It's shit
OFF REMASTER
HIRE. FANS.
Toby has the Midas Touch. He can elevate anyone's works to Godhood with zero effort whatsoever.
Nobody cares about this shit but me but it still pisses me off
Toby would NEVER let someone do something like this, that's not like him! He's too humble!
If the guy who asked about that sincere deceit fangame drama is still here in a nutshell the dev's egirl tried to cancel IV for making the new fangame so in response he pulled up screenshots of "le deep emotional abuse!!!" she did to him
More like the mid touch lmao gottem
didn't work too great for Little Town Hero, did it?
andrew andrew hussie is that you
but not a polished one. these are tools associated with amateurs
These are some meaningless arguments. There's no such thing as a "polished" artist, and it doesn't matter what tools you use. If you know your shit, you know your tools, and you can make something great with them.
he uses them to this day, it's his "stye."
And it's working for him, so there's nothing wrong with the tools or the style. Even RPG Maker is popular to this day because it's not the tools that make something fun.
reminder that toby fox is a fraud and a hack.
That was me, and I honestly don't know what I expected. Getting yourself involved with a girl online, let alone one from Tumblr, is practically begging to ruin your life. Game gets a little more respect from me though if he was legitimately trying to defend NEW. Maybe I'll actually try playing it again.
Kino fangame moments
Another Undertale-like
Indie devs are creatively bankrupt.
Fuck this shitty remake, play the forgotten dreams version
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off literally started this "genre" undertale is a off-like
Everhood 1 and 2 was better than deltarune
2
Hell no.
Yes it was
Everhood [...] 2
lol
lmao even
Nah
The music is quite enjoyable
I listened to the music and it ripped off Undertale
I’m more upset about the Mixels on the rain versus the rest of the world
Can’t play a single modern pixel game without them apparently
the music is more miss than hit and doesnt even sync to the gameplay half the time
What fangame is this?
NEW:DF
Another anon said it best, this isn't a game for people that enjoyed the original OFF, it's a moneygrab designed to gage the interest of Toby's retarded fanbase by forcing references of himself.
Too difficult for poor indie devs to internally render their game at a consistent low resolution s'il vous plaît comprenez
‘mori won
I played Everhood 1 and 2 last month and found them very enjoyable.
Tried Deltarune this week and it was cringe as fuck.
Nobody cares about undertale gameplay or art. Its about the character and the vague lore left with an unresolved conflict
What the fuck did they do to Pepper Steak
CO:OMER
I'm really tired to actually care anymore. Constant threads with same people saying same shit, knowing everyone here are simply on bandwagon till some shit like Deltarune comes out. Realisation of this makes it quite pointless in participating in this thread, nothing new will be said.
Same shit on other sites but it takes opposite stance, completely retarded and slurping of whatever there is. But same shit, same bandwagon.
Maybe I'll just go play ChronoTrigger or rewatch Paprika.
MORE UNDERTALE REFERENCES!!!!
PUT UNDERTALE IN EVERYTHING
Who are you quoting?
Cuz only zone 0 and 1 has been released and we dont know the full damage of the ost yet but we already got an idea more or less what kind of music we can expect in the other zones and the endgame.
Toby fox wasnt the ideal person to compose for this game. His music isbtoo upbeat, it doesnt capture the pessimistic atmosphere of OFF
Zoomers and Redditors coping with the whole Dopefish replacement controversy by claiming that Mortis Ghost or some Fangamer employee did it without Toby's consent
Opinions on the new game over song compared to the old one?
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That's dumb. I don't see why people think Toby wouldn't have just done it with Mortis' permission
Only OFF fangame I had play was HOME and it was a solid "ok" from me. Got more or less what I expected from it.
the rest (except for new) is just weird tumblr fanfiction, good for a laugh but nothing else
They're both pretty good, but find the new one a little more annoying than the last one, it's a little too all over the place
I think the new one ruins the atmosphere but is a good song
Plenty think that, they just think ill of toby for it.
I think people might have gotten a little too motifbrained and forgotten that a composer almost always sounds like their own work
There is no simple and vague similarity, it quite literally is Bonetrousle. There's no sugarcoating it.
There's no way toby did that dedan theme and not think those few notes sounded a bit too much like bonetrousle.
Papyrus literally is based off of Dedan??? The Bonetrousle motif makes sense here?
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i would have preferred this guy as the battle theme composer
Dedan's theme should contain a reference because Toby is a hack
Should we remake Metroid 1 and put a bunch of recent metroidvania songs on it?
If a famous metroidvania artist did work for the Metroid 1 remake and put a Hollow Knight reference in one (1) song I would go "heh cool" and move on
Ben Weinman composed/wrote both Dillinger Escape Plan's 43% Burnt and Jeffree Star's Miss Boombox.
inb4 "I don't know what those are."
