Marketplace Obscur 33

I was led to believe this game was some amazing piece of art where the creator had a strong vision and went through hell to make it a reality, digging deeper I've found that:

he didn't even know what the story was going to be, he found the writer from Reddit who came up with this story

90% of the game's assets/scripts were bought from marketplace

when you're standing on the edge of a cliff looking at those ocean waves clashing around and that breathtaking vista and sky, all of the things you're seeing are stock assets bought from the marketplace

the whole battle system is built on top of a JRPG battle template, things like climbing walls via the hooks that you can grab is also a marketplace script because they couldn't be bothered to even do that

And people wonder why no one considers games as a serious art form. Imagine if you went to see a movie and the whole movie was just a collection of clips from other movies spliced together.

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make solo guitar music

It's ass

Join a band and make music together

Amazing

I dont see the issue

Lol didn't read. Maelle has the best ass in the game. Also, just cleared tower of bullshit. I guess that leaves me with wall of bullshit next.

If it looks fine, no one cares if it's stock art or not. The entire hgame genre is built upon the same reused assets, there's people that will get an erection when they hear stock rpg maker tunes.

Why did you initially believe that? You seem to be a retard.

90% of the game's assets/scripts were bought from marketplace

stock assets bought from the marketplace

Such as?

It's actually perfect

Wait until this faggot learns he is made of four letters.

this is how she should look, cannonically

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Too plain. I like my wives to dressup with implied eroticism. I want the white uniform mixed with microbikini.

Wow it must have been very easy to make. Surely OP can make one too

It’s definitely very ‘HIRE THIS MAN’ looking. But whatever, the importance of C33 is that there’s officially a market for AA games mow. Which means artistically or computer-tism inclined competitors can enter the fray and produce real AA kinos

Cope and seethe

Imagine if you went to see a movie and the whole movie was just a collection of clips from other movies spliced together.

You just described Inland Empire and there are people who would argue it's Lynch's best.

Dont forget the trash cans dont render the shadow in the angle the sun really does, and the wood texture isnt from real wood is for imitation wood. Goooosh why this game cant be good I just want a game with gravel particles instead of generic silica whyyy god whyyy? Is ruined, fuck this. 0/10.

People like this really exist...

Retarded analogy

I think it would be faster to list out what assets aren't from the marketplace: youtube.com/watch?v=mEYKF1fCL24

been out for a month and Anon Babble is still seething

I only came here to seethe about Simon.
Fuck that cunt.
That will be all.

Are you mad they used stock assets instead of AI?

The plot also seems to have been borrowed from another game

Christ the more I read about this game the more I hate it
I played it for about 2 hours before I just put it down in disgust
Yeah, let me walk down some hallways in a jank turn based RPG where every monster tries to fake me out like dark souls
All the characters look and act like mannequins because that's essentially what they are right? Store bought assets just put out on display?
I can't believe it.
Well... I can, but I don't want to.
This is ridiculous.

Why do people force themselves to play games they obviously won't like? You could see from the trailers this was going to be FFVII with parry.

I downloaded the modpack that someone linked yesterday, but this outfit wasn't inside of it.
That or it was a combination of the mods that work together somehow? I'm not sure how to make it work.

Least organic thread on v

Damn.
The more I keep reading these the more I want to get back into it.

time to watch the biggest bimbo/normie play this game.

TTV.berticuss

let me walk down some hallways in a jank turn based RPG

Confirmed for not playing the game

All the characters look and act like mannequins because that's essentially what they are right?

As opposed to which videogame, you retarded casual?

Why do people force themselves to play games they obviously won't like?

that anon clearly didnt play the game, possibly a paid shill. there are people who are actually paid to complain about games they never played

According to OP, all games should be this good, because all games have access to the same assets.
Why are AAA games garbage compared to this then?

OP brought out the shills

game is bad cuz it was made in a way that I didn't approve!!!!!

developer uses assets

Game actually gets finished

developer sets out to make everything themselves

Game never gets released

Assets are a good thing. The problem is that they're associated with bad games but they're not inherently bad themselves. More AAA games should cut costs by reusing shit.

