Does a change of VA bothers you when replaying an updated game?
Does a change of VA bothers you when replaying an updated game?
Yes, because Persona 4 probably had the best VA cast.
no
Yes. It's one of the reasons I don't play remakes. I don't even rebuy originals' straight ports.
I'm not a dubfag, so in this case, no.
But I also don't buy remakes anyways because 99% of them don't do shit except censor the games anyways, so I won't be buying regardless.
eng dub
persona game
lol subhuman dubfags, meanwhile chad original audio cast is the same after 15-20 years for every spinoff anime basically every media
meanwhile shitty english dub changes voices between p4 and golden and like every spinoff, recently foudn out naota has like 5 dub voice actors lmaoo imagine being a fan of the dub of something that is constantly changing anyway
american va are subhuman, see their "strikes" and "unions"
persona 3 reload main cast didn't have the original VAs either, so why is this such a big deal?
Kind of but I don't really care about the P4 characters anyway
Nor will I play the remake
for english dub i mean, which i assume is what you are talking about
Wait a minute... I don't listen to English dubs...
inb4 the normalfag retard spams his bara collection of men in yukata
I need the Japanese game set in Japan starring Japanese teenagers to be American.
I don’t care but if they change Adachi I am not buying it
It's probably one of the last games where I actually liked the English dub. Oh well, I guess I'll have to deal with diabetes-inducing Rise.
Persona 4 is really one of the handful of “good” english dubs of a JRPG
I don't care about dubs but if they did this for the JP version I'd be mad and I assume the japanese would too, they havea much higher VA wank compared to here.
dub mongoloid
Get a lobotomy
No, unless the VA was extremely good. Which isn't really a risk with American anime dubs.
Original VAs are on strike.
They should be hired to work on stuff, despite being on strike.
I don't get why people expect them to be in any recent stuff.
Good thing it's only just the likes of Lowenthal, Baker etc. The low rent cast western markets were subjected too out of limited distribution more than anything. Thankfully the industry has progressed to the point of knowing the majority market wants the primary audio included.
I doubt it's a strike issue, those fags think that they're above animu dubs and/or they're just too expensive for Fatlus
thinks dubs are gay
doesn't know japanese
you're even worse than a dubfag.
I need Johnny back as Adachi, that's the difference between a day 1 buy and waiting for 50% off.
Laura Baily is expensive but she has always been open about loving Rise and her DAN recast purely being scheduling. Granted Yuri said the same for Yosuke and said he was told no.
it's back
Was the thread a few days ago not enough of an ass reaming from the entire board mocking you?
Only when it's the original voices that change. I don't give a fuck about optional dubs for illiterate people
kek look at this retard thinking the original language of all media is japanese. Sorry you are illiterate and need someone to read to you instead of experiencing the original
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oh yeah... because original VA is so much easy on the ears, faggot.
No. If anything they should be using samples of the casts voices from the original release to train an a.i. to just do their job cheaper. Then you can add whatever new lines you want, or rewrite the script however you please, and you avoid having to deal with their commie fucking union that tries to nickel and dime you for stupid shit like royalties.
Easily more talented than the latter two ancillary variations.
The only reason this news started is specifically because Yuri Lowenthal begged Atlus to let him voice Yosuke again and they said no
Atlus recasted everyone for P3 and will likely do the same for P4, it doesn't really matter either way. They probably just want the remakes to feel like a new start or something.
Atlus recasted everyone for P3 and will likely do the same for P4, it doesn't really matter either way. They probably just want the remakes to feel like a new start or something.
Future proofing for spin-offs as well probably. Cheap younger cast is easier to get back if they put out Q remakes or something.
VA got replaced! NOOOO!
It doesn't matter since the JP cast hasn't been touched at all. The only issue is wasting time on it in the first place.
For you subfags: Dojima's VA died, so he will be replaced too.
Get ready.
No. In fact I'm thankful to be able to play with original audio instead of forced to experience a fake version.
he thinks original language only means japanese media
lmao look at this illiterate retard
For you anons
Fixed your post for you.
Subfags don't understand Japanese, so they won't notice if someone get replaced.
