Square Enix status?
Square Enix status?
Why would Square care ?
"No one wants to spend time selecting commands from a menu anymore, especially the younger gamers"
33 sell 3.3 m in33 days
Enjoy your freemason game
Thank God I am not part of this psycho movement.
Not caring?
square is getting ready to announce 6 million FF16 copies sold for it's anniversary on june 22. With Ultimania finally getting an english release date, and an update to the game.
D:
bwos... should I b scare?
Buck broken and sissy hypnotized
utterly humiliated and spat upon
Squareenix are wearing the gimp suit as we speak
You should be afraid if you buy their "game". But I didn't buy it. Therefore, I did not make a pact with any demons.
Dead game has the same 2 posters non stop trying to keep it alive
lmfao
Square status is selling many times more with their non turn based games. LMFAO
Shattered.
you shills realize that square doesn't give two squirts of piss about clair obscur right? they're drowning in money, a monolith compared to this indie studio.
MY PENUS HAS 7 MILLION SALES (on gamepass)
The damage control you people go through to "defend" a 4000 employee company that can't churn out a game to beat a, your words, "indie studio" with 30 people must be exhausting. Why do you think this entire board shits on SE?
We did A because we love B
AHAHAH IT PROVES A IS BETTER THAN B, OWNED
Why are retards like this
We're watching you
If you think that 30 people made the number 33 sell 3.3 million, it was completed on the 33rd. You would definitely need more than 4000 people to do this.
Well done. Almost to FFXVI week one sales. Of course that is with a 20 dollar discount.
Rebirth may have sold worse than 2 million
fuck
like metaphor expedition 33 threads will be about square Enix and sales
I hate it
I've no love for square, fren. just stating facts. like, I haven't even played the game so I have no opinion on it, but don't accuse me of defending square.
it's just, I get the image in my head of a bunch of ants celebrating their retrieval of a crumb that fell off some giant's plate when I see you motherfuckers trying to act smug about this game.
Square status is selling many times more with their non turn based games. LMFAO
souce?
XVI hasn't sold 3m yet. It shipped 3m and we never got an update again.
Oh yeah, I'm sure breaking out the FF7 remake, their most iconic and popular IP by far, and having the latest entry sell less than E33 must feel great for them.
Ff7 came 15 years too late and 3 games released in 10 years plus ps5 exclusivity was never a good idea
At most they can expect slow sales every year when they release the full trilogy
3.3
disappointing sales
FFVII remake, 7 million in sales.
souce?
you shills realize that square doesn't give two squirts of piss about clair obscur right? they're drowning in money, a monolith compared to this indie studio.
They cared when Nintendo released Breath of the Wilds and Tears of the Kingdom.
They cared when Blue Protocol (at the time before it's shutdown and chink resurrection) was threatening to take their player base and they were "closely watching"
They cared when they pushed back the date of a patch because a new game was releasing (forgot which one)
SE most certainly cares when a game coming out may be a threat to their profits
Basically SE sold a ton of copies to retailers, but no one wanted do buy the game
The most recent data on sales is like 3.5 million on march 2025. And it sold 3 million week one? Imagine being dumb enough to believe that.
It sold more than their recent Final Fantasy games, that is just embarrassing.
FFVII remake released on PS4 and didn't limit itself to exclusivity until the bait n switch Yuffie DLC to get more people on the PS5
How many motherfucking threads are we gonna have about ? I counted 4 on the catalog. Jesus christ
Panic is definitely ensuing in Final Fantasy VII's development team, this literally who new IP that openly cashing on old RPG mechanics and themes Square did before has officially surpassed Rebirth both in critical and sales metrics.
The third game in the Final Fantasy VII remake anthology has a lot to prove now.
outsold rebirth in a month
Lol
Lmao
Yeah, for the competition.
Players.
33
This is not the Assassin's Creed Shadows thread.
False, the 3.3 doesn't include gamepass
Notice how it says SALES, not players
Rebirthfags anally shattered.
Not on pc
Still a trilogy
I don't care a lot about turn based but the written in Square Enix games is atrocious.
*censored*
You know what's by far the funniest shit? It's on gamepass..... Like 3.3 MILLION copies sold on a relatively small budget AND it's on the gamepass. That means they got MS-stacks on top of the money they made from sales alone. So instead of tanking their sales, they had greats sales AND COPIES SOLD.
This is by far the biggest one, assassin's creed and oblivion etc, it's always about "players" never copies sold. Because it's on gamepass and everyone who paid the 10 bucks has access to the game. Literally 1 click and a 5minute play and it's being counted as a player playing the game. With Expedition 33 it's 3.3 sold copies. They most likely have 15 million players or smt like that if you do that.
Square enix stock is literally up 50% over the past 6 months (52% YTD)
I highly doubt they give a shit about your forced rivalry on a mongolian finger painting board
Holowhore = Square Enix
Wrestlechad = Sandfall
Fuck the french.
Will never support.
Buck broken
This whole game is a metaphor for video games addiciton btw
Did final fantasy 16 ever pass 3 million copies sold (shipped)? Or did square just stop reporting it's sales figures?
the FF7 remake was supposed to be their “break glass in case of emergency” and it sold less than this game that shadow dropped with a fraction of the budget
trvke
what is happening here?
they should have released the FF7 remake back in 2007 for the 10th anniversary on the ps3. Talking about striking while the iron is ice fucking cold
So who should buy FF when SE declares bankruptcy?
SE most certainly cares when a game coming out may be a threat to their profits
When's the last time squeenix even made a profit? They even managed to ruin FFXIV recently which just a few years ago no one would have thought possible.
Ok, post surnames of the company owners.
