14k CCU

no acrobatics

no athletics

no spell crafting

no npc scheduling

no decent faction questlines

But it takes place in le Norway so that means it’s better

Yes. Not even TES6 will replace skyrim. People have become too accustomed to it.

Not matter the fancy make up Oblivion will always be the awkward middle child of the TES series

No npc scheduling

What. Skyrim was literally made famous because of npc scheduling. Something bethesda never does anymore in their recent games.

Retard alert

You would know because when the remaster came out everybody just rushed to post memes. Nobody talked about the gameplay or story at all.

>no acrobatics

jump

die from fall damage

Good riddance

>no athletics

Oblivion is so bad that you need to move faster so you can beat it quicker. Skyrim does not have this problem

>no spell crafting

Potion crafting > spell crafting

>no npc scheduling

They do have schedules. They just don’t waste your time by spending half the week actively hiding from you

>no decent faction questlines

This is just a lie. Oblivion faction quests are pure trash.

oh the companions questline is a joke and so is the college of winterhold

Companions is just a daedric quest in disguise. I wouldn’t compare it to the Fighter’s guild.
College of Winterhold sucks, I’ll give you that

less than Cyberpunk

toddsisters...

14K CCU for a multiplat, gamepass included, low budget remaster almost 2 months after its launch

Todd always wins.

Oblivion was shit back then. Now it is same shit but with ray tracing and flat-chest meridia

Skyrim factions are trash too. But at least you can sell lydia's anal virginity to clavicus vile dog.

No Skyrim Together-like coop mode

Skyrim is just as bad

I can't tell if that's AI or not, fuck this world

Recommend me some rape mods fampai

no npc scheduling

Literally every town npc has a schedule

Oblivion was always my least favourite of the 3d elder scrolls games, got bored by it then and got bored by it now.

Nerfed hard from Oblivion cause the devs were worried about the NPCs getting killed by the stupid poorly programmed dragons

Get used to that.

I was thinking exactly the same thing. I must be retarded, usually I'm good at seeing through IA

dragon kills villagers

this is somehow unrealistic

Take it up with the dumbass Skyrim devs, I didn’t make the game.

The magic system in oblivion is both a downgrade and upgrade compared to Skyrim with it's pretty effects and straightforwardness in spells.
Oblivion is superior with nuance but normalfags don't have time for that

Devs were worried about NPCs getting killed by dragons even though an entire village can attack said dragon.

IA

Pedro or Pierre? Cringe in either case

Did you know French speakers and Spanish speakers are both technically Latinx people?

I'm a proud moortuguese shitalian latinx

Oblivion is a bad game, always was, the gameplay is one of the worst in its genre
People fell for the hype like sheeps and quickly realized it wasn't that good actually

Unironically this. Skyrims modding scene is just leagues ahead of Morrowind and Oblivion it's hard for either of them to realistically compete. Everything you could prefer from the older games is fixed by mods.

mods and the shitty setting

They have basic af scheduling in Skyrim
Most NPCs don't even go to sleep
The average NPC loiters a bit and stands in roughly one area.
The merchant NPCs go to sleep and man the shop
99% NPCs within a city remain in that city unless quest related

In oblivion most NPCs have schedules like going to the bar to drink/eat, going to church to pray, leaving the city entirely to travel to a new one to stay for awhile(risk of them actively dying when attacked during their journey)
You can go to the imperial market on different days and you'll find different NPCs around.
Many NPCs have scheduling that reflects a little flavor text like a guy going to an house to enjoy skooma.
Aside from some the guards 99% of NPCs in oblivion have places to sleep

Hands, retard. They generally have 5 fingers, but Keanu has a middle finger coming out from his middle finger, and Agent Smith's hand in dead center is a gnarled mess that is coming from the wrong side. If you can't spot simple shit like that, you're never gonna make it and should go find some Amish community where it will be safer for you

Unless you really want to play a mage, Oblivion is just Skyrim but much worse.

anyone using latinx as a word deserves death

single player game comes out

hype

big player count

time passes

people are done with game

hype goes down

players go down

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW GAME IS DEAD

t. Latinx

If normalfags, and some of the people in this website even, have quest npcs dying to dragons they would sue bethesda

