But how many people are gonna go back to 1 and just simply never return to 2?

Personally I'll only play PoE 1 again if the league rewards are something cool I can use in PoE 2.
People seem to have completely memoryholed any new content they add to PoE 1 will just be completely trivialized by insane overlapping character defense systems and 50million+ dps dogshit.

WOWIE ZOWIE A NEW ENDGAME BOSSIE

On Farm 6 hours after league start

I'm not sure why they are doing this, if you are going to make poe2 then make poe2, stop worrying about the whiny bitches who can't let go of 1.

Both games are going to die at this rate.

I won't play it unless it has WASD.

I'm not coming back to 1 or 2. BFR's bad terrible leagues before he retired to his bed made of Magic Cards and tranny jizz and Jonathan "I am a real director too" Rogers have broken the spell forever
after 4k hours I am FREE

because PoE 2 fucking sucks and everyone knows it. I wonder what Ziz is going to do for a real job now. Mathil is going to 'accidentally' fall while bouldering.

insane overlapping character defense systems

retard

50million+ dps dogshit.

This is the real problem that needs to be hit, you don't need to pretend it's anything else

Except it doesn't "suck", you've been caught up in a swarm of retards parroting eachother. It's unfinished and they need to fucking work on it, not the game they want/need/should leave behind.

you actually like it you just don't know that you do

lol
lmao

This is the real problem that needs to be hit, you don't need to pretend it's anything else

That's literally the one thing people who cling to poe1 want, they want to go mach 6 while pressing 1 button deleting screens faster than their gpu can draw the enemy models. You can see where poe2 was overtuned that it caused actual riots to happen, people were in tears over having to fight a mob for more than 0.01 nanosecond.

nah it fucking BLOWS DONKEY COCK. FOMO is over, playercount shows the truth.

we've gone from "one game two campaigns" to "game one should die"

Knew this was gonna happen. Sequel was always a terrible idea.

So you can explain to us why it isn't a good game, where it's major and minor faults are, and why these faults are in fact long term debilitations and not something that is caused by being a half finished game released as a beta and cannot be fixed in the future by any means.

Surely, and I mean surely here, you won't reply with a 3 word response, I believe in you and your ability to write out a solid response and explain your beliefs to us like an adult.

This post showcases the average PoE2 hater intelligence, people who most likely gained access to the internet within the last 5 years.

Dont bother dude, its just the resident Anon Babble schizo, he's just gonna spam shitty facebook meme edits of the PoE 2 dev for the rest of the thread.

yeah, sure I could, but you're a mentally ill retard who will plug his years and go

UH NO NO

so get fucked, retard

NO YOU HAVE TO CONVINCE ME WHY THE BAD GAME THAT LOST ALL ITS PLAYERS IN DAY 3 OF THE NEW UPDATE IS BAD

no I don't lol

most of the people in this thread have never been in an uber fight. let alone have they even made it to red maps. you are all posers who couldn't even farm essences in white maps.

Sorry, Jonathan. Still not playing PoE2.
Looking forward to the PoE1 patch though!

don't bother, samefag myself it's <insert person I made up/my boogeyman here>

holy mental illness

hey so I killed uber Maven and current PoE still sucks, what now?

im not saying it doesn't suck right now but i never trust the opinions of Anon Babbleermin that get filtered by ever game known to man that has the tiniest bit of resistance. not even exclusive to poe

Yeah exactly, you either:

Lack the mental capabilities to explain your thoughts and feelings to us like a normal human being

Are only parroting others opinions/posts and thus cannot explain them because they aren't yours to begin with

Live in a third world country

weird projection 17

I'm not here to 'converse' with you, you mentally ill retard. I'm here to shitpost and say

PoE 2 sucks cocks

Which is objectively also true, and you're here to seethe and get mad about it, but it won't unfuck the game. Have fun!

I don't really see any reason to be this tribalistic. I'll be checking out PoE2 again once the next major patch drops. Didn't really enjoy 0.2 all that much but maybe 0.3 will be good, or maybe it will also suck dick. Who knows?

more like GGG has released date on this shit multiple times

whoops.

I died at level 95 in HCSSF. Game is not that hard, most people can do white maps.

DELET THIS NOW
THE GAME IS GOOD
ACTS AREN'T PAINFULLY SLOW FOR EVEN SPEEDRUNNING STREAMERS AND REPETITIVE
DARK SOULS ROLL IS LE GOOD ACTUALLY
DELETE THIS NOW OR ELSE

I don't really see any reason to be this tribalistic.

