New teaser dropped: twitter.com
Deltarune
I'm fully convinced that Dess is the knight and that the Twin Peaks posters are onto something. There is a darkness hanging over the whole town because of Dess' disappearance but nobody really wants to address it and wants to pretend everything is all happy, when it isn't at all. It's cursed.
It's not Omori, Dess didn't die. Maybe assumed dead, but Dess fell into the dark world and is trapped. We know she was a bit older than our main cast and a protective figure. Over years in the dark world she would grow in strength to become a knight. The events of the game are Dess desperately trying to get home or to call out for help. By this point she has been transformed into something darker than her old self. Kris being the knight is a red herring. The dark worlds are all easy to understand how they connect to him, but they fit Dess just as well. The dark worlds are basically portals into Dess' mind and memories and they're already filled with references to her. It's a quirky Earthbound inspired indie about depression (darkness) and friends of the person trapped in darkness trying to break them out of it, even if they don't actively know it.
Dess creates the fountains, drawing them closer to her, hoping to be saved. As they close them, they are bringing acceptance to Dess in one way while also making her more desperate. The roaring is her ultimate attempt at escaping. If she can't get out to go back to her family and friends then she'll have the world she is trapped in envelope the world she left so she can be with them again.
The other candidates are just stupid.
Kris? Agame character wants control back from the player cuz he are sad! No. He rips the soul out because HE feels responsible and wants to save Dess, himself. Not have you do it for him.
Alvin? Oh he is sad his dad died and wants to make his story books come to life! Wow!
Gaster? If even mentioned in game he's a puppet master trying to save Dess.
Roaring Knight = Silent Night
screenshot this post
no music is interesting. I wonder if we will get a new battle theme for later chapters.
susie's ultimateheal is now heal
hmmmm
dess is the knight because [fanfiction]
that one xitter post about each chapter getting a rude buster remix was cool, can't find it though
really hoping there's more battle themes, it's getting grating to hear the same one
Twin Peaks posters are onto something
it is one schizo, and it's rude to talk about someone who's listening.
bros im starting to think kris really is autistic
even chara doesnt talk like this, only narrator chara on genocide does
we LITERALLY see Kris create a fountain at the end of chapter 2
im happy for toby. kris is the knightfags are his main audience, he can write whatever he wants and still surprise them
dark knight to paladin arc is REAL
it was implied in chapter 1/2 but this is solid
They're all transfem
Kris: loser growing out hair hair for first time, seems to have been lively and happy when younger but is now largely empty seeming, lives in fantasy world where everyone is okay with pronouns so doesn't get misgendered, it/its is imminent
Ralsei: will take her a while to realise she's trans because she feels trapped being a "femboy" and doesn't realise she can really be a woman
Susie: the big scary monster everyone hates for no real reason despite the fact she is a sweetheart, doesnt know how to love despite clearly wanting to because of how she has been treated, many such cases, only reason she isn't misgendered is cause fantasy world
Noelle: rich young transitioner with liberal family that is largely "accepting" of her (her mother is "hard on her" and she isn't as close with her so who knows, her dad and sister seem completely accepting, I'm assuming her sister was also trans but time will tell)
Berdly: condescending nerd who will realise she's trans eventually and have to get a personality, kind of just an exaggerated version of me when I was a teenager and I haaaaatttteeee it
Well guys what do we think?
i think whoever made this is a retard projecting so hard they could be used for powerpoint presentations
I miss the music teasers
The faggots that project themselves onto every single character and person and try to tell everyone "no no you don't understand you're totally trans because you don't conform to stereotypes" are one of the biggest reasons why their ilk are often mocked and told to kill themselves.
how many of you experience gender euphoria when you play these games?
it's getting grating to hear the same one
Rude Buster's a fucking banger, how the fuck does anyone get tired of it?
I feel immense euphoria manipulating and gaslighting Noelle (a woman) when i play as Kris (a man) because this is what I've always wanted to do as a man.
200 & 230 HP
Is that more than they had in chapter 2 or am I just remembering wrong?
So it's almost TIME
How we feeling?
it's good but you only hear the first couple bars each time
I feel dreadful
What do you mean "almost"?
It's still a staggering 15 days and 6 hours til the chapters come around. I can't wait that long...
You are trying too hard.
We'll get a new battle theme once Susie class changes from dark Knight to Paladin
i barely tried and it clearly hit a soft spot for some mysterious reason
AND do not forget that we are waiting another 15 days and 6 hours only because Toby is a weeaboo cocksucker who made a deal with Nintendo to make Chapters 3 and 4 be a release title for the Switch 2
If it hadn't been for that (or the Japanese translations that took 1+ year), we would right now be months into making schizo theories based on what we saw of the normal and weird routes of Chapters 3 and 4
Can't abide retardation on my Anon Babble.
