FROM SOFTWARE WINS ONCE AGAIN
EASY "MOSTLY POSITIVE" FOR MIYAZAKIS MAGNUM OPUS, ONLY TOOK 2 DAYS
UPDATED /official/ TIERLIST:
S
Ironeye
A
Raider, Duchess
C
Executor
D
Bird, Wylder
E
Revenant
F
Recluse (nice tits, but horrible kit)
FROM SOFTWARE WINS ONCE AGAIN
EASY "MOSTLY POSITIVE" FOR MIYAZAKIS MAGNUM OPUS, ONLY TOOK 2 DAYS
UPDATED /official/ TIERLIST:
S
Ironeye
A
Raider, Duchess
C
Executor
D
Bird, Wylder
E
Revenant
F
Recluse (nice tits, but horrible kit)
Wylder should get a tier buff just for being fun.
Compared to Bird, which feels like driving a car through mud.
What should you do on second day for max efficiency? Field bosses only?
Also how the fuck do you get legendaries in this game
milk
Reclusisters...
For some inexplicable reason I am no longer racist and believe all people are created equal
I bet Recluse is so milk-pilled that she doesn't have to squeeze her tits to lactate, just rubs her nipples.
would you send this message to your parents
Yes.
Also how the fuck do you get legendaries in this game
The boss at the bottom of the central castle occasionally gives a legendary weapon. You can also get some fighting bosses in the volcano when that event happens
Is there a way to change starting gear
relics
No. No skill swap either. Gay as fuck.
tell me, can i bind roll separately from sprint in this game? i was just playing ds3 and remembered how much i hate the idea that you have to release the roll button fast for it to register and i dont remember if elden bing had this
some relics lets you start with certain items and change your weapon's affinity, but your classes base weapons don't change
is 3 always the max amount of relics you can attach to a chalice?
Red Bosses with Silver Fowl item pray for RNG
Thats what i meant by 'fieldbosses', redblue markers on the map
Is it just me or ironeye players don't aim manually for headshots?
I've seen relics that change your starting weapon skill
The castle seems to be the best way to farm runes as the crucible knights give a lot of runes and get bullied easily
Nope, count all 43k and its still 67
I stopped liking Souls games with 3.
What's this Witch's story? Is her model in game anything like her fanart?
redditors failed, just like with "saving" dragon's dogma 2
he thinks chinks matter
is this playable in randoms I doubt I could get two of my friends on at the same time to play, we never even got past liurnia in seamless coop it was like pulling teeth to get them all on at once
D-doesn't count
lmao
Fanart may be slightly exagerrated
Carrying randoms is also like pulling teeth honestly. Solo isn't fun. Idk.
mfw mostly positive
nope
People with zero tolerance for shenanigans will tell you it's unplayable with randoms.
the general consensus is that it's not that bad. you win some you lose some. after you beat the first boss you get put in separate matchmaking with people who have also beaten the boss so it gets better.
I play with RL friends, we only got the first boss down to 15% after 7 hours
This game is hard af but I’m having fun
Most people are playing with randos, so yeah
First expeditions will be the worst since you will be with the noobs and animals that try to do tree spirits and so on on day1, and run around like headless chickens
It gets a bit better later
Maybe the score will improve to about 75% eventually, but the game isn't particularly good, the map barely changes between runs, and it's the same bosses over and over.
Playable for sure; I’m not far in part because I want to play on and off with friends, but my first successful expedition was with randos. Probably helps sometimes to not have all 3 people trying to learn the most basic ropes.
If I scroll through the positive reviews they'll be four to five letter meme reviews meant to boost the rating
First boss is hell with randoms, for starters, he is one of the harder nightlords, and you're gonna be playing with people who aren't necessarily good at the game. It gets better.
Loved me ship
Loved me lighthouse
HAAAAAARK
bwos...
fromslop
fuck all lore
in a lore orientated series
That tier list is dumb, Executor is S tier if you know how to play and so is Recluse. Bird is F tier no matter how good you are.
did steam start deleting negative reviews?
No, they just don't count a good chunk of reviews
What other roguelikes are worth playing, I think im starting to like this genre
Tried already
hades
slay the spire
gordians quest
FTL
Into the breach
Any recommendations
First boss is the big filter. I've only beaten it earlier today, but I could feel the skill increase of my team mates in the five or so matches I've played since then.
If you enjoyed getting summoned for bosses in elden ring, you might enjoy this as well. I was considering to refund in the beginning, since it's pretty overwhelming at first, but the more I played, the more I liked it.
Noita
isaac?
a 7 on Steam is the same as a 7 on IGN -- it means it's a 4 or 5 at best.
And what did IGN give it? Oh right, lol.
RoR returns or RoR2. Though I dion't know the state of RoR2 after legendary shit dlc.
but most executors are ass, only rarely are they actually good
huge patch with lots of nerfs, free rezzes, and more estus flasks
score goes up
Holy shit the Dark Souls community is nothing but a bunch of casuals.
slightly exaggerated
the need to balance, at least the time took, on some of the pre nightlord bosses
Nameless King and the Crucible Knight and Gold Hippo take way longer than the others.
It didn't, look above. Its about the same as it has been for the past 3 days.
bro you're posting this like 3 days early
67.30 on steam
meanwhile on metacritic its even worse across platforms
psn and xbox store have it around 3 to 2.5 stars
holy shit people are pissed kek
Ancient Dragon is the worst fight of the game in both Elden Ring and Nightreign
Amazing
Stream use your solo Revenant and Recluse runs.
How do I email fromsoft to tell them that they should really really really shorten the “whOA I’m out FP” animation for staves and seals before I do anything unspeakable to their HQ
this. The first day we played, me and my brother only won once. Then the next day we won three times, two were even in a row.
Are you genuinely surprised? Most of the people are shitty streamers, brainlet Elden Ring players and normies. The genre is entirely mainstreamed and is just filled to the brim with low IQ brainlets
What we got:
poorly balanced cat herding babysitters club simulator with a bunch of bland classes and illusion of choice fartnite money grab
What we should've got:
randomized zone with random events tackling randomized bosses with incremental power grabs with each major boss defeated powering up the others with relics serving as build directionality tools, 1-3 player scaling
this game is doomed. nothing can salvage it at this point.
Not surprising, early sales data out of asia is that the PS5 version was the bulk of the 2 million sales and they seem was more disappointed than those one PC.
nameless and hippo are so obscenely easy with multiple people. the boss' AI has no idea how to react.
Should I buy this if I liked Elden Ring(300 hours) but dont like multiplayer games? or should I wait a couple of months for patches and updates?
Blue Prince has to be the most addictive one I've played so far. I couldn't stop.
why do the most retarded criticisms of anything all contain the words "money grab" these days
Stroke or jeet, call it
Binding of Isaac is kind of the OG.
Monster Train is also an enjoyable one though I feel the sequel is just kinda overcomplicated.
SWORN is a Hades clone set to Arthurian legend and it was pretty fun. Still EA I think but a fair bit of content.
Does the time rewind skill of the Duchess count for your team mates damage as well? And what about backstabs/ripostes?
I only tried her once and what I didn't like about it was the phantom version of the boss blocking my view. Got fucking rekt by the lighting abomination dragon, despite having found like 60% physical resist, to the point where I could survive more damage than our raider.
S
Ironeye, Raider, Duchess
A
Wylder
B
Recluse (Full voice comms)
C
Executor, Guardian
D
Recluse (Forma De Pub)
F
Revenant
Ironeye - Best character overall due to mark, great damage with bows, a strong ultimate, and the ability to melee with dex weapons. Do not sleep on using him in melee. Using melee during staggers/openings and constant ranged plinking when not gives him insane up time.
Raider - Best melee class, highest damage potential, most stagger potential. His ultimate kind of sucks but he is very tanky.
Duchess - Most consistent melee damage dealer due to insane dodges. Her skill is the best in the game due to being able to repeat everyone elses. She needs status or elemental weapons.
Wylder - Best ultimate in the game, best mobility in the game. Damage wise is a worse Raider but has more flexibility. Solid pick.
Recluse - Has high potential but she needs a team to actually help her get a good staff, upgrade it, hold aggro for her, and not constantly fuck up her skill. If she spams the right skill combo she has insane damage but lots of the time it is impossible due to retard mcfuckface hitting the boss with 1 holy damage constantly.
Executor - Bleed weapons are strong, he is the best at using them. His skill and ultimate are not good. His ultimate is good for bullying low level bosses and clearing camps.
