Over a month after launch, Clair Obscur is #8 in top sellers

Over a month after launch, Clair Obscur is #8 in top sellers.
One week after launch, DOOM The Dark Ages is #36 in top sellers.
(this is even worse when you consider it's based off revenue and E33 is cheaper)

Why was E33 a massive success while DOOM flopped hard?

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DOOM peaked in the 90s.
insane that people still care about that dead series.

First ever officially $80 game, people need to draw a line, unfortunately not enough did and it will become the standard regardless

Shame it have zero unique system

Most people who played the new Doom didn't even paid for it on steam, wasn't it given away for free on game pass day 1?

Oh look another totally genuine organic thread for FOTM is posted despite there already being multiple other active threads. Eat a bunch of cocks shill faggots

She won.

50 bucks for a 60 hours game or 80 bucks for a 10 hours game

he actually thinks doom flopped

jesus christ, delusional

tsk tsk

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not enough did

lmao, the game flopped like a fucking turd in the toilet bowl. Less than 1m actual copies sold

Reminder, MS predicted 450m (FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION) in revenue for this game.

Yes, it sold at least 80% lower than expected by MS internal estimates

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Conventional wisdom was "you take a hit in the sales for that Game Pass income", but then you get shit like E33 and STALKER2 which still sold well despite being on Game Pass.

The Game Pass excuse was always a cope. Steam and PS5 players barely give a shit about Game Pass, and for actually good and impactful games, people actually want to own and pay for them.

For filler slop like Avowed or DOOM, people just play it on gamepass to see what it's like because it's not a game they have particularly high interest in.

source: my ass

no, a no name analyst isn't a source

We've gone full circle. People are now making E33 threads to annoy the shit out of autists who can't handle this game's success.

If MS is the only source you will accept, you will never get a source because MS refuses to ever release any sales numbers, only player/MAU counts.

PS, Xbox, and Steam all have global best seller charts, and the game has charted extremely poorly and had no legs.

DOOM is way cheaper lmfao, it uses the same engine and assets as the previous one, it's basically a DLC so they made a fortune from it. However, E33 cost hundreds of millions with their A listers and massive marketing campaign. It will take the whole year to break even for them.

DOOM: TDA

5k ratings on PS5

13k reviews on Steam

Expedition 33 (a game that sold 3.3m)

33k ratings on PS5

70k reviews on Steam

it sold about 500k copies being generous

The MOMENT anyone starts throw around phrases like players or any metric other than sales you know the game's in trouble.

It's a metric that have been used for ages especially on respected platforms with subscriptions. Copies sold is old news, and actually it's shipped not sold.

unfortunately not enough did

The game flopped ultra hard.

Why was E33 a massive success while DOOM flopped hard?

Streamers were paid fat checks to play E33. Look asmongold, probably 6 figures right there alone. Soda and Emiru from his org as well.

DOOM: TDA had projected earnings of $450m (straight from MS financial reports). It's massively bloated like all AAA pieces of shit.

E33 has extremely low budget, likely under 15m, they were profitable just from preorder numbers alone.

DOOM was basically stillbirth; sales just totally fell off a cliff just a few days after release. Meanwhile E33 has barely slowed down even over a month after release.

$450m

holy shit what a disaster, i doubt they even got 50m

I don't know why you fuckers pretend people weren't excited for E33 from its very reveal. Hell, it was the highlight of the event.

Cope MS Pajeet

E33 has extremely low budget, likely under 15m, they were profitable just from preorder numbers alone.

15m for E33. If you believe that you are the biggest sucker on Earth. Serkis and Cox ALONE were paid millions. The guy admitted that he hired the best of the best and the most expensive people to make this game. And then you have the massive marketing campaign, minimum $50m here.

ok, otk and asmongold are playing the game for free.

Cheaper than Vanquish and Mirror's Edge

He said it was way cheaper than anyone would estimate

He is lying. Otherwise, he would've revealed the production costs, why keep it hidden?

Serkis and Cox ALONE were paid millions

lmao no they absolutely were not. VA work doesn't pay anywhere close to that.

I can say it's cheaper than any other x or y game as long as I keep the real cost a mystery. Nice one.

I was excited from the moment it was revealed and kept up with every update, but it definitely fell off most people's radar until it released.

They are both A listers. These people won't accept any contract unless it's 6 figures, that's what the A is for.

You realize six figures isn't "millions" retard?

6 figures

so not millions then

ye pretty sure people were excited. Most people never heard of the game until 2 weeks after release.

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Serkis is C and and Cox is below that by a lot get a grip

Microsoft makes $500 million per month from Game Pass, which is $6 billion per year, and that easily covers the cost of developing their own games and 3rd party games, so how exactly is Microsoft losing when people play the game where they want them to play? steamchart fags are braindead

It peaked at 145k CCU, no matter how you spin it, it's not BG3, not even close.