Is everyone still pretending to be retard? "Dark World" lets you play make-believe, so Kris, You, Susie and everyone play make-believe. Thats it, 3 heroes. Count them. How many games about escapism does it take?
Already went and negotiated days off for June 4-7.
game about escapism
no option to escape from battles
Media-illiterate retard.
This is weird route gameplay right? Music's purposely hidden, "useless analysis" text, and everyone's HP is way too high compared to pacifist.
if toby's intent for this story turns out to be just a really longwinded way of saying "escapism is le bad!" i am never buying another indie game ever again
the message will be "engaging with media is good but don't get obsessive about it or forget about reality"
I feel personally insulted now.
Yep me too
Guei are spirits of individuals who were not properly buried or whose families neglected the proper memorial offerings; they lack the means to ascend to the spirit world
recall Alvin talking in the graveyard about gerson's hammer
Dark world's can't bring back the dead. Right....?
Deltarune actually is anti-escapism
You mean anti-anti-escapism
Berdly weird route rematch
They turn their heads like a bird
the message of deltarune is actually: have sex with gote boys
He's right, the game's pulling a Specs Ops: The Line on you. It's telling you to engage with the escapism, so it lecture you later.
Undertale wasn't that deep, either.
snowgrave specifically will be "picking apart games for every last scrap of lore and content, used or unused, will not get you what you want"
gaster's backstory will serve as a direct parallel to a snowgrave player the same way flowey's did to a genocide player
Guei are spirits of individuals who were not properly buried
Guei turns its head like a bird
Roaring Knight = Silent Night
now give me an anagram for strange knight
They both look similar
They both use diamond bullets
Hmm...
based mexichad
How is that different from genocide? Flowey didn't have web communities, fan theories, ARGs or whatever but apart from the word "unused" you described him completely.
I'm trying but the fucker is 2d.
How many games about escapism does it take
For every 100 games supposedly about escapism this brown as shit board never actually gets any right.
ya know now that i think about it i'm not sure
maybe i'm retarded
no dark dollars when beaten
do they work like napsablook and mad dummy then? You can't kill what's already dead?
Ay you niggas know what chargeman ken is?
The footage seems doctored a little, between the post battle xp and $ prompt not being there and that pacify prompt
or the Japanese translations that took 1+ year
Japs make good fan art.
Regrettably, yes.
How much porn is a female schizo-boss going to get? I don't know if these threads are ready for it.
everyone's HP is way too high compared to pacifist.
Anon your hp increases every chapter
It's chapter 4
???
Doesn't excuse a translation to take a year or plus, even less so in this current year when you have AI tools that not only translate any language but can also help you automate the task
Hehe yeah youtube.com
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You are silly
I've seen people suggest that the Guei relate to Berdly.
This seems silly as Berdly is alive in the normal route and I don't think Toby would give us a preview if that was the case.
What feels much more likely to me is that they are related to Crystal, Snowy's dead mother.
graveyard darkworld?
Kind of weird that Toby would decide to tease some spirits bound to darkeners seemingly for no reason.
You know, over something like Chapter 3 related stuff.
Why?
I mean, such a thing would definitely fit.
why would you use story beats of an unrelated thing to speculate about this game
You should interact with more things that aren't videogames to understand that.
You think he's messing with us?
How so?
Because I say so, silly billy
This idea also helps me rationalize one of their attacks. The diamond style ones which felt a little lazy to me at first as I didn't see how they related to this enemy and using these diamond style bullets after we had a chapter where diamond attacks were relevant felt really lazy. However given the gemstone connection to Crytsal this suddenly makes a little more sense to me.
Well you know, that one rumor about Ralsei.
Well the problem with it being Crystal is that Guei generally have much to do with improper burials and missed mourning rituals.
Crystal appears properly buried and honored with a gravestone, as are Shyren's sister and Muttler (Endogeny).
But, there is an Amalgamate missing...
The most mysterious of all of them.
Come join the fun.
I have only been sparing enemies and have never used Ralsei's pacify when I have been given the opportunity not to. This is footage of the post-weird route. You are exerting your will through Ralsei onto the darkners, forcing bonds onto the darkners rather than them accepting you as a friend/ally on their own terms (even Ralsei recognizes the POWER of breaking bonds). This is the opposite of doing the Pacifist route in Undertale by beating everybody up until they call for mercy.