Unless you really like draugrs, Skyrim is just Oblivion but much worse.

going to church to pray

man i forgot about that
we didn't realize how good we had it
for as buggy as bethesda games are, at least they're trying that stuff
its like the opposite of a cutscene

I got 70 hours of playtime of oblivion in about a week when the remaster launched

it's like proudly claiming you're a retard who can't speak
romance language=/=latino/latina

14k ccu

for a single player remake of a 20 year old games

2 weeks after release

on one of the platforms it is available

they didn't even have to remake the engine, it's a literal reskin of a 20 year old game

Massive W for Bethesda. Todd swimming in dosh right now

drop a cabbage

two npcs kill each other for it

I don’t think they were too concerned about accidents among the npcs

imagine if they commited to something like that and the longer you put off killing alduin the more Skyrim would fall apart.

No it’s like saying shitskinned subhumans from South America culturally appropriating the legacy of the ancient Roman Latins deserve to get dunked on, you Latinx.

Does Oblivion have a spell that allows you to launch yourself from a mountain and explode upon landing?

quest npcs dying to dragons

how to overcome this though?

Nothing. It's pure kino. Todd saved gaming, again.

Waiting for moo

I keep forgetting AI overhauls add this feature and it isn't in vanilla kek

got it on gamepass
same with doom the dark ages
consumers lost
gabe newell lost

Talking about Skyrim? Because that’s in vanilla Oblivion.

Who tf unironically uses winjeet services without being forced at gunpoint is beyons me

It is vanilla in oblivion
It's literally the schedule of the firs woman you have to tail in Paranoia

but I'm neither latino nor latina and you're speaking like a retarded nigger like any blue-haired fag using them/they

imagine paying $70 for a mediocre denuvo'd game instead of renting it then never playing it again after beating it

smithing

upgrading

enchanting

alchemy affecting it all

finishers

stealth kills

kill cams

bandits at best wearing steel plate

The only thing about Skyrim that does legit piss me off is the lack of world reactivity.

dragon attacks town

peasants fleeing

you kill it

big ass skeleton in the middle of town

everybody back to business 5 minutes later

Besides that it is literally perfect.

Keep crying Latinx goblino

Dark brotherhood is the Astrid simp club and thieves guild is the Karliah simp club/Nocturnal quest
In Oblivion the quest were varied and there were good twists

Skyrim is unironically better
Better gameplay
Better music
Better world
Better landscape

I don't even have a single game launcher installed.

Enchanting was gimped to fuck and alchemy has been a thing since forever

Probably just my bias but skyrim just hits different man.
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Thieves Guild

Go into this cave, kill draugrs, and find macguffin.
Congrats, you’re the guild leader now.

Mages Guild

Go into this cave, kill draugrs, and find macguffin.
Congrats, you’re the guild leader now.

Companions

Go into this cave, kill draugrs, and find macguffin.
Congrats, you’re the guild leader now, and also a werewolf for some reason.

Didnt mean to quote

Reply to wrong post?

Nah

nigger calls a white European latinx

keeps using nigger speak introduced by leftoids

can't differentiate between male and female because he's a braindead nigger so he resorts to the leftoid niggerspeak

but sure I'm crying...just like I'd "cry" if you shat your pants in public, Jamal.

Latinx kvetching

Don’t care, you’re Latinx and always will be, Latinx.

Anon Babble pls leave
this is a comfy thread

As opposed to the caves with rats and imps in Oblivion?

towns , fun dialogue

Wrong, sometimes you're blessed with ayleid ruins!

