Now that the dust has settled

Why'd it fail?

Redditification, see pic rel

Headache inducing fever dream of a story.
Parry slop rhythm game
Girlboss.
Shit weapons
Levels are a slog and too long.

It was boring and unremarkable.
An excellent textbook example of how trying to pander to everyone creates a product without flavor.

Because it's not Doom.

pander to everyone

so a redditification.

What is "Doom"?

It didn't, it's an excellent game. Much, much better than Eternal.

Pander to everyone except nobody in Anon Babble.

While most of Anon Babble genuinely hate videogames, there are still a few anons who like the hobby and have their particular preferences when it comes to games.
TDA couldn't even create a product that appealed to those few anons.

I liked 2016 even when it was way too much like a modern shooter.
Dropped Eternal after a few hours (even when I paid full price for it) because I hated how it was more of a puzzle game than a shooter.

Didn't bother with The Dark Ages which sounds like Eternal but more obnoxious.

its just not good

also after finishing it i decided to replay some levels, and without secret hunting i was so fucking disappointed that you can beat the levels in like 15 minutes, it seems crazy short if you dont engage with all the time padding crap

and after playing at 140% speed for nightmare for my first playthrough i cant go back to 100%, it feels like it plays in slow motions, weapons take for ever to switch and enemy bullets just stand in place, no idea why its so slow compared to eternal, even at 150% its slower than eternal, but animations already start breaking

just wait to parry, the game

thats mostly bosses and big enemies
cosmic baron is the worst here since it just moves in your face and you have to keep blocking, later when you unlock the max mace you can just 1 hit kill him, but for 75% of the game the parry attack shit gets way too repetetive

Too expensive and series fatigue

I hope they leave Doom alone for at least a decade

I liked it

People say gameplay but casuals dont give a fuck about how a game plays
The reason is the theming and marketing angle, it does not work at all to make a Doom game and put a medieval theme on it, normalfags dont like that

There's not a single game that can't be described with meme slop terms and every game is bad in your head if you so choose. Even the original Doom games which are widely considered as great games and technological marvels can easily be described as irredeemable junk if that is the image you wish to paint.

This, the people want spaceships not lord of the rings in their Doom.
The game being "parryslop" or whatever is irrelevant for sales

What is "Doom"?

1,2, 64, 3, and 2016.

So 2086?

I think the shield by itself did the most damage, even if its super fun to use in the game people have expectations for things. its like giving superman a gun, no one is going to watch that.

NOOOOO GAMES HAVE TO MAKE THEIR MONEY BACK IN ONE WEEK!!!!!!!

Too slow

Changed the formula

Entire game devolves into parry slop

Too many cutscenes

Music is absolute garbage and might as well be non-existent

Too easy, even on higher difficulties

Forced gaytracing, limiting reach on PC

I went through it and platinumed it. 6/10.

you don't make your money back if the majority of players are on gamepass you retard

if your game is on gamepass you dont have to make your money back because MS footed the bill already

bethesda is owned by microsoft...

Worked out great for HiFi Rush.

Yes, everyone knows that. Retard.

Nobody asked or wanted this shit.

I refuse to believe that 10+% of the entire steam userbase owns an rtx 4060.

2016 fag, it's way better than Eternal.

everyone hates the maurader in Eternal

make the endboss in TAG2 a big maurader and everyone hates it

examine this data

make an entire game that removes everything good about eternal (music, movement, aesthetics, light story) and fill it with "do nothing and react to green flashes" enemies like the maurader

Actually insane this did this.

Except Microsoft is going to want that money back. Do you think M$ is just in the habit of spending hundreds of millions of dollars on a game's development and going, "Hey, don't worry about making that money back."?

