Soul vs soulless

soul vs soulless

wouldn't it be scroll vs scrolless?

I LOVE COLOUR STOP TAKING IT AWAY FROM ME I HATE THE ANTICHRIST I HATE IT

Oblivion was always an awful looking game and somehow they made it look worse.

Left armor is made of shiny, hard metal.
Right armor is made of dull, brittle clay.

I swear theres a grand conspiracy going on where lazy devs are clearly using AI and not saying shit about it, so when the public fully turns on AI all these dudes will go "But weve been using AI for 20 years and you loved X game"

NINTENDO HIRE THIS MAN tier

Is it Global Illumination that makes modern games look so shit or what?

shit vs shit (new)

Shit art direction.

Nuh-uh, it was top of the line when it came out. And the landscapes and animations still look great.

Someone needs to hurry up and make a mod for oldblivion that uses newblivions skills and level up

Why the WoW-tier armor tho?

I hope, I really hope the Fallout 3 remake keeps the shit brown filter. In fact, I hope they make it more brown.

Maybe so but most modern games have this problem. It's gotta be some setting everyone just turns on to save time.

I don't like either, but right looks like misplaced WoW assets.

anyone else see it?

i see what they tried to do with the armors and characters, but it doesn't work if you dont use the same aesthetics on the enviroments.

This is just MS reusing and outsourcing everything they can and firing developers every 18 months to avoid paying benefits.

It had a green filter

old good, new bad

Fuck off. The remaster unironically looks great and they re-hired the OG art director.

is this real

Freemason belt?

Did they at least add a few more sets of armor? It felt extremely cheap to see random vagabond bandits in glass armor

Playing a female character

YOU are soulless.

how much more money does todd need before he makes an actual real new game? does todd need infinite money?

Daedric vagabond bandits are the most stupid.
I think even for a bandit syndicate leader, dedric equipment would be a but too much. It has literally been forged by gods.

He made a real new game, it was called starfield and it was shit

I hate how almost every heavy armor set in this game shows your face in some way because Todd was so obsessed with showing off his new facial technology.

It looks like soulless, derivative shit, actually. Sorry you got confused.

I can't even think of a game that came out in 2006 that looks worse than Oblivion.

Amazing how all the subhumans who shit on Oblivion for years and years are now its most ardent defenders.

Old = Good!

New = Bad!

The same cycle ad infinitum. You fuckers will be rimming Skyrim and acting like it is the greatest game ever made when TES 6 comes out.

you clearly werent around in 2006 because everyone was shitty on how bad the game looked even for that time

You are a retard. Most people hate closed face helms in games with character customization.

Oblivion is shit, this is worse.

they re-hired the OG art director

then forced him to reuse stalker 2's UE5 assets, great.

Oblivion is nostalgic, iconic and has charme, but it is still a masterclass in awful game design, remake or not.
The game is fucked beyond believe and requires heavy modding to be enjoyable as an RPG.

buggy gameplay with weird glitches

Horse Armor debacle

People have shat on Bethesda games forever now, it's tradition. They know the modders will make it better anyways.

I don't mind the glitches and bugs. they add to the games unique charme.
What I do mind however, is the teo curling agonizing levelling system from the depths of hell, acompanied by utterly busted enemy scaling, forccing you to painstakingly minmax every single skill increase and level up to keep up AND the artifacts permanently scaled to the level where you obtained them.
Vanilla Morrowind and Skyrim are still fun after all the years. Vanilla Oblivion is an exercise in frustration and agony.

Nah, WoW tier would be fuckhuge shoulder pauldrons. Still ugly though

So? Alot of RPGs have a "hide helmet" button or just other armor options available that don't cover your face.
Also on that note, Morrowind armor looked better.

Most people can fuck off then.

first one looks like it had thought put into t, second looks like it was run through AI

Every armor set that is present in both Oblivion and a different Elder Scrolls game looks better in the latter option.
It's like they forgot to design armor between Morrowind and Skyrim.

I prefer oblivion glass and ebony armor to skyrim's.

Closed helmets > Open helmets
I <3 closed helmets and masks.
They shield my beautiful face from getting utterly wrecked.

I don't understand why it's so hard to do the same fucking design in remakes.

I'll agree with this purely for the fact the helmet is a much better shape in Oblivion.

I can agree with that, but I still think the Morrowind versions look better.
The glass Oblivion armor has that cool glow effect going for it too.

Left

20 highly motivated, passionate guys

Right

500 Indians

Hurr it look like AI

What the fuck is this nothing insult these days shut the fuck up

Glass armor was always dumb. Its a gemstone capable of absorbing magicka, but all the games treat it as a sort of metal and ignore its magicka absorption ability entirely. metal vibrates and bends, leather folds, but gems crack.

You'd have to have a soul to understand

the only issue i have with Mithril is that weird tie collar thing. The yellow dots are also a bit weird, but they're on both so i don't know

AI would have improved it.

No, they absolutely did not. Oblivion was a visual powerhouse at the time of release.

right looks like a larper in some homemade foam armor

There were two camps back then.

1. Gamers who have an appreciation for art, owned a PC, etc.
2. Retards.

Gamers who liked art had played PS2 games like MGS3 or whatever and then there were retarded xbots who had apparently never seen good art in their life or something. Revisionists talking about Oblivion looking good don't realize Crysis came out a month after Oblivion either. Unironic mongoloids.

Now I know Oblivion has some nice aspects to it but the idea that it was a "powerhouse" or was even in the top 20 games released that year visually is fucking batshit insane.