Coming back for a role you've done previously you usually expect a fatter paycheck and Atlus probably doesn't think they're worth the money (correct)
How would they notice?
half of these guys are a part of Critical Roll by now and are probably making more money passively every hour than they were ever paid for P4. They won't care in the long run.
the singular schizo is trying to change it's shitposting tactics again
Kawaii
Dubfags watch anime voiced by the same 5 people so its really obvious to them when the voice is changed. imagine choosing an inferior version that prioritizes lip flaps and as a result sounds so unlike normal language. It's like watching aliens speak english. Dubs are only tolerable by ESLs since they aren't familiar with english.
Is that nostalgia talking or do people really believe that?
annoying faggot character
surprised when he sounds like an annoying faggot
What genius response will you enlighten us with next?
Yes, persona 3 reload felt weird to me because I’m so used to the og dub. For me Laura Bailey will always be my waifu rise!
Dubfags
cringe
buying remakes
even cringer
a ha! this our chance?
and these faggots thinks dubs are superior.
Persona 3 didn't have Jap Rise and Teddie's earrape in the sub
he unironically thinks Hanaza is the same as Hayamin
lol lmao even
Nostalgia and retardation. Personally, I genuinely can NOT stand Persona dubs since they keep the honorifics which makes them sound like some weebs doing a fan dub. Even asides from that, the actual quality of the dub itself is incredibly mediocre. There are dozens of good english dubs out there for vidya. Persona has never been that.
he thinks they should refer to their friends as mr yosuke
inb4 remove honorifics entirely
That would be even more ass backwards. Wasting time and money on inferior actors for inferior performances was always a mistake.
There are dozens of good english dubs out there for vidya
NAME 5
I don’t play with dubs because I’m not a secondary.
When the fuck did I say they should call each other MISTER and MISS you delusional FAGGOT? Show me where I said that right fucking now.
get a 4kids tier dub
get some garbage like
So glad you decided to work a summer job on the farm out in Baltimore
I'm your unc Don and dis lil nigga is your cousin Hannah
shieeeeee one whole summer
why your rents hating on you fr fr
let's stop by Walmart on the way home
Blazblue Continuum Shift
Metal Gear Solid 1
Sonic and the Black Knight
Dissidia
Metal Gear Rising
Xenoblade Chronicles 1
Resonance of Fate
Devil May Cry 5
Nier Automata
Transformers Devastation
I named 10. Go blow it out your ass. Oh, and because I know you will: I'm not saying the games are GOOD, so don't be a goalpost moving faggot.
All will be forgiven if they restore the Yosuke romance route
I play games while listening to music so I don't even know if the characters have voice actors
Yeah. I loved Laura as Rise. No one is gonna be able to bring her character to life like she did if she doesn't come back. Losing Yukiko's old VA sucks too.
DMC5
dub
HOLY
FUCKING
RETARD
based
Resonance of Fate
the fuck.... lmao
Give me 10 reasons why it's bad.
English isn't my native language but I'm never using faggot dubs
granted I'm bilingual but even then, anybody with functional ears can tell American """VAs""" are subhuman niggers
lost Yukari’s voice
now Yu, Adachi, and Yosuke
wtf
xenoblade (muh pissant theater actors www)
As long as Rie Kugimiya returns for Rise, it will be fine.
No one cares about English VAs. It does make me wonder though, are they going to make Kanji gay and Naoto trans even though neither of those things are true?
bend over to change story elements that were never true to appease the delusions of the fringe minority of a tertiary foreign market
It's a mystery
You say this, but the world we live in...
NTA but you're retarded if you think the original audio was japanese. thats why he outed you.
trvth
I enjoy voice acting and think that every game should have it, but with very, very few exceptions i never remember a specific voice, so i wouldn't care 99% of the time.
I fucking hate left wingers so much. They're the ones who defend the worst practices of every industry right now, but especially entertainment, and especially video games. Be it shitty VAs, shitty devs, shitty publishers, shitty artists, shitty writers, shitty moderators, it doesn't matter. They are on their side against the consumer whom they despise. Unless they're the mythical, impossible to find "modern audience."
It's fucking crazy how hard they defend the capitalist system they claim to hate against the people who call it out for it's bullshit. "Pay me more" but quality? Honesty? Integrity? Fuck that, and fuck you. You get whatever is shat onto your plate and you upvote it. Complain, and you get banned.