Language all reuses assets (words)

Music reuses assets (music notes)

video games aren't allowed to reuse assets doe

KCD already proved AA games can be good. The hype for KCD2 was pretty high

Incels shilling KCD2 for years and then it having a gay protag and black character more educated than any of the cast was pretty funny

Well I know where to get UUE, but I'm not sure how that makes the mod work together.
I got this, but I'm not sure where the other parts(files?) are.

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Soulless mod

acceptable

AA games have been a thing for a while.
It's just hard to tell them apart from AAA now.

I would honestly be too distracted with naked Maelle with her Leon the Assassin haircut and spill my spaghetti in every fight

I'm pretty sure it's a mix of the pure outfit and microbikini. The expedition nude files affect the pure outfit too since it's just a different color palette.

And people wonder why no one considers games as a serious art form. Imagine if you went to see a movie and the whole movie was just a collection of clips from other movies spliced together.

stupid equivalence, clip are the film, the actual equivalent would be actors that are reused , vfx that that are reused too, camera , green screen etc ....
You are retarded, this obsession with having to recreate every single asset every time you make a game is some AAA brainrot.

Kys Nintendo India

125 IQ analogy, well done

I've tried extracting the micro bikini files in with (Partially Clothed Addon - Expedition - Exposed - Main File Required).
It stays the same, so I'm not sure how to mix the two together.

a game must be completely built from scratch with all original assets and scripts and a brand new in house engine in order to qualify as a masterpiece

It's actually really stupid. There are assets that people would probably universally say are good and could improve a ton of 2D games. Like personally I think if Terraria assets were open source it would make a lot more games look more visually appealing.

Hmm, not sure then. I never used UUU and I play on a steam deck.

That is absolutely how the game plays in the first couple hours. It opens up a little more later on, but I was pretty surprised just how much of a corridor simulator it was when I first played it.

France game

No PoC worship

Refund

I hope sandfall's next game is more tailored to the modern audience

if they 'bought assets off marketplace' doesnt that mean, by definition, that they are NOT stock assets? idk, i dont pretend to know these game journo terms

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Almost every environment in the game is just a visually revolting soup of assets strewn about. I think that's a big part of what irritates me about the game. I love interesting or beautiful worlds in my vidya and E33 just doesn't deliver at all.

That is absolutely how the game plays in the first couple hours.

You took 2 hours to cross the first level, The Meadows?

Settle down tendie it'll be on switch 2 so go suck your pacifier till then oks

OP is a faggot and FPBP as always.

Probably. Looking at most full playthroughs on youtube, it seems it takes most people at least an hour and a half to get past that point in the game and I was going pretty slow.

Imagine if you went to see a movie and the whole movie was just a collection of clips from other movies spliced together.

Sooo a Tarantino film?

HOLY SHIT.
yeah the buildings are from the "colonial" asset pack. but it's more than that. it really is everything. every asset is marketplace slop.
they just fucking slapped this shit together from other peoples assets.
this games should be $10 at most. it's the most 'hire this man' shit I've ever seen.

Are you retarded? lazy bait, go on a diet

this games should be $10 at most

I still can't afford it

Words and notes are the ingredients that form "assets" such as stories/poems/songs. The ingredients for video games are lines of code and polygons. What I'm trying to say is that you're a dumb.

The ingredients for a word is a letter thoughbeit
The ingredient for a musical note is a soundwave

Creatividad

The music and gameplay are worth the $40.

It's one of the greatest games ever made. I'm afraid your homosexuality has led you astray, OP.

Now for my first trick, I will make one of ze greatest games of all time. En garde!

Seethe harder, JR Piggies.

makes a good game

anon complains because he didn't do it all himself based off your own assumptions

this is why games aren't high art, do you even care that people aren't displaying videogames in empty show halls just so they can eat cheese and drink wine while standing around and commenting on the genius of depression quest or gone home?

There are only a dozen different music notes, how do you make music without "reusing" these? What are you even trying to say?

The asset issue is the biggest standout to me. Everything just feels really cheap. I hate UE5 slop.

how do you make music without "reusing" these?