Retarded AI got rid of the corset.

Oh yeah morrowind armor design mogs the other games almost across the board.

I didn't say it was the most graphically impressive game, I'm just saying that it was very impressive when it was first released. If I waste my time and post contemporary reviews that praise its graphics are you going to be a massive faggot and equivocate saying they don't count? Be honest before I go out of my way for you.

Oblivion was a visual powerhouse at the time of release.

It wasn't though. You're citing reviews written by retarded shills and retards that took them as gospel. Assassin's Creed came out a month later too.

Oblivion was an absolute joke.

Reminder that these are the people seething over Oblivion and creating fake narratives since xheir game bombed.

playing as a girl

So to clarify, even if I find reviews release contemporarily that praise the graphics, you will still choose to ignore reality and claim that it was not graphically impressive at the time. Got it.

returning to tradition

That looks like shit

Naturally, because I can think critically and I have eyes. You seem to believe that reviewers ever had integrity and aren't just retards or paid shills.
The reality and cold hard fact is that Oblivion was never EVER seen as a "graphical powerhouse", that's a fucking joke.

both SOVL

500fps vs 50fps

you just know this anime tranny wasn't around in 2006 and is arguing because it makes him feel like his opinion matters (it doesn't)

It's old

retard.
gta san andreas was released two years before wanna see how faces looks or textures ?
just check games before and in 2006
dishonest faggot

Now look at what came out in 2007, the same year as Oblivion.
Also you're being retarded there are plenty of older games that look better. MGS, Zelda, Battlefield 2, etc.
You're such a piece of shit trying to make this stupid argument.

MGS

didn't except cutscenes

zelda is out of the scope doesn't aim for realistic graphics even it looks good it's cartoonish

battlefield II just like any other fps looked like shit but oh well.

just shut the fuck up retard ,you're a dishonest faggot who can't even remember how games looked back then ,i wouldn't follow the opinion of someone who has amnesia at 33yo

Translation: Only your retarded opinion matters, any evidence to the contrary is fake.

Joke's on them. I haven't liked any AAA games since 2014.

2 years was massive back then here's 2006 game for example looks way better than oblivion

someone modded stalker assets in?

It definitely was as far as open world games go. That’s the distinction. There were linear games that surpassed it quite handily in many areas, especially face models and animations, but up until that point a game with multiple square miles of open map space you could freely roam that had the view distances, physics and lighting of Oblivion literally hadn’t been achieved before.

More like SOUL vs Other kind of SOUL

dude if you think what you posted looks better than oblivion just blow your brain ,you got shit in it.

Revisionists talking about Oblivion looking good don't realize Crysis came out a month after Oblivion either

Crysis came out over a year and a half later, the fuck are you on about?

All of those games are better looking than Oblivion, SOTC was another one. Sure Oblivion had a bigger scope but you forget how laughably shit it looked. God awful animations, tiling grass, horrible draw distance, terrible performance, crash issues, saves being corrupted, hideous NPCs.
Where is the positive?

the bloom

Wow... amazing. You'll ignore that the majority of people hated the bloom now.

what you posted

doesnt even recognize the game

ah you're just a baiting zoomer i see now

I always reasoned that the Oblivion gates opening left a lot of Dedric equipment laying around.

why is there smog everywhere?!

are the x117 elves in yet

Anti-soul gas.

lel

Low quality assets too, that includes how stuff is tweaked.
PBR has done incalculable damage to video game graphics for example. Because 99% of games have the values set to make everything look like pure shit.

Argonian farts

Yeah, uhh... Why the masonic belt ?

The faces in San Andreas looked a shit ton better. And the whole aesthetic for that matter. It actually used filters effectively and didn't smear the screen in vaseline.
I'm sure Oblivion did have better graphics on a technical level, but that means fuck all when the game is just plain ugly

Why are people suddenly praising how fucking ugly and hideous Oblivion was?

Dark Messiah not only looks better than Oblivion but is way more fun to actually play as well

Because you're new here (post 2014)

Potato heads are a timeless treasure anon.

Mod it then.

fixed

They lil bitches who cannot make an evil black man, so they make em yt's in the remake

They overdo it. The feature itself looks good but devs crank it up to 10x. Remember in 2005 or 2006 and all games had shitloads of bloom?

you best be trollin

landscapes

debatable

animations

hell no

boy i can't wait for the skyrim re-re-re-rerelease now that bethesda knows their shit eating fans will happily buy it again

Iron, Steel and Mail were great looking armor sets in Oblivion. They worked despite the limitations of the graphics. The Imperial Guard armor also looks good. Most of the others were horrible.

Looking better in confined areas does not change that Oblivion was widely regarded as being impressive graphically. Your entire argument hinges on ignoring the majority of people that said otherwise, you don't really have an argument other than that it's your opinion it was not impressive.

Because it wasn't ugly and you are a terminally contrarian faggot

Hundreds of hours in Oblivion OG, 54 in the Remaster. The Remaster looks really good. I'm not going pretend otherwise because some fake casual gamers looked at some low res screenshots or cherry picked bad examples.

The majority of people said holy fuck those NPCs are disgusting, the bloom is blinding and the run animation looks dopey as fuck when you're moving in any direction that isn't forward. Nobody thought Oblivion looked good until people started posting sunset screenshots in the last few years

Oblivion character models were ugly and anyone saying otherwise is lying. However the rest of the game wasn't, except the distance LODs and the lack of object and character shadows making everything look too flat. Bloom was doing a lot of heavy lifting but in 2006 Oblivion was top of the line. The only comparable open world RPG of the time was Gothic 3 and while its world looked better its character models were even worse than Oblivion's.