Imagine going to Toyota and asking that they not release engines that randomly catch fire, and be banned from all their stores for it. That's how the modern video game industry is.
english dub
No, only retards played the english dub.
oh but the PS2 version only had english audio
I played the undub version of the game 13 years ago if you're a tech illiterate retard and didn't it's your own fault
exactly man, fucking dubfags can’t even put the effort to get the true experience
Didn't P4 already replace a bunch of VAs for Golden? What are people so surprised about?
English VA? No, I don't care for them and I am elated when they quit or they lose their job.
It's almost like the EN fill in voices are easily replaceable or something.
Rie Kugimiya's Rise is the worst voice in sub though
imagine actually playing with English dubs
I wouldn't know shit about this EN drama if it weren't for these threads, and I'd rather keep it that way, so fuck off with your garbage threads
BASED!!!
Japanese or english? I have nostalgia to P4 english dub but lmao I'm never going back.
no you didn't you LARPing zoomer
yes he did, you fucking dubfaggot
cause most people didn't play persona 3 or even know what it was
innocent age-old discussion on subs vs dub
hmmmmm....how can I insert us vs them politics into this?
I hate you "people"
2012
release of p4g
"im going to play the undub version of the inferior version!"
nta but lmao no you/he didn't.
he isn’t wrong though
it’s the left that keeps ruining VA shit and I bet if they didn’t even exist, we wouldn’t be having shitty ass dubs
we would also have actual accurate localizations too rather than glorified fanfictions
No, because I'll be playing my favorite game for the first time. I hope Aleks Le voices the protagonist and uses his Shun voice from solo leveling, that would be so based.
A day in a subfag life:
"CHING CHINGO SUGOI KAWAII DESU NE SENPAI!"
"I don't know what she said, but damn this is FIRE!"
No I don't care. Especially now that they're usually mocapping the VA's I'm happy that we're getting different ones now. I'm fucking tired of seeing the same face and voice in every game.
still no argument
you dubfags are just sad
Dubfags only argument is literally that they cant read
be subfag
subs are tailored for the localization dub anyway
YOOOOOO, DEADASS THIS BE FIRE
Like trannies will never be a woman, you will never be Japanese.
No. Persona 3 Reload swapped out all the english voice actors and it was much better. The original VAs returned for side roles, usually ones connected to their original role in fact.
they’re always on their fucking phones or doing anything else than actually reading what’s on the screen, LOL
I’m not some weeb, you retard
I just respect the actual work the REAL VAs put into the game and not some faggots they hire off the street
What are they gonna change about Naoto and Kanji? I remember reading on Tumblr that Japanese people also interpreted as Kanji being gay and Naoto trans.
subhuman trash is having a meltdown after the board put it in its place over lesser English sub actors
I swear I’m having Deja vu. This thread was just up like three days ago
fuck off and die retard
How can she do both at once anon?
This thread was just up like three days ago
Anon Babble in general repeats the same exact threads day after day because nobody here actually knows how to start a discussion so they regurgitate shit they're familiar with.
Yeah a bit sad. Its the only one a played in english.
they hired noname cheap vas for metaphor and p3r compared to p5r and catherine full body
probably because of woke atlus west and sag aftra shit
No, I’m referring to something else. We’re reaching Anon Babble 2009-2011 levels of decline. Which is amazingly impressive for that cesspit and for Anon Babble is a shit containment board
Hey now, the og dub was plenty fine.
Voice actors are shit and dub voices are a cancer that japanese devs need to hard cut out though. Listen to the original and learn to read.
Trying too hard to fit in.
Listen to the original and learn to read
TRVTH NVKE
imagine on how much resources they could’ve saved if they stopped using gay faggot nigger ass retarded shitfuck english VAs
P4G ENG VA was awful so this is a good thing, I also don't care since I always play Japanese games with their original voice acting, I'm not afraid of subtitles like most amerimutts
get ready for naoto's eng va to be some tranny just like mitsuru's was
Shut up, newfaggot.
And you, knock that shit off.
BASED!!!
Are you...retarded on purpose? Do you lack reading comprehension?