That is how you make music actually

no replies from the anon disputing this

Oh no no no no no no lmao

I refunded it and cracked it in steam emu anyway, because it's not a well made game. it's super jank with fuzzy visuals, lots of bugs and poor quality animations.
But now that I find out they didn't even make 90% of the assets, I'm outraged they were selling this piece of shit asset flip for as much as it is.

if you didn't have to make 90% of the assets, then you should have been able to at least fix the numerous visual and technical problems and create better animations.
but instead it's just lazy low quality work all around.

stock assets are bad because?

The visual direction is a big draw of this game, now it turns out they didn't even make any of those visuals, you see the problem here? Why does this game even cost money?

midwit nepo baby launches the biggest shill campaign of all time for his mid jrpg

easily impressed zoomer retards on /veddit/ fall for it hook line and sinker

reminds of when MGS came out, and even those games are masterpieces compared to this slop

Beyond retarded, as we expect op to be.

The craziest part is that it supposedly took them around 6 years to make.

-They're in 1000 other shitty asset flips.
-It's a sign of lazyness and zero artistic integrity
-You are charging money for work you didn't do
-The art direction can not be unique
Now we know why the game doesn't look like a painting. So they could fill it with shitty generic assets.

You are charging money for work you didn't do

Literally every company in existence

pedobros, the doorbell rang

Has there EVER been a game this shilled here?

yes this is nothing compared to the Anon Babbleiral days, newfag.

How catastrophic will the meltdown be when it sweeps awards?

You dumb motherfucker. Literally every movie made in the last 50 years utilizes similar things; reusing sets, reusing Foley (sound effects) from giant sound libraries, reusing music from giant libraries, reusing stock establishing shots, etc.

I love how we went from "omg this was made by only 30 people, why are AAA studios so lazy?!" to "w-w-who c-cares if it is a blatant asset flip!".

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In many ways movies reuse assets when they film at the same locations

Kojima pepe

the company owns the dev studio who specifically made these special asset for this project

vs

the company just bought a bunch of generic shit that 1000s of other people have used. and lied about it.

see the difference.

Trannies are still seething a month after the best game released in the last 20 years came out

When it gets everything at the game awards you are going to kill yourself aren't you?

damn, it's like you don't need to pay 600 pajeets to make 6000 polygons assets to make a great game, they should tell bethesda

Yeah well the studio owns the assets because they bought them so. And that makes the asset makers part of their team in a sense.

who do you think is making and selling these asset packs?

Trannies

Nah, it's the same non vidya playing permanently seething brown phoneposting retards that are the majority of the board.

see the difference.

yeah, it's only okay when certain "people" do it

back in the day all jrpgs used nearly the same pixelated environments and characters and the games were great

I love it when dumbass whine about this
In every interview about the development of the game, they explained they start with stock asset since it was affordable and when the project gained traction and hired more people, they restart from scratch

No it doesn't. asset shit has no value.
As an indie dev the idea of using asset packs instead of my own art makes me sick and violated all my principals and standards.
It really gives you an idea of the mindset of the people who use this shit. these people do not have passion or integrity.
They're the same as that fucking guy making OOT in unreal engine.

Yeah your Deviantart is great keep it up. Definitely don't use the art packs for your AA game to make back its money.

You're making a good point OP; that for all of that, it's totally enough. You don't need more and no amount of curtain-pulling will change that.

Shut up retard

your indie game used paid assets

it's better than AAA games

but it's NOT FAIR!!!!

Is this the argument? If anyone can buy these assets, then why aren't all games this good? Why are AAA games worse than this?

Why? E33 couldn't even get the attack prompts to sync up with the animations.
Legend of dragoon is real frame data. like an action game. it actually has BETTER offensive combat than the cheap QTE garbage in E33.

the things that matter, like the characters, are not in assets packs

Everything matters in a world you create.

This is not true btw.

bro, who cares what type of paint Picasso used?

he's french

Imagine if you went to see a movie and the whole movie was just a collection of clips from other movies spliced together.