Oblivion looked liked dogwater dude sorry

Yeah this. The game's environment was great, the models not so much.

Everything makes sense once you realize that it's mostly assets shitted out by Indian sweatshops.

I completely demolished your argument and now you're defending Oblivion's bloom. The only thing it did that was unusual.

The majority of people thought that the environments were beautiful. They didn't complain about the animations and the bloom because neither of them were expected to be much better and the bloom problem was still growing to a problem rather than being a major one in the industry. Again, I can post several major reviewers that were very open about praising the graphics, but I'm pretty sure you are just going to say they don't count.

this is what i was thinking as well. the characters and a few other aspects looked pretty rank but the rest of the game actually looked pretty good.

You didn't demolish anything. Your argument is that nobody thought it was graphically impressive. That's false. *You* didn't find it graphically impressive. You are not everyone

It's true. You are a retard.

In what fucking world is this a graphical masterpiece?

Character models look way better than Oblivion and the game isn't oversaturated with bloom
Cope and seethe Bethesfaggot

I've been here since 2007, oblivion has always been ugly as fuck, retard

damning image

youtu.be/x1mccFqEUuU

Looks fucking miles better than oblivion despite being source engine where you can't do open world. Character models aren't made out of clumps of clay and the lighting doesn't burn your retinas with bloom up the ass

OK now look at the grass trees and buildings and realize you're cherry picking like a little faggot.

but oblivion did these few things worse than some other games

ok? And it did a bunch of things better than a lot of them too. Trying to make Dark Messiah of all fucking things the hill to die on just proves you're a fucking retard.

Not an argument. I don't care that you didn't like it. You stated that people did not think it was graphically impressive on release. That is a complete and total fabrication.

Meant for

All I know is when I saw this teaser back in the day I thought these kind of graphics were impossible, I was so blown away.

youtube.com/watch?v=CUExueUU2Jc

In retrospect it's clear Bethesda were cheating a bit and Todd is playing a version they tuned and made nicer and the released game didn't look as good but this was incredible to see back then. I genuinely felt like this was a real forest. Kind of ironic because the forests in the game suck ass.

youtu.be/4Lj4A6L-mbk?t=980

You buy game, NAO! Bing bang booo, stupid gwailo!

I like Dark Messiah quite a bit but people overstate the absolute fuck out of pretty much every arguable quality it has

Oblivionfaggot thinks this looks good

Lmao, go suck some more Todd dick

That does look impressive for a 2006 game with an open world. Post some contemporary competitors

I'm not going to say that Oblivion looks good, but it at least had some identity to it. The remake just looks like every other Unreal Engine game. You could easily convince me that shit was from Avowed or Elder Scrolls Online.

Best thing about Oblivion was making your character for 50 minutes, trying to get something acceptable with the potato faces, only for it to instantly collapse once you leave the sewers and see the horrible outside lighting effects ruin everything

You're a zoomer who wasn't even alive back then.
Graphics haven't even changed in your lifetime, games now literally look the same as they did when you were born.
Shut the fuck up about things you don't understand, child. Go play fortnite with your friends like a good zoomzoom.

zoomer that wasn't even alive in 2006 has opinions

it certainly wasn't the single best looking game of the day, but it was universally praised for its graphics at the time

but but bloom or some shit

nigger in this thread tying to use Shadow of the Colossus, the brownest game with the worst frame rate of all time as an example of looking good. You retards lost a long time ago.

We were comparing it to Dark Messiah and it looks worse. Drenched in bloom and looks like shit. The only parts of Oblivion that look good are the areas where art design carries it like the Imperial City, it's always been an ugly game

tard vs retard

Sad thing is Avowed is pathetic in comparison to a UE5 wrapped gamebryo game from 2006. Basically every aspect of world interactivity is downgraded in Avowed compared to Oblivion, and the excuse that it has fancier lighting and textures doesn’t even apply now.

Oblivion ran worse and has worse graphics. People are using SOTC because it's also an open world game.

You are actually retarded.

hurr zoomer zoomer zoomer

Oblivion was always made fun of for the excessive bloom and potato people, just cause you played the game as a toddler and built it up as some unachievable standard in your head doesn't mean it ever looked good. There were PS2 games that looked better than Oblivion.

I accept your concession

There were PS2 games that looked better than Oblivion.

Such as?

Yes it was, always was, still is
It might've looked good through your 8 year old eyes but nostalgia doesn't replace reality
Skyrim got rid of the monstrous facial designs but still looked like shit, ugly and brown
Same shit with Fallout 3 and 4. Bethesda games have always looked bad and they keep looking worse as time passes
And I am speaking from a place love, I've played these games to death despite them being 6/10 experiences across the board. There's no sandboxes quite like them elsewhere with same level of moddability
it's just that bethesda is incompetent with their writing and world building so the base game experience is very lukewarm, new vegas showed that the game engine and visuals don't matter if you give players good dialogue, decisions, agency and fully realized systems

You are a spastic retard.

Where do these people even come from? BF2 mogged the shit out of it
youtube.com/watch?v=K58u6AY8tZk

It's an open world game with ps2 textures insane amounts of brown, virtually zero actual objects in a world famous for being minimalist that has a universally derided framerate and no fucking draw distance. Again you guys are picking the dumbest possible hills to die on.