Xbox niggas don't buy games. That revenue is at the expense of all their games selling like absolute dogshit. They also have to cut huge checks to get games on gamepass, especially day one.

For comparison, PS made $32b in revenue last year

if you weren't a favela monkey you would actually hear about games that aren't made by the big 3

how many ppl on your steam friend list played the game?

Most sales were in the East, China and other eastern countries. It literally didn't sell well at all in the west.

E33 succeeded because it managed to be a game that took direct inspiration from a lot of high quality sources and did things many rpgs decided they were above doing in a decade, as well as not having a bunch of gay ass walk and talk segments to pad shit out. The closest you get is at the very start of the game. It gave fans of the genre something they were looking for from final fantasy for damn bear two decades and never got again. On top of that you had an effective advertising campaign as positive word of mouth, organic or not. Combine these aspects with conventionally attractive characters for both men and women and you have a pretty good recipe for success

what does that have to do with anything retard? just because you spend your time larping as a market analyst instead of being in-touch with gaming news, doesn't mean people aren't playing

and the answer is 6

6 figures

Millions

Based retard

it flopped actually

Why do jeets always struggle with numbers?

They didn't even do the mocap and barely have any lines in the game, it's a day or two of recording max.

3.3 million sales

Source?

Because it's not like everyone and their grandmother is saving up for some new console next week, nope. Absolutely nothing major happening in a week. It was perfect timing on Bethesda's part to totally release an 80 dollar game last week.

Steam players have the Steam Deck, they don't care about Switch.

lmao Mario Kart retards don't give a fuck about DOOM

He thinks the tendies give a fuck about Doom

Lol, lmao even

The guy admitted that he hired the best of the best and the most expensive people to make this game.

Who?
The game is all junior devs, staff found on reddit and on forums, animators from youtube with zero credits to their name. They didn't get the Orchestre de Paris for their soundtrack, they called a local group of 15 young musicians.
Where could the money have gone?

E33 is cheaper
Doom is not only more expensive but also has denuvo on top of forced ray tracing

Because I'm sure there's a big overlap between people wanting to play Mario Kart day one, and people who play Doom.

Nintendorks really live in their own bubble don't they

Actually, yes.

Remember, it's not the normies who preordered the Switch 2 (if they knew about it's preorders at all).

Some employee at Id or Bethesda got triggered due to shitty timing and shifty pricing.

normies

Fuck off tourist.

I don't know marketing data shill kun, but good luck with your assignment.

i was here in the threads, people were excited
but then the game got popular so reddit rejects had to come to Anon Babble and shit up the threads about the game

Sophie even made it onto the 2024 collage.

It's still shocking that a french weeb game outsold fucking doom. A turn based rpg game outsold an FPS. Surely people couldn't be more excited about JRPG than FPS right?

ex ubisoft devs, A lister VAs..etc. This whole narrative that they hired janitors that were bored is a funny fairytale though.

E33 is cheaper

E33 may unironically cost more on marketing alone than nu-Doom.

Said marketing being threads on Anon Babble 2 weeks after release.

its all marketing

nobody is excited about it

keep coping, troon. I know you think that non woke games can't sell

N-NOBODY PLAYED IT

I think Lune's feet were crucial in the success

Someone's big mad.

The game SOLD barely 300.000 units.

Unironically this.

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Yes, I'm mad that someone is spamming the board with a/b questions to gather marketing data.

ex ubisoft devs

Two people were ex ubisoft

A lister VAs

Only Serkis and Cox who had very few lines and didn't record mocap, and they weren't even cast, Kepler offered them later. The rest were blind cast British VAs, or studio members.

I think Lune's feet were crucial in the success

'fraid so.

nuDOOM is such tryhard slop, how'd you take a marine who fights demons and turn it into some pretentious wannabe MCU slop filled with gimmicks.

What marketing?

Finally I found it. the version that plays during the Maelle ending. It sounds like they added a lot of reverb compared to the original.
youtube.com/watch?v=Ag4pHxoDSUw

Developers have been getting more and more triggered ever since BG3.

d-don't expect our games to be on the level of that game

i-it's simply not fair

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Why was E33 a massive success while DOOM flopped hard?

I don't think this has anything to do with E33 so much as The Dark Age "overcorrecting" from what people complained about in Eternal. It went from a game that was too fast for many to one that's now so slow you have to crank it beyond 100% default speed for anything resembling intensity. Not to mention who actually asked for a fucking Doom prequel?

