Why do Eastern Europeans think The Legend of King Arthur is grimdark?

I think it's pretty good.

It doesn't bother with the "living town" wandering NPCs gimmick and doesn't do level-scaling so you cannot, in fact, go anywhere and do anything, and that's a deal breaker for some people at least where it compares with TES games.

V shilled that fall of avalon game saying its better than skyrim and when i play it i get a gamebreaking bug just like skyrim

arthur was born because his father want to bang a married woman and used magic to take on the guy's appearance to enter the castle and rape her

Here's a better King Arthur game: The Knights of The Round Table

good if you have skyrim itch

Margawse’s relations with her brother and his court seems to have been cordial. Although by now middle-aged, she was still beautiful enough that Sir Lamorak, who became her paramour, was ready to defend her beauty against that of Guenevere. Lamorak being the son of Pellinore, the man who had dealt King Lot his death wound, Margawse’s new affair did not please her sons. She accepted their invitation to a castle near Camelot, and there she and her lover arranged a tryst. Her son Gaheris, watching his chance, came to their bedside and struck off her head.

imo it's more like Gothic but with Elder Scrolls combat systems

Its a flawed gem. It has a lot, A LOT, of issues, but its fun

It kinda is to be honest. There is a lot of betrayal, incest, murder, cuckoldry, rape, massacres, torture, and other shit. Hell one of the most likable guys in the Matter of Britain is Dinadan, a cynical cunt that constantly shits on the concept of chivalry for being foolish, who mocks the other knights for being simping retards for mid bitches, is a violent misogynist that hates women for fucking up his bro's lives, but is the one dude that never betrays his friends, always comes through in a clutch to bail people out, is funny as fuck, and was willing to tell Arthur to his face he was being a retard when Arthurs actions were stupid and would cause suffering for the realm. He was essentially an ugly, bitter, asshole that was the only one that acted with common sense when everyone around him did the dumbest shit imaginable for the sake of vanity, pride, and glory.

The only real nigger in Arthurian legends basically.

Eastern euros for some reason have a very cynical "anti-romantic" attitude towards fantasy, myth, religion etc.
Everything is not as it seems, everyone has an ulterior motive, and nobody has sincere beliefs. Except for poor misha the farm worker who just wants to be left alone.

I've been enjoying tainted grail but I can smell this attitude in the core of the design philosophy. "oh no king Arthur was actually le bad let's all be sad together :((("

I have a Polish friend and he is very much like this. Very cynical, doubts everyone's sincerity.

There's lots of plain niggers, I'll add

reading Morte De Artur

Arthur sends a delegation to the Roman Emperor

Gawain is part of it

walks into the tent and immediately insults the Emperor's personal guard

Guard says "Hey, he's a bit rude isnt he?"

Gawain flies into a rage and beheads him

sparks a battle that kills 10,000 men

Everyone gets struck with "plot-necessary-brain-damage" from time to time, but Gawain and Galahad stick out as the two consistent biggest gorilla retards

Mordred and Agravaine took a dislike to him, apparently because of something he said to them about the matter of Lamorak’s death, and, although he had once rescued them from Breuse Sans Pitie, “cowardly and feloniously” they killed him during the Grail Quest

when ball breaking goes too far

By that time in history that's exactly what Gawain's role had become, being a wrathful hothead is why he died in the end

Dinadan's whole vibe is "I'm too tired to deal with this shit," and he has no problem telling every one that. You ever play an MMO with people from Anon Babble? It's a lot like that. You got a big ass group of people that are supposed to work together to accomplish a goal, but everyone you see is a mentally retarded emotional trainwreck filling your chat with WORDSWORDSWORDS that don't mean anything and ready to snake on everyone else at a moments notice. Meanwhile you are just sitting there sipping your vodka and trying not to lose your patience because, despite it all, you kinda like those niggers even if they are massive faggots.

Oh, and in this tortured metaphor Lancelot is one of those discord troons that keeps trying to convince everyone they are trans and hacks your toon to put him in a dress.

lol

So what the knights of the round table is actually about how knights are fucking assholes?

their failings in the end are all mostly understandable human ones even today, a 500 year old work does morally cloudy kniggas way better than fat fuck Martin does
To put it more plainly Dagonet in Idylls of the King calls Arthur the King of Fools because he tried to raise men up from the fuckin beasts we all are in the end

What the fuck is that?

Probably Sir Morien, of course they were gonna shove him in there somehow. The game really looks unique too. What a shame.