Can't belive they ruined khajiit females

You definitely were not alive at the time. I am now convinced. Sorry zoomer

Yes it was made fun of for two very specific things, which were much less of a problem at the time, and you're ignoring the fact that it was universally praised for its overall appearance and graphics which you would know if you were there or would bother to consult something other than your headcanon.

I mean its world is totally empty

Oblivion is an open world game with ps2 textures insane amounts of green and bloom and far less impressive animations and graphics. What's your point?
SOTC also laughably has a better draw distance and it's not all empty like you're implying.

And Oblivion's is full of flat tree textures that face you, what is your point? SOTC's landscapes look better unironically.

damn, the remake on the right looks so bad
what were they thinking with the forced "soul"
haha, it's ugly, thus it has soul, get it?

Having hideous characters in the game does not mean that most people were not blown away by the graphics at the time. Its environments and physics were top-notch and basically nothing that many of us had played came even close to what it had at the time.

Oblivion is an open world game with ps2 textures

You do not know what you are talking about.

posts a 30 second clip of a blurry brown sludge with so much lens flare you can't even see the sky.

Care to try again?

Twilight Princess and Okami came out that year and looked better.

It's easier to make an empty world and compensate. Oblivion ran on consoles.

Stylistically, maybe. Fidelity-wise, no, they did not.

Does the remastered have all the expansions built in? I only know Shivering Isles.

Always cracks me up how zoomers can't wrap their head around historical context and how quickly graphics were advancing in such a short space of time -- it's because they've had nothing but stagnation their entire lives and games still look more or less the same as when they were kids.

In what way exactly? They both have better models and animations.

They are both soulless. Reminder for all the faggots trying to rehabilitate Oblivion: Todd switched Cyrodiil from a jungle like land and the Imperials from being obviously based on Rome, to being Middle Earth because Todd wanted to cash in on the LOTR movies hype that came out just a few years before. Oblivion was always soulless, and all the "charm" is the result of laziness, not passion from a struggling team.

How can anyone think Oblivion looked good for it's time when Morrowind looked better?

Yes. You get all the original dlc. Shivering Isles, Knights of the Nine, Spell Tomes, Mehrunes Razo, The Orrery, Horse Armor, Wizards Tower, Thieve's Den, Vile Lair, and Fighter's Stronghold.

Well because it didn't, anon.

NOOO FUCK OFF ZOOMER I PLAYED THE GAME WHEN I WAS YOUNGER AND IM OLD NOW SO ITS ACTUALLY PERFECT AND NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS

Style>fidelity. GTFO Anon Babble if you think otherwise

The term "graphical powerhouse" is 100% related to fucking fidelity, which has been this entire discussion so far.

You can't be serious. I love Oblivion, but the faces made the game seem silly. Nublivion somewhat addresses the absolute potato that were the oldblivion's faces. Prime example are Khajiits that look a lot cuter.

God you all hate everything. Oblivion Remastered is like 100 mods but better and built in.

It replaces every single mesh, every single normal map, every particle, every lighting effect, every skybox, every shader, every animation, every texture, every single icon, every map, every menu, every button, every sound, the windows at night, the way things are harvested, every voice, every face, every tree, every plant, the landscape, every rock, every door, every piece of armor, clutter, and clothing and more. It's far more extensive than mods.

I ran Oblivion with 427 mods, I know what I'm on about. Even with a lot of effort here is a minimum of what you'd need to even get close.

1. Base Game
2. All DLC
3. Tons of mods. Like around 100. You cannot simply improve the graphics, you need a mod just to replace the way amulets look. Then another for something else, etc.
4. Mod Manager
5. Archive Invalidation tools
6. Oblivion Script Extender
7. TESVILODGEN.exe

If you do it all right you can end with a real nice looking game. Back it all up because now it's time for quality of life mods and half of them break the game. Fixing how hits work, archery redo, leveling system, leveled lists, lockpicking, how magic counts towards skill progression, how skill progression counts towards attribute growth. All of it needs overhauls. The quality of sounds, footsteps, voice acting, speechcraft, bartering, and more all need updates to fix major issues. Then the Unofficial Oblivion patch. Real lighting. Physics updates. There's too many quality of life things to count. I forgot many I know.

Truly it's significant work to get the game in a good place, it just aged too much.

Oblivion Remastered does ALL of that on the base game. If you still hate it, now mod it. There is no way this does not save a ton of time.

I love when Anon Babble gets mad when people like things

Then being a powerhouse was worthless because the game looked like ass in spite of all that power

based as FUCK rational anon

Don't forget that even beyond all that, modded Oblivion still runs like shit no matter what you do

Anyone complaining about new Oblivion should just wait it out honestly. People are already transferring core mods from the old game, it's only a matter of time until it has nearly all the mods anyone could possibly ask for.

This. People will bitch about the remaster being “sovless” then waste 150 hours downloading 2k wood barrel textures and 300 other mods in every Bethesda game just to get a Frankenstein’d graphics overhaul with a fraction of the cohesion and consistency of the remaster.

It was universally hailed as a good looking game in general and easily the best looking game of it's scale and size of the day. You can seethe all you want but a quick visit to metacritic will let you know that looking back with hindsight (trying to compare it to Crysis lol) is distorting your perception and proving how retarded you are.

Young anons don't know how exciting it was when Bethesda started releasing the teaser images. They were absolutely gorgeous.

I'll have you know an Oblivion mod has never once sullied my directory. Oblivion looks like shit, but i'm not a zoomer so shit graphics are nothing new.