I honestly think people were just starved for a PS1 Final Fantasy game again

I'm not. There are tons of reasons:

Dark Ages requiring decent PC specs when gettin decent PC specs has become a problem for regular joe due to scalpers over the years

Unacceptable price tag. You can throw SNES game pricing at me all you want. I dont give a fuck. I will not be paying more than $60 for a game. This is not up to debate or negotiation. Game devs need me more than I need them

Fucking parry mechanic with colored projectiles while having a gacha game like presentation. Those wbms were fucking cursed

Girlbosses and Marvel plot slop

Any good mods for luna or maelle?

a man of taste i see

>Fucking parry mechanic with colored projectiles while having a gacha game like presentation. Those wbms were fucking cursed

Funny since people also rage about parries in E33.

its 80$ for base version and 115$ inf you wanted dlc here in poland

im just not paying that much

It's on gamepass and it's way too expensive not to get it there. 33 is 50 bucks

also keep in mind doom TDA is shorter

you can beat doom in 10-12h, and expedition 33 is like 25 hours +

so the number of rating is even more depressing for doom

people making out doom eternal's skill ceiling to be higher than it was made it more "niche," so obviously the sequel wasn't going to sell as well. eternal was always peak for the franchise, it's only downhill from here (or they stop making them altogether, which I doubt). expedition is also technically niche, again, if you want to call it that, but the hype was insane and review scores were high.

3.3 million sales after 33 days

Can you mason faggots get any more blatant. No thinking person is going to fall for this shit.

They very much are. I'm one of them and this game rubs me good.

Act 3 feels like World of Ruin and I love it

World Map like pre-FFX and I love it

Blue Mage party member like Quina and I love it

Kick ass soundtrack

Menu autism like FF9 support abilities and I love it

bruh we just couldn't make this up, this is crazy bruhs

these games exist, but the issue is they'll be ignored by most people who only take notice of titles that actually GET the attention. by JRPG standards e33 got a massive spotlight put on it.

BG3 was a steaming pile of dogshit

Lunar also had a revolutionary system of making you decide whether you got EXP or loot from encounters! That's right, you don't get both, you need to pick in advance!

people also rage about parries in E33

I am not one of them. Doom already had it's fast paced run-and-gun bunny hopping energy. Parrying was just shoved in for the sake of it. Meanwhile parrying in E33 is just one defensive mechanic. For starters, E33 attacks are telegraphed more clearly either through Audio or Animation ques, there are some few cheap delays here and there but nothing cheap like in Souls genrea. If you cant nail parries then you co do Dodge which has more leniant timing. Also the game has jump and gradient counters which have obvious telegraphs and even more lenient timing than Dodge. If that is still too much for someone than by the end of Act 1 you get an accesory that allows you to just soak damage like in a turn-based game and get AP that way.

Both BG3 and E33 are masterpieces.

It's not that simple. We dont want low budget secondary games made by secondary teams.

The truth is also there's an audience that might like JRPGs but is allergic to anime nonsense. From art style to everything else. It doesn't exactly fit, but I remember FF12 back in the day got a lot of people interested who didn't really care for JRPGs or FF until that game.

HON HON HON

It was only for turn-based enjoyers. A lot of people were "ugh, if only it wasn't turn-based". It had as much highlight as South of Midnight.

Just wait until the Switch 2 port and the sales explode once again. Game will have 10mill lifetime and we'll quickly get Clea's game.

What i hear in fight dialogue

maelle: "time to eat beans!"

lune: "let us stink!"

verso: "let's take a bath"

E33 is just weeb pedo slop but french, the MC is literally a self-insert character with his harem

It's a good game.
That'll do it.

Game succeded thanks to Lune.

tattoos

disregarded

Lune confirmed more than 3 times hotter than the plastic doll in Stellar Blade.

They're runes embedded in her body. It's what grants her powers.

They're magic circuit engravings actually

So was 33

Game succeded thanks to Cunny*

FIFY

E33 is on the goypass too

What said doesn't have to be - just because your game is on GP it doesn't mean you can't have good sales.

E33 absolutely took a hit in sales for being on Gamepass, but look at it without hindsight.
It's their first game, a C tier publisher, they had angel investors that took a huge risk, and not a lot of marketing money. It made sense to take a Microsoft deal for their first game, for the free Xbox publicity, and in case their game bombed they'd cover some of their losses.
I doubt their sequel will be on gamepass, they seem capable of self funding it. Even if they don't stay with Kepler, publishers will grovel at their feet to fund anything they say for that ROI

These are pictos faggot

because Lune actually lools like a human

They do? Please tell me which ones?

This. I don't accept sloppy half-baked trash.

Wasn't Lune literally voiced by someone from reddit who ended up becoming the head writer also?

No. However it's true that the lead writer Jennifer was hired from reddit to do VA works at first but then she started giving suggestions about the story and the CEO decided to roll with it and make her lead writer.

E33 is a legitimately good game.

ah yes, the untouched virgin pretending like hes voluntarily celibate.

It's good and not woke.
You are still a retarded shill and votes/money doesn't matter

Drop some names brother.

Protect her smile.

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