Rats and imps and skeletons and zombies and goblin tribes and etc.
Meanwhile Skyrim has draugrs, draugr overlords, draugr deathlords, draugr ubermegalords, etc.

ayleid ruins

want glowing crystal

can't reach

cant jump off the level geometry

shoot it with an arrow to knock it down

you just get that for free because of the physics engine

What does it add to the game?
Are these schedules ever used in quests, do example do you ever need to follow an NPC figure out his schedule in order ot figure out what's the proper time to break into his house?
No, there is not, it's all just pure autism. One quest where you are ordered to follow an NPC you don't have to do anything with them, you are just telling the questor that they are innocent (or lie that they are guilty, no further input). In assassination quests they pretty much always stay at one place.
Wasted feature and devtime

modded

Skyrim > Morrowind > Oblivion

vanilla

Morrowind > Skyrim > Oblivion

No matter how you prefer playing. Oblivion is the worst of the 3.

it's all just pure autism

if you already knew the answer, why ask the question
toddlikes are the model trains of videogames

In Oblivion, they both start out good and has a ton of mystery to it. It’s intriguing trying to figure out the Gray Fox’s plan and you start noticing a familar pattern with the contracts. But the ending of both questlines are just awful. Nightmother (oblivion) is an even bigger retard than Astrid, and Gray Fox casually using an elder scroll just to simp for his wife (instead of I dunno, reviving the fucking emperor?) was fucking lame.
Also considering how bounties work in Oblivion, it’s best to ignore both questlines

Wrong about music, correct about everything else
Even then skyrims music is more reactive, battle drums when a rat sees you in oblivion is the lamest thing possible

Skyrim has draugrs

and falmer and dwemer

Skyrim is watered down Oblivion
Oblivion is even more watered down Morrowind
People who think Skyrim is a good game are beyond saving, combat is for simpletons, leveling feels meaningless and the perks lackluster, HP, Stamina or Magicka?? where are the fucking attributes? The world revolves around the player making a loser like yourself feel super special instead of having this zero to hero progression both character and story-wise, the writing is god-awful and at times, makes no sense and isn't consistent. Dialogue is meaningless as the game drags you along with it, no decision making as everything leads to the same conclusion

I have this decent analogy for it, Skyrim is an amusement park, or maybe simply just a carnival ride, Oblivion being the amusement park and Morrowind being an actual RPG.
There's nothing wrong with liking the games, but thinking they're some high-brow peak video gaming, you've never played good games in your life if you think so.

Skyrim is good collectaphon game, wdym? And lets be honest, nobody plays vanilla Skyrim

Only if the sole reason you play TES is for killing and looting shit for hundreds of hours. Oblivion is bad but it has fun shit like running runnig and jumping like a maniac, on board potion making, custom spells ect.
Its entertaining at the very least, something Skyrim cant do.
Also mods are irrelevant to the conversation.
Claiming a game is great with mods is like saying a handicapped person is perfectly capeable of walking, he just needs an oxygen tank and a wheelchair and someone to push the wheelchair.
Im not saying this because I think your a faggot and I have an opportunity to call you a faggot, this is what I honestly believe the things Im saying.

did you hear?

no

they say he got nipped by a mudcrab

FOUL THINGS!

good day

you too

I mean it’s funny dialogue. But whoever said it was immersive was clearly lying

Same lel

Skyrim is watered down Oblivion

This, people like it because their uber casuals, Skyrim lets you turn your brain off and do the same thing over and over again and thats its bread and butter, being stale and mind numbingly simple fun for people who like to delude themselves into thinking they finally found a perfect RPG to play they actually like.

i wonder how long it will take till people realize that all elder scrolls games suck and are extremely overrated. their next elder scrolls will be the same, just like their space game. it will be terrible but hundreds of thousands of people will gobble it up initially, just for it to fall off in a few weeks into permanent irrelevancy. then they will sell skyrim nostalgia deluxe version to cover up their losses

I can't stand Oblivion music, it's playing 24/7 and the same 3 songs
Skyrim's music fits more with the landscape in my opinion

Basedbeard hype Demaster cashgrab. And the game was never good in the first place.

it will depend on how streamlined it gets
Skyrim is already bordering into being a generic Action game with some RPG elements.
If they butcher the game more, it might be the straw that broke the camels back

In the end it was just a psyop by Todd to make people boot up Skyrim

Ahahahaha I fucking told you stupid ass morons this would happen. Why did you argue against me? I was right. Skyrim is the better game overall, that's why it keeps on living.