It replaces every single mesh, every single normal map, every particle, every lighting effect, every skybox, every shader, every animation, every texture, every single icon, every map, every menu, every button, every sound, the windows at night, the way things are harvested, every voice, every face, every tree, every plant, the landscape, every rock, every door, every piece of armor, clutter, and clothing and more. It's far more extensive than mods.

it looks worse though lol

I don't think we've established anyone actually likes it. It's not a good sign when chuubas have to work to make it look fun. Nor is throwing away a decades old mod base. Without which the original would've been shovelware.

We get it, you're a contrarian.

Wait I don’t get it. Is the Oblivion Remastered soulless compared to the charm and brilliant art direction of the original game or was Oblivion always a pile of shit that looked like ass? Which opinion do I have?

People who already modded the game like that 10+ years ago are the ones saying the remaster is soulless.

It's not really an argument though. You're defending a very low budget Unreal Engine game that looks like shit has an objectively terrible UI.
If you're like this, you are the contrarian if you're not just a paid shill.

ruined

that looks like shit

looks fine

objectively terrible UI.

it's fine
stop whining about everything

I don't think we've established anyone actually likes it.

You mad? Gonna cry? Piss your pants maybe?

defending a shitty demaster

of oblivion of all games

the absolute state of Anon Babble

OH he big mad.

still seething

on Anon Babble of all places

the absolute state of shitposters.

The remaster looks like a WEG that got out of hand

If you had an IQ approaching anything sapient. Welcome back Anon Babble I really didn't fucking miss you at all.

oblibion was never soul, faggot retard :)

For real, and shit would break all the god damn time. Like I got a Frostcrag Spire home except I could never got it to consistently load the Viewable When Distant model from inside a town or even different parts of the map. Then I got a rebuild mod of it that I loved, but then all sorts of VWD stuff would just randomly break. It came with a new model but it just never worked. Or a distant height map was off by too much and covered it up. Every single time I booted it up, I found myself back in the editor fixing something. It got complex too, VWD stuiff was never part of the original so the different levels of detail on the map don't match their locations, so on LOD 3 a house would sit on it right but LOD 4 it's floating.

And the performance would stutter way into the RTX graphics era. The engine just had hard memory caps. There were simply limits to what you could make it do. All of those limits have been taken off. Anything we can dream of we can do now.

There's already 900 and many of the best like the home rebuilds and new lands and body replacers and expanded magic are all being worked on.

Honestly, to anybody mad, now is a good time to earn a billion Kudos. Hate how new Mithril armor looks? Make the old one but improved graphics and offer 3 downloads. A replacer, a shop item, and another that adds it along side the original in loot tables. People are in a new era, you can change anything in this game.

The original was designed for CRTs and has menu elements that make use of half pixel shading. It's way more outdated than your memory and it has hard coded limits that cannot be passed. Even fixing the VWD positions takes at least 200 hours and there's no mod for it. Anyway, if you hate something, then change it.

Can we get a loot list mod going early this time so that all the new stuff can appear in shops and NPCs and chests and such? It's way easier when we coordinate.

fucked up but true

Nope. Level scaling is still the same.

having to go through the quick-select menu

you could bind them to numbers from that menu

It's still really awkward to use though. I can't see why Bethesda didn't keep a similar spell slot for Skyrim like they did in Oblivion... unless they repurposed that exclusively for Dragon Shouts and didn't bother to add a second one for regular spells.

It's clear at this point you're talking about two different things. The other dude is talking about fidelity and you're talking about style. Your personal distaste for the overdone bloom has no bearing on the fact that it was objectively a highly impressive game for its time and was considered so at launch. It is possible for the game to be impressive in its level of detail and technological accomplishments while still looking bad.

Nublivion has higher res textures and more polygons and stuff. Even ray tracing.
It's a graphical powerhouse

Fore sure, all of that would be great. I hope there's a big resurgence in modding, but a lot of us are busy in our careers these days.

It objectively runs many times smoother. I can put a frame cap at 75 fps and it runs perfectly only occasionally dropping. You need a tool to measure it. The original would crash if too many spell effects were cast at once. It's really not close. It still had some mods to improve it though. Check out a graphics settings mod, sometimes there's small tweaks that will really smooth it out. OG would just crash randomly. I haven't seen that at all 15 hours in so far.

it was objectively a highly impressive game for its time

It literally wasn't, it was sold on bullshots and when it finally shipped and people started playing it everyone commented how much of a letdown it was.

Oblivion was an ugly game, back then and even now.

Do the Nay Sayers not even have the game?

the fancy sword shaders that you needed a new video card for were breathaking
the races all looked the same and were ugly eggheads
wtf is mithril armor and why does it look like it was stolen from LoTR's set
why does the daedric weapons look like scrap metal
don't even get me started on glass armor lmao

Are sex mods in yet?

They literally didn't. Yes there was an E3 demo that used unrealistic graphics and people weren't used to that trick yet. But otherwise you're a fucking lying retard. Go find me a single review from that time period that calls the game ugly or says its unimpressive graphically.

Game's only been out for less than a week. Give it a few months at the very least. The script extender for Newblivion isn't the same as Oldblivion either, so you might be waiting for a while.

still drops when capped at 75 fps.

This implies that there are frame times longer than 13ms. People can notice a frame time taking 0.05ms longer than usual from 5ms frame times. That shit game is constant heavy stuttering.

I don't know how anyone can look at this and not think that this is an amazing level of detail and modelling for a 2006 game. Say what you want about the art style and the ugly potato characters.

That's like $2k worth of Steam reviews. Let me know if anyone is still playing in 6 weeks when the media blitz dies off.

