and hostile to consumers for almost 5 years now.

play Doom 2016

enjoy it

play Doom Eternal

enjoy it

play Doom The Dark Ages

enjoy it

Simple as.

the question is why do you buy used gpus, poorfag? I just got a brand new 4060 for $300, you can't even afford that?

RT reflections are disabled on low
Water setting makes a good difference in some scenes but is heavy
And then there's texture filtering, setting this to max is heavy then x16 af in other games
Everything else there's not much of a difference. Path tracing update soon, supposedly some of the settings above ultra will bring more rt features.

Who
are
you
quoting?
Who said the game only runs at one frame?
Scroll up. Re-read the post you think you're quoting.

Where does that post say the game only runs at one frame?

can someone explain to me why the devs cut 50% of the framerate if no more for the game to look the same if not worse than eternal?

1. it doesn't look worse than Eternal
2. it massively cuts down dev time. baking all the lights in games with huge environments and dynamic lighting is a massive pain in the ass
3. it actually allows more physics and destructible environments because the raytracing can accurately cast the lights in any situation

my card doesn't even appear in these graphs anymore
i used to be a king with a brand new 3060TI
A KING!

yeah you are retarded

no wonder you are trying to avoid posting level art, turdie

Doom Eternal looks better to me. 5k2k @ 200 FPS vs 5k2k DLSS "quality" (1440p) ultrawide @ 150 FPS with half of those being fake.

Whatever lighting improvements exist in TDA pale in comparison to running a game twice the resolution with twice the real framerate.

actually believing this bullshit

fuck off. games manage before RT

all the poorfags ITT

So is it really just poorfags with shitty PCs that hate Dark Ages? Why do feel entitled to the devs making their game run well on your shitty toasters? Upgrade or have a lesser experience. Simple as. If the increase in vidya prices wasn't already telling enough, it should be obvious by now that only Richchads deserve to play vidya. All poorfags should either get a job or kill themselves. It really is that simple.

why would I re-install eternal to make screenshots for a shill?

turdie is still malding here after pretending the game won't run at 120 fps if you move the camera

lmao, the more you keep going the more i know how mad you are you cant afford a 6 year old gpu

I just got a brand new 4060 for $300

3080 costs the same, 2080ti and 3070 are even cheaper. Just admit you didn't know that new low end cards are a scam and got ripped off, there's no way to defend the 4060/5060.
Could even spend a couple hundred more for maybe a 3090 or the 6950xt
Buying a used gpu isn't like buying a car with a lot of miles, in a lot of ways a used card is actually safer than a new one

definite shitty PC.

actually believing this bullshit

Well the technical director of Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal agrees with that bullshit and says it himself, so you know.

3080 costs the same

didn't ask
why are you poor?

it actually allows more physics and destructible environments because the raytracing can accurately cast the lights in any situation

Yeah, destructible environments are impossible without ray tracing. Crysis and Bad Company 2 didn't exist.

Ray tracing is forced in Doom TDA because Nvidia is sponsoring the game. If Doom TDA had a non-RT option, it would make ray tracing look bad, since a non-RT option would look similar and run 3x as fast.

It runs at sub 1080p on PS5, shit like Series S runs at like 600p lmao

telling anyone to buy those cards in 2025 is criminal. the 9070gre is out, get that if you're strapped for cash

Aww, realized you misread the post huh?

Based. Poorfags are the scum of the earth and should all be eradicated.

i really dont care what those fucks say. it's lies and they are just using RT as a cheap way to skip development time to shit out these products as fast as they can. We all know it.

keep going, turdie

looks fine on my machine, you must be poor

>actually it looks like shit

W-WELL IT LOOKS BETTER THAN ETERNAL

I love it. Keep posting.

Why are you poor?

Alright, I'll ask again:
Who were you quoting?
Or are you ready to admit you read it wrong?

I'm indian and Bethesda doesn't pay me enough to actually play these games on my own

keep.

going.