Dubtards usually do.
I never got over Veronica Taylor and the original english dub team getting fired from Pokemon.
Mario gets his voice changed
Insane fan outcry
Now TWO very popular jrpgs that has a shit ton of dialogue changes their ENTIRE cast
No one gives a shit
Make it make sense
M-mario is the og v-voice though
So is Bayonetta? No one cared for her being changed either. All Maro does is "WAHOOO" anyone can fucking do that. Not everyone can fucking act though.
Ironic nintendokiddies are the only ones who ACTUALLY cares about the industry
god how funny would it be if they make naoto into a pooner with double mastectomy scars for the ending credits.
I actually didn't mind the original P4 dub and Teddie's Japanese voice makes my ears bleed.
faggot
Make it make sense
Nintendo fans are mentally ill.
Kuma?!
This shit sounds good to you?
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we'd still have them, we'd just be hearing them talk about stupid commercial tag lines rather than idpol agitprop.
We'd still have the "but you can't complain because if Working Designs didn't bring it here you wouldn't get it at all" fags.
who in his right mind wants to be japanese or a woman?
Why does a demake need new voice lines? That's the one thing that shouldn't need demaking
yes
Personally, I genuinely can NOT stand Persona dubs since they keep the honorifics which makes them sound like some weebs doing a fan dub
You sound like a gay retard. I hope you genuinely consider suicide. Please, for the love of god, kill yourself.
faggot
Will be playing in Nip, pretty much most of the cast will be intact, except those who have died or retired; this only affects dirty EOPs, so not really.
You mean a downgraded game, right?
Because they gotta change all the problematic parts. Kanji's gonna be gay, and Naoto will be a transman.
People actually care about Mario unlike your faggy, mediocre, overrated RPGs.
OOOOOOH SUGOI SENPAI-SAN, WE SURE DID BURGERFY THAT KONO BAKA DESU! LET'S EAT OUR UMMAI HIGHSCHOOL TOAST SO WE CAN MEET OUR KAWAII FRIENDS!
This is what you like, you immature faggot.
You're joking but it explains it.
P4 was totally fine. Can't they leave it alone and dedicate resources to other SMT games instead?
You're joking
fatlus has a long and full history of rewriting their demakes to be Current Year + (x) Compliant. I don't think there's any reason to consider this stuff as unlikely.
Reload Yukari is delicious and I want to adopt her.
kys dubfag
Mario had no reason to change, Mario speaks in generic sound bytes only and Charles said he recorded so many Mario lines including shit we haven't heard that they could easily re-use those forever.
I don't care about voice acting in video games because I read the dialogue faster than they can talk. I almost never wait to hear a line of dialogue finish.
I know it won't happen with the JP release but man I hope they replace Morikubo as Yosuke. Can't stand him.
The English dub of Persona is already unbearable to listen to.
All those characters calling each other senpai with thick Californian accents makes it feel like you've walked into some high school anime club.
Mario
Same VA for 29 years spanning nearly 100 titles played by hundreds of millions of people across multiple generations
Persona Cast
One main game and a handful of spin offs over the course of a decade to a smaller audience
Persona also has multiple language options not one single performance per character, and most of the series "fans" don't even play the fucking games
Excuse me anon, why does the anon have to be both gay and retarded? Please refrain from using both at the same time.
It isn’t impossible to be both.
Someone could be gay AND retarded. Hell, he could even be a nigger, too.
Depends. I would prefer the original voice actors if they're good. But in this case I simply don't care because the persona 4 English voice actors were pretty mediocre imo
Imagine being a dubfag
I hope they at least find a better VA for Naoto.
The fact that she's a girl is supposed to be a twist but anyone playing the English dub can see it from miles away because those VA's do not do a convincing job of sounding like a young teen boy.
The only one that fits is from The Animation dub
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Just how do they screw this up so many times? In Japan there are several voice actresses that specialize in voicing young teen boy characters yet in America it seems near impossible to find a good VA for these kind of characters.
They're probably going to keep the Japanese voice cast the same, and I only play P3 and P4 in Japanese, so if I ever end up playing this it's not going to matter to me. It is nice to see Yuri Lowenthal losing out on a job, though. Fuck that faggot
No... Who's gone...