Guardian - Best revive ultimate in the game, is nice and supportive, but Damage > Defense
Revenant - Pointless class. FP management is impossible for a caster. Her summons have terrible AI and just get AoE'd by the boss. She does no damage. Heals and support magic cannot be used on the nightlords. Waste of a slot.
Why not have a difficulty setting at this stage?
Just call it "filthy casual" instead of easy to make them feel bad.
Wait. Solo scaling doesn't exist and if you don't have 2 friends to play with the randoms are generally a huge pain. Balance is also all over the place too.
Yes it counts all damage. You use it after an ultimate, a bleed/frost proc, a critical hit, or even just some raider doing his skill/charged heavy. It has a very short CD. You don't get hit on her because every time the boss attacks you mash on dodge.
Nuclear Throne
normies
not normalfags
I just assume posters saying normies are actually shills nowadays forbidden by contract to not say the word "fag".
You actually have to be vulgar to be passable on the internet nowadays in the world of AI and shills. Start by saying "normalfag" like anons have been doing for 37 years now.
is this just a general at this point?
revenant in f
fuck you
how is he wrong?
i noticed the brainlets in these threads consistently attack words, post formatting, reaction images, etc. but cannot debunk any point against this slop.
duchess is climbing up the rank every repost
STOP
she is honest and I actually beat the game
Eh. I don't blame people. The word "normie" has genuinely entered the lexicon of the average person under, say, 40. I hear "normie" pretty consistently to the point that I think of it before normalfag.
patch isnt out
is this just a general at this point?
Soon. I think the stay of execution for removal to Anon Babble is usually 3-4 days and honestly the game is gonna be dead by then lmao.
I made the tier list, I beat every boss with Duchess. I always considered her high tier since my first match as her.
please please please argue against my buzzword verbal diarrhea
hmm nyo
Heals and support magic cannot be used on the nightlords
Why would you use support spells?
She does no damage
your discus of light? your thunderbolt? your dragon head?
Her summons have terrible AI and just get AoE'd by the boss.
they're pretty useless for bosses but they can take agro for a sec or revive the homies. they're VERY strong agains regular enemies and minibosses though.
FP management is impossible for a caster
FP relics for sustain throughout the run. shards for MP for the nightlord.
Sweet. Going put skill cooldown reduction on her then.
your discus of light? your thunderbolt? your dragon head?
Literally all equally as good on Recluse who has infinite FP
Binding of Isaac
Enter the Gungeon
Risk of Rain 1/remake/2
Dead Cells
Nuclear Throne
Monster Train 1
Time Wasters
20 Minutes till Midnight
Vampire Survivors
Brotato
Halls of Torment
Nightmare Reaper
Rogue Legacy
Skul
Voidigo
Wizard of Legend 1
OTXO
Noita
Boneraiser Minions
Children of Morta
20xx/30xx
Touhou: Lost Branch of Legend
Darkest Dungeon
Fights in Tight Spaces
Blue Prince
Knights in Tight Spaces
Dead Estate
These are off the top of my head there are so many good ones out there, way better than this game.
concession accepted.
I beat the game and most of the time my friend was on revenant (pretty sure he loves little girls but sometimes he played recluse) and I hate the big skeleton. It pushes you around and makes shit much harder to see.
Game is great I hope it gets more stuff. Making a new Elden Ring character and going through all the progression is kind of tedious and this scratches the itch perfectly for it. Also it has some changes that I think should be in base ER like blocking with weapons giving 100% physical reduction.
some anon on Anon Babble claimed +10 skill reduction is literally just 1 second so report back
Yes! we did it bros!
recluse is good because of her quas qex exort mechanic
this is some noob shit the cast times for all the spells are insanely long even the best ones (unlimited fp) last for a couple of seconds
recluse excels at consistent and high magic damage, you shouldn't expect to rely on getting the right combination of remnants
They supposedly fixed most of the issues. But they're going for another DLC so there's another chance Gearbox fucked up everything they've worked on for the third time. (I say third time because they've also been in charge of the console patches and those are basically unplayable and multiple updates behind all the time.)
Nope, redditbros failed
Do the relics that buff rune generation for self and allies stack?
ror2 is one of the worst roguelikes ever made. You can safely discard the opinion of anyone who says it's good.
What does it mean when a cat stares at you this long?
They remade Risk of Rain?
I got the DLC, they fixed the base game and its surprsingly better than it was before as they fixed old bugs that were never adressed. As for the DLC, they made major overhauls and the new items are either unique and make for some good builds or straight up powercreep stuff that were the best in the base game.
good job I guess. have fun for me, I'll maybe play this sloppa when it's on sale I guess. still holding out for sekiro 2 here.
well, in my heart its overwhelmingly positive, and thats all that matters.
Nightlord weaknesses
Holy, Poison, Fire, Lightning, Frenzy, Lightning, Fire, Holy
6/8 bosses weak to common incantations/faith weapon arts
Frenzy incantations still more likely than vyke spear
Nightlord weaknesses stagger, debuff, outright prevent party wiping attacks and deal great damage
Revenant ult is the best revive in the gane
BIS relic gives party wide rune acquisition buff
Revenant tier: E
There is no fucking way this character is E tier with all the utility and DPS you shit out
Make it make sense
3.5% extra and they stack even on the same person
Shut the fuck up
Is this game fun to play solo? All my friends are Souls fans but it's hard for us to all be online at the same time.
starting to like
Not sure if you liked FTL, but if you did, check out the multiverse mod for it. It's a huge overhaul mod and basically an unofficial sequel.
Yep, and its a good remake.
I wonder if that is worth using. Dedicating all 3 slots to it gets you 10.5% more souls. If all 3 people did it that would be nearly 33% which then seems good.
good, fuck plebbitors trying to shill this. just like with those dd2 fags and they thankfully failed to rise that game back to very positive and its still in mixed hell where it belongs
but DD2 is a blast! I love that game.
If you're a normie, no. if you're some spastic no hit run parry only tismo probably. game is perma scaled to 3 players, even solo and many of the night lords are built around being fought by 3 people.
Weaknesses are such a meme. I wasted 20 hours doing specialized builds with 1 win total. The next day I said fuck that shit and beat 6 bosses in 5 hours by just going retard damage completely disregarding the weakness.
It's fun and playable even now solo, but shit is pretty difficult, even with Executor making it more manageable. Playing with randoms is a lot better than the shitters here make it out to be as long as you use the map pins or just follow the retards on their merry tard quest to murder the map. Definitely play with friends when you can or even just do two niggas and a random for a better experience. Playing solo does bring down the boss health significantly, and there are more solo buffs coming in a day or two
solo as in getting on multiplayer with randoms ya its fine.
solo as in playing the game by yourself, no u fukkin retard.
The problem is most other characters ults also revive, AND do more than that. And I've been trying to use revenant more to find a good niche, but the summons aren't impactful enough in the actually hard fights, and the damage feels mediocre for the shortcomings it has in hp. I would rather be any other character on a night boss or night Lord, at least recluse has s in int and fth and is self sufficient on mana.
No you don't get it.
Former Anon Babble lingo is ILLEGAL in many countries and in breach of contract for many orgs.
So now you HAVE to say it otherwise you are a literal bot or shill to me.
By fighting the lingo, they've ironically reinforced it.
Thus, watch at it will now slowly spread around the internet as a counter to bots and shills.
I've already seen it in places it was normally banned in because of AI spooking people, at least.
kill
Why is Revenant so low? Are you a dumb idiot?
They shouldn't have held back the SOTE bosses/weapons for DLC which is obviously what they're doing. Some of the more unique weapons from SOTE popping up every now and then would make runs feel more different.
hes justba racist chud hating on the ebony kween
Fight horse, no lightning
Party wipes to AOE
Fight horse, lightning
He gets staggered before AOE and keels over in record time
Seems good to me
You don't need them all the time but if you go in sub 14 it's way better to have it than not.
I'm convinced the Revenant naysayers have never played with a competent one.
Day 2 of being filtered by the fucking bug duo with randoms. Absolutely insufferable.
I just want the Mesmer soldier spear desu, can’t live without it now. They fucked up the deathbird ritual spear so I need something good to substitute it
try out playing with randoms
expect people to run off playing solo
had nothing but positive experiences so far even when we're getting rekt by some elite boss in a tight ravine
The marker system takes a bit getting used to, but the map system works pretty well.
"this is how it feels to stare at a pussy in the face for too long"
"this is how I feel"
I'm convinced the Revenant naysayers have never played with a competent one.
her summons are useless for bosses and the other anon pointed out recluse has the same scaling in faith.
if you just consider their effectiveness for nightlords recluse is signifcantly better.