There’s only one quest I can think off. You need to kill a retired captain. You get a special arrow that can instantly kill him instantly if he’s not wearing armor. He only doffs it when he’s sleeping and swimming. I tried to play it immersive and stalk him until he went for a swim and after finally killing him after 30 minutes of waiting, I just thought “well this was a huge waste of time”

Hell of a lot more immersive than games that don’t have spontaneous NPC conversations like that in them

You got some nerve to claim NPC AI from Oblivion was nerfed, WHEN Oblivion is famous for absolutely butchering the Radiant AI that it was supposed to have. Lmao you disingenuous fuck. It's one of the biggest lies about Oblivion. Go watch the E3 2005 demo where it's completely different.

What does it add to the game?

This is the same bullshit argument the defenders of that dumpsterfire Avowed use

why would anybody need reactive NPCs or a world that feels in any way real? Just do the fucking missions the devs wrote for you and stop trying to have fun!

20-60fps native

You are hilariously delusional and out of touch with reality. Oblivion is the most dumbed down RPG in history that turned a CRPG into an action game. RPG fans bashed it and gave it a poor rating for a reason.
rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=129

reviews from 2006

If only they knew how good they had it. The following years, especially 2011, must’ve been really hard for OG rpg fans.

No nostalgia for Oblivion back then. The reason why this garbage bland hideous game gets any praise is because zillennials played it when they were kids. They don't have any good arguments, it's just "soul", despite the Demaster being completely soulless-looking.

what went wrong?

nothing? its a single player game. everyone put 100+ hours into it, played all the quests, done all the things to do, now they take a breather.

Yeah the remaster is a little more soulless than before because they used the horrendous Skyrim color palate of grey and brown over everything. There’s already mods to fix that and bring back the saturation though.

oh boy I sure do love fighting bandits and daugr and visiting empty towns with shallow quests: the game.

bethestards are a special breed.

0.00001% finished it. Most people didn't play it the next day. They were conned by sóybeards on Youtube.

2 weeks after release

it's been almost a month broseph.
It came out 22.04, I pirated it 26.04, the work is slow so I've been playing it almost non stop, finaly got bored couple days ago and couldn't believe how much time I've spent figuring out different builds, on master difficulty of course.
And I have to say, enemy difficulty is extremely well thought out. A lot of npc's point you to plenty of capped lvl dungeons too if you are having difficulties. It made me wonder how more thought out Morrowind is in that regard, going to check it out next

Skyrim looks great and uniform in its relative low detail. The combination of white plus spots of green is pleasing. It's only ugly in the snowfree non-forest areas. Oblivion Demaster is mainly ugly because Indians made it using UE5 with default settings and 99% of them are brown and bloom, just as they have been since the days of UE3.

imo oblivion is right there on the edge where more focus on "action" would tip it into being compete shit like all the bethesda games that followed it.
As it is it's is not perfect, but definitely good

it's almost summer. people have other plans. playing is less fun at this time of year

There’s a BIG difference between two npcs not having a dialogue on repeat and an npc not even reacting when you attack it

They were conned by sóybeards on Youtube.

kinda. those greedy niggers gatekeeping modding really left a sour taste. other than that it was a pretty good remaster, but obviously they did the absolute minimum. instead of adding more depth and quality of life improvements they just wrapped it up in ue5 via jeet slave labour, but they also wanted to keep the original experience because that was the safest thing (and least work) to do.

but its kinda the occuring theme nowadays. worldbuilders, editors, mod compatibility, they do anything to lock these behind their professional lines. they hate it when an unemployed nerd kid makes something in 2 weeks that blows their 200million dollar slop out of the water.

if this game had a proper editor I would have already sunk weeks into it.
triple a slop jews, management, dei hires and jeets dont want people to know how many actually talented and actually fun and creative minds are out there, being able to make games entertaining without much effort. same goes for hollywood and netflix. bunch of talentless hacks gatekeeping and sniffing their own farts because thats all mediocre sociopaths can do.