English dub
Oh never mind, don't care
Yuri Lowenthal's Godawful voice
Fine
This shit doesn't matter to me, all that matters to me is if/what they'll change about the story/content. I've already seen Redditors calling the OG game problematic and begging for the remake to "correct" the problems.
Whenever an actor says they "love" a role I assume it's purely PR bullshit and they'll forget their own character's name within a few months
I mean if they reply to memes about certain characters a lot, put them up at convention signs, have them in their Twitter banner, they probably like them. Yuri has Spider-Man money so only reason for him to beg to reprise Yosuke is for love.
theres an inherent problem about americans and their dogshit taste every single time they have to play a game. they are incapable of playing anything the intended way, with the intented voices, and seek localization as if was objectively better. any dub lacks the original voice acting intention, regardless of playing undub having weeby purposes
If you didn’t play MGS in English, you need to stfu.
i enjoyed the TWEWY EN dub and consider it superior than the JP one though
Ironic that you posted a Japanese game meant to be played in English.
how many L can a dubfag take before seeing the light?
Random American high school drama club students are objectively better actors than any professional Japanese, Chinese, or Vietnamese actors. Somehow, in some way, only Koreans are able to actually emote and serve as good actors. Godzilla Minus One was ruined by the stone faced bug men taking up 99% of the runtime.
gomene anon you're right this time
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Clair Obscur
Baldur’s Gate 3
Metal Gear
Death Stranding
Sword of the Berserk
convince me faggot.
1. every mascot character sounds fucking worse in jp than in any other language
2. i can take off my eyes off the text every once in a while but with subs? lol
3. subs never matches what they're saying because its all localization for the dub anyway so you're basically just using jp for background noise
Yeah but I usually don't have to worry about it because I dont use the shit dub cast when I play my games. Honestly isn't it a bit late to care about the P4 voice changes? Isn't this the 3rd or 4th time they had to recast the characters? People are crying Erin Fitzgerald isn't coming back for Chie but she was hired to recast the original english Chie anyway. Dubshitters should really just get used to having their games have a revolving VA cast every game because the EN voice acting industry is a garbage heap.
What language are you speaking now, Pedro?
usually yes when it's obvious they sound different and probably worse because I'm not used to it
English, a language you apparently flunked out of in school and now instead of having a full time job you are wasting your life defending shitty dubs on Anon Babble.
i dont really care and im not a subfag or dubfag I will get the game for my wife Marie
I played it in japanese, i will do it again, could care less about this shitty drama
Had the best VA cast
Chie, Teddie, and Naoto say otherwise. Yu, Yosuke, Yukiko, Kanji, and Rise were well casted in the English dub as was Adachi.
This, the English VA for Paimon in Genshin Impact recently made a video and it confirmed a lot of what I've always thought about English VAs and why we don't need unions anymore.
It’s the weekend, Pedro. Do you typically work on the weekend? I guess those taco trucks don’t drive themselves, eh?
Yes.
the whole sag shit coming out lately because of genshin va's is amazing and really showing what a mob cult sag is
I have literally never played a single remake in my life, and never will. If I want to play the game I'll play the original.
They probably just want the remakes to feel like a new start or something.
Which would be strange if true because the Japanese cast will undoubtedly be the same outside of the two people in the cast who have VAs that passed away. I just don't understand why voice acting in America is so fucking weird and volatile.
You guys got the quick rundown for what happened or is this gonna be like an essay if ask about it?
You guys got the quick rundown for what happened or is this gonna be like an essay if ask about it?
SAG does a voice acting strike and demands that all projects with union VAs obey all union rules. Genshin kicks out the union VAs instead because they're easily replaceable nobodies. VAs cry about the consequences of their actions.
a lot of the votes for sag rejecting offers were done by sag people and the actual voice actors weren't allowed to vote on it.
I also read about scummy shit like if you were in sag but did a non-union job other members would rat you out and then you'd get in trouble and lose work and if I remember right something else about paying sag if you did non-union work too
Oh okay yeah, they got what they deserved.