PS3 wouldn't be able to handle a FF7 remake in actual 3D. It would've had to have been what fans wanted--more like the old game 'remastered' with higher resolution graphics and models. Rather than what the developers wanted, which was PS5 tier game graphics and a bloated, overlong mess that had to be 3 games instead of 1.
You're all Commies, aren't you.
somehow SE is seething at some shilled game with false hype and sales.
anon, they're too occupied fixing their games so it releases in the only system that actually matters now.
Square Enix status?
Very good, turn troon.
Isn't Switch 2 basically PS4? Why didn't they just do it on PS4?
260 likes in 9 hours, clearly no one cares
I've always wondered what's stopping a company from just lying about this.
It's not like this is the movie industry where these numbers come from third party distributors, you just kinda have to take the devs at face value that what they're saying is true.
yep, and i think i will go out tonight and enjoy real life methinks
Still not playing your faggot game bro
Nostalgia is a powerful thing. I despised both FF13 and FF15 when they first came out but I’m looking back at 13 fondly and I fear im starting to come around on 15. Why are our brains like this
Sold more than Rebirth
Sold more than 16
LMAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
This is too comical. WTF happened bro!
Seeing this disingenuous fag's constant humiliation ritual brings me great comfort
Read between the lines. They announced 3.3 million sales 33 days after release.
They're just playing into the meme. They have obviously sold way way more than that.
yes, gematsu xwitbucks is what actually shows what people cares or want
retard
9h tweet vs 2h
ogey faggot
but I’m looking back at 13 fondly and I fear im starting to come around on 15.
Kill yourself
Why are our brains like this
As a doctor I can confirm your condition can be adequately treated with .40 S&W
despite all their problems, they're actually pretty enjoyable games. The mass hate also can change how we envision something at the time, so that's why we tend to start to appreciate even stuff we disliked in the past.
if freemasons keep making games like this, they might be based after all.
SquareEnix humilliation is finally complete.
Feels good!
Keep it in one thread, holy shit.
game with a small western fanbase vs game with hundreds of paid shills
ok
turnfags celebrating over a milestone that Final Fantasy games achieve in a single day on a single platform
How sad.
Amusing, but very sad.
anally gaped
Is she okay?
competition?
Sold less than E33
He somehow thinks this is a win.
KEK.
what competition?
Both these games had things they did fairly well. As time passes, it gets easier to forget the flaws of the entire package, and to rememberspecifics that let you have a decent time with the game.
Kiwawa getting humped.
we've shipped and digitally sold 3M copies
why not say
we've physically and digitally sold 3M copies
??
"shipped" means nothing
it's another roleplaying game to choose from and considering its success people might gravitate towards it over Final Fantasy
1996-2024
snoys would scream non stop for Sony to buy SE.
2025
snoys want SE to die and want Sony to buy Sandfall
Because nobody tracks sell through.
33 days is the same time period as 1 day
I always knew that turnfags were mentally retarded cultists, but holy shit.
Therefore, I did not make a pact with any demons.
what are you, a fuckin atheist?
But it counts for E33?
Cultist.
implying westerns and casuals graphic whores actually cares about final fantasy or any other real jrpg
kek
Are turn-based cultists even self aware?
I mean, you can even like SE games and E33 as well. This is not some kind of competition.
new IP doing better than over saturated stand alone
people are burned out of waiting for the big boys to deliver.
Outsold by RDR2 just this year alone. So much for AA $50 games outdoing AAA.
This was back when Square Enix tricked retards into buying 1/5 of a remake-sequel. It didn't work so good for Rebirth
RESETERA WE HAVE TO SAVE FINAL FANTASY NOOOOOOOOOO
I did but then I played this and it was far better than Square's last 15 years of releases
Why are you people always trying to start shit for no reason? Both FF7 Rebirth and Expedition 33 are good.
>snoys want SE to die and want Sony to buy Sandfall
broche has stated he's against expanding the studio "to make line go up" & things work well with the current team size. i hope this principle also applies to getting bought out of competition by a large corpo. i believe they will stay independent.
Because Rebirth spent a fucking year shitting on literally every game that came out.
yoshitpiss should just retire
I dont see anyone shitting on other games, just claiming "rebirth is goty"
meanwhile, exp33tards and metafloppers unrelentlessly try to undermine other games and rebirth.
The third game in the Final Fantasy VII remake anthology has a lot to prove now.
That shit is going to be on the Switch 2 and PC day one. They can't afford to let the 3rd part of the trilogy die on Sony platforms like the first two games did.
The retailers don't report back to game companies regarding the sales of their games.
The only kind of tracking you get is when they ask for more so you ship it to them.
Not that any of this even matters cause the number of retailers selling new games is probably infinitesimal compared to their digital sales.
screenshot includes boogeyman nameposting
Definitely not the work of some weird schizo eh?
Yeah, good luck getting people to buy the final part of a trilogy without getting the other two.
Sequels always go on a downwards trend.
you must not have played many SE games these years.
It took them a month to sell what FF16 sold in a week. Why are people pretending this is a burn to Square Enix?
Imagine claiming this after SE haters shit up every single Final Fantasy Rebirth thread with their vitriol.
They've already announced Remake for Switch 2 and that Rebirth is coming later. Are you fucking stupid?
the best thing they could do in that regard is to offer heavy discounts on the first 2 if you buy the third
Because Square Enix is a spent force.All they can do is mine stuff from 30 years ago (final fantasy 8 remake would take 15 years to create lmao) and produce games about nigger women.
All of the Old Guard are dying and that's a good thing.
Their latest mainline backfired bigly after they spent years marketing their 100% action DMC clone.
First they'd have to accept that the audience for SE games isn't on the PS5 and that's a non-starter for them; especially after you tell them that audience largely moved to Nintendo. At that point, they'd prefer SE to die.