Maybe pacify guei is better than spare it, they are ghost and maybe they need to pass over?
Oh yeah, that, it's probably a coincidence
Dude that gets really mad about anyone talking about that showing up in 3... 2... 1...
But, there is an Amalgamate missing
Found her!
Back to your containment thread you go
a snowy grave is enough for them
you know, eventually someone is gonna take your "Ralsei is based on a dead irl kid" shitpost as something truthful and that won't end well.
We really hate you and I want you out of our threads.
I love you Noelleanon
Gaster is Toby's stand-in. If he ever has a parallel moment to the player, it will be if you decide to make a dark world yourself to trap others in your "cursed mirror," as Toby put it.
don't laugh at the mentally disabled anon, it's not nice
why the fuck is this a sticky, fucking trannies man
are there any element austists here? it's a part of the game ive barely seen discussion on and i think it's pretty neat. we know that 2 elements share 1 spot in each element slot (confirmed by the sky mantle defending holy/elec, and there only being 11 elements in the code despite there obviously being more)
we're still missing a lot of the elements but we can fill in the blanks with a lot of them because all of them have themes that tie them together
for example, one of the clearest cut element duos is "Ice/Fight" due to be associated with pushing people away from you and emotional dissonance. Fight would most likely be the opposite of Heart, meaning Heart's duo is probably "Fire/Heart"
We
Nah it's just you buddy. I like those guys. How about you get out of my thread.
he's seeing phantom stickies
It's true! Gaster is a Toby Fox self-insert.
I don't pay heed to the ramblings of the mentally unhinged.
???
Wrong.
Annoying Dog is Toby's self-insert.
Oh what's the worst that could happen.
You know other than you, guy that is one person who gets upset about it.
What is some deltarune content creator going to suddenly be reading Anon Babble threads?
source on ice/fight?
Sentence fragments, sharp dialogue
4 minutes apart
These posts were made by Toby Fox. Hello.
So why does Kris turn blue in the dark world?
Why would Toby Fox shill his game here? He would 've gotten a better reception if he stayed in reddit.
Are you aware of how unbelievably obnoxious the reddit deltarune fanbase is?
Human
japanese website
Toby Fox would NEVER post here... right?
Toby is a troll at heart.
All three of the main protags are darkners.
Krismas comes from noelle
Susie comes from asriel and the dragon book
Ralsei comes from asriel's younger sibling drawn by the green crayon
the church will indeed be a church
wow...
Because according to their own description blurb, r/Deltarune is a community devoted to calling a certain fictional goober by proper pronouns. Good for them but I want a place to discuss the actual game.
they gave Sans this card because he spent, like, a week in Hometown and saw them couple of times so he would've forgotten about them in a month otherwise
deltarune chapter 3 and 4 release in 388 days
i hope susie does something by dumb so she gets asgore/chara-tier heat
i doubt sparing enemies trough alternative methods screws your pacifist playtrough, but i do hope it's like in undertale where if you spare them trough special means (like blowing away the dust bunnies or making the poppups crash) you get a special yellow name for that enemy in the credits
impossible the narrative will bent to her whims
YOU'RE BLUE NOW!
THAT'S MY ATTACK!
NYEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH!!!
da ba dee da ba dye
if kris turned green they would die
i will pacify gueis they need peace
the message's gonna be "even if fiction you've got invested in ends terribly you'll still have the fond memories to cherish, it's about the journey, not the destination" and the ending of the game will be worse than the ending of homestuck to drive home the point
Genocide is always gonna have similarities to the weird route just out of sharing some general themes. The main distinction is that Genocide is deconstructing the standard RPG-player approach of beating the game by getting as strong as possible. On the other hand weird route seems to be dealing with Deltarune's themes of fate and taking control of it. The player is taking whatever means they can to break the games intended script, no matter the repercussions and how it harms the characters.
In another sense, Undertale is about giving you the choice to approach what appears to be a run-of-the-mill jrpg in a new way (pacifist) or via genocide. Deltarune is explicity a game that is supposed to NOT give you a choice, and weird route is you finding and exploiting whatever cracks you can find.
I can't wait for Lancer to die because someone rips up the real jack of spades card.
and a ching chong ping pong to you, young lightners
throwing it just makes the card bounce back, so i doubt lancer is dying... soon atleast
i can't wait to see what happens when susie tries taping him back together
Already happened with the sweepstakes blogs.