I don't get it either but I'll happily join in. I didn't start fighting, 2fags told me my favoured game's the one that needs to die... So, you know, fuck 'em

I'm a casual I'll just wait till they make PoE2 easier and add more skills, the game became horrible to play around lvl 30 or so

You have to live your life anon, I'm glad I'm not you, I do feel sorry for you though. It must be exhausting spending every waking hour being mad that other people enjoy things and needing to scream at them as hard as you can.

PoE1 deserved to be retired, hopefully GGG stops fooling around and lets it rest and puts all of their effort into PoE2.

I'm not mad you're mad

YAWN get new material. I know you have lots of time because you're not playing PoE 2 right now (nobody is) but holy shit

I like the dark souls roll but I don't like bosses taking 15 minutes to kill if you aren't playing some elite streamer meta build

"Favorite game"

Hasn't even killed entry level pineapples bosses or ubers.

Barely makes it to T16 maps each league.

4k+ hours, been playing on and off since 2013

Stop larping you campaign warrior.

DARK SOULS ROLL IS LE GOOD ACTUALLY

This is one of the major bones of contention for me
They got rid of the wide variety of mobility spells - Flame Dash, Frostblink, Dash, Lightning Warp, et all... All different skills that serve different purposes and have their own niche uses.
And they replaced them with a gimped uniform dodge roll across all classes. It's fucking retarded

I got memed into believing this game is hard and complex, finished all acts and never touched it again.
It IS FUN and is definitely worth playing through considering it's F2P, but everything else beyond the main game is pure autism.

You sound very immature, not only are you unable to see the larger picture but your choice of words reeks of it. At over a decade old there isn't much room for growth, it's easier to port over your concepts and mechanics to a """new""" game instead of trying to attach yet another patch onto one that's already bogged down and sinking. PoE2 is the continuation of PoE1, being tribalistic and hating it because it has a fucking 2 at the end of the name is pure insanity.

I love Souls games, every single one of them. I just don't want it in my ARPG. Now every boss is balanced against some iframe dodge shit (that they had to patch the iframes into so you don't get stuck on monsters, million dollar company BTW lmao)

I took this screenshot for some other /poeg/ fag, but here you go anyway.
ONE GAME
TWO TOILETS
The new game's shit though. All your arguments for why it will actually be le good in the future also apply to the game I like. Sorry not sorry

being tribalistic

Yes, I wonder why you do that. Oh well, I'll never know.

Very few images ITT... Is this an imageboard or what??

No they didn't anon they all did the same fucking thing and were used the same way, the roll is unironically better as a default choice, everyone gets it and then players have the option to upgrade it into something else like Blink. Now sure, they do need more options than simply just blink, but the concept is there. Mobility spells are far more interesting as a defensive tool than gotta go fast zoom to the next pack.

i havent played since delve did they really make zana a boss? i always thought that was going to happen because after killing shaper and elder it always said (1 enemy remaining) and she was the only one in the area left

its not even a dark souls roll, it's monster hunter. anyone that calls it a dark souls style role literally does not play video games.

No they didn't anon they all did the same fucking thing and were used the same way,

I'm not going to respond with much effort to you if you're just gonna tell lies, anon.
There's a reason you use Flame Dash for Sirus and not Frostblink.

If it's shit you could explain why, but..... you can't.

Truly embarrassing.

but you ignored the one that shit all over your projecting about 'not being good at the game'? He is, are you?
Let's see proof.

its not even a dark souls roll, it's monster hunter

retard

Im the opposite, I hate souls games every single one of them because they're designed to trial and error punish you with bullshit hiding behind corners etc you couldn't possibly have known about
I liked the roll in here because it feels cool to dodge things and if you can guarantee every player has a dodge no matter what you can design bosses around that

How does your sceenshot refute anything I said.
retard.

They got rid of the wide variety of mobility spells - Flame Dash, Frostblink, Dash, Lightning Warp

??? you use frostblink for melee builds, flame dash for casters, and if youre poison you have to cuck out and use withering step. the types of dashes you can use in poe1 is the very definition of illusion of choice.

FUCKING FINALY HOLY SHIT BROS I HAVE POE2 SLOP SO FUCKING MUCH ITS INSANE

99.99999999% of all uses of every single mobility skill in PoE1 throughout the entire 10 years of it's existence were to cover ground and move faster, not defensive or tactical reasons. You can nitpick and erm well actually all you want but that's a fact, they were boring and part of why the game was so obnoxious at the high end.