If I was able to beat Sekiro, does this mean that I'm better at vidya than at least 90% of Anon Babble and should therefore excel at NightReign? What am I in for?
Why not just make this a fucking expansion... period?
This could have been good if your rewards carried over into the main game.
You probably play with randoms, huh? Since almost every boss has a "do this much elemental damage as a particular mechanic is happening, and you get rewarded with a stagger or moveset alteration" moment, you won't really notice how essential effective damage is unless atleast like 2 players in your party has it. Every time my group has 3 effective weapons it literally feels like cheating
I think people focus on the summons too much, day 3 you're dumping your FP into the Nightlord with 4+ star shards in your inventory using the most effective incantation you have.
If you have a good spell that applies the boss weakness you have absurd damage alongside your other utility.
Only Raider and Guardian have a triple bar revive that comes close to Revenant.
You'll be able to solo all the Night Lords ez.
i will never finish revenant's first remembrance quest
it's gonna be okay, the game you've never played before can't hurt you anymore anon
She's a high execution character like Recluse, but even more so because of how much that execution is reliant on her summons. She might be good if you know what you're doing, but ultimately you have to ask why you're bothering to do all this when you get just as good, if not better, results with half the effort on another character.
Holy fuck. They knew exactly what they were doing.
Why the fuck does recluse not start out with a weapon? Not a staff an actual weapon. Ran outt of fp before finding a weapon? Better go run the fuck around or go back to your grace
So out of the loop here. Haven't been on Anon Babble for weeks. What's the consensus? Do we like Night Reign? Are we having fun with Night Reign?
Are the stats like +3 strength on relics worth it at all? What makes a relic good?
You probably play with randoms, huh?
yeah...
these are the type of shitter faggots leaving negative reviews.
day 3 you're dumping your FP into the Nightlord with 4+ star shards in your inventory using the most effective incantation you have.
recluse does the same thing except infinite mana, a better ult, etc.
The summons are what make the character, but they're dookie for lords.
You’re always gonna spawn by a camp, grab one and use your cocktail skill to manage FP
Yes. We love Night Reign and all things Elden Kino here.
we like it right now but if the review score keeps going up we'll stop liking it
I was wondering the same the first time I played her (on my 2nd run), but thankfully I bothered reading the in game explanation before embarrassing myself online.
what’s there not to love? its pure fun video game with no western faggot propaganda.
>Revenant ult is the best revive in the gane
does it just revive someone if you use it near someone?
who's the worst boss and why is it LIBRA
how do i into executor? do you just parry?
The summons aren't all that important but they're not useless, it's still three less attacks per rotation directed at your actual party members if you aren't resummoning them to dodge attacks.
It’s good, fun even, my biggest issue with it right now is that it’s essentially a different game from the original, so there’s a lot of weird shit like really long animations for when cast but ran out of FP
The night bosses are all sorts of wacky, I’m surprised nobody here is talking about them, fucking Smelter Demon is back baby
One of the retards who tried to defend it
Crapcom abandoned it like a cheap whore, still laughing at you cucks.
why spec into elemental weaknesses LOL!!!
go into jellyfish nightlord fight
dont bring elemental so you cant knock jellyfish out of LOL FUCK YOU move
guaranteed teamwipe due to retarded sleep move if you aren't playing guardian with a all resistances perk
because if any of your teammates dies even once, you know the gameover is likely coming
Don’t just parry man, use dragon spells cause he has an A in arcane and it helps your bleed procs, use beast as a finishing move or clutch save rather than opening move
why is it impossible to find a match for the darkdrift knight
My experiences have been fine. largely only 1-3 games where I had some solo tards. The problem is more along the lines of the game wasn't made with the average souls player in mind. you can only carry and compensate for retards so much and while they may stick to a group the average player is quite bad the nightlords generally demand everyone be operating with more than 1 brain cell.
its trash
crapcom
capcom and fromsoft are the best developers still around. they are both carrying the industry on their backs. get real faggot, imagine being a nigger like you and disliking both. I cant even phantom what turd you play and enjoy.
magnum opus
calm down spazz
It's a massive AOE buff that auto revives and prevents you and your allies from dying for 15 seconds. I have no idea what the range is, if there is one.
You wanna know the mark of a great player?
They’re skipping the intro and door cutscene, that’s it, that means you’re not playing with some lobotomite
some anon on Anon Babble claimed another anon posted a spreadsheet about the stats. supposedly +3 str is literally just +3 dmg onto a weapon.
realistically ER does not need a new expansion. The game is already huge and SOTE is also very beefy. If you haven't played in a while and want to use a light greatsword or something on a new save it's going to take you 20ish hours of fucking around just to get one unless you're looking stuff up or you remember everything about the game for some reason. The whole strength of Nightreign is you get ER gameplay (with some changes) in a much smaller hour long package. A standalone game makes a lot more sense than an expansion pack.
sry, bro, i was taking a piss
i use it for pottying. theres not enough idle periods in this
The first boss is the great filter, being very difficult for new (or bad) players to deal with since it splits into 3 periodically and then ganks the fuck out of people when they're weak. If you can manage to beat him with randoms and unlock the rest of the bosses then you'll be fine.
they made cerberus the gatekeeper
kino storytelling again
ITS 2/3 JUST SKIP IT PLEASE
Augur. You will hate your life fighting this piece of shit as melee
gotta take a bong hit
the 2nd boss, the dragon thing, should have been the tutorial boss. he's far easier than the dog.
Bring a bow or have a recluse smart enough to bring lightning in
Augur is really shit to fight though, his body moving up and down just dodges most spells but melee range isn’t so bad until he does the AOE
we're pissing and grabbing snacks so technically it's 1/3
Nightlord FP is irrelevant, you'll never cast enough to burn through 4 star shards.
Revenant is giving your party 10% more runes and a way easier day 1 and 2 to get there.
I'm not saying she's the best, but E tier is saying she's basically unplayable when she has a high ceiling.
sry bro i need to admire your custom skins on match start
says this after crapcom released Monster Hunter Milds
lmao
I compared two iron eye setups and it looks like main scaling stats>flat physical increase.
I don't have any data, but it would make sense that better weapons that you find in game also profit more of their main stats.
Everyone needs a range option. IDK if it's just an uncommon move but at like a quarter HP the nigga dropped a sparkly jellyfish that floated to the ground and screen wiped all of us from full. no, not the big aoe sleep move, a straight up screen nuke. i alone could not damage it more than 20% with my bow. we got along all having bows just fine for the boss till it ass pulled this move.
just move the fuck away from the egg if you have no range
Sorry, I'm using door time to take a sip and mentally prepare for battle
Yeah we got wiped by that move on my first try, I didn’t have lightning, that didn’t happen on the second though
because every other character is better
It's a screen wipe. I was just shy of max range. y allies were even further chasing after the boss obviously unaware that this move was even a thing like me. it can't be outranged. It also can't be mitigated bc I was a raider with talisman and element d/r and 2x HP%s. The boss' wave attacks didn't even hurt me but like 10% and this 0'd me from 100%.
Not nearly enough duchess posting
yeah idk if not having lightning was the issue or if a lightning bow will damage it a lot more or insta pop it. it was definitely my best attempt yet, however we cleared all the bow places and no lightning bows dropped so IDK what I was supposed to do about that in the event that lightning does somehow mitigate or prevent it.
This is your father speaking - I'm proud of you and I agree that the Recluse has big sloshy milkers that she probably needs to massage frequently
i tried to kill it multiple times, every time it exploded because I was the only one in the team doing damage to it
moving the fuck away worked, maybe I was iframing it properly every time, but that's unlikely
easiest three bosses to get the in a row achievement?
I want to stick my tongue right into her nostrils.
IDK maybe you got lucky with an iframe because our ironeye was literally on the opposite side of the screen and got gibbed.
Idk everything I’ve fought so far was hard won, augur took the least amount of tries I guess, followed by seltas queen and then dog, haven’t tried the others yet
libra is literally a dragon ball z fight except you're yamcha
She's worse than recluse in every single way sadly. The summons are a joke and that's literally all she has as a leg up on darkie.
she makes the easy part of the game easier
I guess, but even that is not really cut and dry. summons are good during the day but are they better than infinite mana and starting with actual spells? probably not.
10% extra runes!
even if that number was right I don't think it would come up to an extra level.
This tier list is mostly correct but bird should be a little higher. And duchess and executor a bit lower.
FUCK lmao, it’s either him or the monster hunter dragon. I saw that webm anon uploaded in a different thread, Libra was acting up like rajang
I don't think I will bother.
Elden Ring is my favourite game and ... I don't think I will bother with this one.
How did this happen?