They literally didn't. Yes they did

Retard.

why do people make these cherrypicked and often edited images and then repost them 100 times

just for the (you)s? to feel good about starting a fast thread? just to shit on whatever is currently popular? it's insane. I looooove the original Oblivion and I'm playing the remake now and it's still very colorful, almost cartoonishly colorful same as the original. notice how the 2025 Oblivion in the OP, there's no shadows. obviously, the game has shadows, but whoever made that image intentionally made everything look like shit just for the picture. mentally ill behavior.

still not a single piece of evidence towards his claim

Nigger, there's a world of difference between "it doesn't look as good as the e3 demo" and "wow this game looks like shit". I know you're a fucking retard, this thread has made it clear but that's no excuse for the level of dishonesty you're showing.

wow the foggy rainy lake during dawn/dusk on a cloudy day looks kinda desaturated

how could AI do this!?!!?!? :(

there are some real retards on this website

the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell

script extender for Newblivion

Oh cool so they were able to get that working then.

Remaster has sexy older women so it wins

people will stop playing the singleplayer game when they finish it? Anon you are so smart. You are right. Ive lost. Not like skyrim is still in the top 100 even after 14ys I wounder why.

Is it Global Illumination that makes modern games look so shit

No? if you're making the argument against global illumination then you're asking to go backwards.

OP turned off shadows and everything else to take that picture, same as every other graphics whore

The one on the right looks like something from a cheap 2000s MMO.

so true

"She" looks like Tom Brady mixed with Geralt of Rivia.

I'm sorry but vanilla Oblivion was awful. Even with expansions and official patches it was still pretty bad. The Skyrim rereleases are cash grabs and if they ever remaster Morrowind they would ruin it. But Oblivion? That game has been begging for a fixer upper for at least a decade.

modlist pls

Of course, censored

Lmao
I'll maybe play next year with full armor replacer mods

I can. It looked good for an open world game but open world games typically didn't look good so it's not saying much

maybe this
nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/37377

Why does everything new look so weird and muddy?
Can't be only UE5.

Can't be only UE5.

yes it can

most games do when you turn the graphics settings to minimum and turn off everything like shadows, reflections, etc

The remaster is faithful because it's ugly as shit just like the original.

What sort of autism inspires a man to play as an anime schoolgirl in a medieval fantasy game?

People like anime, fantasy, and open worlds. It's why Genshin Impact and its clones are popular too. It's also related to the success of so many isekai anime.
The better question is why there are still so few of them. The market for it has clearly been around for a long time now.

1/10 bait

you are the best

changed troll design for remaster

except the painted trolls, they retained the classic design

tfw dead creatures still look at you no matter where you are

kek

Because playing the same game over and over again gets tiresome

woke era vs post-woke era

If you look at her tits and build you’ll understand

it looks like a fucking swamp, it's a travesty and no one is saying anything

wanting to play as yourself

Have you played it, or just looked at pictures people post online to make you angry and reply?

what? The right one has bigger tits and wider hips. the original one has the body of a lean man

just download a mod that changes the colors. I did this and it is great.

it's not great you just have bad taste

Damn and here I was just getting ready to install obvilion because someone told me not to bother with the remaster, the old one is better when modded.. it's kind of soul crushing to know how much effort needs to go into making it at least decent and even then there is a high chance of it being broken, the only mod I really would wish for with the remaster is "immersive interiors and better looking characters"

That would be closer to what Cyrodiil is actually like.

Fake news

not max settings btw

The original with mods is better but modding it in current year would be hell. No one would care to help you and the good stuff made back in the day would be hard to set up.

This looks so fucking bad. It's washed out with a dogshit filter on top of it and half of the scene is overly bright considering it's night time.

And this just looks blurry as fuck. Like you're playing Skyrim with 10 layers of blur trying to hide how ugly everything is.

you need glasses. that, or try being less emotional. are you a woman, or do you just like pretending to be one?

That's actually pretty neat.

trying too hard award

Oblivion was a shit game and it looked like shit.

embarrassing.

I'll break your fucking legs if you talk to me like that again, bud

now post the LAUGHABLE water

how dare you insult a generic looking low budget stuttery unreal engine game's graphics!!!!

(You)

Water, particularly reflections, are terrible indeed. Kinda true to the original, as Oblivion water was even worse than Morrowind's.

Wow the game from an extremely zoomed out perspective you literally never see it from doesn't look as good as normal gameplay. You're such a pea-brained retard, how do you even function?

I don't really remember vanilla water but I remember liking it more than Skyrim's water. Was was wrong with the reflections? I remember an .ini edit that let it reflect spells and stuff which was cool.
youtube.com/watch?v=Vtq8ipInNk4

Modded Oblivion > Morrowind > Skyrim in terms of water too. imo.

sovl

spend a couple hours running and jumping during the tutorial

when you emerge all enemies will have high level armor and weapons, entirely bypassing iron/steel/leather/chainmail

Oblivion was always fucking broken and it still is. Dogshit game

It looks so nice bros.

You van call it soulful, cuz it is, but don't pretend it was super graphically impressive

WATER'S FINE BOYS

My only complaints are that the game doesn't run very well on my mid-range PC: RTX 3060 Ti, Ryzen 5 5500 and 16 GB RAM (I have to do some configurations to always run 60+ FPS and use that Engine.ini mod and it still has stuttering) and that crap body type 1 and 2, but after this thread I realized that it's worse than I thought. I'm still enjoying it on gamepass though, but I hope the mods fix the game completely in the future

abysmal taste

That explains why you can't get 60 fps on a fucking 5090, the bugs coded it.