A very popular parodic French film from 1993, "La Classe Americaine", did literally just this.

if he's apparently rich why diddn't he get a better keyboard

Who cares if Picasso printed Mona Lisa and glued it on a canvas, by your logic Picasso made Mona Lisa now.

(the classy american?)
and I'm sure it was shit. the ' teenage girl making a youtube AMV' of it's time.

he hired someone to write three lines of code in his otherwise "solo" passion project

You didn't make the game

Picasso would probably approve of cutting up and moving Mona Lisa around

He honestly looks like a douche. Someone that does things that upset people on purpose.

Paint/brush are the tools to create paintings, for a video game the tools would be stuff like a 3D modeling software or Photoshop, the point is that the devs didn't need tools because they took someone elses models/textures. A painter who doesn't need paint/brush isn't a painter.

get a gamepass trial when it's 1 buck

The game devs never pretended to be 3D artists. They pretended to be game devs. They took parts and made something that is greater than the sum of its parts. Continue seething.

Literally everyday i see a new different type of anti- expedition narrative being pushed and it literally never sticks.
Its already been a month since release and people are still talking about so it feels like you faggots are desperate to have something against it since its not longer a FOTM game

Also comparing stock assets to the Mona Lisa is a turn I didn't expect

How dare you take credit for that

As an indie dev

show me energy games you've made or even contributed to.

what*

The game devs never pretended to be 3D artists. They pretended to be game devs.

They do have prop and environmental artists though

I can tell youre a no dev/ a shitty dev because actual indie devs who release games still use market place assets and are capable or understanding when to use them.

They pretended to be game devs

which requires
an artist
a programmer
a musician
or someone who is all 3 like yours truly.
but imagine if I just bought all my assets or generate them with AI? how could I live with being such a faggot?
how would I pretend my product had value and call myself a game dev.

And none of which is critical to be present for the function of the game, as evidenced here. In theory, you could contract out an entire game's worth of assets.
Go ahead and do that. If you can create the strongest GOTY contender for the year, all the more power to you

I can tell you are not game dev and know nothing
-Most indie artists create unique art direction and market place assets are unusabel and wont work with the style.
-Skilled programmers will make will optimise things and crate their own systems that market place assets will mostly clash with and just create more work than creating your own optimized assets for your own systems.

OP thinks all games were made by a single person

John Nintendo

he put gestral volleyball & platforming minigames in because he knew they were shit given the limited movement animations & frames. so you're not far off.

Who knew the secret to game success was BWC all along

i'm not giving views to your video, nigger
post the asset list here or fuck off

Join a band.

more like sit back and press play on your laptop while another bands music plays.
barely play anything yourself apart from some off key, poorly timed dead notes.

I roll my eyes whenever the wilhelm scream is used in something new. That horse is beyond beaten at this point.

There's literally nothing wrong with using stock assets.

knee jerk edgy and angry "i'm not giving you views!" response

You need to go back, here you go though:
Ancient Treasures
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Seaside docks
fab.com/listings/7bf637e6...
Ultra volumetrics
fab.com/listings/edddcd05...
Fabric collection
fab.com/listings/9459d4f5...
Fluid Ninja
fab.com/sellers/Andras ...
Kitbash 3d Colonial
kitbash3d.com/products/coloni...
Medieval marketplace
kitbash3d.com/products/mediev...
PhotoR Background
fab.com/listings/273e2e99...
Advanced Locomotion System
fab.com/listings/ef9651a4...

They will deliberately ignore Exp33

Looks like one of the men who are used at deferring to women.

has an idea about an epic fantasy adventure game

random woman comes in

"hm this is like really cliche and male-power-fantasy like. We should make it a metaphor for depression actually"

"Wow, you're a genius, you're our new lead writer now!"

I've just dropped it today. Game was getting boring with every enemy spamming long combos and bullshit feints and I just kind of lost the mood to play Simon says every single encounter. This and game crashing two times already after a boss fight that consists of 3 stages. They haven't even amanged to put a save in-between boss stages, so every time this piece of shit Unreal slop crashes you're forced to start from the last le soulslop bonfire. I'm writing this and feel that I'm hating this game much more than it deserves (mostly because I hate any attempt at putting souls-inspired crap into anything that is not a genuine Souls game) but the constant shilling here just makes me more mad.