I wanna lick all the sweat from her body, god DAMN!
Is there any reason not to just run
2x ironeye
1x raider
every run?
Seems like the meta setup that vastly outperforms everything else and easily fucks up all those bosses that just run/fly away all fight
realistically ER does not need a new expansion.
I probably agree, but this game needs something right?
And it would payoff for the struggle a lot better if it were like that.
Right now there's just ... nothing?
Except for masochism.
This tier list is mostly correct but bird should be a little higher
You are the first person, maybe ever, with this opinion.
Jolly co-op without the summoning hassle.
Anybody treating it as anything else is retarded.
Unironically this game gave me hope for the switch2 one since it will be mew assets and learn from this one mistakes.
yeah. the reason is fun. Ever heard of it? Would be different if the game had some type of leaderboard.
Anybody treating it as anything else is retarded.
People have been saying as much about the DS2 DLC co-op dungeons and they're still ranked as the worst parts of any game from people soloing them.
Iron eye just feels boring to play to me. I don’t have an archery fetish. Sheboon houseniggers on the other hand…
fun and interactive
this. and Duskbloods is pve/pvp. I'm excited. Going to be a long ass time until it's actually out though.
Some people are trying to gaslight the rest of the population into thinking the jeetbird is useful or some shit like that
Because I think in terms of utility and actual usefulness in a group as opposed to "HURRR BIG NUMBIZ FUN FACTOR DURRRRRRRR" and if more people would step back and think in terms of what group dynamics are the most effective for clear they'd give the incredibly hard to kill aggro hog more fuckin credit.
Is he S? No. Do most retards LIKE playing him? No. Does that mean he isn't one of the most effective tools you can have for making fights possible? Fuck no.
Ludo aggro management, I WISH that happens to me
after 20 minutes of bullet hell
slopbox
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Imagine having all these archetypes/nightfarers in the MAIN game instead of Nightreign?
How cool would that be?
Why is it not like this?
Sure it might break things, so make it a new game + thing then. It could have been really cool.
Instead... you get fucking fortnight. I don't like fortnight. If I did, I'd play fortnight.
Genuinely based, thanks
Yes, retards are in fact retarded. Tell me more.
Recluse is good, perhaps even the strongest character in the game, most people are just too shit to use her.
srry needed to grab a new bic lighter for my crack pipe
Game is what, 5 days old?
kek
I recognize that slop, back to Mt. Moon with you!
loli recluse
I will forgive the use of AI because of how based this is
I'd give recluse slop if you know what I mean.
like i get it a instant revive for a 3 bar is nice but it's basically gimping yourself to compensate for a run that is already probably bricked if it needs that.
raider is a better melee.
raider is a better tank.
raider is even a better ranged.
guardian is just gimped as fuck. literally no reason to play him outside aesthetic purposes
IMO i feel like that is the eventuality. i think ashes were a foray into a skill system and this was the trial run. it would be a neat system to add onto future regular entries but they would need to do it in a way that is a loadout system or pure player controlled customization so we aren't just shifting more importance onto a start-of-the-game class decision guiding it.
but more over i really hope this is also a sign we could get more inhuman characters. i definitely wanna be a bird nigga in the future.
raider is a better tank.
No he isn't and you know he isn't. His damage mitigation cannot approach guardian, stop deluding yourself. He also can't get a boss' attention as easily as guardian can. The one thing Raider is overwhelmingly better at is the only thing that actually matters to you, which is damage. Guardian under pressure will outlast Raider nine times out of ten by the time you're at Nightlord and you need to admit that to yourself.
but he feels gimped
I do not care how he feels. I care what he does. You should too.
The main game really needs this level of character model variety, I'd love playing as a Hero/Barbarian but with the Recluse model. So beautiful. From games need a boob slider.
blocking is worthless when nigbosses are spamming aoe the floor is lava on the ground nonstop
It helps you hit level 15 sooner.
even if the number is right
Retard, just read the numbers off it
How do you hit 15 though? Farthest I’ve gone is 13 and that was with two world bosses + castle
what would claude's nightreign strategy be?
Get a good party
Wylder (based), Executor (Cringekino), Ironeye (meta slave)
Everyone playing well
Only one person calling shots, moving as a coherent unit
Make it to dog with 12 levels and good equipment
Push its shit in down to 20% hp, no one even downed yet
Somehow, it lines up the perfect fire sword explosion and gets a triple kill
I am mad, but only a little
this game's ending made me a little bit emotional
Die to "disengage" dangerous enemy encounters
I have played many bird games and many raider games. I always reach the nightlord with raider with at least at least 2x hp buffs minimum, and 2-3 phys and/or magical mitigation. plus his default mitigation stats per level is higher.
in all my bird games (10+) i have gotten HP buffed twice and only 1x element mitigation.
maybe i am supremely unlucky but it just seems like raider gets more passive tankiness consistently.
as for my experience with both -- no. with all the above aside skill wise raider is still tankier. retaliate basically zero's damage out and even besides that the damage and stagger it doles out alone dwarfs bird in usefulness. aggro is controlled by consistent and/or burst damage where as bird is a 2 trick pony -- revive a baddie or finger your butthole behind your shield while your stamina drains and you do nothing.
Tankiness and hard damage > no damage and very brief 100% mitigation any day of the week.
Last two runs we I played shitrolled the map with our extra runes from Rev relic, summons and good coordination. Day 2 we rinsed the castle and the mountain.
Just kill field bosses if you roll trolls in the castle it's a pain in the ass to do. Ideally you get crucible knights since they drop the most runes. Banished knights are ok though.
We would've hit 16 if they put it in the game.
nearly kill boss
felt like a pretty great run
post game recap shows a teammate with just one weapon and their starter gear
It's almost every run too, why aren't people picking shit up? Even if the passive isn't amazing it's better than an empty slot and we're always hitting a ton of spots so I don't believe they didn't see even a single good passive on an axe or dagger or something.
guardian cowers behind shield, assuming boss doesn't ignore him and run off his stamina is done in 1 second
meanwhile
raider chad combos with 1000% poise, gets attention, then retaliates, then chad combos again, then iframes ult, then chad combos again, then retaliates
your yiffbrain is clouded
Is the fourth night lord the easiest one to farm for the 3 win streak achievement?
I've been getting only FP related buffs as a birdguy for the last 3-4 runs. This game hates me.
It was melancholic
yeah i'd get a ton of FP/miracle+sorceries buffs.
Happens to me all the time. People simply don't realize how passives work, I don't think the game mentions it.
It has to be 3 different nightlords. I would start with a hard one since failing it doesn't matter, then do Maris+Gladius.
auger
fuck no too many screen wipe skills
gaping > dog > pest
get fucked hehe :)
They do state it in the tutorial
I seriously want to slap the dumbass at Fromsoft who thought that giving Guardian block frames when dodging with the shield raised was a good idea, that stupid shit got me guard-broken and killed in more than one occasion
I love my Revenants. Raider + Revenant is a great combo.
saving up all my currency for the dark piggy raider
i really want havel but i don't see myself beating this game
It was a thing you could do in Dark Souls 2 that I guess they really thought needed to be brought back. In this game it does buff your guard block while dodging, though.
EASY "MOSTLY POSITIVE" FOR MIYAZAKIS MAGNUM OPUS, ONLY TOOK 2 DAYS
But Miyazaki didn't work in this spin off, he is busy working in the Duskbloods as is his personal revenge against Sony.
when you play with someone leading who knows what they're doing
We just went on a rampage around the map and nonchalantly hit level 15 with leftover to buy a bunch of flasks. Maybe someone had a rune buff
ATTENTION RETARDS
HE SUMMONS SIGILS IN THE SKY TOO, BRING A RANGED WEAPON SO YOU CAN FRENZY HIM
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION
it's way smaller than you'd think, about the size of guardian's ult zone, maybe even a little smaller. I had two guys die and couldn't even get them both with it.
I have been finding executor great as I get used to him. Just go all in with a bleed sword, never actually fight with the cursed parry sword. BUT when it comes time for the boss to attack you, just unsheathe to parry (that counts) and start tanking. I find it easier than just regular dodging because of how lenient it is. And also only go wolf mode to heal or revive someone, or to rape an easy boss by yourself at the start.
Someone isn't using whirlwind, and you're both underestimating guard stance. And yes you're supremely unlucky, I usually have a ton of mitigation and block bonuses on bird by the end. Raider is better overall but Bird is very good at what it does, which is piss off bosses and not die and insta-revive occasionally. End bosses have a shit ton of HP and being able to last longer and let the other two work is invaluable
and when you combine all the reviews unlike that outdated slow as fuck prompt its still 67 kek. hopefully duskbloods is good
You're still racist, you're just fetishizing black women.
whirlwind? you mean the skill that literally does less than a melee swing? kek
wait you can stack characters?