Go listen to both and get back to me.
That's like putting the motif for Conker's Bad Fur Day's title screen into a remake for Alien.
Castlevania should use the Binding of Isaac boss theme! It totally makes sense you guise!!!
If remaster is shit then post link to the original
almost all the thread is whining about the deltatroon faggot
so what is the real issue with this? not gonna bother with it but i'd like to see what the "dealbreaker" is
he made a reference to his own work and that is literally criminal
game's original atmosphere is raped
what about the rest of the game? or is that the only complain you guys got
Deltarune and Off are completely different in tone and Mortis Ghost's art style went from emo scribble kino to Cartoon Network 2014.
The rest of the game is fine but I hope the changes are more extensive later. The battle system really needs to get fixed if they're removing autobattle.
Wait, they remastered the game, but didn't fix the assfuck combat?
Yes
Dopefish easter egg is replaced with Toby's fursona
Dedan's new battle music is just Bonetrousle.
Also the rest of the music is unfitting, but that's not entirely exclusive to Toby.
What an entire decade of nonstop worship and dicksucking does to a man
it's a bad remake, sadly. all the tobywank crap is just corn on the turd.
Dont forget how some of the edgier dialogue got censored, dedan no longer calls you a retard etc
It annoys me how the overworlds weren't remastered despite being a Unity remake and not an Rpgmaker 2003 one. The sprites in the original were easily the worst part of the game, could've used a touchup.
Disingenuous analogy. You're ignoring that.
the reference is tonally off from the mood intended by the music
the connection being made wasn't exactly to toby's credit, Papyrus was only a Dedan ripoff because Toby was being uncreative
Why does Dedan's theme deserve to reference that someone initially made a cheap ripoff?
Rest of the game literally isn't released yet. You're also getting "the only complain" from a post that was already disingenuously downplaying things.
If anything they made it worse by not letting you skip it via autobattle.
SHIT
SOMEONE HELP ME
I WAS WATCHING TIKTOKS WHILE PLAYING AND I GOT LOST
I'M STUCK
WHERE DO I GO???
esc
OH
PHEW...Thank god!
Toby WARPED the OFFtroons for being such annoying faggots on Anon Babble for all these years.
people are mad the game isn't 1:1 with the original even though the original is still free.
to be fair that might be a dubism?
edgier dialogue got censored, dedan no longer calls you a retard etc
what the fuck
FUCK toby fox
FUCK toby fox
toby only did the music? he has nothing to do with the translation? get mad at the people translating the game for this at least.
blame the faggy tumblr trannylation that fangamer used, toby only did shit remixes
toby doesn't know how to draw. is it his fault that artists love drawing undertale characters?
people are mad the game isn't 1:1 with the original
Another disingenuous answer. Shit like just shows they really didn't care.
how is it disingenuous? I never said you weren't valid in being upset, but the original game is still out, and the changes that you dislike are clearly communicated in the demo. If it's not up to your expectations (which is fine) then you don't have to buy it.
Toby deepthroaters please leave I don’t like being reminded of how many Anon Babble users are furries
localizer trannies arent restricted to jap games
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I never got around to playing this. It's RPGMaker right? Can it run on Windows 10 if I use EasyRPG or whatever?
It's not an rpgmaker game anymore it's made in unity
I mean the original, not playing remake slop.
then you don't have to buy it
Yeah no shit. But you can also think little of them for making such a cashgrab and the tobywankery involved.
Laughing at all the dicksuckers online taking all this personally and getting offended on Toby Fox's behalf like he's their best friend, lmao
Yeah it's rpgmaker
FUCK toby fox
Toby composed the boss themes you idiot if you want to blame the real person who did the censored dialogue shit just blame Fangamer since they were the one who did this crap.
Fuck fangamer for ruining OFF with a shitty remake and fuck Toby Fox for shitting up Dedan's theme
Wow looks like no one in this thread actually gives a shit what a waste.
The original is RPG Maker and it runs natively on Windows 10, you don't need EasyRPG.
Secret Annoying Dog bossfight in full game
Secret Annoying Dog projectiles and NPCs in full game
Secret Annoying Dog ghost easter egg
Honky Cracker never played Yumi Nikki and it shows.
I mean he's composed a lot of songs for different games to be fair....
I don't remember that color scheme, did they also change the colors?
there should be a disability mode where hitting esc just fucking beats the puzzles for you and gives you a big red arrow that tells you where to go
what's the appeal? played the demo and so far it just feels like an edgelord's wet dream
the appeal is baiting fans of the original into consooming
No Dopefish
BATTLE TIME screens just copy/pasted instead of being actually adjusted
Worse Music
Toby slapping UNDERTALE motifs into the game because he just can't fucking help himself.
Deep down I always knew this """remake""" was going to be a Fangamer Slopjob. Same with the rereleases of IB, Yume Nikkii, LISA.