Nice talking points, Digital Foundry. However people have eyes and no one cares about muh poor devs. It looks bad and the performance impact isn't enough to justify it.

Just gonna keep parroting that huh? Alright, do it one more time and I'll leave you alone.

Friendly reminder that 2016 only ran well as it did because Carmack was involved.

I'm playing Doom: The Dark Ages right now and I'm having fun.

tfw 3060

how bad things are for me?

It looks bad

you already tried this cope once, senjay.

performance impact isn't enough to justify it.

runs 120 fps on my 6 year old machine, wdym

keep

Meanwhile, in 2020.....

Didn't even know that existed, real question is if you're able to get one in the states for cheaper than the Nvidia equivalent without bots or driving to a microcenter.
Your yearly wage is less than the total price of the computer I use to play 20 year old games for like 5 hours max a month. Lower your tone when speaking to me shitskin.
Game is actually pretty poorfag friendly just like Indy. Old amd cards can just play it in linux, even old NVIDIA cards received a work around recently (that's way worse than old amd on linux but still)
This game just like indy is one of the best running recent AAA releases, what are you talking about? RTGI will literally always be worth it

that's nothing, my decade-old machine gets 240 fps!

I have 3080 and a 4070. Strangely enough, I use my 3080 build more often. The 4070 is in my study, but I rarely ever go in there. Most games run okay at 1080p on a 59hz monitor with a 3080p. Usally have to play at medium/high settings with newer games. Never maximum. And for mid range and older games I can crank up the options. I think being a older gentlemen might also assist in my enjoyment. It doesn't take much to make me happy so I'm not always chasing-the-dragon like I did in my younger years.

okay and what does a 5080 do in 1080p?

C'mon Todd, you know nobody played Great Circle.

they are unironic paid shills

why are astroturfers so racist against their own people?

how do you even break hdmi ports on a gpu? I've sold all my old gpus but they were all in good working condition.

No people played it, the problem is everybody found out it ran like dogshit

I played it, and it was dogshit. Still going to keep bringing it up as an example of how performant rtgi can be though.
The game was 1080p60 on an rx 5600xt, you know the 6gb card that doesn't even actually support hardware rt.

The people who say this game runs badly, how the hell are you even able to play anything using ue5? Those are all way more heavy even with potato settings.

I meet almost all the recommended requirements but I only have 8gb VRAM. Any chance I'll get a consistent minimum framerate of 60fps on low, or should I just wait until next upgrade?

I'm curious, just how bad was it? I figured it flopped due to lack of interest in the IP in [current year].

Poorfags don't play vidya.

noooooo....you must get a better PC to be able to play it, despite the minimal changes in graphics... how dare you not buy the latest nvidia card

Nice talking points, Digital Foundry. However people have eyes and no one cares about muh poor devs. It looks bad and the performance impact isn't enough to justify it.

So RT saves dev time, at the cost of making the game run at 25% FPS.

So what did id do what all that dev time? Better music? Nope. Better level design? Nope. Master levels? Nope. Multiplayer? Nope. Horde mode? Nope.

Oh, perhaps they lowered the price of the game to pass on their savings?

Nope. $70 for 10 hours of gameplay.

That is all poorfags do, anon
It's almost annoying.

I'm not sure I've even played anything that uses Unreal 5. Isn't it mostly for AAA Ubisoft-type crap?

despite the minimal changes in graphics

guys... he's shitposting again. Someone get his medication

if you look at the average snapshot of games discussed on this board, its clear Anon Babble is full of third worlders playing anime games that can't fully engage the hobby

HE SAID IT!
HE SAID THE MEDS LINE!
SAY IT AGAIN, PAJEET!

