Why isn't Fallout 3 remembered as fondly as Oblivion?

Fantasy is infinitely better than sci-fi.

Because Oblivion came first.

This here. Oblivion came first and the wow factor of what it was doing was already set in place, so Fallout 3 was just more of that but in a Fallout universe, although I liked its attempt at implementing VATS.

No memorable characters.

The PC port was skull fucked by GFWL which made it unplayable without fan patches for like a decade. That didn't help.

It was playable, but good god was that shit annoying.

For sure. I had a lot of fun in Fallout 3 at release, but NV is just the better game.

Start of Bethesda's bad writing era.

I'm so glad we're out of Bethesda's bad writing era now and onto better things. What a nightmare that was.

Damn right, bethesda is one of the last devs that didnt fall for wokeshit.

Because "Oblivion with guns" was not Oblivion enough.

In Oblivion, you have 8 main towns, multiple joinable factions, and a magic system with spellmaking and enchanting. F3 has Megaton, which is about the same size as a single district of the Imperial City, and it has Rivet City, which is all indoors and connected together with boring corridors. Analogues of Oblivion guilds and magic system are not found in F3.

You can't pick your race in F3 either. You have ghouls, supermutants, and even vampires in the game, but the player must be a vanilla human to fit with the Vault-child origin story.

world full of color and silly looking characters

unintentionally funny dialogues

vs

piss filter

everything is dirty

no fun allowed

Because of these faggots. NMA forums were beyond assmad that someone was attempting to turn their beloved CRPG franchise into a console shooter. Unlike Oblivion or Skyrim, FO3 had an organized hate campaign against it from the moment it was announced.

And they were right.

Starfield is incredibly woke and third worldist.

overshadowed by New Vegas, even objectively

Forgot pic. These faggots.

game about Christianity is woke

Yeah alright GCJ tranny

because both fallout new vegas and fallout 4 are better
i think people realized that its the worst fallout game besides BoS
its not a bad game but its the worst of the fallout games

What kind of mental gymnastics did you need to perform to create the delusion that Slopfield is about Christianity?

This is how you can trust bethesda, they keep talent that's been around since morrowind for their games.

piss filter

green

seek medical attention

>piss filter

But enough about New Vegas....

Ignore the retards posting dumb shit
Fallout 3 was released with Games for Windows Live and a few years later that got shut down making it unplayable for a good 4-5 years.
And then there's the build-up of faggot/drama/social people who could not shut up about the stand-alone expansion with the boring cowboy setting. So when we got the game back there was this odd resistence to it. Along with the general rise in anti-beth shills who I won't even bother explaining because it's too tiresome.

NVtrannies and e-fag essays + algo npc zoomfag conformity

Oblivion is only NOW fondly remembered by the FOTM remaster, before that 3 was held in higher regard in that it was mentioned at all, where oblivion only gets mentioned specifically by elder scrolls fans as the worst game. You guys are free to try and rewrite history though, but some of us remember how things really were

remember how things really were

you mean how morrofags seethed so hard at the success of "not-mushrooms" and it's mild casualization of removing levitation and some items that they literally praised the ground dragon meme stepped on despite the horrifying dumbing down it brough like removing fucking magic crafting?
yeah we rember that alright

They're massive faggots who don't know how good they have it. Bethesda was the literally the best possible owner of the IP.

the original Interplay owners were comically out-of-touch suits who had no reverence for the subject matter whatsoever desperate to appeal to a dudebro market they didn't even understand

Troika/Obsidian would have bankrupted themselves pushing out a half-finished mess while still turning the game into a console shooter because investors wouldn't have funded anything else

most other developers would have just made a Fallout-skinned Call of Duty. 90% of developers aren't coming up with the VATS system.

Instead they got the one developer who can satiate investor demands for a console shooter while still being mostly an RPG. And has a completely open modding environment so fans create their own damn Fallout game with the engine. And helped the original developers get their Van Buren project (renamed New Vegas) over the finish line. Obsidian would never have made anything half as good as New Vegas on their own.

Instead, they choose to be so butthurt because Bethesda was the vehicle of an industry shift that would have happened anyway. And guess what? Most of these shitters now play Metro Exodus, S.T.A.L.K.E.R., and heavily modded FO4 because they eventually got over their aversion to shooters.

But enough about New Vegas

it lacks the sovl

because it's Fallout. and it didn't meet the expectations of fallout fags

Bethesda was the literally the best possible owner of the IP.

The canon Fallout TV show systematically and irreparably removed everything interesting about it.

The 'vampires' are just cannibals and you can be a cannibal though.

Series for fags pandering to fags

Even gayer is caring about the show. The Lou Albano Mario show RUINED Mario!

You can't pick your race in F3

there's white, black, hispanic, oriental, and demon (female)

It wasn't very good over all and looked even worse after Fallout NV was released. To add to that for like a decade it didn't work at all because windows gaming went under.

The Lou Albano Mario show RUINED Mario!

It's canon, you retard. They just did a year zero reset of the entire franchise which is now BoS vs Enclave forever and nothing more. 4 killed the Fallout aesthetic and now the premise is gone too.

There woke just not as bad as fuckers like bioware.

This guy gets it we will only ever get worse fallout stores because the people working on fallout can't write for shit.

What's intersex mean?

>you will never come across the subway levels again

>you will never spend hours navigating the dc metro area

>you will never call your dad over and see him actually be impressed with the washington monument and capitol building they had in game again

Needs a remaster

FO3 is patriotic and pro-mitary and the DLC shows a communist stabbing himself so it's no surprise leftist troons hate it.

Some of the least memorable Bethesda villains colonel autumn

nigga named after a season

Worse, it was effectively an Oblivion massive conversion paid mod.

FO3 is patriotic and pro-mitary

Bethesda says greedy American capitalist pigs started the war to make money.

Fallout 3 was a good game, on par or better than Oblivion even. I think it doesn't get the praise it deserves because you have the gatekeeping purists who are mad it's not like the first two games, and the people who think New Vegas is infinitely better and hate bethesda for not recognizing it as such.

It's still an enjoyable open world game and for many it was their first foray into the Fallout universe. Yes the ending made no sense but it had plenty of good sidequests, good exploration, VATS was fun to use, and it still had decent roleplaying potential in the type of character you could be.

Shit on Todd and Bethesda all you want, but at least they seem to have a decent work environment. It's honestly kinda based they let an employee who started as "Additional QA Tester" move up to eventually be a lead producer/studio director, and based they hire modders if they feel their work mogs their own.

The US military are the antagonists because they're racist and want to kill minorities...

the series should've died, you fucking mouthbreather, then we would've eventually gotten a remaster for fo1 and fo2 by nightdive or someone else, instead it's gonna be forever first person garbage for the lowest common denominator like you + shitty spin off and tv series with terrible quality

How bad will Fallout 5 be?