I'm not really an authority on games I haven't and am not going to play. You shouldn't ask people to give serious explanations about shit games they don't want to play, that's silly.
However, the playerbase is a good authority on this. Sorry!

the roll functions the exact same as rolling in monster hunter where it travels the most distance at the start of the roll and diminishes towards the end, dark souls rolls are static in the distance they travel the entire time (depending on weight obviously). these are not remotely the fucking same

Chartposting is a sign of low intelligence. This includes but is not limited
to steam charts, sales figures, and steam reviews.

y-you've never killed pinnacles!

you've never done t16's!

c-c-c-c-c-campaign warrior! heheh...

Yeah, I guess I just magically got 40/40 from campaign without even noticing. God damn I'm even better than I thought I was

retard

You losted

you would know if YOU played the game. Projecting retard exposed WOW what a shocker lmao

you know im right but i laugh every time i see this video so thanks

I'm a fucking retard who doesn't know what I'm talking about but thanks for making me look like a retard

any time, dipshit

Hard cope.

So... My personal viewpoint doesn't matter, and the viewpoint of the masses doesn't matter. And that leaves only your viewpoint as correct by default, of course.
Nah, I'll just take that as the concession it actually is. You can't even argue against the notion that the game pissed off most of its players, so you duck it.
Man, that ritual thing was funny too, wasn't it?

see
Looking like option 2 here.

There's a reason you use Flame Dash for Sirus and not Frostblink.

sirus

there is literally no reason to use frostblink over flamedash and vice versa for sirus. are you sure you aren't talking about searing exarch. and even then they nerfed chain casting flamedash fucking years ago and melee characters will still just use frostblink.

PoE 2 reduced my enjoyment of PoE1 by giving me this "Is this really what I'm wasting my life on" moment of clarity that I have not been able to shake.

honestly I don't know how anyone ever played poe without wasd controls, i'll never be able to play an arpg without them from here on

nice picture of someone else's account from /poeg/ fuckwit

If that's what you need to believe.
Anyway, I'll be going 40/40 again next league and still not paying to test PoE2. Sorry, still not sorry.
Frostblink is garbo in comparison to Flame Dash for Sirus because of how often he moves and how often you need to move, Flame Dash mogs it in every way in that fight

1 charge vs 4

short range vs long range

4s cooldown unless you directly hit him with the AoE

We know, you can't afford it.

you do know that you cannot cast flame dash in quick succession right and cast speed does matter for it. literally what year are you in where you think flame dash is better on anyone but top side tree builds.

Cope in whatever way you feel necessary of course, that is your right.

you do know that you cannot cast flame dash in quick succession right and cast speed does matter for it.

Yes. It's still better.

Yes. It's still better.

it's not and i think youre the only person on the planet that thinks this

Appeal to popularity is at least an argument, and it's a relevant one if what you're most concerned with is making money. It has nothing to do with quality. In this case, most of the players are mad that there aren't one button builds or that their broken build from 0.1 got nerfed. A large portion of them are actively fighting more complex and nuanced mechanics being introduced to the game because of their conditioning from PoE1. They'll probably get their way and the quality of the game will suffer as a result.

In this case, most of the players are mad that there aren't one button builds or that their broken build from 0.1 got nerfed.

Oh no! Anyway...

*continues pressing lightning spear*

They'll probably get their way and the quality of the game will suffer as a result

GGG the company famously known for not being stubborn as fuck

I did misspeak there, I should have said "more one button builds". This gets lumped in with a variety complaint.

You losted.

One common thread I've seen with the PoE2 hate is that the vast majority of haters cannot point out specific reasons as to why they dislike it. They can't explain why X mechanic is bad, why Y decisions are harming the game, or why Z is is going in the wrong direction. Beyond that none of them have offered any advice as to what they would change, how they would do it, or what they'd like to see. You'd think that a game in an actual beta test would illicit actual feedback, but they seem to not understand the concept of a game being opened to the public while also legitimately being a work in progress.

My prevailing theory is that most of the hatred comes from people who have developed an emotional attachment to PoE and refuse to see it's long standing, current, and impending long term problems that need to be or cannot be addressed. These people are infuriated that a game that's seen a decade of updates is being let down softly and it's gameplay is being continued through a "sequel". It appears as if the number 2 itself in the title is enough to enrage them and I'm wondering if GGG took that number out and simply referred to it as PoE they would calm down and stop foaming at the mouth.

both sucky

It's not just conditioning from PoE1 either. It's also conditioning from other ARPGs in general.