@708516864
stop samefagging it looks like manure

The original had 95% positive reviews, This has 82%, and this is with the benefit of people who won't buy a remaster not playing it, and people who are already fans of the series enough to buy a remake of a earlier title.

This game wouldn't be doing much worse than the original if it wasn't worse, which it is in almost every way. The only real thing it offers is a graphical, and animation overhaul, but it looks like ass, and can't get 60 fps on a 5090.

You can't even get it to stay at 30 fps on the lowest settings, and smallest resolution on a 9070xt. The game is fucking unplayable.

look at mods

all of them were last updated over 10 fucking years ago

Yeah no fucking shit they are buggy and run like ass pretty much 90% of them are all abandoned

it looks worse than every witcher game but some sad pathetic piece of shit will mod and defend it, even if it's one of the worst remasters ever

People who buy remasters have to be some of the dumbest sons of bitches around. You can literally buy the original Oblivion plus dlc for less than a tenner. Why would you pay 50 for a graphically updated version with silly changes from the original? Dumb motherfuckers. Gamers are scum.

Show fps counter that's currently cratering at 4 if you have anything less than a 5090.

Because original Oblivion is an abomination of an ugly ass game that runs like shit, no matter how much of you contrarians try to pretend otherwise.

the same can be said about the remaster

Now take a picture of right with graphics all the way up

I already own the original. The remaster is nicer and really pretty looking.

i got 3080/ryzen 7 and i capped my fps at 60. it dips to 40 if there's a lot of shit going on and my pc gets really fucking hot but i have everything on high and it plays just fine.

Yeah, if you're a 4k fag. I have a 1080p OLED, and run a 6950xt. 100fps on average running the ultra preset with some minor tweaks.

I've yet to see proof of this

The complaint back then was that the landscape wasn't forested enough because cyrodiil was supposed to be a dense exotic jungle like region

meant for

it looks like a shitty phone game

People are retarded. That's why they have several hundred / thousands of hours in a low tier console RPG in the first place.

as opposed to?

cylon lookin ass

seething indian can't stop thinking about shit

you're defending a game made by virtuous

The complaint back then was that the landscape wasn't forested enough because cyrodiil was supposed to be a dense exotic jungle like region

which is retarded because Uriel used CHIM to make his empire have more favorable terrain. It's canon and lore based. only secondaries bitch about muh cyrodillic jungle

They turned Oblivion into Transition

you're asking to go backwards

Yes please.

I don't know, maybe real RPG game like fallout 2, baldurs gate or the myriad of other rpgs that require an IQ of above 90 to play. It doesn't matter what I say though, you like slop and can't mod in giant shitting dick nipples so it wont be to your taste.

bragging about having an iq of 90 isn't the own you think it is grandpa

Define "soul"

I just need a reshade that brings the green back and I won't have any more bad to say.

not only do you have an excellent taste in video games, your reading comprehension is interstellar too - you sure pwned me zoomer retard.

KEK

more green

and darker darks are all it needs

Damn interstellar too!! no way man that fucking awesome sauce :D

throw a few more shades of irony on and maybe people wont think you're a self-embarrassed faggot too

how do i make my remastered game look like the one on the left?

is this a bot or a shill post? no actual human being has ever accused ue5 of running well

if you have a soul you just recognize it
you're basically an animal

the remaster is LITERALLY oblivion with a UE5 wrapper
this is inarguably a double negative and it runs worse

Interesting the only one who gives a shit about your worthless opinions is me, so heres another you for (you)
and some Bengay for your arthritis old timer

and somehow they made it look worse.

I hate when retarded devs make such rookie errors.

brown/magenta color grading that luckily you can compensate for with reshade

skylighting set too bright so that nights aren't dark but during the daytime this results in shadows being borderline non-existant

overly-contrasty tonemapping

distance fog starts way too close so anything in the distance looks super foggy

lighting on characters for conversation is too harsh. They should have used a softer area light to make the characters look less ugly.

I just hate when devs are too retarded to have basic artistic sense so i need to tweak shit in order to make it look not ugly

it's actually mindblowing to me how bad it looks most of the time
like, I don't get it
I cannot fucking fathom it looking worse than old fucking oblivion in many regards

disable distant fog

suddenly discover why it exists

get mad

lmao did you even play Morrowind?

OPs armor on medium settings

I don't know what tricks he used to make it look that bad

*lying around
(use lay for motion or action, use lie for position or situation)

Skyrim had quests that gave you cool little perks lile cannibalism or mara gave you magic resist does oblivion have quests like those? I know it doesnt get perk trees or anything.

Unique Landscapes

that mod only existed because the entire landscape in original Oblivion was an almost totally featureless, no landmark havin, samey playdoh dogshit
the remaster already addresses that mostly
I still really miss Better Cities though

That's not what the grassy shore of a lake on a rainy dusk looks like in real life at all.

the remaster already addresses that mostly

not at all, you must not remember what UL did

Compare to the shit we get on the norm now. Suddenly a jank ass game from nearly 20 years ago looks pretty damn good by comparison. You seriously want to play shit like Veilguard or Avowed? Nobody wants to play Veilguard or Avowed.

Old = Good!

New = Bad!

The same cycle ad infinitum

No shit sherlock it's because things keep getting worse.