Hating SquareEnix is normal
Wasn't Atlus doing fine when he said this?
but it's okay when E33 shills are shitting on literally every game that released in the past 40 years by claiming the same things you're seething?
sales
What is this outdated metric? Everyone knows only the number of people who watched the steam page for 15 seconds matter
XVI and Rebirth have both flopped.
Yeah, they bled so much talent in the 90's and 2000's and a lot of the talent that they have left is doing meaningless shit for some reason.
Why would Square care ?
They literally don't, which is why Dragon Quest XII and Final Fantasy XVII won't be turn-based either.
FFXVII status?
bitter ex-wow fanboys who are now bitter ex-ff14 fanboys really want this to be their generations GW2 vs SWTOR for some reason
Do you know where that talent went? These are the studios to watch.
Tendies and mmotroons still mad at no kids models in ff14
releasing exclusively on Switch 2 in 2027
You know, this is probably true because the people I know who are shilling E33 the hardest are people who quit FF14 during DT or EW patches.
Dragon Quest XII won't be turn-based
Based and day one purchase if true.
DQXI is a great game, but I couldn't finish it because the combat got so annoying.
It will be multiplatform
DQXI is a great game
Couldnt be me
i dropped it once i got the fag circus guy
it was tremendously boring. Combat wise, music wise, story wise.
I does feel like that doesn't it? Just replace the random "kino" threads using Verso's face with Emet Selch and it looks the exact same.
It would be kind of poetic if SE went back to turn based battles on their first mainline FF game that's going to be on Nintendo platforms at launch.
Expedition 33: inspired by several Final Fantasy games
FFXVI: inspired by Game of Thrones and Devil May Cry
FFXVII: inspired by Expedition 33
we're coming full circle bros
Nah e33 is good but certain people have a massive hateboner for ff
Mods should unironically make a board dedicated to SE sales since there are more SE sales threads than jrpg threads lmao
I've seen so many devs saying the same and then, selling to Sony or worse, Embracer that I'll be really surprised if they don't sell themselves to someone at some point.
I have no idea either. I played and loved both but its weird coming here and seeing people try to argue as to who's millionaire daddy made the better product
Yoshi Piss status?
Killing himslef after the latest 14 patch flopped
it won't. Nintendo will literally buy SE so Takahashi can finally create the Xenogears he wanted.
Wasn't Dead Space was inspired by Resident Evil 2 and Resident Evil 2 Remake was inspired by Dead Space?
with a shit taste like that, no wonder you actually enjoyed E33
nah FF7 remake combat has massive potential. If they can refine it so there's more strategy in between waiting for the ATB to fill and make the animations better, as well as fill each character role better than I don't see why they have to change.
Playing it instead of seething about it sure helps.
I think it was RE4
Casually avoiding to shit up Xenoblade and fire emblem threads
Prophetic
FF 7 trilogy is the best thing that happened to Nintendies. Trilogy goes from 2020 to 2026 or whichever year that part comes, that means they can pretty much shit up other games by hiding behind this other ip they hate.
I still remember their dmc5 vs kh3 bullshit
Nigga have you seen stellar blade threads? Schizos falseflag a lot
Kek is this true?
"No one wants to spend time selecting commands from a menu anymore, especially the younger gamers"
Baldur's Gate 3 comes out a few months later and utterly obliterates FFXVI
Oh I was laffin
Atelier Dusk series was literally inspired by Attack on Titan, Madoka and Fallout New Vegas
Atelier Yumia was literally inspired by Halo series
both Ateliers have nothing that you can really relate or link about those series that inspired them.
inspiration can hit in the most unexpected way sometimes lol
They will ignore it, old japanese corporate men will never admit they were wrong, they're worse than bitchy women.
cope xivtranny
Playstation players only care about movie games like Spiderman and God of War, there was no audience there. There's a reason the only Playstation exclusive anyone ever gave a shit about was Bloodborne (and DeS) prior to emulation catching up.
Maybe if you retards weren't insufferable as fuck people would not hate you
i dropped it once i got the fag circus guy
The producers said that DQXII will be a "darker" game, so I suppose the series won't have stuff like this anymore.
Yeah, the JRPG audience largely moved to Nintendo platforms after the Switch released. SE finally accepted this after FF7: Rebirth tanked due to being a timed PS exclusive.
and why should they care about a game that couldn't even reach 20k units sold in their own territory?
I generally dont like DQ games. I feel like they are too vanilla.
Maybe at one point i will but i dont know.
It needs to come to the Switch 2 if they want Japanese sales.
When is FF16 going to be added to ps plus? You would have expected to to have been added by now as FF7 Remake got added faster.
Atlus was releasing SMTV on PS5 and something else within that same year
Good for Sandfall. They deserve it
SE should've been "getting back to the basics" for damn near two decades now
The Rebirthfags on Anon Babble absolutely deserve to eat shit. Everyone who browses here understands this. Thankfully they already bought Rebirth
"darker" game
so it will be shit just like FFXVI was.
baguette bros we cant stop winning
That's only physical copies you autist. They were sold out for quite a while because they only shipped 10k copies initially.
Yes, turn-based cultists will hate DQXII as well.
The Rebirthfags on Anon Babble absolutely deserve to eat shit. Everyone who browses here understands this.
This, an absolute menace to other fanbases. They spent years shitting up Xeno threads, DMC threads, Atlus threads, etc. They're geting what they deserve.
The game was never sold out in Japan.
Anyway, have sales picked up? Nope. It is just on sale.
The game was never sold out in Japan.
this is a lie
that's only phsyical copies
and? Japan digital market hardly reach 40% of total physical sales and that usually only happens with Nintendo games or really popular series like FF, DQ, Tales, Persona, etc. pretty sure all japanese devs staff just saw its name and thought "which westa slopa is that?" without even yahooing it to see which game it was.
