The last real DOOM

describing Doom 2 as dark, atmospheric, or horror

ishiggydig

bad game is good and good game is bad

Wow if you listened to this retard board you'd think spread is literally the only thing important for a shotgun, which means nothing in a game where your two feet away from enemies at all times. But let me show you using a shotgun from 10 feet away to expose how bad it is and not that i just dont know how to play.

Reminder, this is Anon Babble's favorite fps.

b-but you're just playing baaad you're trying to uhhh snipe with it duuurr

Amazing, oh the irony.

better than 4 and 5 is at least

is at least

not in slight sars!

Reminder, Quake 1 is this boards favorite fps. And the shotgun in that game takes 6 shots minimum to kill even the weakest enemeis.

b-but just switch to the other weapons and do this and thaaat

Oh wow, but you have to play Doom 3 using the shotgun from 10 feet away and never switch to any of the 9 other weapons at any point in your playthrough do you? Amazing. Let that make sense.

LOOK MOM I POSTED IT TODAY ASWELL

What's the irony? Whoever playes there plays like ass.

Doom 3 is such a bad game it outsold doom1 and 2.

id's big mistake was removing autoaim from the doom formula.

the last real doom was doom 2.
doom 3 is practically a completely different genre.

Most mid-wit take ITT.

And killed the franchise for over a decade.

It has awful spread, inexplicably reloads 2 rounds at a time with the world's stiffest looking animations, and looks like a hideous fucking blob the entire time it's doing it.

Yeah, it works if you perform colonsocpies with it but, but that didn't make it fun to use. At all. The entire time I used this piece of garbage, I was wishing I had Half-Life 2's SPAS-12 instead: and that thing was wholly mediocre.

being a midwit

Worst shotgun in the history of mankind

This whole board and site is just bots remaking threads and bots reposting the same images and replies, why am I even still on here.

Old ones are good because of wads

So they're good because you can play games that are not Doom on them?

You know, an actual, unironically dark atmospheric horror kino DOOM already exists, but somehow gets always memoryholled by you zoomzooms.

I think you are the midwit as the evidence is pretty clear;

doom 1

has autoaim which provides perfect balance for weapons within level constraints

doom 2

has autoaim which further enhances the gaming experience on the larger maps and expanded enemy roster

doom 3

no autoaim, weapons have ridiculous spread, weapon balance totally fucked

doom 2016

no autoaim, weapon balance is still fucked, game is basically a melee cutscene simulator

doom eternal

no autoaim making the larger scale battle arenas rng fest at long range

doom dark ages

no auto aim and now you don't even need to shoot! Just parry back the slooooooow moving enemy projectiles

Given Anon Babble is quote clear 3 - dark ages are games for shitters and the common factor between them is no autoaim.

But you still have to look at the direction of the enemy. Vampire Survivors solved this problem. All Doom games are shit.

Yes. Old vanilla DOOMs aged like milk. I grew up on Quake 3, UT and Half-Life btw.
It's crazy how the leaked build has vertical aim but they removed that in the final build.

t. didn't play it till the bethesda re-release

Given Anon Babble is quote clear 3 - dark ages are games for shitters and the common factor between them is no autoaim-

and a bad hud
and slower combat
and lamer inclusions than in say, Legacy of Rust
and gameplay segments far removed from their base gameplay (which applies to nearly all of nu-doom starting with 3).
Auto-aim is by far the last thing I think of or care about, because if I had vertical aiming and HAD to aim in Doom I and II, I'd still think the gameplay was great. Of all the things that objectively make nu-Doom less Doom, I don't think "aiming at enemies more accurately".

It's Nightdive, not Bethesda.

yes they all suck

It's literally impossible to have a thread here that isn't full of people who just come to announce that they do not like the thing.

t. didn't play it till the Nightdive re-release

top kino

I'm glad to see that the DS2/Oblivion contrarian community has started scraping the bottom of the barrel for black sheep to defend.
Hopefully you guys move on to Deus Ex: Invisible War one day.

theres nothing contrarian about it doom 3 btfos the other dooms easily

Anon Babble has already had threads proving that invisible war is better than HR and MD.

lucky shots or easy mode, i can never kill anything at that range

That's exactly what makes it fun to use you fucking npc

It's almost like if OP claimed something that isn't true.

there is nothing wrong with liking a critically panned, poor user reviewed underselling game that killed the franchise for 12 years

He is saying that it is the best Doom. You're saying that all Doom games suck. WHat the fuck.

I didn't say that, take meds. I said old DOOMS (1-2-64) aged like milk. 3 was always considered bad. 2016 is good because it's fast and close to Quake speed. Something that requires skill.

2016 isn't even fast and you dislike Eternal for being fast.

Dark.

Atmospheric.

HORROR.

enemy sneakily spawns behind you

enemy jumps at you from a door you just opened

repeat for like 8 hours

You have to be a pussy to be scared of this.
The constant laughable "evil laugh" that plays every 30 seconds doesn't help

2016 is actually faster than Shiternal, but faggots fall for tricks that make them think it is fast. Shiternal's default "run" speed is half of 2016's, and the dash only makes you as fast as 2016's movement for a brief moment, but it uses camera effects/speed lines to make it seem faster. Also Shiternal has every enemy always charging the player to close within a short distance as long as there is a path, and that pressure makes players feel like everything is faster as a result; 2016 had many enemies that would keep their distance and not try to close with the player unless line of sight was broken, which "feels" slower in comparison.

