BF4 is a shit baseline for BF6

BF3's guns felt different unlike BF4

i disagree but maybe both games dont differentiate very well beyond weapon "types" within their category (e.g loong range ar's low rpm ar's high rpm pump n dump ar's) 3 had terrible balance where there was like 5 good guns and everything else you shouldnt bother
3 also heavily nerfed first shot recoil multiplier and had less recoil on long bursts meaning you didn't really need to time them outside of wasting ammo

there is none, unless you count glitches like the vouzou jump. 3 had none of this garbage in casual servers

vouzou, zouzou, bunny hopping, air strafing, mario jumps, etc. 3 is a lot more boring imo for not having any, certainly a game with a more boring balance and infantry dynamic, especially when you consider the skewed class balance and weapon balance.

3 doesn't suffer from this because the maps were better.

all admit all class dmr was not the best but it beats the hell out of having none. 3 still had plenty of maps with fuck huge sightlines and playing a class like engie it really shows just how little range you can squeeze out of a carbine.
example maps: gulf of oman, nebandan, armored shield, riverside, wake, kiasar, caspian, even more maps that while have more close range combat will still have huge sightlines on some areas and objectives. It sucks to not be able to engage enemies on huge swaths of the map, regardless of class distinctions

when they already have Apex

not that anon but they shit the bed with Apex and killed Titanfall, now EA suits are off to kill battlefield too, if DICE can't do it first.

you make some valid points but I'm tired and need to sleep
BF3's long sightlines + suppression + low damage range for weapons other than snipers actively discouraged you from engaging at longer distances unless you had the gun for it. it was simply not a good time for anyone without a bolt-action or DMR
also

defending BF4's busted movement

calling BF3's balance worse than 4

let's agree to disagree

some other jetfag

air. peace.

lol
lmao even
fucking BC2fags are so high on nostalgia fueled delusion it's insane sometimes

they shit the bed with Apex

How. I thought it was a retard proof juggernaut.

BC2fags are so high on nostalgia fueled delusion

I played that game for 10+ years and it is IMHO the best frostbite battlefield. It had its issues but it was simply fun to play.

All Battlefields from 3 and onwards are objective shit except BC2
This is objective

2142 was fucking GOAT. I miss playing that with buddies back in the day. I crashed every damn copter. They knew not to let me get in the cockpit, but I did it anyway.

you make some valid points but I'm tired and need to sleep

valid get some sleep anon, BF discourse will always be happening no matter what unforutnately

actively discouraged you from engaging at longer distances unless you had the gun for it

that's a good point. My argument against that it that it encourages stacking a lot of recon players which is annoying to fight if you lack those range options and that suppression is probably the worst part of 3. Having your screen smeared in vaseline and weapon accuracy go to shit because someone shot at you makes encounters less interesting and come down to whoever shoots first will probably win first. (all things considered might not matter much considering TTK is so short

defending BF4's busted movement

probably an acquired taste more than anything. I like movement shooters and find movement the most interesting aspect in FPS games. Perhaps there's a happy middle ground to be met between "movement tech" and total boots on the ground. BF1 was pretty good at that imo

calling BF3's balance worse than 4

weapon balance yes, vehicle balance fuck no 4 sucks ass at that. The jet is still the spawn of satatn in 3 and any jet player worth a damn can evade ground missiles but 4 is worse by far.
I just find that 3's infantry meta is dominated by weapons like the AEK and M16a3, leaving little options for others. Probably a bit more balanced on other classes but then again Assault's ability to do everything but restock ammo and fight vehicles means those weapons are even more skewed.
I find at least 4 tends to have weapon types that dominate more than others but individual weapons are more balanced (i.e high rpm guns tend to be better as it is in 3 but there's more options within that category to use where 3 it feels like there's 2, that and the differences between them feel like they matter more when bursting is required more often, it makes lower recoil weapons also stand out)

Anything post 2142 is a shit baseline

name ONE modern game with BF2's outdated 2005 mechanics that did well in the last 5 years.
you literally can't because BF2 was already outdated dogshit by the time CoD4 released

Battlefield 2142 was the last real Battlefield game. Everything afterwards is consolized.

If you weren't there for the glory days of PC BF1942 you don't know what quality is(was).

outdated dogshit

Spoken like a true codnigger transplant who shouldn't be even playing Battlefield games and trying to change them into cod-lite

3 had terrible balance where there was like 5 good guns and everything else you shouldnt bother

stopped reading right here
actual shitter or simply delusional

Bold of you to imply any CoDnigger could comprehend a Battlefield game.

idk man when the aek and m16 do everything theres not much reason to bother with anythihng else

idk man when aek and ace do everything theres not much reason to bother with anything else

BFBC2 annoying cunt is hiding in a house, I delete said house

BF3/4 annoying cunt is hiding in building, too bad, best I can do is perhaps allow you to blow a small hole through it

I understand why you can't bring entire apartment buildings down in 3 and 4, the tech probably couldn't really cope with it but arguing that the destruction was better than Bad Company 2 is pure retardation.

I am a former jet/heli whore and general shitbucketeer, thus I am qualified to say the following with authority: if you play new battlefield games you're absolutely, legitimately and clinically retarded. There is hardly anything that's not a better use of your time. EA deserves nothing but spite and ridicule and if you still throw money at it in [current year], you're terminally domesticated debtcattle. Your hobby isn't gaming, it's consumption.

I stipped playing BF after 4, so it's a good baseline actually. 3 and 4 where the last good ones.

aek ace and F2000*

Fuck off Gen Z shitskin.

^seething bf1 negro

This. Joining a server and being able to tell for how long people had been playing simply by how destroyed everything was is a true TECHNOLOGY moment

Bad company 2 is the peak of the franchise, you can stop deluding yourself.

32 players

BC2 had no ''''''''''leveloution''''''''''. It had destruction and it was good.

Literally fuck that homo gay shit where the same thing happens over again with little to no player input.

Battlefield 3 was almost there with ground deformation, it was pretty fun in beta.
Too bad they sucked cock and was unable to make it work properly.

fuck bf labs it's cod warzeone

Russia being depicted as a serious peer threat in fiction in 2025

lol, lmao.

I was a real good pilot.
Were you at least a good A-gunner bro?

Remember when we used to pretend that Russia could single-handedly invade both Western Europe AND the Eastern United States and then found out that they couldn't even reach the capital of a Eastern European shithole in three days?

It is oddly disappointing.

bf fans deserves everything bad that is happening to them

BF4 is a shit game in general besides fundamentals(90% directly lifted from BF3).

Shit maps designed for vehicle farmers

Shit balance(100+ guns, people only ever use same 3-4 weapons)

I have no idea why people overrate it as much as they do.
What's funny is that baseline of BF6 isn't BF but nuMW. Shit's fucked. Series is dead. Series will be a battle royale slop from now on.

BF4 was the last multigoyer game I ever played. Can't be assed to play with the shit these days.

for not having any

BF3 had gazelle jumping and jump boosting. I don't think you can jump boost in BF4 at all.

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