Prove it, because I have only every seen it in stock.
Anyway, E33 is currently in stock and it still sells likes shit.
About time Yoshitpiss got his teeth kicked in. Fucker has been too complacent these past few years
Low sales in japan the land of jrpg, no switch release, cracked and game pass day 1
This is even more impressive
I love how much Yoshi-P makes turn-based cultists seethe. :)))
DQ total sales is basically 60-65% Japan 35-40% rest of the world
Japanese fans hates when series do major changes like that so the game will flop harder than ever
so that's how SE decided to kill DQ? lol
You know that has online and dating shit right
Xenofag falseflagging
Remember you shit up Kiseki threads
Japan teaches the west how to make good wrpgs again with Dark Souls
West teaches japan how to make jrpgs again with E33
Pottery
Kiseki is literally everything wrong with modern JRPGs, you deserve to be shit on.
Nintendie doing it's recruiting shit again
Idk why are you acting as atlusfags getting along when threads were personafags vs smtfags
West teaches japan how to make jrpgs again with E33
good thing it'll never happen since japanese creators are getting literally boycotting westa slopa.
and? Japan digital market hardly reach 40% of total physical sales
lol you are living in the 2010s. the overwhelming amount of anime, vidya purchases are done digitally like 70:30 post coof in nipland.
source: my ass
E33 physical copies are sold out so hard that people are willing to pay twice its original price on ebay. So, yes. It counts and that tweet isn't even in response to the 3.3 million number.
mega franchise vs. literally who AA game
Are you even human? Do you understand context?
this lol
like bro, why is it so hard for jrpg fans to enjoy more than a single series? You hardly can find people that enjoy Final Fantasy, Persona, Megaten, Trails, Xenoblade, Tales, Atelier, etc. even when you find someone that enjoy more than 3, they always hate something else. it's fucking painful.
3.5 million copies of Remake were sold in three days. On a single platform.
I knew that turn-based cultists were retarded, but holy shit.
Most people left this board so they try to generate traffic with flamewar
Pic related is when one schizo forgot about ids
vtumors
You can but you get immediately shut down by shitposters thinking you are trying to kiss the other ass
Hopefully paying attention
33 will sell for years to come, nobody is buying FF16 anymore
budget a fraction of FF rebirth or FF16
will sell more copies than both
far more profitable
turn based
SE better start caring.
He's not entirely wrong, he's just wrong about the only answer being action. People most definitely received Atlus' more instant response system they did with P5 and continued with Metaphor very positively. There are games copying it already. E33 itself has a ton of real time elements.
There aren't that many pure turn based "select from a list" games anymore. Last big one was probably Square's own DQXI, ironically.
sounds like bullshit you can get everything online now
Yoshi-P says gamers don't want turn-based games
gives us Fantasian, a turn-based game, anyway
turn-troon cultists don't buy it
turn-troon cultists continue to attack Yoshi-P
turn-troon cultists prove Yoshi-P right
poetry
With stuff like that it's usually disappointed former fans.
Not looking good
Try reading next time, but first you must kill yourself for our amusement.
SE has been releasing turn based games
Romancing saga 2 got a great remake
SaGa Frontier 2 remastered with new content
SaGa Emerald Beyond
Octopath games
Supported Fantasian, a turn based game made by sakaguchi
DQ2HD with a new party member
FF9R turn based (not this is just leaker rumour)
Turnbasedfags are just posers. Exp33 would have sold as well even with a Souls combat thanks to having a party interacting, presentation and being multiplatform
what's the following cope?
Just like with tax evasion.
Doesn't make it legal.
Amazon NYC
The price is almost double, and it will be available between June 12th and June 30th. Amazon is the seller. Usually it's 1-2 days max.
Otherwise, it's the Japanese game version.
FF died 20 years why are you people still so obsessed
Is this just Microsoft trying to buy Square or what
I like Expedition 33 but I really don't think real time parry based niggas in a row is what people have in mind when they ask for a return to form. The combat they have going for Remake and Rebirth is better, in my opinion. If they're not actually doing it the traditional way, keep working on that instead.
I do want the world map back though, it allows for a lot more variety in environments if not every asset must be made for 1:1 scale.
Square Enix status?
enix
soon
squeenix sisters.... our response???!
that's manga retard
AAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
If any other game sold 3 million copies Anon Babble would be calling it a flop.
Does this count alternative terms as well? I feel like the only game peopel would search or talk about using the full name on this list is FFXVI. Nobody is gonna type the full title for any of the others.
It's a "topic search" ie. everything Google's algorithms decide it's about a topic. If I look up "e33 maelle nude mod" it still counts for the topic.
It's also important to be honest and point out that the game wasn't originally mass-produced. The publisher didn't anticipate its success. We'll have to wait for the next restock.
Only the AAA ones, you disingenuous nigger. But they don't even manage that these days.
Nigger thinks Turn Based is the reason why E33 and BG3 are successful
lol. it is because they have hot women. nobody plays this for the garbage piss easy gameplay
I can't find it in Greece anywhere. Three physical stores I went to didn't have it, the four big online sellers don't have it, you can only preorder for "Q2 2025".
Getting it from Germany would take 2 weeks minimum.
I already pirated in on PC because I'm tired of waiting
I love how much his own hubris of thinking he knows best, is being used against him.
I see, makes sense then.
anime & manga are one & the same. in fact anime is even more catered to digital sales considering it's made to be viewed rather than read. another article that proves this.
animenewsnetwork.com
Exp33 has to add action stuff, both dodge/parry and inputs to counteract the turn based design
LMAO YOSHIP IS RIGHT
Yep, Yoshi-P was right. Not even turn-based fans don't buy turn-based games.