Are you suggesting that Lancelot was trans?

explain what's woke about it

ah I notice that black nigga. of fucking course. FUCK. WHY??

I want to become a more cultured and well read anon and move beyond my video games and anime, what versions of King Arthur should I read? Do I need some fancy pants degree in ole Englishe to understand??

life is grimdark to eastern europeans

Nah, that's why it is a tortured metaphor. There was this whole thing where Lancelot had his men bum rush Dinadan, put him in a dress, and then parade him around court, but Dinadan just shit talked everyone and managed to pop the crowd to get one over on Lancelot.

Funnily enough a fairly large segment of the modern scholarship on the Matter of Britain that is trying to reframe Dinadan as a troon or woman because he was able to identify any fully armored knight he had already met even if they didn't have their heraldry which, according to modern scholars, means he is female brained or some shit. It couldn't be because Dinadan was a really really good fighter and could identify people by the way they rode their horses or carried their arms. It's all so tiresome.

Sir Moriaen, said to be the Moorish son of one of Arthur's knights noted of being 'black of face and limb' from a Middle Dutch story in the 14th century.

There is no definitive book covering the Matter of Britain. It was an extremely popular narrative that was adapted to a ton of different languages and the authors of those works changed the story to fit the tastes of their own cultures.

If you want the broad strokes and a good selection of stories which covers a lot of the different traditions I would recommend checking out Bullfinch's Age of Chivilary. It covers the broad strokes of the stories, plus includes a lot of the tales of Charlemagne and his Paladins if you are interested in the Chanson of France.

In KA:KT's case it's a feature, not a bug. The devs didn't think it was grimdark, they re-interpreted it themselves that way. That's one of the game's selling points:

modern retelling of a classic Arthurian mythology story filtered through the dark fantasy tropes, a twist on the traditional tales of chivalry.

In my opinion they've done a great job and their work serves it's purpose (to provide lore and story to a video game) very well. Some places where the Arthurian mythology is ambiguous they had to take a stance but that just comes with the territory. I especially loved how well-integrated the Morality system was to the whole thing, it's basically tracked in a Cartesian coordinate system (x means Old Faith / Christian, y is Rightful / Tyrant) where both axes and their planes contain unique rewards - including Heroes - and you get points after certain decisions you make during Events and Quests. Believe me, you better make up your mind right at the beginning of the game.

The system is surprisingly tight, you can only afford literally one or two wasted points if you want to max out your chosen alignments. Specializing then going all-in is practically a must. This also means you'll need at least 2 playthroughs to experience the majority of these rewards. Not all of them, as that'd take 4 runs for obvious reasons. Of course new Heroes mean new Personal Quests and interactions, different bonuses mean different priorities in building back Camelot so the content will never be precisely the same. Plus this sometimes allows you to see conflicts you're familiar with from your previous run from a new angle, namely, by recruiting the Hero who was at the other side back then.

Because King Arthur dies from his incest baby killing him.

This is Dark Soulscore

It's 40 years already and nothing can beat Excalibur 1980 despite it barely used any budget.

If Excalibur 1980 is so great why isn't there a sequ...

I love how reflective the armor is in this film.

I remember in some scene you can see the filming crew from the reflection of King Arthur armour, shows how little budget they were working with.

cuckoldry was added later by the french.
incest is just a given, royal bloodlines must be maintained.

Absolute kino. Amazing that they cast Patrick Stewart, Ciarán Hinds, and Liam Neeson with a budget of only 11 million.

Because there are grim and dark implications in some versions.

Merlin used a spell to make Uther look like the Duke of Cornwall so he could go and fuck Igraine, while the next day Igraine learned that her husband had just been killed

After getting knighted, Gawain went on a quest and fought another knight in a duel, but when said knight lost and cried for mercy Gawain still went for the kill and his sword cut through the head of the maiden who was the knight's lover

On his quest Pellinore ignored a maiden who cried for help when her knight was in mortal wound, and later when he returned he found out they both had died

Morgan used trickery to steal Excalibur then gave it to Arthur's knight, then when they were in a duel Arthur mortally wounded said knight, and when he chased after Morgan she and her handmaidens turned into pillars of salt, which Arthur thought to be God's punishment for her

when Arthur learned that Morgan had given birth to Mordred who would kill him and take over his throne, he had every baby drown to death

Lancelot once helped a maiden named Elaine, who then used trickery to make him think that she was Guinevere so he would lay with her, and in the morning when Lancelot found out he almost killed her, but then he couldn't and went mad, running into the wild for years

1980s

There's your answer. Patrick Stewart was a stage actor before Star Trek, and Liam Neeson wasn't a big action movie staple yet.