People want escalation and there was nothing to climb higher after Eternal.
The bullet hell idea was interesting but it should've been dealt with mobility and verticality, NOT standing still and shiteing, I mean, parrying.

it unironically insists upon itself

2016 was perfect for that, Eternal started to get a little bit up it's own ass, and Dark ages really made itself super gay with how much it jerks off John Doom

It’s an unholy mixture of nudoom with old doom appealing to no one

Don't even get me started on the less than inspired mech and dragon sections. They are absolute vapic, vacuous insertions in the game.
They aren't challenging, they don't require thinking, they don't allow for player expression.
On-rail. Press button. That is all you can do.

Their attempting at WOW SCALE WOW EPIC in the Cthlhu boss fight shows, nay, SCREAMS that they don't know what worked in 2016 and Eternal. A shame.

And kicking Mick Gordon? I could do with the game being absolute trash if it meant I'd get another Doom album from Gordon. But the way they handled the problem THEMSELVES created assured that I will never buy another id product again.

Every one that bought and liked The Fag Ages is very high on the spectrum of what they thought would appease their consumer base: absolute retards.

ahrzhack

argent dnur energy

night sentinel girlboss vikings

khan makers

Cthulhu shit

it's all rubbish, the only lore doom ever needed was a shotgun and some kind of demon/monster to shoot that's it.

10 hour games aren't worth $70-$80

i'm just glad it wasn't quake they ruined like they obviously intended to at some point

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as someone who prefers renaissance fantasy over sci-fi they failed to add me to their audience when they kept automatic firearms in their "dark ages" game
I'm sure sci-fi fags felt the same way when they saw the shield and flail

Baby do hurt me

What the hell

Is this a mod for enemy ai

Hurt me plenty

Finished at 150% and then cancelled xbox lame ass

chad headcrab

I'm enjoying it.

they added the mech and dragon sections because the absolute lowest tier of knuckle dragging retards got upset when they played eternal and couldn't mount the dragons and mechs in that game

it is insane how bad the dragon sections are

Too much gay shit that isnt just killing demons. The story sucks, the mech and dragon parts are awful. The parrying slow moving green fireballs is stupid. Everything else is still fun. I actually like the addition of the shield. The shield bash move is never not enjoyable.

Real FPS fans wanted more Eternal, however idSoftware were scared to face their own masterpiece, frightened to tackle their own legacy, and chose to try something different over something the harder path.

Plus this isn't an indie studio - Bethesda wants more mass appeal, not a hardcore diehard cult fanbase that Eternal part 2 would have been for. The more broad appeal and AAA style game design means its not really worth upgrading my rig just to play this one game. The 150% game speed footage from people like Sylar looks pretty fun, but ultimately the game is more limiting than Eternal is, it can never reach the same height in gameplay.

I didn't want more Eternal, and I love that game. It was clear by that last batch of master levels that they squeezed all they could out of that style of game.

Gamepass. Unsustainable business model.

I don't get the hate it's getting here. I'm enjoying myself with it. Played old Doom and 2016, haven't played eternal. I also haven't had anything actually keep my attention in the past six months besides this and Intravenous I and II.

I lost my shit laughing whenever this ass hole shows up. Hes just so fucking dorky looking and not a threatening villain om the slightest.

2 hours of cutscenes

gay robots

gay dragons

gay unrealistic guns I wanted simple UAC guns

gay prophecy shit

music is BAAAAD, like legit AI generated

its sucks played it on gaypass and its all gay shit, venti threads are less gayer

he is cool, pinhead vibe

Naw, he just looks like a guy wearing a halloween store devil costume.

How could they have squeezed all they could out of Eternal's style of gameplay when all of Ultrakill was born from its template? Sure the master levels were running out of ideas, but thats because they were stuck with the same weapons and the same mobs.

What Eternal needed most was to be redesigned from ground up with air combat in mind, which isSoftware had never fully realized was going to be so prevalent when they first put together the enemy roster. Its the reason every modded encounter in Eternal needs 5 pain elementals, and one of them has to be possessed; because there is no other mobs in the game that can do anything to you in the air.

Eternal was a good base, its influence on the FPS has been so monumental that it might be as well to say there is pre and post-Eternal FPS eras now. However, it was just the beginning, there is still so much more that could have been done.

lol no and does not fit Doom at all