Yoship gets more threads than turn based games
Funny.
That still proves nothing about vidya
If you're publicly traded, then fraudulent statements about sales are actually that: fraud.
it's another "anon has to invent a console war for every game so he can feel like he's 'winning'" episode
That guy deserves his own fucking board, he is half posting in this board
FFXVI sold that in a day, E33 confirmed flop
3.3m sales would be a flop for a full quality AAA game. Now they should temper their expectations and downsize if they don't reach that because I personally don't know how much square sells nowadays
Bro you live in Greece, the land of demigods, paradise islands and sexy goddesses. Go to the beach while waiting
You mean work for 600 euros a month so foreigners can go to our beaches.
He was kinda right. The old menu-based systems sucked and nobody liked them. What he missed is that you didn't need to get rid of turn-based combat alltogether, just make it snappier.
That's why the stylised face-button system popularised by P5(yes I know it existed before, nobody cares) works so well. It lets players select the move they want faster and it makes them use more buttons. Pressing buttons and watching cool shit happen just feels better than scrolling through menus. The bits of animation and stylish transitions as you get from one menu to another also add a bit more flair to the combat.
In the end modern turn based games do actually follow the mantra of "press the trigger and your character will shoot their gun" and "press a button and your character will swing their sword". What he clearly missed was that this could be done without switching to realtime combat.
live-action
They should make it animated. Get those frogs that worked on Arcane to do it.
It's Kepler's project, so don't hold your breath.
3.3 million sales is low in comparison to how hard this game was shilled and botted.
Turn based games just don't sell well, no matter how good they are.
I mean, they have a point. Just put some nube ass on screen to make it go down easier, I guess.
Stop being a zoomer retard. The game was already successful at 300k sales. Devs probably fucked hookers for a month straight now with all the cash that they got.
A big budget FF selling 3m is a flop as the franchise used to sell more than 10mi per title, a low budget game from a new franchise selling 3m is a success because no one expected it to sell anyway
The difference is obvious for anyone with 2 neurons
It will double that number after GOTY edition
What do you faggots get out of anti-shilling? Literally the same posts, character for character.
Anon BTFO saying it wouldn't sell 3 million. In fact, they were saving it for a special number of 33 days to announce the next update.
buy an ad
buy a dilator
expedition 33 combat
despite being turn based, the game completely favors everything dodge/parry based, undermining any RPG mechanics in the game. As for the lumina/pictos system, it is completely broken and you just stack shit on top of the other, creating a game thats about one shotting enemies AND focusing on dodging/parrying rather than healing/buffing to mitigate damage
people call it "a masterpiece" for some reason when it clearly hates its RPG elements
FFVII remake/rebirth
despite being an action RPG game, the game is carefully balanced around taking damage, so healing and buffs are always good
despite people claiming it is a button mash slop, its based around ATB management, very similar to turn based games
its a party effort when you stagger enemies, not just individual performance
once you become good at the game, the battles become VERY fast and it is much more fun to stagger and do a lot of damage by pure execution rather than just one shotting with one click
Why do people prefer the turn absed game that hates its roots over the game that took a design and improved it in every way?
E33 was inspired by FF15
it's a beloved game
Yep. He was completely right, his game just sucked. Two different things.
Shipped means sold to retailers and is therefore revenue SE received
Digitally sold is digital sales which SE gets directly
FF17 is being made by chad Takatsugu Nakazawa
People ask for proper AAA turn-based experience
Yoshi-P gives a secondary game made by secondary team
People rightfully turn their nose
Yoshi-P acts smug when he wen out of his way to play "corrupt a wish"
Retards buy this
forspoken sold 2x as much as e33 did in japan lol
Expedition 33 confirmed a failure
People don't play singleplayer turn based games to come up with 9000 IQ strategies or plan out every turn 10 turns into the future and they never have. This is why the overwhelming majority of turn based JRPGs are extremely easy.
If you're part of that microniche there's always competitive pokemon(through web battlers, too much hassle to set it up on an actual game).
People play singleplayer turn based games to watch cool shit happen and a small element of challenge or strategy makes it feel earned(but not too difficult). The addition of easy timing challenges for extra damage further enhances this.
The parry/dodge system is there because once you learn the boss pattern and nail every parry it feels fucking amazing. It's still relatively simple but that little bit of effort makes the big counter feel earned.
ff16 was 3m shipped plus digital sales and never sold through 3m
it still hasn't
It comes at the cost of making the rest of the game feel like shit because combat is so slow.
because combat is so slow.
You mean fights that barely last a couple turns once everything comes online mid act 2?
Deserved. The term 'work of art' gets thrown around too loosely sometimes, but this game is legitimately art.
The key factor here is cozy controlled pace. In Remake/Rebirth, the game dictates the pace and that feels bad. In E33, you dictate the pace and it feels good.
unreal5 slop where every screenshot looks stupid
work of art
not true
for example ff7r sold 1m in japan in april 2020 but 702k was physically sold week 1 and that 1m included shipment so less than 300k sold digitally of 7r in japan during the height of covid
he didn't give us Fantasian
Sakaguchi did years ago on mobile
all yoshitpiss did was help port it to console
all yoshitpiss does is hijack orher peoples shit like he hijacked the ff brand and destroyed it
every screenshot looks stupid
That is simply incorrect. I'm afraid your homosexuality has led you astray, anon.
Turns spent watching stupid and lengthy animations.
An RPG without succinct/skippable animations is bad by default.
only 3 FF games have sold over 10m
ff7, ff10 and ff15
They were bad games, but at least you got the impression Square Enix was trying to make something good. FF16 was just garbage that felt like no love was put into it.