Speaking of revenge, how Sony ended up having absolute ownership of Bloodborne anyway? Everything else is owned by FromSoft except Bloodborne and considering how ANGRY they are over that how it happened in first place?
you sure can
FromSoft except Bloodborne
demons souls enters the chat.
Generates threat like a motherfucker, try using it more
but it's not doing damaaaage
This is your problem. This is why people whine that bird is trash tier. Because your brain only registers the dopamine hit of DPS and nothing else
i loathe fromsoft and its fans right now, elden ring was so mainstream that zoomers tainted the games with stench. any fromsoft game now = garbage and slop
Everything
They don't own Demon's Souls either and that is because both games were half developed by SCE. Its actually incredible how so many people think they barely contributed when they were instrumental in both game's being made and finished. That's why they remade Demon's Souls as when they closed SCE down Sony of Japan failed to keep around its programmers that knew the game's coding, same with Bloodborne and decided it was easier to just rebuild the game from the ground up and use it as an excuse to sell PS5, maybe PS6 with Bloodborne remake.
whirlwind generates threat like a mother fucker
me when I lie.
you mean SIE and yeah, its also why kutaragi, the man who made playstation oversaw demon's souls and did the infamous showcase where he deemed it trash.
it wasn't him directing that insult at from, he was insulting SIE as it wasn't the first time he was harsh on them. of course he got proven wrong but yeah everyone knows that.
There are no class limits
i use it on cooldown but you seem to have a tentative grasp of how aggro actually works in this game.
I'm with the other guy guardian is fine
the block stance uses like 20% of the stamina you can block for days then get out of there, it's great for buying time while your other shitters keep dying. ult is a great revive.
and what, you guys don't know how guard counter works or something? I never had much issue doing damage. The whirlwind is definitely the best skill outside the bosses, too. just flips every mob in the game.
MIYAZAKIS MAGNUM OPUS
Didn't make that game
i use it on cooldown
pic
how aggro actually works
Never said it glued the boss to you but if you're using it, it absolutely makes them focus you more often. I mainly play Raider and Bird and Bird has an easier time getting targeted especially on highly mobile targets where Raider struggles. Much of that is due to good whirlwind usage.
Actually try using it as often as you just said you do, it helps
while your other shitters keep dying
I'M THE TANK GUYS I'M HELPING
It's what's in hand only though.
Where is the porn of the Duchess with the Wylder? I NEED IT! BECAUSE IT'S INCEST!
unironical bird brains
I'M THE TANK GUYS I'M HELPING
Actually yes, ours just held the crawler thing while we zapped the bug.
But Birdman is cool, artists ignore him, though.
literally any class can do that.
you win the game by doing nigger damage into the boss, not by hiding behind you cuck shield
the longer the boss is alive the more bullshit he can throw at you, eventually the team is going to run out of flask and it's over
Not so effortlessly.
This has to be the most random fanart I ever seen.
No, I get it.
before they fuse the nigga crawler literally just bites, swings claw, or charges. utterly effortless to dodge.
seems like the raiderchads got this one, birdboys.
I bet you fail like 80% of your expeditions.
Everybody trying to be the big dick and failing miserably.
slowly suffocating is how you lose
you simply run out of resources, this is just how this game works
I mean its existence, did you expect a fucking pokemon crossover with elden ring fanart?
it makes me mad that dragonite is birdman.
extremely high attack
main move is extreme speed
I had this reaction to Cia from Hyrule Warriors.
I always felt like Cia would jokingly/kinkily lean into being "your black slave" as long as you were down to do evil overlord shit with her.
I never played the original ER. What's the strategy for godskin duo? These guys are filtering me more than any nightlord. Do I just run away until one of them does their big flashy super move?
git gud
unironically
It's only a damage reace for shitters
I figured they were retarded but I humored the argument. Having done so, I stand by what I said: move Bird to C and Executor to D. And maybe put Duchess in B also. Stopwatch is great but I question her consistency outside of that
he plays in a premade
you didn't beat the game
Now I'm interested.
t. 200 hours in snowrunner
Nope, randoms.
Nice cope, though.
IMO they're more aggressive in this. in ER when they're content you have pillars to mitigate the roll and nukes.
She is tone of black that is impossible to have as a skin in real life.
so what's her story? Is she waifu material or a slut?
yeah, tell me more about consistently winning with randoms by prolonging fights, chicken fraud
even if you play perfect, they are just going to run out of flask and hit 3 stage revive
it doesn't work
cant matchmake with mountaintop shifting earth for augur
Whoever designed this matchmaking system should be killed
Use sleep pots on them as they can be fully slept and while they're dozing off you're free to buff up then start reaming their asses with charged R2s
One thing I've taken away from this;
From should eliminate ammo management in their next game. Bow is actually fun to use but managing arrows in the base game is aids. Just make the different ammo types an item you equip
hurr but then [powerful DOT] ammo will shit on everything else
Then make it act like a coating, temporary buff that lasts long enough for you to get a proc off, or just make its raw damage shit so its only for status building
Bird hating retard.
She created the Night Lord, but if it was through a natural birth or magic ritual is something I can't say.
prolonging fights
Fights go faster when all three spend more time fighting and less time on the ground. But your retarded ass thinks this is a pure DPS race so you wouldn't understand things like taking pressure off and allowing your teammates to work
all this big booba mage slut fanart
Is her booba canonically this big, or have coomers gone too far yet again?
what "pressure off", retard?
more than half of the nigbosses' moveset is spastic AOE spam
do you even play this game?
people will get hit regardless
okay so what is the actual intended strategy for this game?
feels like i'm barely scraping by, even with no retards on the team, everyone ends up being level 10 with blue weapons and we cant seem to find out what we're doing wrong
killing field bosses/gaols
finding good weapons
killing trash mobs for levelling
and it's still not even close to get to level 13 which seems to be the spot for a good boss run
am i genuinely retarded or is it the games fault
Sorry, sir, no fun allowed.
get more estus flasks, get weapons of the element the boss is weak to, hit up mines for upgrade stones.
Make sure to use those rune-boosting items before landing a killing blow on a boss.
Also, besides levels, having the boss's weakness is the single most important thing. Bosses are near impossible without them.
what "pressure off", retard?
Not even sure if I should bother reading the rest of your reddit spaced bullshit with this nitwit start.
people will get hit regardless
If you don't think that it matters who the boss targets the most I question if YOU even play this game.
She's literally the same as every other from girl, but with a low cut dress.
reddit spaced bullshit
what's not what redditspacing is, retarded newfag
confirmed delusional chickenbrain. stfu.
arguing with the man who thinks whirlwind has secret aggro properties.
The only winning move is not to play.
I hit 11 when playing with retards so maybe you're just not routing efficiently enough
Man of culture, I see
what's not what redditspacing is, retarded newfag
confirmed delusional chickenbrain. stfu.
The fact they split the playerbase into 3 seperate queues is absolutely retarded
Non-remembrance queue
Remembrance queue
NG+ Queue
Good luck getting any matches after you beat the game and are trying to do remembrances. I sat in queue for 6 minutes, disabled the remembrance and then the queue popped instantly. Fucking Fromsoft
Why do people pretend that recluse is a nigger?
>NG+ Queue
huh?
NG+
srsly? like after beating the super nightlord or all of them?
there is no ng+, it's bullshit
She's a sweetie behind all the malevolent sorceress jazz.
The world may never know
I feel like the more bosses you kill the more compentent teammates you start to get. Getting through the first 3 bosses was a nightmare of retardation but now the matches are pretty fun now.
But also I changed my mindset and fuck off from the group to do my own thing on the first day so I don't know if it's related. The bosses are way too spongey for me to know if I'm carrying the fights or not.
If From decided to completely turn to shit and sell out might as well finally add dating sim stuff everyone have been jokingly asking for.
I cleared all but 3 bosses with randoms
Nah they’re definitely bigger than the basic female model
felt the same. but maybe people are just getting more competent in general with time
She literally has the biggest booba of all from soft girls.
How the fuck do you get mana on Revenant, how do you make a caster with NO FUCKING MANA, FUCK
Yea the only bosses u really had double with are the first two maining the gaping jaw, after him all the other bosses where a one shot
Uh bro, your starlight shards??
people are just learning more, wiking, reading guides, etc.
on Friday no group I get would go to the mines
Now it's common
bosses weaknesses
What like headshots/weak points? Or do you mean elemental, in which case is there a way to know who is weak to what?
