What would you expect from this?

What else does the series have to respect? Besides what you mentioned. Music, I suppose.

rollslop

They never made a good 4NIAR title. They were so bad at it that their most popular "game" is only 3NIAR and nobody ever even talks about the gameplay except for the arbitrary progression system, which they can never extrapolate on because they're just parrots trying to justify their obsession with mediocre wankbait as high art.

oops i meant to write 3 not 4 in my post, i agree with your overall sentiment still though.

can I get vs final fantasy xiii

More action slop.

Considering that they struck the GoT iron while it was frigid I'm expecting a brown and bloom shooter next.

Streamerbait

If they use the Rebirth framework with some tweaks, then it will be absolute kino.

Whatever they decide, I am buying it on day one.

Bottom of the barrel shit. If they produce literally anything else it will beyond my expectations.

They SHOULD do an FF9 style throwback game with unique, colorful visuals to reignite players' passion for the series but this anon is probably right it's gonna be another "handsome brooding guy does a politics" game

E33 flopped in Japan and it is not an amazing seller anyway. Nightreign outsold it in a single day.

SE won't change anything.

To be a crossover between FFVII and FFX (X + VII = XVII), because we all know that they both are set in the same universe, it will the final part of the FFVII remake saga, Cloud will team up with Tidus to defeat Yu Sephiroth

If they're gonna make it an action game they should just give it to Team Ninja.

I'd prefer that they used Clovers.

13,15,16 and remake all had these lifeless models and faces, i hope they do a total makeover and go away from the realism-anime style or whatever

A focus on childhood, FFXVII follows a party of children couriers forced to work as smugglers between two kingdoms, one of future tech and one of magic and wizards. The magic kingdom has dominated the other one, seeing them as inferior secondaries and have them in a 'reserve' similar to a zoo. The story starts with children as smugglers, bringing magic items and knowledge to the tech city until something goes wrong in a lab during the delivery and it explodes. This gives the children access to magic as they begin a revolution.

After the first half of the game, you lead the revolution and encounter the king of the Magic kingdom, only to find out that the pantheon of gods ordered the tech kingdom to get limited for everyone's safety as the Tech kingdom launches a mega nuke to obliterate magic kingdom, pantheon sacrifice themselves to protect the party. In their weakened state, they inhabit the party members.

Second half is going to annihilate the AI ruler of the tech kingdom. Game ends with both kingdoms destroyed, small independent cities rising from the ashes, and the party wandering the lands to help whoever needs it in the post game.

12 also had that

Rebirths gameplay, basically

Do a complete surprise to everyone and just do a new FF Tactics but as a numbered mainline game.
So instead of 4NIAR it's 8N (or just the FULL party) on a grid.
I could also see them try and rip off Xenoblade Chronicles if they wanna go to something less action-y but trying to throw more money at it.

I also now remember "The Last Remnant" basically being an FF game without being called one... but it kinda was.

they're going to upgrade or downgrade the action rpg combat
they're gonna STILL go the wanna be game of thrones route store wise
it will be lenear.
screen shot this.

-1% gameplay (with numerous design problems)
-99% cutscenes, walking sim shit, other scripted events and worthless padding bullshit.
-Unoptimised Engine 5, even more unoptimised than normal since Square made it
-Distict lack of quality in many areas with glitches, indian contractor asstes, dogshit animations and other signs of low quality that never should have made it into the final product.

I think XVI's failures and the state of the market today would convince them to take a step back for good. Square can't be that stupid.

Well good because 16 had better voice direction than anything square had made.. ever.
I'd rather listen to that any day than subhuman anime retards grunting at each other.
they just need to fire their japanese writers because they can't write a decent story to save their lives and they need to cut out 90% of the boring fucking cutscenes and dialogue.
ITS A VIDEO GAME! I DON'T WANT TO LISTEN TO SOME CUNT WAFFLE ON FOR HOURS, WALK 2 STEPS AND THEN HAVE TO SIT THROUGH IT AGAIN FOR ANOTHER 2 HOURS.

200GB download - A NEW RECORD!!

that's a lot of roman numerals

yep that too.
it's bloated with hours of unnecessary voice acting and 4K pre-rendered MP4s.

more actionslops

Playing through FF7R for the first time now

They really seemed to like that sideways shimmy thing. It was interesting the first time but after a while it's just annoying

I hate that even after SSDs and 9th gen consoles, games still did this bullshit constantly.

An FPS.

Fpbp. Also fantasy setting

Want:

turns + 4NIAR

open world to some extent

story with some sovl, not Twink Must Do The Serious Thing

waifus

memorable characters besides Twink MC

Expect:

ARPG slop battles

Boring story

Standard fantasy setting

Forgettable characters

FF7 was memorable because its setting was so outside the 'fantasy' expectations set in previous FFs (for Midgar at least), and it had a fun and memorable story.

Since FF12 they really don't seem to have been able to capture the magic, they've just swung between

theatrical high fantasy

futuristic fantasy

but nothing's really clicked since FFX

I hope they can turn it around but it's been a long time since they were nailing the formula

Honestly they need to stop sharting up the mainline FFs until they get their formula right again.

Do a non-numbered FF with something experimental and see what happens. It's clear no one is enjoying the GoT ARPG thing they're trying out with FFXVI (or whatever FFXV was) so there's a good incentive to try something different imo

Given that they "always chase trends" like XVI Lord of the Thrones at home and DMC like, maybe it'll be a GACHA game this time, as it is the "biggest thing"
That or go Expedition 33 with western graphics

A return to form.

Disappointment
Wokeness

That or go Expedition 33 with western graphics

I fully expect it to be an E33 ripoff

Adding in gacha to seem relevant is possible too

FF11 - MMO
FF12
FF13
FF14 - MMO
FF15
FF16
FF17 - MMO

A half-hearted, paint-by-numbers turn based RPG that shows the world once and for all that Square Enix's AAA team doesn't have the Final Fantasy magic anymore. FF7R/16 fanboys will dishonestly lump in every classic FF with it and use its underperformance to further self-validate their contempt for classic FF (similar to how BotW/TotK fanboys act like every pre-BotW Zelda was massively flawed like Skyward Sword).

SOP was made by team ninja.
It would be a great game if not for the shit optimization and loot system it would be a great game.

but yeah the others are trash. Why wouldn't I just play a real action game like DMC?
I'm not gonna play a subpar watered down action game that's 99% cutscenes, walking simulator bullshit and filler.

Our only saving grace has been the success of E33, hopefully they will see that FF fans just want the tried and tested FF formula instad of the boring ass gameplay of 16.

Basically fpbp.

The sad reality however will be

continue "innovating"

reductive combat

push for insane visuals

people have clipped through walls to avoid the "forced slow walking sections" and in a lot of cases the level is already loaded ahead. they put this garbage in purely to waste players time.

24hr FMV of YoshitPiss getting tortured.

a massive flop with even more gay and tranny shit

In the most hollow way possible.

The forced slow walking stuff is infuriating

There's definitely an element of padding the playtime with slow movement, e.g. the air ducts

Overall I'm really enjoying it, but despite Midgar being narratively 1/3 of the original game, it's tough to make an entire game out of it

This. And art style will probably be closer to ff9 after realistic ff16