Do people really believe that PoE1 is full of one button builds?

Jonathans name is also banned on the GGG site iirc

PoEfag:

I love POE, it's my favorite game :)

PoEfag (mentally ill):

NOOO YOU DON'T LOVE POE, IT CAN'T BE YOUR FAVORITE GAME BECAUSE YOU DON'T PLAY IT RIGHT REEEEEEEE

The absolute state.
No wonder nobody takes you seriously.
PoE community is on par with League and Dota 2 communities at this point, where you're automatically assumed to be a total faggot with zero social skills by normal people.
Grim.

I don't supply answers to posts like this because I don't want to end up in a conversation with a redditor.

They've substantially compromised with several 0.2 patches already. They compromised on release with a hasty 25% HP nerf to all monsters, and with a massive loot buff.

Ex-fucking-cuse me? Make the campaign actually playable with non-optimal builds

Claims a game is his favorite.

Never even completed it.

You're just a poser, simple as lil gup.

It's not just conditioning from PoE1 either. It's also conditioning from other ARPGs in general.

yeah diablo 3, people can just finally admit that they actually liked d3 the entire time.

They released 0.2 in a fucking awful state, the acts were horrendously overtuned with acts 1 and 2 being absurdly rough, the game did however open up in act 3 and from there on everything felt rather normal. Item drops sucked and that did hold people back but they did throw a few nerfs at the acts to bring things back to a respectable level.

If you are talking about 0.1 then you're insane the game was fucking easy with any build.

everyone, because poe2 is dogshit at a fundamental design level in basically every aspect and is easily more than half a decade away from being a fully developed game

can you substantiate this

name one specific thing at a fundamental design level that is wrong with PoE2

The game does not give me enough blue orbs to roll all the relevant bases for my build.

player movement speed vs the speed of the action

That's a correct aspect to PoE2 though, player speed does not need to be 400 mph like PoE1.

Thanks Looneytroon!

Yes it does.

Play HC SSF. If you are not playing it, do not complain about difficulty.

overlapping character defense systems

That's the beauty of PoE. You can design your character in multiple ways. Of course, this assumes you make your own builds, so you can appreciate this. It goes without saying that for someone to have any say in PoE, they ought to be making their own builds.

50million+ dps dogshit

Reward for grinding, apart from a couple unbalanced skills.

Because PoE2 is simplified trash for retards. At least PoE1 has a interesting character building and interesting itemization, as well as crafting.

The fundamental problem with poe2 is player power. GGG obviously resented PoE1 for big number zoomer meta. They tried to constrain poe by limiting multipliers. There's much less damage everywhere. The problem is ultimately in an arpg everything is about choices and power so you have significantly less agency, most builds are basically just preset. This is the diablofication of poe.

apart from a couple unbalanced skills

the vast majority of skills in poe1 and poe2 are unusable lmao

So you played for one day in HC and you think yourself a expert? Level 95 is achieved easily. It's 96 and especially 97 onwards that require staying power.

It does if you're killing the whole screen in one attack. It does if they want your positioning to matter. There's no repositioning or controlling a fight if you move slower than what's going on around you. For all their memes about making combat "meaningful" they've gutted the fundamental meaningful thing you can do in combat.

It's bad design and it feels like shit and they don't recognise it's a problem so PoE2 will forever be bad.

It takes a lot longer than that to reach 95 in PoE2.

This is not the case though at all. PoE2 has had more fucked up builds than PoE1 ever had since day 1.

Nearly everyone has access to slows and if you're keeping up on MS on your boots it's just a fabrication that you can't outrun most things. Especially after they blanket nerfed the speed of many fast monsters across 0.2. So they did in fact acknowledge what you were talking about, but even then, without slows, you were still faster than the majority of mobs. God forbid you run some crowd control.