I don't see why they have to change
they have to change it back to turn-based if they want my money, 3.3m people agree
quixel art will never look good
Why would Square care ?
Because they used to be the kings of turn based combat rpgs. But then they turned their backs on turn based combat while saying people don't like turn based anymore.
Expedition 33 showed them what we could have had if we had a modern turn based final fantasy.
lengthy
Have you actually played the game? Be honest, please.
You can't accidentally make a pact with a demon, you tard.
they should get the wakfu team on it
How is this game so magical?:
Hopefully not.
forspoken looks better
DQ12 will be turn-based because unlike FF fans, DQ fans won't tolerate them shoehorning in action combat. SE still remembers their attempt at doing this with IX which caused them to issue an apology, then delay the game to change the battle system.
Wow i thought E33 passing XVI would be a wakeup call. Didnt expect a meltdown from yoshit cultists and redditbirth fags. A literal WHO game and studio with like a tenth of the budget 30 people beat the latest mainline FF game with also 1000x the better reception too and the whole thread is just DOESNT COUNT DOESNT COUNT YOSHIT PISS IS A GOD THAT CAN DO NO WRONG AAAAIIIIEEEEE
Barry was unironically right in the end
How did Final Fantasy go from setting trends to being the laughing stock of the RPG genre?
dodge/parry undermine any RPG mechanics
you can break the game when using RPG mechanics
15 is ludokino
16 is trash
e33 director said ff15 influenced e33
Final Fantasy 16 sold 3 million in just 1 week.
Why not post your own screenshot of it then instead of Square marketing material?
Depends who you ask. If you were to ask me, I'd say when Sakaguchi left.
And latest estimates has it sitting around 3.4 million meaning those 3 million copies rotted on store shelves for the longest.
The redditbirth fag is completely melting down by the sales
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
source
my ass
this kills the JR piggie
Is the secret to success Jennifer English? Any game she's in seems to win GOTY.
Steam only
Rebirth and P5 weren't released on Steam on day one, retard. This graph is completely useless.
Here's the real one for those curious.
They started letting people make vanity projects and not make what fans would want.
It selling more than Hashino's latest game after so many awards and perfect scores and a gorillion copies of P5 sold, then it's not really a relevant metric to any "turn based" discussion anymore. It's a very singular level of success. Any other lower budget studio trying to replicate it and betting on a similar level of success would get royally fucked.
barry always wins
Expedition 33 showed them what we could have had if we had a modern turn based final fantasy.
100% disagree.
Even if Square stayed with turn-based approach, they would never be able to make anything close to E33.
The problem lies deeper. Japanese RPGs are stagnating because they have very little collaboration between their writers and programmers. That's why their stories feel so cold and robotic. Western RPGs feel more strongly authored because both writers and programmers work in tandem. Unfortunately, this is a cultural issue that can't be fixed over night.
E33 sissies? Our response?
that isn't square marketing material
blatant trendchasing (game of thrones)
trashing their own turnbased roots
and making statements like these
Here is the 2nd graph.
Honestly, this is more of a damning statement on Metaphor Refantazio. It neither dominated on Playstation or Steam.
This is only true if you limit "Japanese RPG" to mean only the games that would fit your argument, which wouldn't make sense when you're considering Expedition 33 to be a Western RPG in the same breath, so you're establishing country of origin as the only relevant metric.
From Software redefined the entire industry by taking a holistic approach to game design in the age of bloated western icon chasers (which they ended up falling victim to anyway).
Of course every Japanese RPG is bad if every good RPG made in Japan that comes out doesn't count for one reason or another.
I think people who somehow don't consider ATB to be turn based weren't alive when these games were released. They were always considered turn based. Basically if you can't spam button presses to get endless attacks, it's turn based. Zelda ALTTP isn't turn based because you can spam the attack button. Whereas in CT or FF6 you cannot do this. Secret of Mana is the closest thing to the "hybrid" these people describe, but it heavily punishes you for spam attacking due to very low damage if you don't wait for your turn bar to fill up.
ATB is definitely turn-based, BUT it is a different type of it and falls into the narrative of Square-Enix always experimenting with Final Fantasy. Ever since the PS1 FF was much more their flagship big budget spectacle series while DQ was the traditional design experience. FF changing to be hip with the kids is a part of FF's identity. It never stayed as just one thing for too long. It's similar to RE in this regard.
Fantasian was Sakaguchi and the Mistwalker team, yoship just helped with getting it on PC
SE wasn't a fucking thing in the PS1 days and FF was always experimenting with the series.
This bitch is going to be the European version of Jennifer Hale and I hate it... I don't want to hear her in fucking everything
How about Ben Starr becoming British Troy Baker?
I hate that too.
I can't tell is this cringe or based. they are trying to signal that they are still in control but no one gives a fuck about their gay shit.
And the best selling game in the series isn't turn-based, turn-troons always conveniently overlook that little factoid.
But enough about Doom.
I know i'm only like an hour in but I just entered the manor for the first time and I am extremely underwhelmed. Does Maelle really make the game?
XIV? I mean, mmo system can hardly be called action
It's not a game made for brown people, just drop it
atb is command based and time based not turn hased
xiv doesn't sell anything
the accounts aren't sales they count free trial
ff14 only sold 1.45m
more people played forspoken than dawntrail too
Square doesn’t care
and why that’s a good thing
You’re a fucking idiot, SE should care and for fucking once open their eyes and what fans want from their fucking franchise. FFXVI was the first FF they’ve released that I didn’t buy, and have had absolutely no desire to buy since it came out. I have seen nothing at all about that game that makes me want to play it or call it Final Fantasy, and FFXV was such an abysmal piece of shit with its fuck awful story. E33 looked interesting so I took a shot and it is exactly what I have wanted from FF for the past 20 years that they haven’t been able to accomplish.
