Super Mario Sunshine

What did it get wrong

adding a (bad) narrative
basically ruined performing marios ever since

Blue coins
No Luigi
Shadow Mario missions required to fight the final boss
Swimming feels worse than 64

Pretty much everything besides the setting. Easily the worst 3D Mario game.

The other 20%, what the fuck they were thinking.

It's a weird game with weird levels and weird controls.
I still like it since I'm a bit of a sucker for 3d marios.

ugly washed out graphics
gaybob intro cutscenes too long
coins
fludd
largest transgender speedrunning community

it was one of the best mario games so nothing. it had the coolest atmosphere, ost, and puzzles. the harbor with bloop was cool, especially the wakeboard minigame. i can't fathom hating the game without being completely soulless.

The movement feels like shit, fludd made it worse

Why are shines worthless?
I mean you get some unlocks up to what, 24 shines? And then all that matters is clearing episode 7? So why the fuck would I ever do anything else when the "reward" for getting blue coin shines and basically any other shine is a jpg?
And boy don't get me started on blue coins

it's the best 3d wahoo after odyssey, but the worst to 100% because blue coins.

The requirements to beat the game.
70 stars in Mario 64 meant every star had equal value and contributed to your goal.

Beating episode 7 in every stage being the requirement means every

Episode 8

100 coin

Secret

Delfino Plaza

Blue Coin

Shine has literally 0 value beyond the climb up to 30 or so to get both nozzles in the plaza which you would get easily by playing the game anyway.

Overhaul the blue coins (make tracking easier, not have to save after each one, make it clear if any are tied to certain episodes, etc.)
Not tie the Shadow Mario chases to unlock the final level
Have Mt. Corona be a full level like the others with its own episodes (doesnt all have to be a lava obstacle course)
Those are the major things. I think its a great game overall.

Shine specific Blue coins were a bad idea
Replacing the "get 70 stars to beat the game" with "beat this one star in every level" wasn't great either
Needed another world or 2
otherwise its pretty much perfect.

Blue coins, some janky segments, and the fact that it's not as fun as 64. Its weird that 64 us the only mario game that lets you do melee attacks as mario

The recompiled PC port will fix it and make it run better than ever

Super Mario Sunburn fixes the blue coins and 100 coins btw

a bit too "vanilla+" for me, all I really want is the blue coins fix, widescreen, and 60fps minimum

Undercooked and full of filler. Play the romhacks that remove the stupid bullshit from it and it's much more enjoyable.

Obnoxious story and cutscenes
Being rushed meaning it lacks a bit of content and polish
Questionable design decisions like the blue coins

Nothing, I loved it.

We play Eclipse here, sir.

hey let's completely change the physics engine for this one shine

Watching Mario's trial is mandatory

What is wrong with Miyamoto

Early attempt at cinematic experience and probably got them cringe so hard afterwards, they avoid any kind of story in Mario games. Koizumi had to insert Rosalina's lore in secret but it got promptly deleted in Galaxy 2.

27 posts

none of them mention long jump

Holy zoomer

Isn't that mod all new levels?

Is it worth playing? I like super mario 64

so Mario is on vacation on an island

>ok

and then when he lands he gets wrongfully accused of terrorism and ends up in jail

later as a punishment he becomes the Mayor's Butler

I understand wanting a story but why that? And was the trial scene necessary? Why is delfino a democratic island? Why do they have a courthouse and a jail? Were there pianta homicides?

That's why they probably cringed so hard and swore never again.

I honestly dpn't mind the blue coins or the harder stages. It really is just how some shines are required and others are pointless.
I booted up an old save where I beat the main game and doing all the extra shines and blue coins was fun. I tried playing it from the beginning again after and it just felt like a slog.

Sometimes I think about what the game would be like if it wasn't rushed. They could've implemented all those NPC sidequests from the beta and added more proper Shines instead of blue coins

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at yet it's a much more interesting story than any modern mario shit

He didn't add it in secret you retarded fuck he showed it to Miyamoto before he added it in. God I hate you arlofags

Every stage has at least one of those levels that you just hate

It has a lot of platforming sequences but its controls aren't good for platforming.
A lot of missions are tedious busywork.
Some shines are mandatory, all the others do nothing, so you can't ignore the shit missions and focus on the fun ones like you could in Mario 64.

Adds new levels onto the existing game and connects them, allowing travel between them without having to return to the Plaza.

Fludd was fucking awful, the best parts of sunshine are the platforming parts without it

Does it rework or remove base game shines or just add new ones?

Just adds, I think. But you can get most of them continuously without being kicked out.

People bitch about FLUDD but never explain why they think it sucks, they just get upset that its there at all.

the only issue is how slippery some platforms are.

They just forgot to program fun levels into the game

240 total shines

damn yeah okay I guess I'll play it over sunburn. I still haven't played Decades Later which has 333(!)

It's the best mayrio though.

Just needed more levels and less linear progression

This. The only worse one is galaxy and galaxy dues tbdesu.

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This is the edgy contrarian board, you can't like things unless other people hate it. Thems the rules when you're an autistic incel faggot with nothing better to do on the internet.