any else getting toby fatigue?
Any else getting toby fatigue?
No. I'm only getting lazy remake fatigue.
He hasn't done anything besides this in like 4 years.
This is schizo as fuck. It's okay to just say the remixes are bad and leave it at that.
How is it schizo to notice intentional design choices of the original getting blatantly ignored?
why does the remake on the right look even more like generic rpgmaker slop?
Don't care
I can still play the original
any else
good morning sir i also hate the bloody toby benchod basterd bitch
I'm getting anti Toby fatigue
I've had Toby fatigue for the past fucking decade
You are literally NOT allowed to criticize this faggot
Game is in 4:3 with a widescreen border
Game becomes full widescreen just for battles
Literally why?
What did you smoke while making this pic?
The only thing I dislike about Toby is how much of a yurifag he is. You already did the quirky lesbian jokes in the first game Toby stop fucking repeating the same joke it gets less and less funny every time.
Making shit up
I have no idea what this is trying to say or why it's supposed to be bad.
Toby "Radiation" Fox
Toby "Stop calling me that" Fox
Toby "The baby is you" Fox
Toby "undertale" Fox
Toby "Megalovania" Fox
Toby "No more nicknames" Fox
They look the exact same?
Most "criticism" i have seen in this shithole is whining about muh plagiarism because some songs have similar notes to other songs
It was never funny
Sorry anon, you're not criticising Toby Fox enough so your reasonable criticisms might as well be pro-toby propaganda.
the assets of the original were built in a very specific manner so that they only made sense when positioned in the exact right way
imagine you have a poster you want to fit between a few picture frames, so you cut it to fit perfectly in the gap
the remake people either didn't notice this or didn't care, so they've put assets out of positions. it's moving the pictures and poster so you can see the wall in between and it looks off and wrong and once you notice it it's hard to not
I just think most of the composers Toby included failed to match the atmosphere and aesthetic of OFF with their songs for the most part that being said the new flesh made tango is actually one of the better tracks
The Annoying Dog schtick was never funny nor endearing
The idea of a man in his 30s still LARPing as his cutesy self-insert heckin doggo is genuinely gross
I honestly think he does it because it's easier for autists will treat him like a fictional character they can develop a parasocial relationship with
I respect his wishes, but I kind of just wish the original composer let him use the songs. Not having pepper steak makes me lose all interest in buying this version.
I think you're just nitpicking to an extreme level. The things you pointed out are completely pointless when you could have just said that the having the portraits is ugly
I think he does it because he's grown to detest the western community and doesn't want them to associate with his actual self.
yeah, it took a while for the image to click but I completely understand. this is REALLY lazy and now I can't unsee it.
And yet he still posts on Xitter in English and send English letters
i'm not that anon, just explaining what he's getting at
i suppose it is nitpicking, but not in the way that's usually meant
it's like... it's stuff only a mega-fan would notice or care about. but OFF is a niche cult game that is championed by mega-fans.
so if you're remaking it, and you don't care about these things, then you're probably not a mega-fan, so why are you even remaking it? you must be after money, or attention, or you don't give a shit. all that is bad.
you could have just said that the having the portraits is ugly
Not really, because that's not the point. I don't mind the new battle UI, nor the new battle system. I just care that if they're going to change it that they not be blind to design choices that were made with the original battle system's layout. The backgrounds are mostly a solid color, and they already cut out a chunk of the lower half's pattern to accomodate the widescreen. They can easily just shift the patterns around to fit the new menus. And Dedan's shadow is so very obviously drawn to work around the original's "BATTLE TIME" text, but now he just has a dent in his shadow for no reason other than whoever was working on it didn't actually care about the game enough to notice.
Does anyone else find it weird how the battle system more or less just seems to have just been given a visual update and nothing else?
toby essentially killed the rpgmaker scene and freeware in general by putting a price on his game
I will never forgive him for this
He's not explaining it well, but zoom in. You can see where the lines are, and the color changes look pretty bad too. I thought he was just a schizo, but this is pretty ugly
Imagine paying money for an inferior version of a free game that came out 20 years ago
What causes this?
As an example, all they need to do is picrel with Dedan's Shadow. Are they just afraid of "adding" to Mortis' work that much? I doubt it, adding 4 black pixels to what was meant to be an obscured shadow wouldn't be derided by anyone.
Damn nigga you are stupid
The problem shown here is pretty egregious, but this infographic does a really bad job showing what the problem actually is so I can see why everyone replying to you is calling you a schizo.
In the original, the shading of the background elements changes when it crosses the threshold of the UI. This effect was done by altering the color of the background on pixels where the UI overlaps with the background. The remake changed the positioning of UI elements and uses the same background, but it did not readjust the shading on the original assets, so the effect is broken. Rather than have the shading change when is crosses the UI threshold, the shading changes at seemingly random points. This is most noticeable in the bottom left corner where the background pattern has a random red line going through it and a random change to the color orange. In the original, the shift in color isn't random, the color shifted when the background pattern started being overlapped by the UI.
If anything, wouldn't there be more interest in rpgmaker in hopes of making ripoffs?
I get it now. I still don't care.
I'm gonna be honest, I didn't expect people to actually raise a stink about this for once
Every time Toby Fox does something particularly obnoxious like this it's always been shrugged off
Stealing sprites and just slapping a lazy color filter on them?
Taking samples, soundfonts, and all kinds of other shit without any credit?
Squandering an interview with Kikiyama just to turn it into a stupid joke?
Shoving mpreg fetish shit into Pokemon?
It's always just been
ha ha, toby chungus foxerino, what a quirky quirkster
without fail
What changed?
yiik got shit for this but not undertale
this, you could write a novel about all the shit he stole
when is he going to get called out?
latest tobyfag cope is believing that fangamer couldnt get the rights to dopefish
fuck off, even if the creators DID care toby is a fucking multimillionaire and could easily pay for the rights to a quick cameo
pure narcissism on his part for OKing this idea
this infographic does a really bad job showing what the problem actually is
It was my mistake for posting it in a toby hate thread instead of an OFF thread. I did want to do something like picrel originally but thought people would hate being spoonfed for something so obvious.
This is useful, anon
Thanks
The rule is basically
thing I personally like: PLAGIARISM = OK
thing I personally don't like: NINTENDOOOOO SUE THIS MAN
You may not like it but this is how it works in practice.
oes anyone else find it weird how the battle system more or less just seems to have just been given a visual update and nothing else?
Yeah especially given they advertise it has having a new battle system. $35 for essentially the same game just with Toby Fox smeared over it. It's more expensive than fucking Deltarune.
I get it now
All of that could be answered with "who gives a shit?"
Anon Babbleaggots here act as if Toby broke down into their homes and stole their belongings, meanwhile, ZUN, Pixel, Kikiyama, Mortis Ghost and Itoi don't give a shit that Toby copied some things from their games.
If anything, it's basically free marketings (although Mother is already popular)
There's some other small changes, but the fact it's still functionally the same really feels like they oversold it. At this point you should just play the Forgotten Dreams version. It rebalances the combat, which is a bigger change to the combat than the remake already.
The definitive version of OFF came out years ago already, play that instead
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is this the shit you fags mean when you go on about him literally copying @nintendo @fbi somebody do something
Most OFF fans will probably just watch a YouTuber like Markiplier or manlybadasshero or yippee Kay yay falcon play the remake anyways