I'd never go back to 1, it's garbage now due to its userbase, just like this site.

thats not a fundemental aspect

And? You might be retarded and in the wrong genre
The entire point of arpgs is not to be rollslop parryslop "wow i could die from any single hit but the boss takes 3 hours to die", the point is to scale your power and gear so that you don't die in most hits and you can kill the bosses in <30 seconds because this is the only reliable way to increase your survivability.
Fuck off back to poe2 if you like it that much, nobody else does lol
Your streamers are literally playing a private league of diablo 2 because it is more enjoyable than poe2 with better design and better loot

Yes it is. Gearing is at the heart of the game and the system is designed around spamming as many rolls as possible. I should at least be able to do that with Blue items without grinding dozens of hours.

gear progression is pretty fundamental

that said they have bigger issues than orbs not dropping like making you pick up lots of trash bases only to throw them away when you brick them and there being no like twelve affixes in the whole game (four of them are resists)

GEARING is a fundemental aspect, the rate of which you get orbs is not and can and has been getting changed, there are also other aspects of acquiring gear that does not come from orbs.

people were in tears over having to fight a mob for more than 0.01 nanosecond.

Because said mob gave no reward worthwhile.
Do you not understand the simple fucking math here?
Players want to blow up 6 screens per second because ggg are dogshit incompetent at drop rates and weighting balanace. It's that simple. The only way to get any reward is to increase the volume of monsters you kill and the speed you kill them.
The random rare that takes you 60 seconds to fight and can one shot you at any time drops the same as the rare you kill in 0.3 seconds. Make that mob drop thousands of times more loot with better weighting and you will get less complaints about having to fight monsters for longer. But you faggot retards don't want to do that lmao

there are also other aspects of acquiring gear that does not come from orbs.

and they're shit too

its easy as bro! t. Experienced PoE1 player

I played when it first came out, jumped on the crossbow guy and ran out of crossbow passives to go for so I started putting points into grenades after that and wasn't able to kill bosses by about act 3 as well as being too broke to buy/craft new gear
Fuck that I thought the whole point of poe2 was you could play it without looking up a guide, I will play again when they fix it.

yeah you shouldve just said gearing is shit instead of choosing one thing that thats related to it. ground pickups are shit in poe1 but most people wouldn't say gearing in poe1 is bad because of how easy it is to craft literally anything you want for free.

I dislike PoE2's more simplified and boring skill tree. I dislike the removal of PoE1's gem system, as the new one turned out more boring (less opportunity cost). I dislike the slower pace of the game, as it makes for a less intense game. I like the more boring itemization, especially from a SSF perspective. I also heavily dislike the, lack of, and worsening of, crafting. I dislike the removal of the flask system. I despise the removal of movement skills. It makes for a more boring and less skill expressive mapping and bossing, due to slower movement capability. In PoE1, you see someone's "skill" from a few seconds of mapping, for example Carn when he played Boneshatter. In PoE2, there is no difference between players, as there is no differing movement.

Many of these things can't be attributed to the game being in early access, as they are pure design choices for the new game. Many of these things are done out of simplification for new players, like removal of HP from skill tree. Hell, the skill tree is a perfect example of that, as GGG did their best in taking power away from it, so as to equalize new players and more experienced ones, to do away with "bad" choices players could make.

You need to do a full on combo just to deal any damage at all to basic bitch white mobs

like the more boring itemization, especially from a SSF perspective.

I dislike...

poe2 makes diablo 4 look like a masterpiece

thankfully because ggg's balancing is a mess you can just use a one button build instead

Thought you were talking about PoE1.

this literally never happens and idk why people say it so much, theres so much easy shit to dog on poe2 for but people just say this fucking bullshit so nothing will ever get fixed.

My issue is not that combos exist, its that you should only need to use them on rares

It does happen if you're shit at building and gearing, which people are.

0.2.1 is supposed to be increasing drops but we'll see how much impact the changes will actually have

One common thread I've seen with the PoE2 hate is that the vast majority of haters cannot point out specific reasons as to why they dislike it.

because they're tired of making character limit posts full of reasons to have the same retard responses every time, what do you mean?
they gave you all the reasons over and over again when it first came out. why would they continue wasting their time engaing with people who are doing so in bad faith and are cockgobbling committed fanboys?
Poe1 has plenty of problems, and I'll shit on them endlessly for it they deserve it for not fixing them when they are easily solved but they just don't want to. Poe2 has all the EXACT SAME PROBLEMS but even worse in every regard, and even more of its own new problems on top.

play as mario

play as luigi

play as yoshi

play as bowser

play as bullet bill

new stages and changes to old ones

i can assure you when the game comes out fully and people are making regular league starter builds everyone is just gonna memory hole the entire early access

I'd probably be fine with playing poe1 for another three years before I touch poe2 again

Yeah, me
I don't want to have to autistically follow a guide just to beat the campaign i want to be able to try and do it myself and they made it too hard for normal people