Also FUCK dragons in this, they are shit to fight at the best of times, but when you have time pressure, I cannot afford to deal with a faggot who flies around landing on top of cliffs. Stop fighting dragons
You get put in a “guy who beat the game queue” Thats why you don’t see people with the dark souls skins on until you beat the game. Once you beat the game you can’t help the shitters stuck on the dog, you can only queue with other people who have the same idea.
tfw I kinda want to play this shit but none of my friends do
Give it to me straight, bros. How miserable is it to play with randoms?
When you pick a boss it shows the weakness right next to its picture
it's fun and it's filtering all the shitters who spammed broken AoWs and had friends help them clear bosses in base elden ring
Just make a new character if you wanna help the people getting filtered by the dog.
intro cutscene
2/3 skipped
last person skips 90% of the way through the cutscene
this shit makes me platinum mad. Happened the last three (3) runs in a row
my one and only legendary weapon was off one.
...it was a shitty godrick's axe BUT THAT'S BESIDE THE POINT.
After the first two night lords it gets much better
have to pick your battles and you can't just brute force every field boss that looks your way
can't summon an overleveled friend to beat the game for you
have to be competent with the pve, you can't just ignore everything
have to know your role in the party and build towards the nightlord
this game hard filters the exact sort of player I hate the most and it's based for that.
anyways, executioner can sekiro deflect fucking dragon breaths.
I want to see our skins anon
so, wait, what happens if I keep saving for the 36k skin for Raider? i was doing so anyways. 16k to go. will i just be a unique snowflake?
pin church
everyone goes to it
pin camp
everyone goes to it
pin smithing stone tunnels
everyone runs in the opposite direction
Why are people so averse to them they take 3 whole seconds to get through.
You can kill it at 9 or 10 if everybody's not retarded. It'll just be slow.
Keep wiping, keep learning the bosses. You'll be carrying in no time.
my groups have been slowly adding it in more and more. i just think a lot don't know the benefit.
Recluse's mommy and baby plot made me sad
I wish I could have this
How many of you ONLY play with randoms? I don't want to hear "Yeah I mainly play with friends but I play with randoms a lot of the time XD" no, who here ONLY plays with randoms.
How is the game with ONLY randoms?
i just think a lot don't know the benefit
I'm one of those people. What's the benefit?
hopefully all this shit can be backported some way or another, would spend another 2000 hrs on that game most likely. if bosses can go full-on anime on your ass i should at least be able to double flip and unli bow to counter that shit
The worst one is when the church is in the water and then they try and take the big mob near there instead of going to the tunnel for some free shit.
Give me tips for playing Revenant right fucking now, fags. Please.
smithing stone +2 so you can upgrade a magic wep to +1 or a normie weapon (with a merchant's stone) to +2
Dropping the boss down there guarantees a smithing stone to upgrade your weapon to max level
It's fine but a lot of runs wil be dead because they don't know the boss.
Just think how many times a host or phantom has ate shit on a souls boss and you could do nothing about it?
Yeah, that at the end of like an hour. You can pick them up though so it's carryable, it's just work.
I only play with randoms. It's fun, but most of the time you'll lose due to unluckiness and incompetence with the pinging. The storm legit closes too fast so if everyone in your team isn't speedrunner-tier, you're fucked. The game does not forgive dilly dally not even for a second.
It's alright. You meet a lot of retards, like I had an Ironeye that tried to kill the overworld dragon at level 2 and then died in the middle of somewhere after. My other teammate got tired of dealing with his shit so he disconnected, but we kept playing and we were doing quite well, we even manage to get to lvl 11 before the midpoint of day 2 but then we tried to kill the castle boss which was a lot stronger than I was expecting and killed us both a couple of times and our run effectively ended there.
For the guys that this game is made for it's fucking great. For people like me who aren't interested in MP only games. It's a fun watch if you have a good streamer that knows how to play this game. JBros you know who you are.
There's nothing to learn about a boss that hops around and dashes from offscreen, and every other issue that came with OG elden ring bos design. The real issue is the domino effect of one person dying and everyone else collapsing because of the sudden rush of aggro, especially when split into 3
watching end of doll remembrance
game crashes
I've told you already, git gud.
he's stil on doggo
Ah, I see how it is.
There's nothing to learn about a boss that hops around and dashes from offscreen
shitter mindset, you're ngmi if you keep blaming the game for your shortcomings
She does not have any black characteristics and her skin color doesn't even exist irl except for very rare cases
Need more people to reach further into remembrances so we can get Wyldr x Dutchess incest art.
does anyone else's game freak out and start stuttering when the notGaping Dragon nightlord starts spamming electricity everywhere?
If the two other guys you're playing with aren't in the same room as you. You're not playing the game right. Simple As.
BRING BACK LAN PARTIES!
Believe it or not Hitman World of Assassination has an awesome roguelike mode which admittedly I haven't played in a while since the update, but it was super fun. That game in general deserves way more attention, it's one of the greatest games ever made and it feels like nobody knows really knows about it.
I like it. The only round that I didn't enjoy was with two premades who never used the map markers and went on some inefficient schizo route across the map.
People play through the main games by dying repeatedly. A lot. So bosses are going to be tougher, but also very rewarding when you finally get them. Also it just released, so it'll probably get easier as more people get accustomed to how to play.
I beat gladius on my first run with randoms. competency varies, but as people get filtered or learn the game the quality of randoms will go up. if you're really shit at the game, just grabbing a decent shield, pulling aggro and not dying is enough for someone to carry.
I hope they don't nerf strong characters but buff weaker ones instead, I'd like to see:
Executor stance skill "parry" window increased and make the sword a little longer, either make the dog form tankier or make it so that the skill has a separate HP bar from the regular form so that you don't die but revert into human form when it runs out with a small invuln period as it reaches 0
Give revenant a small but constant FP regen, something like 1-2% FP per 3 sec or make it so that she regains all her FP when she ults. Make her passive summoning proc off of other characters kills as long as they are close enough to her and make her active summons tankier or make them regen HP faster when they are dead, make kills heal her active summons
Give Wylder some more baseline poise
Buff the fuck out of Guardians current whirlwind skill or replace it with something else, buff his passive so that all shields gets a flat 10+ guard ability and add the "Draw aggro while blocking with a shield" baseline to his passive, speed up his preferred weapon animation while he is one-handing it
are the frenzy camps just a noob trap or something? I never get frenzy shit out of them, even when playing as revenant
Guardian is bottom tier
Figures.
Executor has a relic that lets him heal when roaring in dog mode. It heals a lot, enough to tank through nightlord damage.
uhoh, here comes the dark souls pros that screech at everyone not used to their jank. Maybe if you guys would play real action games like DMC and the like you'd know what a nice battle system feels like. And you STILL haven't given actual advice to who is playing the game proper but is running into a issue with the boss. "Learning the boss" is not advice, thats like saying "push the buttons". But what am I to expect from braindead darksouls fans.
Why did they even bothered putting an MP bar on recluse? her MP is effectively infinite.
Yup, solid half second freeze or something.
Hasn't killed me yet, thankfully.
don't worry birbbro, you shine like a diamond in coordinated groups
Wylder does not deserve to be on D tier with the shitty bird
he's a solid C. nothing special in his kit but nothing bad, got a good skill, ultimate, and passive
ok thank god it wasn't just me. Thought my gpu was gonna blow up
I'm still trying to learn this strat but stack as much ultimate charge as you can with the rememberance relics and get a fast weapon and a spammable incantation (preferably something with boss weakness). You can prioritize Rises for FP related buffs.
I think the best gameplan is try to spam your ultimate art as often as possible because it makes your summons use their ultimate skill as well. And with relics you can make yourself explode for damage as well.
been with randos for the last two days exclusively, was supposed to hit up my old high school buds but i didn't feel like it. if you've played left 4 dead it's the exact same shit, your runs are at the mercy of the weakest link... and usually that's me lol
nothing special in his kit but nothing bad, got a good skill, ultimate, and passive
so does guardian, you're point?
TFW mostly play guardian
I don't know when I play him the expeditions just work
Maybe I should try raiser more but his pillar feels like a hindrance for the rest of the team.
I also play recluse a lot but without a good team it's just hell
How the fuck do I deal with madness goat man.
Game was basically impossible the first several hours, and I can understand how frustrating it must have been for people while they angrily typed negative reviews. I just kept playing and things started clicking. It's now one of my favorite games ever. I genuinely hope they don't abandon it and continue to build off what they have it's really really fun once you understand what you're doing. It's definitely not for casuals I will give them that, but I hope they don't overdo it with changes to make it easier.
practice playing 2hus
fighting nightlord
both teammates down w/ 3 bars
"time to clutch it out!"
die
there's no worse feeling...