Anyway the game is proper nostalgic fun, fun for newcomers and very fun for tes fans, but there is not much to do in this game after 100 hours. thats still good, as most single player games got 8 hours in them. Crysis warhead was a standalone release and the whole campaign took barely 4 hours to complete.

citing RPGcodex

youtube.com/watch?v=nsXttSA0lng

concurrent users

It's a single player game sweatie. I finished my playthrough and moved on

this

Been playing it a bit. It really is the ugly middle child. Not streamlined and smooth enough like Skyrim. But the RPG elements are all half asses and broken so not a fun old rpg like Morrowind.
The nonsensical rebalance of the game the remaster made doesn't help it either.

Are they seriously never going to update the game to fix performance/bugs?

don't care if I'm a retard and wrong

you insist on using a self-own so much it's puzzling

Its hard to justify Oblivion, even if the remaster is nice, when you can load up Skyrim with tons of mods(especially dozens of gooning mods).

If oblivion was modded out I would be playing it right now.

You didn't even read what I said yet had to quote me
I agreed with you that it's a dumbed down "RPG"
next time you pull someone into your inane ramblings, READ

Oblivion faction quests are pure trash.

Yeah, you didn't play the game.

Oblivion has possibly the worst gameplay of any major AAA game I have ever played.

everything goes right

"What went wrong?"

Every single time.

Based toddgodds

WAH WWAHH MY OTHER MASTERPIECE HAS MORE PLAYERS THAN MY OTHER OTHER MASTERPIECE

bruh

Oblivion has some decent ideas but the design is just fundamentally bad. Morrowind wasn't particularly interactive or heavily scripted in it's quests but at least there was enough finesse in the actual mechanics that any given task often had multiple solutions due to the nature of the mechanics. Like, look at the Unfriendly Competition quest. It's not bad, neat little story i guess, but it's so... lacking in interactivity. Imagine if you could solve it in whatever manner you desire.

Also level scaling is bad. Always has been, and always will be.

When I played oblivion I had this glorious PC

Pentium 4 2.6GHz

GeForce 7300GT DDR3

1GB DDR

I had to manually edit the config file to run settings below low, 1024x768 and it still ran like shit often below 40FPS.
Now nearly 20 years later they still didn't manage to fix the performance.
Also Oblivion was shit for consolefags.

Oblivion could have been great if they completely undid the leveling system on this remaster/the original. As it is right now it's the same game start to finish and you never feel stronger than the enemies.

This.
Oblivionfags are so deluded into thinking this is the better game.
Granted, the cities are more believably sized, the dialogue is goofier, some questlines are more in depth than their Skyrim equivalents, and magic is better (but you're pigeonholed into it bc level scaling and combat is complete ass). But that's it.

In term of gameplay itself, Skyrim is better across most metrics.

Oblivion cities, though more believable than Skyrim's are either dead empty with maybe 1 guard and 1 beggar standing around what is otherwise a literal ghost town, or NPCs all spawn in some area and stand around like tards holding the worst conversation you've ever heard in your life (which although goofy, makes the world seem empty and shallow) and talk over each other.

Then 99% of gameplay in Oblivion is either: crawl into some copy+paste generic dungeon #52 and whack a bunch of randomly generated enemies for loot, then run back for 5 minutes, or whack some enemy in the Overworld. There is no depth to dungeon crawling or literally any interaction.
At least Skyrim tried to implement puzzles, or place NPCs within some dungeons that don't auto-aggro but instead provide for interesting interactions. The only "interesting" moments in Oblivion almost purely in quest dialogue but never translates into gameplay.
And when, in Oblivion's case, the only gameplay is pretty much whack X, the combat should at least feel good. But due level scaling, weak combat, and the constant repetitive nature of the game, it's complete ass.

Literally everything about Oblivion feels shallow af and empty.

And this is not to say that Skyrim is a flawless masterpiece, but it certainly plays better than Oblivion does.

I have this analogy for you: YOU'RE GAY!

In term of gameplay itself, Skyrim is better across most metrics.

Skyrim suffers from stripping out even more of the leveling system. Most individual elements play better but as a whole your character feels less your own.