I will play neither dogshit game because I long realized that the only thing that was ever interesting about poe was regular updates. With those gone and so many other ARPGs getting them(Even fucking Minecrat Dungeons has seasons passes now!) I feel no need to ever reinstall poop1 and it's garbage, hypernerfed all fun out abomination.

i don't want to follow a guide

i want the game to handhold me the entire way through and tell me whats good and what isn't

you learn by failing, this happens in poe1 as well.

name one specific thing at a fundamental design level that is wrong with PoE2

movement speed (character only as monsters move 10x faster) vs map size
very easy.
map layout design was done by the most retarded person on the planet, not one single zone is well designed or enjoyable to navigate
poe1 has the same problem, but it has at least some layouts that are actually not dogshit
you want more? we can go all day, there is nothing right with the game.
every system is bad, the gem system is a flat out worse version of the poe1 system
the tree is bad and irrelevant
crafting is non existent as a system, loot is even worse than poe1
the mapping system is universally bad, spend as much time scrolling around trying to find towers then running them to set up so you can finally run <10 good maps and play the game

They will need to find something else for us to sink gold into if they don't keep the townbuilding or redesign the currency exchange.

That's a correct aspect to PoE2 though, player speed does not need to be 400 mph like PoE1.

The player speed is necessitated by the area size retard. d2 has a perfect movement speed even though it has many large areas.
The larger your areas are, the faster the player needs to move, because waddling around enormous empty fucking areas trying to find something to fight is BORING

Yeah, I agree with this. A lot of maps could be cut down in size and they could even keep the same density and it'd be fine.

they thought releasing a game that is missing 90% of the classes, skills, and weapons was not only a good idea but that they should only include the most boring fucking slow melee weapons and nothing spells, barely functional minions, (that they advertised and sold as working, only mentioned that shit and spectres were broken in a discord post lol)

all of the other classes and weapons are in the game with working animations just not enabled, they obviously don't test shit so what the fuck are they doing? lol

basically just the slow drip feed of "game" intended to siphon mtx money

t. 4k hours poe

You don't learn because you're penniless and your only option is to grind a previous act hoping for currency
I'm not that masochistic, campaigns are supposed to be fun

That shitty mod is literally balanced around 8 player streamer groups.

the rate of which you get orbs

The orb to reroll a base doesn't exist you clown have you actually played the game
Picking up 4000 of the same base (to make you buy more stash tabs) so you can 3 to 1 them endlessly because no alteration orb exists is a fundamental design failure my man
Everything about gearing is bad, which is impressive because most things about gearing in poe1 are also bad due to being balanced around some retard spreadsheet outcome for half a million players - leading to a miserable individual player experience - but somehow they made it even worse by removing every single option you had to make it marginally less dogshit

That shitty mod is literally balanced around 8 player streamer groups.

genuinely what are you talking about

They will have no impact and you know it lad. Becuase they don't want to cater to individual player experience, they want to cling to their 0.000001% spreadsheet outcome weightings
Remember these devs are so retarded that they genuinely believe catering to streamers is better than improving game design, because they think their players will keep playing whilst getting nothing if they simply see their streamer on the 2nd monitor get something good.
They are so cooked

They already buffed the loot massively, they're buffing it even more? Funny.

Never played POE1, but I did enjoy the base game of POE2. It all went to shit in the endgame though, as the game apparently revolves around teleporting across every map and instantly blowing every enemy up in 5 seconds, which my Necromancer isn't particularly good at.

That and the incremental upgrades I want to make on my build require >9000 DIV per item and I barely got 2 DIV per hour so what's the point? I don't think the devs will change equipment drop and modification options anytime soon so I won't be joining in the next season or whatever.

Play SSF.

I don't think the devs will change equipment drop and modification options anytime soon

they have been doing that this entire fucking season

everyone is playing it solo though, idk what you're talking about

I'd be playing with a +2 to level of all minion skills Sceptre 200 hours in then. That's somehow even worse.

Just checked the marketplace, the shit I need still starts at 150 DIV for each item, so it sure looks like they "fixed" the droprates.

They did. Making stuff drop more inflates prices since there's more supply of the orbs. The rich get richer.

for each item

are you trying to get perfect 6mod t1 rolls or something? poe has literally never been balanced around that

I am not touching poo1 ever again

I wouldn't say more orbs is the way to fix things, a way to properly increase rare modifiers and item drops would probably do more.