Shiternal is actually a slower game. But like the faggots who thought the motorcycle was faster in Gotham Knights, Shiternal fans don't realize they've been played for fools.

Anon Babble shitskins truly have the lowest IQ on the internet, thank god you fags have no influence on the industry

OUR BOY HAS SPOKEN

2016 is actually faster than Eternal

i hate phoneposters so goddamn much

agree
without carmack or romero or adrian or bobby, it's not doom
nu doom is the gay reddit version

reinstalling doom 3

For the critics of doom 3 who say it's not a doom game.
Doom the dark ages is just halo within the doom universe.
But it doesn't seem to bother them because they are not actual gamers but marketers.

Both are gay.

2016 had a dark atmosphere horror atmosphere too

Doom 3 and 2016 are the best doom games

Could be, but criticising an entry for not being an original addition to the series while completely overlooking how far from the original the newest entry has strayed because of money is sus af.

Where's my warthog and banshee? Why can I not pickup enemy weapons? Grenades? Why can I carry more than 2 of them? Where is the multiplayer? Regenerating shield? Allied soldiers? High jump? ...

yeah but unlike doom 3 2016 had fun gameplay

you have to say shit is stinky if you criticize pee-pee!

you're retarded.

And doom 3 doesn't? lol

phone

lmao

brutal doom is the only good doom game

nope
it plays like shit
the 93 game aged less badly and has more smooth gameplay

The two best Doom games.

It plays great. You're retarded.

Tried replaying this recently and while it was alright it was so repetitive I quit halfway through. It's too long. The midsection is just the same environment stretching on for ages.

im gonna play it ONE MORE TIME after im done with my replay of eternal and my free playthrough of dark ages

2016 is the beginning of Doom Guy becoming the horror monster. The horror element is much reduced because Doom Guy is basically Mr. X from Resident Evil 2.

project plutonia did that 25 years ago

Did it? I never finished the Final Doom wads but I didn't remember any significant narrative. NuDoom goes out of its way to present Doom Guy as the horror the monsters try to survive. I like the tonal shift because it makes sense.

I have a leaked screenshot of Doom 4

at the end of it doomguy decides to stay at hell to make sure they never invade again
thats the plop of 64

le bad game is le gigachad

fuck off shartnigger

He hasn't played the PSX version of Doom, which includes all of DOOM 1 and 2

ISHYGDDT

RAGE is the best IDSoftware game though. It’s Carmack’s masterpiece.

Unironically, there should be a sequel for this.
This time the main theme should rip off Tool-Pneuma

Wait, that isn't common knowledge?

Cry harder faggot LMAO

Poorfag seething... Figures

phoneposting is for poorfags, every jeet and latinx 12 year old has a smartphone and uses it to post here

It's just embarrassing at this point.
youtube.com/watch?v=j1B7fOaAdH8

Poorfag projecting beaner seething....
Figures.

Correct.

It's not only not Doom
But FEAR did everything it tried to do way better

Both are good games and there is no reason to put one down to make the other one look better.

Yes there is, Doom 3 did not deserve the Doom moniker

Zoom eternal and zoom the dark ages stray even farther away from doom's formula but that doesn't seem to annoy you for some reason.

That's just false though, you may not like either but they are much closer to Doom than 3 ever was

Blatantly incorrect. Nu-Doom doesn’t have a single monster closet.

If you prefer the gameplay of Nu-Zoom over Doom 3 you are legitimately retarded

Look, I get that you grew up with Doom 3 but you like it for nostalgia, nothing more

maybe not the best one but sure I like it more than the dark ages shit.
and I think DA is a good game, but the lore fuck it all.
I can't stand the SLAYA. is just edgy captain america. lore is marvel shit tier.
As an old man, I don't find this interesting. thing is I don't thing young people will find it interesting neither, so I don't know what kind of manchild is the audience target for the dark ages.

atmosphere

also, why did they get rid of all the satanic stuff? it seems like demons are just there, hell is some kind of world that exists just for the SLAYA to fuck it up. no inverted crosses, schuls, corpses... best hell is doom 3 hell, but even the classic doom I and II hells are better than 2016/eternal. it's just mars with fire.

its funny cause doom 3 was controversial on release with people crying about the lack of flashlight on guns being unfair and too scary.

Little babies want lights everywhere because fighting demons in a hellish dimension, the game's overarching plot across all of its entries, is to scary for them.

I played them all for the first time when eternal came out, 3 is the best one

Erm sweety we don't call them demons, they are mortally challenged.

that was a joke and it fits the game, but now demons aren't spawns from hell were souls of the sinners are tortured. they are just "fire aliens" like the faggot boss of DA.
I guess the jews putting money on this game didn't like their god being insulted and shooted with a BFG

Did people forget that no one liked Doom 3 when it came out? People complained that it was too much horror and not enough action

Yes, I do love DOOM64, the last real DOOM