That just makes it sound like a lot of work to join SAG. Sounds like shit for everybody involved.
not all unions are created or run equally and sag definitely sounds like a mob racket
dubniggers
Who gives a single shit lmao
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Dubniggers need to die.
I'm only playing in jap so I'm laughing at you shitheass
No.
The new voices of the SEES members in P3R are all objectively better than P3F's/P3P's.
If there's one character I think Yuri Lowenthal is great for that's Yosuke though, so I'm curious to see who will ATLUS replace him with.
SAG makes sense when it's big name actors fighting against big name Hollywood studios. It kinda makes sense when it's actual actors getting voice roles in big name AAAA studio projects. It doesn't make sense at all when it's minor-league VAs who are only hired because they're cheap in indie projects or foreign dubs. SAG's problem is they keep trying to force themselves everywhere which, if they got their way, could kill creativity and squeeze out the indie and small budget scene for all media, not just games. Small budget problems is how relatively new actors get their starts so they can get noticed by bigger name studios, and this applies to games and TV/film. Culling those small budget projects removes that pipeline for new talent.
english
and nothing of value was lost
I think Lownthal's voice performance is perfectly fine, above average for dub standards even.
The problem is that he got so popular that got casted to the default-shounen protag voice everywhere, and now if I hear him I get taken out of the game thinking "Fuck, this voice again".
He was pretty good as the spider splicer in bioshock 2
one one hand the P3 dub was awful
one the other it was just shitty direction and the VAs would easily have done a better job in this day and age
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posted it again award
No because a sane person would be playing in Japanese.
Same thing with Troy Baker and Laura Bailey. They were fine when they weren't in every other fucking video game between 2008 and now Troy Baker especially with his default "bad boy" voice he's used in 90 percent of the games he's voiced over the years.
localizers are either gonna push to change the script outright or sneak a lot of shit past the japs
Seeing how much people, even normies, can't stand the alphabet soup RESPECT MY PRONOUNS mafia in 2025, all hell would break loose if localizers made Kanji gay for the cock and Naoto a current year troon in a game that takes place in 2011.
Eh, mods will fix it like usual.
I don't believe you can hear the character voices in your head when you read their lines even though you can't read japanese. It doesn't make sense
I’m never in this situation because I don’t play with dubs. Don’t dub actors basically change with the weather? They never hold down their roles.
can we please stop ruining games with shitty fucking remakes already? PLEASE
They didn't with P3R.
P3 cast hung around a long ass fucking time. 2006 for vanilla, returned for FES and Portable and still did up up until Q1 and DAN.
Naoto and Teddie VAs were good though, the only bad one was Chie's.
Teddie gave me ear cancer and Naoto sounded too much like a girl pre-reveal.
Kuma was fine after he was replaced as the navigator.
JPchads know
I can't stand his voice at all. He sounds like shit, can't act, and he can only do his speaking voice in any role. His attempts to change his voice in the P3 dub were laughable at best.
Oh shit, who's gone, i hope its not Kugyu...
English dub
Oh, it's EOP stuff, whatever.
lol this
I HOLD OUT I FACE OUT I REACH OUT TO THE TRUTH OF MY LIFE
His attempts to change his voice in the P3 dub were laughable at best.
His Nyx Avatar was god tier compared to Aleks's.
he doesn't play with original audio
No, there are some voices I'm used to but Golden already ruined it by changing Chie anyways but you're a monster if you point that out but not this I guess so who gives a fuck.
he can only do his speaking voice in any role
Retard.
chad original audio cast
No such thing on the ps2
b-but muh honoraburu niponese-
You don't know japanese, fuck off
Don't care. They're all TikTok tier VAs. Fuck all of them.
EN voice acting
Not in the slightest. JP game = JP audio, simple as that.
he thinks they should refer to their friends as mr yosuke
No one on earth thinks this.
That would be even more ass backwards.
It would make complete sense that an ENGLISH dub wouldn't use Japanese honorifics, which mean nothing to 95% of English players.
I don't say this often, but Naoto's VA is pure sex
The new voice cast in the P3 remake were terrible, so my expectations for this one are at rock bottom. Why replace the actors at all?
I also can't wait for the dialogue to become worse like it did in the P3 remake as well.
Persona 4 without Troy Baker and Laura Bailey sucks.