Wow only a couple more million and it might break even.
Why does se refuse to release rebirth sale numbers?
Reset troons are as tendie as they come.
Reminder that square got professional athletes to advertise XVI
Reminder that XVI paid to be the final game trailer at the end of the game awards in 2022
Reminder that square had multiple posters around time square and other major cities around the world advertising the game
Reminder sony hosted a sony direct specifically to show off XVI to millions of players
Reminder that Square had shitty medieval museums around the UK to advertise FFXVI
Reminder that Yoshit had a celebration day where they sat there and celebrated the launch of XVI with hundreds of ecelebs while yoshit was sucking himself off anytime he got
reminder that he even got maximillian dood to shill for the game and even he hated it when hes the biggest FF7R shill
and EVEN STILL THEY FAILED TO SELL MORE THAN EXPEDITION 33 A TEAM WITH 30 FUCKING PEOPLE MAKING A TURN BASED FINAL FANTASY REIMAGINING
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA GET FUCKED YOSHIT PISS AKA MINIGAMES ARE LE TOO MATURE FOR MY FINAL FANTASY AKA I WANT THE COD AND FIFA AUDIENCE AKA REALISTIC FF WOULD NEVER WORK AS TURN BASED
EAT SHIT YOU RETARD
Why do you seethe so hard over the man all the time? It's a bit pathetic to watch.
it was funny they hired Maximilian dood to play ff16 on stream and after he beat it he immediately said ff15 was better lmao
Laughing at a retard that killed a franchise is the same as seething
Lol if anything the one whos pathetic is him getting BTFO'D
Poor Kiara...
Also it's seriously so fucking weird that this is Kiara
Phoenix mating ritual
the paid shill E33 marketing campaign has reached the point where it's not even trying to shill E33 anymore
it's just shitposting about Final Fantasy and Square Enix
He's been doing it for at least 5 years now, since well before XVI released, so there's no reason to believe he's ever going to stop, and I don't think anyone knows why he ever started.
If anything yoshit got square to pay 100000x more to advertise XVI compared to E33 and E33 still beat it
fucking pathetic. Square should go out of business
Do you really think the E33 people have the amount of money needed to virally market on Anon Babble? These are people who saw the game, got interested, bought it, liked it and want to shit on SE now because they are mad that SE has not been catering to their needs when Square used to.
Do you really think the E33 people have the amount of money needed to virally market on Anon Babble?
...uhh, yes? Of course they do. Are you being retarded on purpose?
Discords full of retards are paying other retards in $5 google play gacha giftcards to shitpost. Of course a nepo baby who made a successful game can pay one cent per shill post. He might even use daddy's connections if he has to!
bg3 e33 in youre path
Meds, now.
remake
remake
anime bullshit
anime bullshit
anime bullshit
remake
remake
im seeing a trend here that defines the games you enjoy and the outlook is bleak. i think i can safely discard your opinion without much consequence.
I think I've seen more E33 threads be about other RPGs than actually be about E33
Would I like this game if I hated Persona?
Yeah, this game is kind of universally good. It's like all the good things about JRPGs without all of the bad offputting stuff.
Can't help it insecure Final Fantasy fanboys flood into them to bitch and moan.
Are you stupid?
Like, are you genuinely asserting that a studio funded by a nepo baby who is using daddy's connections, headquartered in a building owned by daddy, having already created a successful game with a modestly assumed budget of $33 million dollars, is literally incapable of affording $.01 per post?
Like, your argument isn't even something like "uhh... it's completely organic, I swear!" your argument is "the devs are living in shoeboxes! they couldn't afford to shill this game for pennies per post even if they wanted to! and trust me, that do not want to do that!"
Will I enjoy just the gameplay? because i usually skip cutscenes if they're too long.
Even before E33 released, ever since the first footage really, there has been quiet campaigns to use it to shitpost Square Enix. I guess the marketing team decided at some point that it was more effective to shitpost about Square Enix than it was to shill E33 on its own merits.
I'm seeing a lot of conspiracy spewing and no facts.
How did Final Fantasy go from setting trends to being the laughing stock of the RPG genre?
It stopped being (non-MMO) RPGs. That does it.
It used to be the undisputed king of its hill, but Square Enix weren't happy with that and now Final Fantasy is the king of no hill.
Why are you people so obsessed with it being shills when people have been angry and annoyed at Square Enix for YEARS now?
Claire Obscur wouldn't exist without FF9
Because there are 20 threads in the catalogue for this game.
I think he's just legit that mentally ill.
I think I've seen more E33 threads be about other RPGs than actually be about E33
Literally every E33 thread is like:
WHY ISN'T FINAL FANTASY TURN-BASED ANYMORE BOO HOO HOO
WHY DID YOU DO ME DIRTY SQUARE ENIX BOO HOO HOO
kek
Even though the battle strategy starts to boil down to a somewhat repetitive affair, it isn’t as bad as Persona but I’ve only played 5. However 5 got so repetitive with
spam weakness
spam all out
that I ended up dropping it even though I was towards the end. Also the story in E33 and character interactions are much better, even though I did like the characters enough in P5 and the comfy atmosphere and music.
True most likely.
And Final Fantasy used to be genuinely amazing.
A real, real, unironic and genuine shame that Square Enix no longer wishes to make games like them.
At least their claims of how it just wouldn't be feasible or possible anymore to do so, keeps being disproven time and time again by other developers.