I would also say Oblivion has better moments. There are quests I remember almost two decades later. I can barely remember any side quests in Skyirm.

the guy you were replying to has retarded takes, but holy shit you managed to one-up his retardation with your own retard takes

Skyrim has scheduling actually it's famous for it

No actually Oblivion NPC scheduling is far more complex and Skyrim scheduling is a lobotomized shell

W...well NPC scheduling is gay anyway who needs it

Hilarious back and forth. Thanks for the laugh Anons.

meant to include

has more players than NuDoom despite being out longer

What went wrong?

still better than nu-doom

Nothing

Kill yourself lying faggot DO IT

I'm not gonna argue that Oblivion doesn't have better quests than Skyrim overall, but imo the simple quests of Skyrim really help make the wold feel more immersive and lived in.
Oblivion has this problem where every quest tries way too hard to be memorable or goofy or have some sort of twist, which makes them all feel like stories specifically written for you as the player to experience. Skyrim's quests feel "dull" in the sense that they're as dull as what everyday life in a world like this would be.
Skyrim has so many quests like this, and they're littered around the map for you to come across naturally. There's the one in Falkreath where you find a guy sitting on a log outside a cave, and help clear the cave for him, there's one on the road from whiterun to eastmarch, where a nord is warming up by a campfire in front of a nordic ruin, and asks for your help to kill a necromancer who's raising his dead family members. There's a quest in one of the random forts where a guy is looking for his wife who was taken by bandits, etc etc.
None of these quests have a big twist to them, you just go in and solve the problem, and move on. Stuff like this make the world feel like there's things happening in every corner.
This is why you often have people reporting about what cool things they came across in Skyrim, because it was designed to be that way. One moment you're catching butterflies then another moment a talking dog comes up to you. One moment you're walking in the shores and the next moment you come across a bunch of bandits fighting a mamooth and a giant. It's fucking awesome.

Oblivion is nothing like this. In Oblivion, you go after quests, people tell you to do something, and then you do it. The craziest thing Oblivion does is have NPCs talk about something that's happening in town, and then you can investigate that yourself, but that's as far as it goes. It's nothing compared to Skyrim.

I still love Oblivion tho

Oblivion also has a lot of quests that merely depend on the wow factor
The fucking painted world quest that everybody creams themselves over is nothing more than just a visual. You literally just kill like 4 trolls and you're done lmao

pigeonholed into it

Just don't use magic and don't level it.
Although how the fuck would you even go about having a magicless character idk, you are bound to have some magic schools as your major skills unless you do shit like picking both blade and blunt, heavy and light armor.
But on master as warrior you will have to use potions anyway, but you can just buy them

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Skyrim has the best map design, I hope TES6 can live up to it.

YOU! Grand Champion! You’re the chosen one, I KNEW it the moment I saw the sigil patterns in your footstep dust! You’ve broken the Arena’s soul-binding hexagon — THEY CAN’T CONTAIN YOU ANYMORE!

He’s panting. His eyes are bulging. He’s wearing the same yellow tunic and puffy hair, but the voice is a hoarse thunderstorm of barely contained rage and admiration.

You think the Arena’s about bloodsport? WRONG. It’s a Daedric harvesting mechanism built by Mehrunes Dagon loyalists hiding in the Fighters Guild! Every match funnels psychic anguish into a pocket realm north of Kvatch where they're growing—get this—INTERPLANAR GRAPES FOR DEADRIC WINE!

He leans in like he’s about to share state secrets:

And that sword they gave you? It's not ceremonial. It’s a resonant blade keyed to your soul frequency. They’ll be tracking you. Watching you. Feeding off your victories unless we put it in a lead-lined sack and throw it in the deepest part of the Niben.

Listen. You need a squire. A truth assistant. Someone who understands the interdimensional warfare we’re in. I’ve got scrolls. I've got diagrams. I’ve got a Dwemer tin-foil hat and three vials of undiluted chapel salt to keep the dream-eaters out!

BY TALOS' BURNING ABS — I’M GONNA FOLLOW YOU AROUND UNTIL THE AYLEIDS COME BACK OR I DROP DEAD FROM TRUTH OVERLOAD! LET’S GO EXPOSE THE SECRET LIZARD COUNCIL OF BRUMA!

Enchanting and Smithing were good additions, and I like Skyrim but

finishers

kill cams

stealth kills

Come on man.