I genuinely don't understand retards in these threads lambasting Alias Conrad Coldwood for not wanting to sign his music away. If anything at this point it has ensured that there will always be an original untainted one.
OFF is meant to be a small indie RPGMaker ride. The moment you charge $30 for it people are going to wonder what the fuck were all the hardcore fans see in it.
Id argue ib remake was pretty good and faithful to the original doe,
Lisa was good, the superboss and campfire convos were way more important to the game's quality than the tiny changes they made.
OFF remake isn't great but it's not as bad as everyone's saying it is.
the fanbase of this game is so fake. lol.
Same with the rereleases of IB, Yume Nikkii, LISA.
Oh, so those were made by Fangamer too? I didn't know that. I never played LISA, but I decided against playing the remakes of Ib and Yume Nikki because I just don't feel like they need a remake. If I want to play the games, I'll just play the original.
Biggest problem with OFF's remake is the music blows in comparison to the original's.
They are not bad songs per se but they just don't work at all with the game.
My biggest issue is trying to ask 40 bucks for a 4 hour long rpgmaker game on switch lmao.
i think the biggest problem is that they didn't improve the battle system -- the original game had a glaring flaw and they failed to fix it. the music being worse is a shame, but i've already played the original so it at least gave me a reason to play it -- something new.
Are the elements still broken? Iirc the forgotten dreams version fixed them.
Why are you all so anti-art?
Worse Music
Toby slapping UNDERTALE motifs into the game because he just can't fucking help himself.
The music issue isn't a big one since all you need to do is just wait for someone to make a mod that can replace the new soundtracks with the old ones.
The OST was already getting stripped from the remaster before Toby was brought in to make the replacement. Toby didn't make any sprites or do anything besides provide songs.
The "remaster" is shittily done and unneeded to begin with, but pointing at Toby as the cause of the problem while craddling the precious baby Mortis as a helpless bystander is just being retarded for no reason.
We care about the game's original artistic vision therefore we are anti art, amazing
The Lisa remake felt very weird to me, the super boss feels like it’s trying way too hard to be deep and the new joyful ending with the gigantic mother Mary for some reason?
They also got rid of references to cigarettes and drugs iirc despite the dark themes of the game
Toby is not the problem, but he really didn't have to put Bonetrousle into Dedan's theme
honestly the problem isn't bonetrousle the problem is that the theme fucking sucks. if it was 1 second of bonetrousle at the start of a great theme it'd be fine, but this is some of the worst music he's ever written. its utter slop.
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oh no no non o
Bonetrousle is definitely part of the problem, even 1 second of it is too much in this context. But yes, the song is also pretty weak in general.
why do the undertail cliffs and trees clearly look more detailed than gargoyle quest's
why did they even replace the music
was it a "ooooh artist is a pedophile we must erase him at all costs"
even bethesda did a bether job with obliv
The composer didnt want to sign the contract because he didnt want the music to be copyrighted
it sounds like someone's first attempt at an "undertale x off" remix that gets 500 views and lukewarm reception.
silvagunner would upload it under the name "OFF - Fake Orchestra (Beta Version)"
Will the righteous anti Toby Fox sentiment ever make it out of Anon Babble and to the general public, or does his fanbase of quirkyqueer teens and the adults that grew up with Undertale make him untouchable?
the righteous anti-toby fox sentiment has 6 days before it gets blown out by all the dicksucking that happens whenever new chapters come out
silvagunner would upload it under the name "OFF - Fake Orchestra (Beta Version)"
This is exactly what I was thinking.
ACC just expected OFF to be some free niche game. He doesn't want to be ass-raped by record companies demanding cash over samples of 90+ year old songs nor does he want the people he'd work with to add all his songs to Content-ID bullshit (which happened to Toby Fox at some point).
...just release the music under a CC0 license then? It'll effectively be public domain.
Also all works of art are automatically subject to copyright unless you intentionally include a very open license, you don't "declare" copyright like patents or trademarks, so his music is already copyrighted from the moment he composed it, he just doesn't enforce it
The problem is the various samples used for the OST, those are copyrighted.
ACC doesn't give a shit whether you use his songs for whatever you want
three paragraphs of euphemism for "i can't stand jews and jewish tricks"
so based
The "remaster" is shittily done and unneeded to begin with
OFF is the only game I know that could benefit from a remake. The atmosphere is perfect but the gameplay is a mess. Battles are slow and almost impossible to lose, and there's tons of them. There's so much room for improvement.
This one looks bad though
quite literally obsessed
didnt off come out before undertale???
Toby needs a tard wrangler to keep him from injecting his specific brand of autism into whatever he works on that isn’t Undertale related
Yes.
Same as the retards calling it "earthbound inspired" when that game hadn't even been translated to French when OFF was released