By being mad yourself
day 1
get an elemental weapon from the ruins, ideally something the night lord is weak to
get flasks from churches
get somber stone from mine if you can but that's lower priority, depends on if its in the circle later
kill smaller camps
day 2
get flasks if you missed any
get somber ore if you didn't
go to castle to kill off crucible knights and get talisman drop
this has worked well for me
I always end up accidentally never using it waiting for a clutch moment. the few times I did try to use it strategically there was always a better chance to use it for a clutch moment 2 minutes later
finally beat dog
Feels good.
Not gonna lie though, I still don't fully understand it, because this isn't the highest level I've been here at and he went down super fucking fast and smooth. Nobody even went down.
I had double purps and holy damage so I guess that did a lot, don't know about the boys since the end screen doesn't show equipment rarity.
it's guaranteed getting DLC with more nightfarers and nightlords. There's plans to add a duos option as well, and supposedly they're gonna add another map in a year or so
muh DMC
More cope.
Learning the boss IS the advice. Patterns, where to dodge, when to dodge, when is it safe to res, when is it safe to push damage.
You can't expect a list for every single boss.
So how the fuck does the upgrading sistem works? sometimes I get a "mastered equipment" message and when I reach the merchant at the end I can't upgrade those weapons
Use vyke's spear against him
I only play with randoms. It's ok.
Really kind of depends on how you find the game (and other Soulslikes') multiplayer fun though. I spent a lot more time in Eldin Ring joining people's games just to help them out and found it fun, win or lose.
If you're ok losing a lot more games than you win and can have fun just with the moment to moment gameplay, it's fun. Meta progression isn't "super" important, and you get relics even if your run fails, so failing runs isn't the end of the world.
Really would like a solo mode (or mod) that makes it so fire only contracts when I press a button, just to take my own time and better learn the map and craft routes.
Holy staggers him ALOT so it helps if more than one person is using it
He's weak to madness. Usually, there's a frenzy event that will give you guaranteed frenzy gear in his stage. If there isn't, then your team needs to be good at breaking the sigils when he tries to power up (lol good luck with randoms).
Haven't played yet, but is the game really that hard or are you all just shitters that suck at vidya?
that just means you can use uncommon, rare, legendary weapons. It depends on your level
is the game really that hard or are you all just shitters that suck at vidya?
what do you think?
That just means you can equip better gear 3 you can wear blue gear, 7 purple , then 10 gold
Upgrades need sotnes, bought or found in mines.
The mastered shit is fully unlocked stat wise. They're level locked to an extent but usable before that level.
it's the usual fromsoft trial-and-error bosses but you can't practice them because it's a roguelike
so it's hard, yes
playing with randos is part of the fun imo. having runs where we wipe day one because everybody split up and acted like retards makes it all the sweeter when you get a team of people who know what they're doing and you all have synergy. if you're somebody who expects to win every single run and will rage on every loss, then playing with randos isn't for you i guess
It's hard, this game requires friends to play it.
To filter out people who can't figure out her special.
I love one-shoting enemies so I can't replenish my FP. It's the best feeling ever that you can get so powerful that you become useless without your teammates.
playing revanant
fighting jellyfish, he's low
have self res item and ult is charged
team wipes
I get my self res but I'm really far away from my teammates
have to sprint through some touhou bullshit carpet bomb to get to allies
res team
get boss to a sliver of health
full team wipes to one of the nukes you have to destroy before they hit the ground that we weren't paying attention to
If you think of it as purely supportive you'll end up never using it, even though it does no damage (without relics) it does make everyone immortal so its still a go time skill.
100% this.
I hate the tryhard optimisation at all times ethic.
I'll do whatever the others want and mostly just mark a gaol when I've got a key.
I can see why people think it gets boring fast if they've just gone and tried to optimise everything so that every run is the same bar what bosses/events.
the people by this this game are the same ones who raged at ER on day one because they ran to magritt immediately and refused to explore more to level up/get better gear first
forgetting someone?
she's not real so it doesn't count
Dear lord, I've slept on Carian Slicer for way too fucking long with Recluse.
Me, my only friend who's into souls games didn't boughted it yet so I'm playing with randos. In my experience of around 20 runs you either get completely incompetent niggers who don't pick up more than one weapon or get lucky and coordinate shit with knowledgeable people, trade weapons and talismans, get boss weakness elemental weapons and so on.
Matchmaking pools
Tricephalos (New player)
Tricephalos
Tricephalos (Crater)
Tricephalos (Mountain)
Tricephalos (Forest)
Tricephalos (City)
Gaping Jaw
Gaping Jaw (Crater)
Gaping Jaw (Mountain)
Gaping Jaw (Forest)
Gaping Jaw (City)
Sentient Pest
Sentient Pest (Crater)
Sentient Pest (Mountain)
Sentient Pest (Forest)
Sentient Pest (City)
Augur
Augur (Crater)
Augur (Mountain)
Augur (Forest)
Augur (City)
Fissure in the Fog
Fissure in the Fog (Crater)
Fissure in the Fog (Mountain)
Fissure in the Fog (Forest)
Fissure in the Fog (City)
Equilibrious Beast
Equilibrious Beast (Crater)
Equilibrious Beast (Mountain)
Equilibrious Beast (Forest)
Equilibrious Beast (City)
Darkdrift Knight
Darkdrift Knight (Crater)
Darkdrift Knight (Mountain)
Darkdrift Knight (Forest)
Darkdrift Knight (City)
Night Aspect
Night Aspect (Crater)
Night Aspect (Mountain)
Night Aspect (Forest)
Night Aspect (City)
Also every single one of the pools but with Remembrance active making you the host and the only people that can join are people not doing a remembrance
I don't think that is fair, she is literally a giant.
Dang, you own those games and are still too dense to see how jank combat in dark souls has been after the first one. Maybe you'll actually play them from the humble bundle pack you begged from a gift thread.
You can just run away from that you know? Also stand still when it trying to put you to sleep
seeenjoy doing 30 minutes of filler then meeting a boss and getting wiped, instead of a usual corpse run in decent dark souls games.
Remembrance active making you the host and the only people that can join are people not doing a remembrance
This is legitimate so fucking stupid it shows up in the fucking map normally
yeah kind of feels like the "shifting" variants should be randomly determined after a match is made, not preset. it's gonna be too hard to find a game in a few months with how things are split up now
souls fatigue, they've made the same game like 10 times
This game needs a global queue I'm so fucking sick of waiting half hour to get paired cause I need to beat the fucking dogs with the sexdoll and ain't no way in hell am I gonna be able to beat the centuar with randos.
So braindead, what were they thinking
Still coping?
Is little Timmy getting frustrated at being stuck in animation lock?
wait are those all separate queues?
a lot of the difficulty is in coordinating with randos, it's not THAT bad when cooping with people you know (assuming they're decent at ER and aren't retarded). first boss is the hardest because you're still figuring stuff out but it gets more even after that
Why would I be frustrated in playing good games? I'll leave the pigs like you to roll in the fromslop.
You forgot that people who have beat the game get put in a separate queue from others
This is DS2 levels of obfuscated matchmaking.
Yes. If you get mountaintops get ready for 15 minute queues because it's fucking awful and everyone just immediately turns it off. Day 3 of a game with 300k players and you cant get matches
Don't worry, somebody will carry you through doggo one day.
I've beaten all bosses but I saw the frenzy event twice. Super rare.
Bro didn't even mention the bird.
Nearly half of the playerbase hasn't gotten out of the tutorial yet.
Fucking grim.
host leaves when we all die at the end of the game
puts you by yourself crawling until you leave yourself
I mean you barely get any rewards anyway for a failure but come the fuck on
I beat it in 20 hours with my friends. We're all souls fans though so it went smooth. There was a part where we legit downed 3 back to back.
Mountaintop is fucking horrible but I need it for my bird man
Dont you get penalties for leaving?
No? Why would you
Holy shit that's so fucking egregious and also explains why it takes almost an HOUR to form a party on the THIRD FUCKING DAY of the game's release!
Multiple remembrances can't be active at the same time.
Can't get matched with people also doing remembrances
This is some genuine BULLSHIT
Because many played it for a few hours and then uninstalled/refunded it, there are many games where this is the case.
real answer: cats stare at things they love. if they're not doing anything else then it's them just enjoying being around you. cats are very autistic.