Holy this

doom the dark ages

...but my 7900xtx plays the dark age of doom just fine.

nvidia's frame generation has done unimaginable damage to the industry

play AAA garbage

surprised with AAA garbage optimization

lmfoa

you must get a better PC to be able to play it, despite the minimal changes in graphics

the industry is moving on from static lighting, and you're getting left behind. that's all this is really about. its prohibitively expensive to keep developing games for both the turdies on raster graphics and 1st worlders with dynamic rendering. consider the brief period we've had as a grace period, during which AAA devs threw you a bone and gave you time to upgrade. now you cant afford to complain.

Suck ass

this game looks like straight dogshit, it should run good

dogshit

Zoomer word

What's it like being a poorfag?

your chudcore game has better performance than the woke ac shadows
just accept the defeat
no one is buying this doom game because it's shit in several ways

You get to cry on the internet about everything sucking while acting superior to everyone, it's great

sorry it looks like straight horseshit

horseshit

Better. Maybe lurk a little longer to learn what words will and won't make you look like a mong

it's stunning how many of these posts are very obviously one guy talking to himself

dogshit post, made by a britoid

Yes it's quite stunning

and brave

Why are you replying to yourself?

7900xtx and a 9070 beat a 5090

look up

They don't - read the chart more closely.

My PC is bottled necked by my GPU (currently runs at 94% capacity) and my CPU (currently runs at 100% capacity). My rig is struggling to run Clair Obscur at 40 frames on modest settings. To upgrade the CPU, I would probably need to get a new motherboard. Would it be better to start withg a new CPU+motherboard, or just get the GPU first? I couldn't afford getting all three at once

Why are you replying to yourself twice?

zoomer post, made by a newfag

using -oomer speak

you have no business calling anyone a newfag

I was playing on just a Steam Deck for a while and it wasn't so bad. I put games on a list to check on in a few years.

no, they are ACCESS "journalists". they don't get bribed outright. the incentive structure just happens to be, the nicer you are the more access you get, and access is what your audience selects you for. every time they play softball they get some exclusive interview or preview that brings new subscribers to their channel, so they have leaned into that more and more over the last few years. at this point they are indistinguishable from the rest of the "gaming press" because they all do the same thing.

Robocop mostly stayed over 100 fps on my 3070, admittedly with DLSS. In a non-shooter I could settle for 60 fps which should allow for most of UE5's effects.
guess what, I wrote nuDoom 3 off the moment they talked about mandatory ray-tracing.

7800 xt chads we are looking good

Oh what arbitrary board laws have you zoomers come up with now?

upscale 480p

The 3070 was a scam, even in 2020. The only cards worth buying were the 12GB 3080s. Even the 3090 was a scam.

it's not arbitrary, you're not an oldfag. you're the equivalent of a soijak poster.

4090 is still the second best card on new games

AMD needs to step their shit up, how embarrassing.

This, but

play 2016

it's shit

play eternal

it's great

play tda

it's good

i have an ryzen 3600 + GTX2070s + 16gb ddr4 ram
so midrange setup from about 5 years ago
game runs at 1080p native 60fps for me which is good enough

now i am sure there are some valid points about the game's visuals-to-performance ratio or how underwhelming the gameplay is or how the cost of raytracing is still too much

but if you are complaining about performance being so poor that you cannot enjoy the game, then either you're lying about your setup and have worse specs than you claim, or you are using something like a GT1030 or a GTX960 - which means you are simply not the target audience for new PC releases. because new PC releases are not aimed for people with 6-7 year old hardware that isn't even fully compatible with modern graphical APIs

correction: from about 7 years ago! 2070s are ryzen 3600 are from 2019 both

What was the last game with graphics that genuinely impressed you?

just how bad was it?

First part of the game was kind of cool. It was just boring as hell after that. Maybe if you like the movies

Robocop

Also uses forced rt though

Probably the witcher 3 or doom 2016.

Fable 2.