Lancer only dies in the Weird route chapter 1 where you break Susie’s character development and she kills him in their fight instead of holding back
finish Chinese Canto just in time to play Chinese Deltarune
yup. Kino.
the entire message is effectively just "you had to BE THERE man!!!", aka fandom-based FOMO
i think that's somehow worse
The contents of the game are going to change for no reason and won't have intrinsic value
Bro what are you talking about?
Like especially with "fandom" FOMO, you miss out on nothing not dealing with the mentally ill people that scream pronoun at you
The dark worlds are basically portals into Dess' mind and memories and they're already filled with references to her.
How is Card Kingdom a reference to Dess?
i still wanna fuck that dog thing
all the heat went to Noelle instead
This is literally just going to be the fucking Yiik plot isn’t it
Characters sister is missing (dead) and characters drown themselves in escapism to cope until the world is destroyed
I think you should kill yourself for posting this.
guei guei
guys guys GUYS i just thought of the funniest shit ever [spoilers]DELTATROON[/spoilers]
Jaru will be vindicated.
As a fellow theorist schizo, stay, anon. Also the SOUL is Goner!Frisk.
Already happens in the actual game but people have the memories of goldfish and are going to be completely blindsided when she murders someone
No, it's gonna be Vangers
thanks to (You)r tutelage, Shit Gang will achieve sentience and go to real Earth
unless you do Weird Route, in which case the reality will be wiped clean of anomalies
and if you do both routes, Chara will return
I have only been sparing enemies and have never used Ralsei's pacify
To be fair Ralsei's Pacify just sucks and has no real purpose. Noelle's version being multitarget makes it actually good but Ralsei is a shitter for some reason.
Do you guys think the Weird Route will continue to be a Genocide equivalent or do you think it just happened the best course of action to gain freedom in Chapter 2 involved killing and the future of the route won't actually be that violent
Because they're naturally blue and we just out-red them
What does a Goner need such cute armpits for?
I think it will continue to require fighting, it’s a theme it shares with Undertale that the alt route requires going against the developer’s intent. But it won’t be killing everything possible in future chapters, it will be killing very specific enemies only.
Uh-oh, guys, I don't think we can trust Lancer anymore
The beads in the hospital suggest there will be more victims, but there is a possibility that no other character will be killed off. There could possibly still be ways to remove characters from the narrative without murder.
Was Toby really making a "when you get to heaven but it's Chinese" joke?
Lancer is a bad guy...?
Always has been.
Lancer? The true mastermind.
Are the chances to find eggsman change with repeat walkthroughs? I tried like fifty times during my first playthrough and gave up, now I got egg rooms in both chapters in 3-4 tries.
Lancer is just Sans
He's more like Papyrus plus some Toriel mixed in.
I'm slightly disappointed honestly. I was hoping the dark world would be a super specific look at one religion but now it's just looking like surface level low effort commentary on the general concept of religion
Anyone have that upped-contrast screenshot of Guei's win screen with the blacked out text?
someone rips apart the card
now there are two, smaller, lancers
Everyone is talking about plot implications and I'm just glad we have a healer now who isn't in the last position in turn order so you can now squeeze some healing in before sparing the last enemy. Hell, middle position is the perferct, Kris gets some TP by defending, Susie heals, Ralsei spares.
more of a papyrus base left to rest and rise
with some sans mixed in once it's set
sprinkle some undyne on top of it, and all goes unto a MTT brand oven to cook for 1 chapter
take it with you and enjoy with your local sus
Toby is never gonna do something controversial chapter 4 will be super milquetoast
you can’t disprove a universal constant therefore all positions are equally valid except for cults because they’re icky
except for cults
Isn't he in the one? I don't think Episcopalean church counts as actual religion.
how is dess making the fountains retard
all your arguments support mayor holiday as well, so just go for that like a sensible person
I am the knight.
No because cults are emotionally manipulative toward people who are going through a time of weakness and real religions aren’t :)
Can't wait for a sequel to this drawing where Susie uses her mastered "heal" on Ralsei
Is this a joke about like, proper churches or... because the Church I go to was pretty understanding when we lost a family member.
No, it's gonna be specifically chinese religion to throw everyone off. That's something Toby would do(it non-offensive because he'll say he got a Chinese guest artist to do the enemy designs)
Politebuster :)
i was quite retarded (moreso than now) when i was little so i'm surprised the church i went to managed to withstand me without ever having to beat me up into shape, so i'd say they're quite welcoming most of the time
but sadly god hates faggots so i have to ditch christianity
Jevil and spamton both imply through word and action that genocide route is the path to freedom
It will be about ghosts and dead people. Btw Gerson's hammer will be the main boss.
Jesus Christ died for all of humanity y'know.