(Near-)Perfect drops go for Mirrors, so no. The problem is more that negromancer is so dependent on Spirit and it's a costly roll on any item that can even have it. This in turn leads to all resistances, item discovery, etc being crammed into even fewer remaining items, driving up their costs for decent rolls too.

man im so fucking sad
Poe 2 was such a fucking let down and its so fucking unfun to play, and its been almost year since I last played POE1 and im not even feeling it anymore. POE2 literally killed the whole fucking company for me.

Sounds like you're the problem here.

Nah, he just didn't find it fun, a valid opinion.

PoE1 killed itself. When Chris was in charge between the two years they secretly decided to split the game to when they announced they were splitting the game he basically fucked PoE1 by making no leagues go Core and what content that was brought back was fucked up to the degree it didn't actually add anything to the game - like Sanctum exists solely for a single ring and nothing else; if it wasn't for Original Sin. And they went on to fuck Breach and Legion making stones and 5ways worthless.

PoE2 didn't have to be shit to hurt PoE1 - Chris made PoE1 shit on purpose. The notion they were going to support both games was insane the moment they said it because they had made so much effort to ensure that all thee pieces of PoE1 were in their worst state ever.

but most people consider poe 1 to be in the best state it has ever been in.

Anybody playing PoE1 right now are too stupid to know what has been lost. So yes, you are correct that that is what they think.

We don't know yet but it looks like it and people have been speculating for a time.
A few leagues ago Zana left (choosing exile, in Kiracs words), presumably because she was disgusted with the Exile continuing to map even after killing Sirus (the canonical killer of the Elder who was subsequently sealed in the Atlas and driven mad)

How do you even make the likes of Crucible, Kalandra or Affliction go core without insane powercreep?
Atleast pretend like you've played the game
Sanctum is also good for raw currency, not just Original Sin.

When was the last time you saw the sun, Exile?

The REAL sun?

Been close to a year since I played PoE1 and I just don't have any interest in playing either game right now. A huge chunk of my friends are in the same position. A year is a long time, peoples lives change and they move on. They completely fucked up letting PoE1 rot for so long.

I feel sorry for the vast majority of people who don't have custom loot sounds for their drops.
You can make a song or a meme or your own voice a loot drop and it drastically changes the feel of the game. It singlehandedly kept the game fresh for me. I got to thank trannyblade for that one because it would've been impossible for me to figure that out on my own.

No they haven't, tweaking their percentages by minor amounts and not changing weightings isn't a real change no matter how much you argue. Minor tweaks to dogshit are still ultimately dogshit

See ya on launch day

Me, at least.

Play SSF.

Only retards do this who have too much time on their hands and nothing else to burn it on. SSF is the exact same game experience, no alterations, you just have to spend 10x longer doing anything because instead of being able to sell shit for divs to craft, you have to simply keep playing endlessly until you naturally get them as drops, or run sanctum (still gated behind drops to even do it) and nobody fucking likes sanctum.
Playing ssf in something like last epoch is great, because it fundamentally rebalances the game around your individual experience. GGG are too lazy and too stubborn to ever implement something as obvious as that, or to simply fix their drop rates. D2 for example you can play ssf even though there is no rebalanced ssf mode, becuase the drop rates are not irredeemable garbage to begin with and your individual player experience is pretty good, combined with much better ways of farming like eldritch than poe offers.

Even if I was going to play, which I very highly doubt, I wouldn't be touching it on launch day. I learned many years ago that league launch is consistently the worst time to play.

I boughted the POE2 early access. 20 hours and couldn't get past the first ascendency and was hardstuck on a boss halfway into Act 2. Never returned but maybe I should and just play a new character

I have over 4K hours in PoE and am still burnt out. I'll play 1 character per league at most now.

I'm still happy with PoE2 despite the rampant crashouts by retards on both sides of the balance issues, so I'll continue playing 2 and will probably stop playing 1 once the EA is over.

You can clear all game content on SSF within a week or two of playing casually if you know what you're doing. PoE1 has been a solved game for over half a decade at this point.

Ill save you a spot, see ya then bro

poop2 is bad.

but most people consider poe 1 to be in the best state it has ever been in.