Okami on PS2. I've seen games since that I've acknowledge as making progress toward pushing hardware, but I don't find that impressive. The hardware is doing all the work, not the artists.

how does the game run on PS5? I'm not getting it on PC if I'm forced to launch with raytracing that shit is a gay performance hog

SH2 remake I think is still the best looking game on pc
Before that probably doom 2016
Cyberpunk had some good "glamour shots"

Alan Wake 2

You do realize how ironic it is bringing up soijaks right, considering how new they are. No one is convinced you're anything other than a reddit-fugee who only found this board after it went mainstream

Alyx

Jedi Survivor. Awfully optimized and personally a bland game but it has really good lighting and textures clearly made with 4K in mind.

Exactly.
This is why i will use my 3070 until games literally refuse to run.

considering how new they are

That's the point you fucking retard, can't you read? I'm telling you that you and your terminology are contemporary with soijak posting.

equivalent to minimum settings on pc, drops into the 40s according to random redditors/Anon Babble posts

And I'm telling you that you're a faggot redditor

ps5 gets 60fps but not locked, it can dip to 50-55 during the most intense parts. doesn't stutter thouh

Are you genuinely not understanding basic english are or you just pretending?

Go lecture someone else zoomer nobody gives a shit

You give enough of a shit to reply to this post.

Nope

it actually allows more physics and destructible environments because the raytracing can accurately cast the lights in any situation

RAY TRACING =/= REAL TIME LIGHTING

real time lighting has been a thing since fucking Quake 2 and Valve figured out how to do it with very little to no performance cost in 2004. RTX is so fucking expensive and bad because its not just real time lighting, its gay ass fuckery that tries to simulate individual light rays and particles by spewing unrealistic reflections everywhere which eat up your GPU.

To this day the most realistic real time lighting in any game is Division 1 on PC, and it doesn't use any RTX bullshit, it just uses real time lighting solutions that actually lit up the scene properly instead of making it look like a shitty bathroom tileset.

they finally fixed Doom guy's face from the previous 2 games and made him look like the OG

thank god

Now he just looks like Chris Redfield's bro

I do have to give them that made him really expressive, the scene where he blows up the Cthulhus is great because of his facial animation

NOOOO TRADITIONAL LIGHT RENDERING TECHNIQUES CAN'T LOOK BETTER THAN MODERN SLOP NOOOOOO

it runs at 60 fps on high on my 3070 pc. It's still a blurry mess like all new games and uses every bit of vram available despite having ps4 textures

8gb vram

it's been over for a while now

Battlefield 1

Read Dead 2

Did I miss him talking in this game? I heard something about him saying something in the game but I think I missed it

KCD2

he says "run" before blasting azhrak with his mech cannons

PS5 run at lower render resolution, low end cards like OP should do the same

What CPU are you upgrading from? What are you considering?
If you're on a budget take a look at the 12th gen intel CPUs, 13th and 14th are barely an upgrade over them and those new ultra core whatevers are a flop for vidya. It's an end of life socket, obviously, but I don't know how much that matters to you.
Really I'd suggest you save up until you can comfortably upgrade both. Your options only grow with every year that passes and once these tariffs blow over prices might be a little better.

This game works surprisingly well on a HDD

i remember in 2020 where people were saying it was enough and should last many years. Currently 12gb vram is on that line

i remember in 2020 where people were saying it was enough and should last many years

i remember the opposite, in 2020 when people were panicking and fearmongering that having an 8GB card was like still trying to multiply numbers on paper at a time when calculators exist

i do remember that too, but there were gay ass articles everywhere trying to reassure people it was enough.

what even happens when you play it on an HDD? how long are the loading times?

bro just tweak the settings and sliders

HAVE CONVICTION IN YOUR GAME DESIGN YOU RETARDS

I have a 6600XT and get bearable gameplay on 1440p medium via XeSS balanced and manually enabling FSR 2.1 in AMD settings. Idk why but in-game FSR framegen is choppy as fuck and FSR looks generally worse than XeSS