Final Fagtasy fags in shambles
Nonstop threads everyday shitposting about the ending
UHHHHH I NEVER SEE THREADS ABOUT THE GAME
Fucking kill yourself you lying redditbirth/yoshit tranny
i heard she cried all the way home. sexual assault in a room full of guys does that.
People don't play singleplayer turn based games to come up with 9000 IQ strategies or plan out every turn 10 turns into the future and they never have.
Most people play classic RPGs precisely because of that, when there is no dexterity involved its all about specs and planning
First week was good, lot of discussion about the actual game. By now it's just used as another vehicle for shitposting about SE. Usual suspects, no doubt.
And surprising X was the last (non MMO) game made by Squaresoft before the merger.
Claire Obscur wouldn't exist without FF9
You forgot, Shadow Hearts, FFX, FF7, and Persona
And surprising X was the last (non MMO) game made by Squaresoft before the merger.
X-2 was.
There are constantly 2 threads that go to bump limit talking about the lore/arguing about interpretations based retard.
See the gigachad verso and creepy maelle being posted everyday for months
there were nonstop threads talking about the game daily
meanwhile yoshit troons and redditbirth fans be like
NOBODY TALKS ABOUT EXPEDITION 33 UNLESS ITS TALKING ABOUT FINAL FANTASY
Actually fucking delusional morons that think the whole world revolves around their dead franchise known as final faggotry
Why havent they given another mainline FF to Asano and his team? The cost to profit ratio of his games has to be way better than the last few Final Fantasy's right?
Reminder the last good game was Final Fantasy X, which was over 23 years ago. FFX is old enough to have graduated university.
I'm in Act 3 now and gotta ask, is it ever worth using other swords then Dualiso?
Final fantasy 7 threads are all about which stale girl is the best fuck for the clearly homosexual mason character, they have nothing to talk about
when Clair Obscur's director found out FFXVI was going to be action-based
thanks for the billions, yoshi-p
and ff8
and ff10
and ff15
>See the gigachad verso and creepy maelle being posted everyday for months
>there were nonstop threads talking about the game daily
I've made like half of those threads and I've never played the game
Square Enix status?
Here!
Don't be disingenuous. You can beat FF7 by just spamming the basic attack and it's one of the most beloved turn based RPGs ever made.
Yes, there are definitely games that are a bit more complex but almost none of them require intricate planning. Even SMT games which people like to pretend are super deep can mostly be beaten with a basic buff, debuff, heal, hit strategy.
Square should do an experiment and make another decently budget turn-based Final Fantasy with a smaller team. I don't think they will because there's a chance it could confirm some uncomfortable things.
You can beat FF7 by just spamming the basic attack
No you can't.
That already exists. It's called Bravely Default.
Kiara's old job was to be a softcore not-quite-whore doing wrestle touching roleplay, a role that exists in the porn obsessed virgin country of japan.
Low-budget handheld series.
there hasn't been a normal budget main FF game since 6
people dont play turn based games to play the game
they play it to watch cool cinematics
go watch a movie then ffs
I'm not boughing your game, shills.
This is Guillaume Broche (CEO of Sandfall)'s father:
angelmatch.io
is it ever worth using other swords then Dualiso?
The correct weapon to be using on every character is the one that maxed out their gimmick on battle start or the one that most easily facilitates stacking their gimmick.
Verso's best weapon is the one that puts him in S Rank on battle start.
Their stock is up 50% in the last 6 months
Observing to see if this is just a FOTM situation or of turn based is back on the menu
muh stocks
I don't care about their funny money jewry, they haven't made a profit in years.
It's not just because it's turn based imo. It has the whole package, I almost couldn't believe I was seeing an overworld map in 2025.
Do you guys actually want turn based combat to return, or do you just want parrying. Even by the end of E33 it was getting old I cant imagine every other game having it.
My wife is a bully
They just want their childhood back. It's really that simple. They never moved on. They peaked before they were even attracted to women. That's what they miss, they just haven't realized it.
Atlus has never stopped making turn based kinos so I don't really get why people are saying it's "back".
Lune is the most attractive western vidya female I've seen since Tomb Raider reboot.
kinos
Lol
Lmao
If you're 12 maybe
They don't know what they want until the corpos shovel it down their throats.
Atlus
Anime=faggot shit
Glad E33 fixed the genre
Atlus makes animeslop
It's just shitposting. 95% of the people involved in the turn based argument don't give a shit and just want to argue for attention.
Anime website
I'm still waiting for a response.
I don't think most are ready for this truth
Only to those who deserve it!
I don't think people (including Square) have realized how far Final Fantasy has fallen from the cultural zeitgeist
used to be that Final Fantasy games were the biggest releases of the year, being bought by people who don't even play JRPGs, because the brand alone carried it
nowadays, aside from the MMO, no one except 30+ year olds give a fuck about Final Fantasy, it was a star in its heyday, but those days are long gone. Final Fantasy 16 underperformed for a AAA title and even FFVII Rebirth notably underperformed, despite being part of the long awaited remake and I hear the MMO had a pretty shitty expansion recently, so even that's not going well
honestly I don't see FF lasting any longer in the AAA space, they've tried everything to get the FF name back into the mainstream but it hasn't worked
Actions such as 'press the trigger and your character will shoot a gun'...can now be easily expressed without going through a command system
Expedition 33 literally proves this point with all of the real-time active elements to its combat, which people keep praising.
The goal is to shitpost about Final Fantasy and Yoshida. Your comment is late, but even if it had been on time, it would have been ignored.
see: It's really quite interesting. I'm sure you'd be just as interested as I was in how well positioned the lil ol' Freemasonry game actually was. A lot more than 33 people worked on it too. Perhaps even 666 people.
ok fair
I guess you weren't interested after all. You just wanted to blindly defend your new overlords, like a cultist :)
Status: Nigger.