This has nothing to do with the content though. Poe1 is in the best state it has been in because the atlas tree makes the game 10x better, scarabs are better than sextants, alternate skills exist etc.
That can all be true and breach can still be garbage, 5 ways can still be garbage, most of the individual league mechanics are really bad and the things they bring back are neutered to be garbage too, what that poster says is correct. Sentinels are an easy example. Great league, everyone loved it, choose your own difficulty, worthwhile rewards, other than the dogshit having to store 500 tabs of them, good.
They have brought it back since, and it's literally worthless. It is actually not worth even doing
And this is a key issue of gggs design of everything. NOTHING is worth doing because they balance it like trash. Who runs 5 ways? Basically nobody, emblems are 5c, nothing can drop from 5 ways other than timeless jewels which are wildly unprofitable and hard as fuck to price, and your build needs to already be complete to even run them efficiently.
Breach? No good drops, bad drop rates.
Deli? Garbonzo, all you get is cluster bases not a single cluster has ever dropped that is already good. Simulacrum? Not even worth farming anymore despite its insane ceiling of rng difficult.
Who the fuck runs ravaged blighted maps? Game is so unoptimized it kills your frames or just dc's you and deletes the map half the time. Then you spend 30 mins clicking chests for nothing that couldn't drop in any normal map and at the same rates as maps anyway besides one single amulet - which is bad and relies on landing a good corruption to be useful
We could go on
And most of these things require your build to already be strong before doing them, meaning the dogshit they do drop is even MORE useless

poe1 hasn't been good since 2021 and poe2 was garbage on release and only got worse. GGG is not the same company they were when poe was good.

if you know what you're doing.

Who fucking cares you retards
Such a tired worn out argument

look ben can do it in a week so you can too

Ben plays the game in a categorically unfun way, and his entire playtime is planned out in fucking advance to do it
People also do not play to "clear the content"
It's an arpg, they play to get cool drops to sell or for other characters, you clowns really think people just stop playing d2 when they beat baal or uber trist, you actually don't understand why normal people who aren't streamers and aren't making money doing it play arpgs

Based thinker
Cringe poeslopper

Best game of its class

This isn't a Titan Quest thread?

I'm gonna play PoE1 and then check out PoE2 again after another major update or two. My goal was to always play both.

The only retarded thing is charging money for an early access then pulling the rug when you see that you’ve made a small fortune off people that thing the full release will come out soon, like most other games.

I can't go back to PoE1 for lack of WASD.

Have been enjoying Last Epoch, for a change.

The person complained about getting to the high end of gear, not having upgrades to go for and getting bored. SSF solves that, since you'll be hunting for upgrades for much longer.

no it actually sucks. it has more in common with diablo 3 and 4 than poe1

I get the itch to play but it all goes away when I remember how miserable the trading experience is.

it's unironically easier to farm and gear a build in poe 1 than it is in diablo 4.

When I reached the point of farming to do uber stuff I just got bored, make the endgame fun if you want people to play it.

It's all been downhill since Archnemesis.
Most of the old team devs left after their contractually obligated time at GGG post-tencent-dale.
Reminder that tencent has been slowly assuming full control over GGG. They've had majority stake for many years now.

'poch won

It's the other way around
I never want to return to 1

The tencent boogeyman doesn't work here. The company & game are in the state they're in because of decisions they made.

I take a build. Do all the content, make a character that can juice maps and then stop playing. I'm usually done in about a month or two. If I played trade, that would be done in like 2 weeks. You're just shit at the game.

the 3 people that retired or quit.
one was on the board of directors and hasn't touched poe 1 since talisman league.
one made 90% of the 1c unique items.
and one was one of the lead game designers on poe 2.
considering the complaints, people should be happy that they are gone.

Those 1c uniques are only 1c now because there was so much bloat.
The defacto best boot leveling is seven league step that is only worth 50c at most and before that was introduced there were several leveling unique boots that could be used interchangeably.

It's truly breathtaking how GGG fucked everything in record time. This new league looks like shit just from the teaser alone, almost like it was rushed out because POE2 is floundering and 1.0 isn't even possible this year. So now they have two games that nobody likes. Great job.

You retards will never be happy and keep projecting your own misery onto this consumerist product. This is the reason the sentiment to just shut down PoE 1 to get rid of all you whinging emotional faggots from the community is gaining traction.

I hope GGG shuts down KEK.

kek

ofc its some blizznigger.

gaining traction

In your dreams maybe.

Just wait for the announcement, you miserable faggots will find something to nitpick and endlessly complain about, it will seal the deal.

Of course it will.
You give those windmills what for, anon.

My bad, I'll speak in your local dialect.
"Bing chilling."

became a speedtranny to own the left

was it worth it?

PoE is a chinese asset btw.