In most situations the remembrances aren't an issue since people are just doing most stages normally the first time. It's just completely fucked for Revenant because you cant matchmake with people that haven't beaten the first boss after beating it and nobody is going to be doing the first boss a second time without doing it for the remembrance.
So you have 10000 Revenants all hosting their own rooms but there is no pool of players to join them since why the fuck would they.
Lies. My cat is secretly plotting my painful demise.
boughted
saar...
Bird = Guardian dude
Having a good run, randos are competent and everything's going well
suddenly, locusts everywhere
where tf are we supposed to go to stop it? We don't even get an indication on the map.
your cat would never be the same if you died
it's boring slop with little replayability
I had to google it. Apparently if you look up you can see where the trails are coming from and find the boss there.
Well that was super easy.
want go get a cat
don't want some shitty kitty that'll scratch me or shit in the sink
where can I find just a nice cuddly cat?
Good. Now kill the rest
Nameless King is ported over from DS3
Still named the Nameless King
Five bucks this causes fifty million lore videos to claim that the series are connected now and pointing to some rock texture that was reused in both games as proof.
Gameplay-wise I fucking hate this Monster Hunter gem hunting bullshit. Advice online seems to be "Put this (specific buff that's very good) on your chalice."
Aw jeeze, guess I'll keep rolling and having less fun until I get it!
I enjoy lore stuff, but I'm happy I'll never be austistic enough to watch a several hour long video about some shit that the creator literally says he leaves holes in for peoples imagination to fill in the blank.
MIYAZAKIS MAGNUM OPUS
he didn't direct this one
Also stand still when it trying to put you to sleep
WHAT
slept in the bed
no more shifting earth events
ever
how do i get them back
Yea it’s fucking retarded and the opposite of what you normally think you should do
I use the cutscene time to adjust my tenga cup that sitting on my erect cock
Nameless king is bullshit and is almost as difficult a fight as some of the nightlords
I’ll enjoy soloing the dog after the patch. Then after that I can play online.
Why Japanese devs are incapable of making a good and balanced multiplayer game? This is not even a PVP game, but it's so fucking gimmick and retarded that is not even funny, i still can't understand why a fucking fortnite wall in a PVE fucking game. I can't see this game lasting more than 1 month, even with DLC, there is so little variety for the roguelike aspect too
stand still when it trying to put you to sleep
bullshit, you just stand still and it doesn't put you to sleep?
I kept getting him before whichever Nightlord is weak to lightning, which was a Very Fun Time™ for everyone involved. His health pool is way too high for a 2.5 phase fight.
solo is already an option. things are tuned down to be easier but it's still way harder without teammates to share aggro and revive each other
still on the dog
How fucking RETARDED are these fucking randoms? What DUMB FUCKING IDIOT pins the churchs immediately, ignoring everything else? What retard fights a field boss on day one? What retard picks executor and doesn't deflect? FUCKING NIGGERS GOD FUCKING DAMN IT I JUST WANT TO PLAY VIDEO GAMES FUCK
70%
From fell off...
Haha anon you suck
nigger EVERYTIME there's a wipe I'm the only guy with one third of the circle, everytime. and these dumb niggers need to be revived at least five times man fuck this game why can't I find competent people.
Screw meta, who is the most FUN character do you think?
For me, it's unironically Ironeye, most people haven't picked up on his ability giving you fat i-frames
I don't know why no one else os playing recluse, she absolutely melts bosses if you use her magical cocktail properly, and her ult is literally a free heal and mana bar for the whole team, not to mention how good her dodge is, I think you guys might just be bad at video games.
also so far I've had the best luck abusing her lightning + fire + magic cocktail for the gravity magic explosion, so try that if you're new to her
People are sleeping on Wylder
wait for opening on nightlord
grapple hook in, spam some heavies
run away when things get hairy
repeat until ult is charged
free boss stun
I regularly knock the nightlord 4-6 times making the success rate of my runs skyrocket because of the free damage me and my team gets from Wylder’s consistent stagger damage
COOP games with randoms are more frustrating than PvP games that are not depending on a team. Either try the game on solo or just quit, something that i might end up doing very soon desu since the game is starting to get boring and repetitive
That's not even all the reviews, its still at 67, it just takes days for the system to catch up.
u ain't nuthin but a hound dog
cryin all the time
Stop being so bad at video games.
I’m terrible as him but Executor
I play Wylder when I want to actually win
who are you quoting
You can do perfect blocks with the samurai sword guy so I think you'll probably enjoy using him
Screw meta
Play ironeye
Lmao, recluse and revenant, but I prefer the raider More than once I have been able to save the game by using his skills to interrupt bosses or break their guard.
Not quoting anyone just left it at the end explaining what I think works best with her so far.
they should introduce pistols so i can go full-on bloodborne with duchess already
Test it lol
rushing churches isn't a bad idea unless they're literally on the opposite side of the map. they're usually on the edges of the map and you'll be zoned out after first circle usually. bigger problem i have is people not caring about churches or mines at all
I found a relic that gives me an extra charge of it. It’s fucking amazing
yeah definitely not D tier. most people playing executor for muh samurai rp would be better served playing wylder. most of them dont' even bother with the cursed sword or choke the parrying
every time I've played recluse I get an ironeye who rushes an electric weapon so I'm not allowed to engage with the magic cocktail mechanic for the rest of the match.
This game is such a miserably balanced pile of shit that im already just using cheat engine to clear all the content. This wouldn't have happened if I was allowed to refund. I will rape this game and lie about beating it since nobody else in my friend circle thought this game was worth it. You will never know who I am.
couldn't beat the game so he had to resort to cheating
You are weak and cowardly. Live knowing this for the rest of your life.
duchess for me, love being able to zoom around. feels great to backflip over some big boss attack
Honestly want to cheatengine in some Relics just to avoid the grind and start having fun. Grinding for mats has NEVER been a good way to spend time.
Should have torrented the game, my nigga
Play in co-op, that's what this title was created for. It's not the same as Dark Souls or Elden Ring, where you can finish at level 1. I completed the game in less than 3 days playing with randoms.
Electric is needed for all the best mixes though, just get your other elements in when he isn't attacking, it's all about timing, though I do agree it can get tiring if the element swaps a hundred times and you don't get what you were going for, but the other mixes aren't all that bad, with the exception of most of the holy ones.
Most of the relics are trash and have some many junk stats that it feels like im playing diablo 2.
the fun of roguelike games are for you to be mega OP with your builds
make almost every single build to be shit and worse than base game Elden Ring
are they fucking retarded?
Man that's fucked in order to even START the revenant quest line you either need to be lucky enough to do tricelops or manage to beat one of the hardest fucking bosses in the game.
imagine trying to play this when playerbase plummets to 10k
kek
I have found games with nothing but knuckle shuffling retards who run off and die inside mines as the rains consume them. I have seen weapon thieving negroids who steal equipment that doesn't remotely support their spec. This is the most miserable random co-op experience I've ever fucking had the displeasure of suffering.
how do you ping a weapon? I saw some guy do it but he didn't reply when I messaged him
go near it, hold Y (on xbox) and then click right stick
thanks
What works for me
day 1
Castles, temples, evergaols (temple usually has the chest with the key for those), churches, ruins, avoid castle in the middle
day 2
Marked purple big enemies and whatever you have left inbetween them. These dudes drop the good weapons
Regularly end up lvl 13-14 doing this
Nah just like the game and you gave me the answers I needed.
Anonymity is nice if you don't attach ego to your posts. Thanks mates
I put the password as Anon Babble and the people I got were braindeads who got wiped from the first fieldboss. I didn’t expect much but damn
goat is impossible without ranged weapons to shoot down his sigils before his buff
bug duo are very tanky, spam projectiles and have a ton of attacks that knock you down or are impossible to use guard counter against
Aren't those bosses a bit overtuned? Also, I really don't like how lightning spears overshoot the centaur unless you attack from the front.
Y/Triangle+L3
use erg instead as the people of that general are actually good at the game
Stop chasing the fucking flasks and shit camps on day 2, there's so much better shit you could be doing than running back and forth across the map.
If it's on the way, fine. But don't go out of your way to them, christ.
Now you know why people were so vocally upset about SotE
Day 1 mid castle isn't terrible if people know how to clear it quickly. People usually just run up the stairs to kill one or two giants and fuck off.
Issue is the randos 1) get lost 2) split up and die to different things
Not worth the risk imho. If you have people with brains to clear it swiftly its good value tho
The amount of times I've sat waiting for them to follow up that jump after the first giant is absurd.
And then they jump down and get fucked
People had issues with bug duo ?it's super easy compared to Adel you just melt it with fire spells,the big one barely move
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