Paying someone money to create assets for your game

Vs paying someone money to create assets for your game

But one version is bad

Really looking for any reason you can to hate on this game, huh.

you're forced to start from the last le soulslop bonfire

You haven't played it.

And 6 months later the entire game is a pastel walking sim with a ukulele soundtrack and a baking minigame where you "process your trauma." The original protagonist is now a metaphorical forest spirit struggling with emotional labor. Studio drops the gritty adventure trailer from early dev as "an outdated vision" and gets nominated by Polygon for “Best Emotional Narrative.”

I see marketing department is on fire today. How's that has anything to do with lack of unique hand-made assets with chromatic aberration slapped on top for good measure?

If a game uses the marketplace for: gameplay/combat, animations, inventory system, premade puzzles, even settings options on the menu. It will be soulless trash, no way around it.
Not saying is the case with expedition 33, but many "indie" games do that nowadays.

knee jerk edgy and angry "akshually, you aren't allowed to like this game, chud!" thread

And then, after some push back:

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lol?

You're a dumb idiot if you're protecting it so badly and avoid the objective truth. But okay, sure, it's not souls bonfire, let's call it Final Fantasy XIII checkpoints because most of the levels are as linear as any FFXIII level before you reach the world map. The same boring linear navigation, the same janky hook scaling and jumping, nothing in-between but few towns with NPCs. It's bad. It's just bad.

ukulele soundtrack

kek

There is no bigger increased of soul than having to work around limitations

Ever since power became "unlimited" AAA devs have become lazy, complacent "a who cares, we have 32 gb of ram" mindset

Meanwhile most of all the best games had to work with absolute shite hardware and that meant developers truly had to delve deep into their knowledge and skills to make something functioning.

This team basically made a game with a pack of assets, a rag tag team of developer noobs and very good music

why are you playing on a goddamn potato yuck

I think people forget that "pre made assets" are not only visual stuffs like models or VFXs, which is worst, you can tell when the "devs" did jack shit for the game and just played legos with the marketplace.

Trannies hate the game, go on and on how problematic the game is and how effeminate, trans-coded men NEED to be part of these games

chuds promote it and sing its praises

when did E:33 become the CHUD game of choice?

There are no checkpoints, retard. Try actually playing the game for once.

% of the game's assets/scripts were bought from marketplace
source? this is actually impressive if they managed to make store assets not look shit

when did E:33 become the CHUD game of choice?

when the creators started to give ACTUAL NAZIS interviews....

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You hit invisible trigger boxes and the game auto-saves, how is that not a checkpoint?

You hit invisible trigger boxes and the game auto-saves

And when you win a fight. And when you change your pictos. It auto-saves constantly and always puts you right before the fight, you're never forced back to the flags like in Souls games.

e33 fans are amazingly stupid

ITT: losers who've never worked a day in their life or achieved anything but thinks they are superior to others.

see kiddo, in the real world of grown ups, nobody cares if you made your hammer and nails yourself or bought them at the store, what people care about is if you can use those tools to make a good wall/roof or not.

pastel walking sim with a ukulele soundtrack

man, i'm making this ukulele song for my game, but the more i hear it, the more it makes me think of corpo approved music for advertising campaigns

that's not a real thread ,you retard

and you are an amazingly retarded seething loser

A lot of assets in modern AAA games are stolen from real life, understandably. My problem with E33 isn't the efficient way it was made but the art direction including environment art isn't very appealing. Blurry messy unreal nightmare

“You don’t get it you NEED to waste three years designing rocks and trees!”

the painter must make his own paint, canvas and brushes or he didn't really paint anything

You've got some really high standards. Lmao.

game engine maker makes a market place where artists can sell their assets to game devs

game devs buy said assets

losers on Anon Babble get mad

???
bad day at school?

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Not the same, it will be buying a house and saying "I made this with my own hands, this is my creation".
Still is not the same, a game is an artistic creation in it's core. A house isn't.