Your nephew Gawain, whatever happened there.

Has there been a case where every top tier Round Table knights fighting over a single girl?

Patrick Stewart was a stage actor before Star Trek

every british actor is a stage actor. it's how they train before films and what they do between films, even for established stars.

Palamedes and Tristan had a rivalry over Isolde

Yeah, but that doesn't mean he'd be an expensive get, even in the 1980s.

Eastern European here. Life is depressing over here so it translates into most media that come out in eastern Europe

It perfectly captures the feel of mid-00s european RPGs. Buggy but with cool ideas and if it grabs you, it won't let you go.

doesn't do level-scaling

this shit has ruined TES and all the other games that implemented it.

Act 1 is genuinely a good game and you're constantly encountering random cool loot or stumbling into random quests. Act 2 is alright, Act 3 is blatantly unfinished.

I don't think it is just being there. I think it is a kinda spiritual sickness slavs got. I got a friend, ethnically Russian, his family has been here three generations, and all he and his parents have known is life in America. Yet somehow he manages to be the most dour, doomer, depressoid I have ever known. Very funny dark sense of humor, but he treats life like it is a personal punishment inflicted upon him by God for the explicit purpose of testing his soul because God knows he will fuck up and he deserves it.

Except when he is just the right amount of drunk, then he is the fun as fuck for like four hours.

I've seen at least one YouTuber complain about it because it means you can't "go anywhere and do anything."

Level scaling isn't bad, but it is easy to fuck up, and Elder Scrolls is the premier example of fucking it up.

It might be Sir Palamedes, who is described as being Saracen, or from the middleeast ( Pre-Islam) The longstanding rival of Tristram, and one of the few Knights who is very definitely not white. Also my favorite Knight of the Round Table

Fable 3

Kingmaker

uuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhh

gimme more

Oh shit, it is him, but why tf they made him look like a sub-saharan african with corn rows instead of an Arab

Give you more what?

kingdom builder rpgs

lmao I didn't see the corn rows. What is this game anyways, I'm interested in this. I also bought Tainted Grail because I enjoy Arthurian.Legend. It's very strange and alien compared to the Elder Scrolls which it evolved from clearly, but it doesn't quite scratch that Arthur itch for me.

it's called Legends of the Round table there's a demo, it's gorgeous and unique but the combat is fucking incomprehensible bullshit

Heroes of Might and Magic

but Arthurian theme

build your castle and expand the town and villages

while sending out knights to explore, exterminate mobs and recruit new knights or wizards

prepare for the final battle to determine the fate of Camelot

I'm surprised this hasn't been done yet

Because they're godless heathens.

nwn2
stronghold series
sierra's old city building series (caeasar, pharoah, emperor middle kingdoms...)

YOUR CHRISTIAN MAGIC WON'T HARM ME, PRIEST
Knight's Tale was alright but god damn if it didn't get old by act 3.

But where does Hank Morgan fit into it?

Huh? That's just normal for them.

Isn’t he supposed to be a vitiligo looking mother fucker because the author didn’t know what a mixed race person looked like?

the legend of king Arthur

Which one? I like the one where the fairy knight compels him to find out what women want.

nobody thinks that

Level scaling is inherently bad in an ARPG, it is only ever a bandaid fix for an out of control stat system.
Level scaling is only appropriate in a full on stat checking RPG, not an Action RPG.

Like 15 years ago devs put durability systems in games because thats just what everyone did so they acted like lemmings and did it too despite no other systems in their games supporting the durability. Eventually the lemming devs said hey wait A minute this feature doesnt actually add anything to our games (because they didnt design it to add anything) and then they took it out and suddenly it because unpopular for any game to have it in their game whether it was tied into other mechanics or not.

Level scaling is the same sort of thing, devs add it in because thats just what devs do, but also it lets them be lazy and make stupid stat systems that arent designed well then just use level scaling to help glue the game together. Because the feature is so helpful for shitty game designers to hide their shitty stat systems it will probably plague action RPGs for a long time.

I actually played this mid game. Pretty much the same plot as Streets of Rage and other take down the crime boss games. Vs Mode was fun though. No connection at all to it's namesake.

ni

I can't really connect with fairytale-like fantasy settings, they usually do get better characters and story arcs but they lack in atmosphere and believability.

We literally got 3 times more god than you do.

full of incest, cuckoldry, morally grey characters, betrayal, manipulation, ends wih father and son murdering each other

Geee I don't know anon