Even if someone says God hates faggots, he loves his Son more. And He died for you. I think it balances out.
Wow, could the jack named after a knight's weapon be a bad guy? Impossible!
Spamton also implies the ending will be bad and miserable. So not the "true" route.
The joke is that the line between a cult and a religion is drawn entirely arbitrarily. Going to nursing homes and telling the people there they need to repent before they die can be cult like behavior or just well meaning proselytizing depending on who is doing it.
The game is probably going to talk about how religion gives Noelle hope she’ll see her sister again and argue that even if it’s not true she deserves that hope.
because the mentally damaged that tried to kill you in multiple instances are very reliable
To be fair "all religions are real at the same time" is a staple to JRPGs like the SMT franchise.
But it does makes sense if you do believe in religion(in a non-closeminded way), you can assume gods can take on whatever form they want.
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE CHINESE FORESHADOWING?
Spamton will say whatever if you let him kill you
i've been skipping the entire dialogue since understale, dont really understand why you guys care so much about nothing
Have you tried reading?
I knew that Rudy looked slightly Asian with that Fu Manchu facial hair and small eyes, so it does not surprise me to know that he actually is Chinese
spamton says something that agrees with my theory so it must be true
but when spamton says this other thing that doesn't fit my theory he's clearly bullshitting
ok
Dess is the girl in the code, she wouldn’t have access to the surface unless she was poking holes through the bottom
The game will not reward evil acts. You won't be able to rape the doe into becoming your tradwife either. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Another reason why I hated the idea of a dark world happening in a church. Fucking shitheads are talking about religion now, something equally as shitty as politics, and they can pretend they have an excuse for it.
Toby you fucking idiot.
Get real. My evil acts have already been rewarded. I came.
yes
i know what you mean, but i can't give away my kind of attractions, maybe the word of god tells otherwise, but the bible and the church do not want to associate with me if i don't change my thoughts on that, at best i can be part of one of those modern churches that accept everyone and everything but at that point i may as well be an atheist because all the values of the church are lost besides those that devolve it into a husk made just to help people and be a better person minus everything else that composes the religion and the ghphillion unwritten unspoken rules it tolls with it
inb4 undertale/deltarune?
hit cars
You missed out on the good ending
NGMI
K
his real name is Ludi
Lu Di, you mean
:/
God doesn't hate gays he hates sodomy.
I don't mind the philosophical side of religion at all but literal interpretation like this always manages to turn me off of it. Like the idea of a skydaddy and his sonself who died to blood loss/exposure but never took a shit because poop is gross is silly.
you'd think he's bullshitting but there's people out there who genuinely skip all undertale dialogue/any story-heavy game dialogue when playing it for the first time and then complain about how boring it is and instead go play league of legends or something
he's gay and chinese and his dick is small?
We do need to find the most fitting translation
multimillion dollar breakout hit indie dev endorsed by the Pope himself can’t stop seething at Chad fedora tippers
We can’t stop winning
All he's saying is that fantasy beats reality so you should stop trying to break out of the escapism shit
never took a shit because poop is gross
How'd you get that from what I said?
Jesus literally became a man while also being God. I'm pretty sure he shidded and farded plenty and it was funny.
Small Chinese gay reindeer bottoms for big American gay goat
Has Toby always been this political?
Love isn't the same thing as allowing everything. Paul explains that in Corinthians, plus Revelation 21:8:
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
I'm not bullshitting what the fuck dude, also some dialogue is unskippable. I feel like i haven't miss a single beat when it comes to the story... of both games.
Characters and moments are too similar anyways.
based speedreader
Celibate priests who have literally never been in a relationship, telling people they are "objectively disordered" if they want a romantic relationship with someone they fell in love with who is the 'wrong' sex
I sure hope Alvin wouldn't do this.
I really hope FRIEND will be a big fat cat
religion sucks
argue with me about it
Now this I can get behind.
Y'know cause he'd be so big
if ch 4 has a generic "lgbt bad" anti-church message in relation to suselle I will kill myself
Alvin hates gays and will smite them with his hammer
Islam and the other islam? Hinduism? they suck . Christianity and Buddhism are really cool, meditation and having values are good for you.
You suck, prove me wrong
Haha Player, you're banging my pet cat
cat penis
The only way this would apply to faggots would be if they were considered "abominable".
In which case, certainly the parading men on pride day beckoning in the little boys in the crowd to join them will burn-- but my brothers and sisters who don't actively pervert others into their faggotry, I have hope for.
At the end of time there will be judgement anyway. There is now to change one's ways, and if Jesus is merciful, even at the end.