If you:

bought pre-made planks

didn't chisel each paving stone yourself

didn't create bathroom tiles yourself

You didn't build your house.

he didn't even know

But that's not true.

90% of the game's assets

But that's not true.

when you're standing on the

But that's not true.

the whole battle system is built on top

But that's not true either.

What's wrong with you OP?

Still is not the same, a game is an artistic creation in it's core. A house isn't.

you are a complete retard and you don't know anything about art.
one of the first thing you learn about art is that transforming or reusing stuff is just as valid as creating from scratch.
pic very related

Assets are a good thing. The problem is that they're associated with bad games but they're not inherently bad themselves. More AAA games should cut costs by reusing shit.

Of course. Movie studios reuse sets and props from other projects all the time and nobody bats an eye. As long as it's not too obvious, it doesn't matter.

I only noticed when opening game files

So... it's nothing? CAPCOM, Nintendo, Rockstar, SquareEnix, Fromsoftware use stole assets and nobody cares, the moment a sucessful game uses marketplace assets smartly jeets lose their mind.

one of the first thing you learn about art is that transforming or reusing stuff is just as valid as creating from scratch.

This.

when did E:33 become the CHUD game of choice?

has always been, the amount of troons that ABSOLUTLY HATE IT is another unmissable sign, they just seethe towards anything even remotely chud related or liked

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Looks like you're a nigger.

God I fucking hate ragebait trash

NO!NO! IT'S NOT REAL! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!

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it literally isn't
arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/709067689/#709087463
this was called out from the very first time this was posted but people overlooked it because for some reason this dude want's to spread this specific narrative

if it's so easy OP, why don't you make a best-selling game with a 30 man team

where is the marketplace for sexy skimpy clothes for maelle?

the art direction including environment art isn't very appealing. Blurry messy unreal nightmare

this

why is everything brown and desaturated

I'm too busy complaining about things I don't like or care about to actually go and do things I like.

the art direction including environment art isn't very appealing.

bruh that's just absolute bullshit.

And despite all these shortcuts plus terrible character models everyone still loves the game.
A testament to how a strong vision trumps over having 5000 jeets model every blade of grass for 5 years.

Ice Nevron in a corner around the land where Monoco's station is. Dude resist every element and attacks the ground with a spear, then makes it explode for more damage

Screenshitting doesnt pickup on the HDR mod

I enjoyed the game but was confused about the story after act 2. Can someone explain what is going on outside of the canvas? Aline goes into the canvas to be with what remains of Verso's soul but she refuses to leave and loses her mind? Renoir and Clea want to get her back into reality but Aline is too strong in the painting so real Renoir puts the machinations in place to have her killed by the expeditioners which brings her back to reality or something? I feel like I need to play the game again to understand things revealed earlier on with more context now.

You posted the best example possible. In a game if you are using assets in excess you are not using tools or parts to make new thing, like the pic you posted.
You are just buying the final product and reposting it.
As I said before, I don't care that much about using models or textures, visual stuff. I think the worst is when fake devs use combat/gameplay templates, pre made puzzles, pre made inventory system, pre made animations, even settings options/menu. There are a shitload of games like that.

you can tell when the "devs" did jack shit for the game and just played legos with the marketplace.

They made a game. There's a reason people don't go on steam to buy 50$ of asset packs: it's not fun, it's not interesting, there is no point to it. It becomes something playable when someone turn the inert matter into a game, hence their job title of game dev.

Next, you dumb fucks will tell me I should never use a library at work and remake every feature ever built.

Anyone else sick of the tranny chud dichotomy? It feels as dated as "epic bacon ftw" already.

sir, i think you are lost
you're posting in the designated shitposting thread

If you didn't write an xlsx file opening library from scratch, you didn't complete the project. If you used any plotting library instead of writing your own vulkan-based implementation from scratch, you didn't complete the project.

everyone is a loser
but you can be either a far-left-wing loser
or a far-right-wing loser

People Sample Music all the time and copy riffs and themes from other bands.

Listen to starway to heaven by led zeppelin then listen to Taurus by Spirit.

I don't know what to tell you, OP. Maybe vidya is not for you