How come nobody is mentioning it's literally a different design? Proportions and major details are completely different in the new armor. It looks like a fucking skinsuit compared to the old one.

if you can't run this game just turn off lumen lighting and you can probably actually run it.
my gpu is below the minimum and i can run it at medium settings after turning off lumen lighting in the engine text file after previously needing everything to be on low and still getting lag
now i get a little lag but it's not bad and the game looks fine

remaster/remake is just putting the game under unreal engine and deleting all handcrafted development in favor of UE assets

will they ever not

That's what armor looks like.

Literally a pajeetmake.

It doesn't matter anon because the new game still looks like absolute dogshit so it doesn't matter how much effort went into it

I agree that I don't like the WoW-ification of the Mithril armor set, but I think the Remaster is generally a massive improvement.

The Mithril set was never my particular favorite either, so.... it doesn't really bother me. But I'd get if you were ticked off if that was your go to set.

No it's not saar

If you let a literal blind retard play the tutorials from each game even they'd tell you the remaster looks way better. Anyone who says otherwise is just being a jaded, dishonest fag.

same time of day and weather btw

I've got 40 hours in the remaster now and have had it crash twice. Once in the enchanting menu out of nowhere. And another time today when I was in the middle of a fight casting a spell with bunch of effects.

However it's still better than modded oblivion overall stability wise. I would have probably had over 20 crashes in that amount of time. Maybe even more than that, it's been years since I last played modded oblivion but an insanely heavily modded playthrough I did would crash nearly every 1 hour of gameplay.

Unique landscapes added a lot of towns and people as well. Made the countryside actually feel lived in. I miss all the bigger city/town mods, but performance would be rough if it could be added to the remaster.

Top is sol less

Oh no, moments on ultra on a 5 year old computer that go all the way down to 67 fps? Intolerable!

Bro it's a single player RPG not competitive professional Call of Modern Warfare

GIVE MOD NAME OR LINK NOW!

Left looks like an RPG character wearing RPG armor

Right looks like a The Sims 3 character wearing a costume from the Gettin' Medieval Content Pack

The thing I really want to draw attention to here is those dark trees on the horizon in the original. I've seen how the trees get like that at dusk IRL, it's a powerful image. Completely ruined in the shaderslop remaster.

I have never seen a comparison where the remaster looks better. It's a total failure.

damn bro the AI upscaler went off on this one frfr on god

Let me guess, unreal engine epic slop games devs?
I bet devs got payed by chink shills to use their sloppy engine, because it makes no sense why would anyone would prefer this mess over literally anything else.

Why does every remake completely ruin the look of metal armor/weapons by not doing the specular mapping correctly? Dark Souls remake did the exact same thing. (I will never pay for a remake until one of them actually gets this right.)

they outsource work to a turd world low budget studio that has never done anything right

I honestly think most of the new versions of the armor sets look fine and often better. I always thought a lot of the armors in the original looked bad. You probably posted one of the few that imo they changed too much

The remaster would run and look better with the same assets if it was remastered in UE4 or any other engine. UE5 is just a broken mess that stutters and looks bad 10ft from the player character, with all the vaseline filters and broken ass lumen

The Golden Coast is now actually Golden

Nice. Another win for the Remaster it seems haha.

Yes, I think the Remaster is a lot better than the original. Sorry tranny. Wait for Skyblivion I guess, like the other troons.

brown filter

Did you even play Fallout 3?

I couldn't get a stable 40 fps on the lowest settings on fucking 9070 xt you are just making shit up. People can't get a stable 60 fps on a fucking 5090.

You are just lying to try, and sell your game pajeet.

100fps on average running the ultra preset with some minor tweaks.

Lying faggot LOL!

Average indian shill

God the demake looks like pure shit. Fuck unreal slop.

old good

new bad

is there any remaster that Anon Babble likes more than the original?

This thread is still not convincing me why I should think the Remaster is soulless, it looks great

We get it you like dogshit

All I've learned from this remaster is that oblivion defenders are the most disgusting, vile, disingenuous fags of the entire TES playerbase.
Morrowind fags recognize Morrowind has a shit ton of problems
Skyrim players don't give a fuck about it being watered down
And even TESO players accept it was a huge mistake but play it anyway

Oblivion cunts do nothing but seethe and cry when people criticize it despite the fact nobody in the fucking world has played Oblivion a single time in the past ten years until this remake came out

As a rule, if your remaster is supposed to bring graphical improvements, and actually makes it looks worse, nobody is going to like it. First tip pajeet, test your game on a few computers, and make sure you can get 60fps on typical cards. Design your game around how it will look on very common consumer cards like a 4070 super, if it looks like a fucking ps1 game, and stutters at 30 fps, you need to fix it.

This is basic shit for any game, we haven't even got to how to do a remaster yet, because you haven't figured out the basics of a game.

Kino. Can't wait to have more free time again and buy the game. Zoomers are retards who are hating on things to fit in.

Hi pajeetmake shilltard

Irmt was console slop 20 years ago and it still is now

Everything being from the same asset library and dogshit asset materials combined with dogshit post processing.

Would raw on both

You can run Oblivion with 0 mods and it looks better than remastered

lmao even

Are all the glitches still intact?

It still looks really fucking bad, man.

Also cool is that they made Iron armor shiny like steel, which means nobody at this company was actually familiar with iron, a real material that exists everywhere in normal everyday life. That's kind of a crazy blind spot for an entire company to have.

Type 1 character

Wouldn't have expected anything else from your script. Lol!

for the most part, since it's the same engine except it now uses UE5 for rendering
some small details are slightly different, and some glitches/oversights that can make some quests unbeatable have been fixed (but I'm sure there are still plenty of ways to brick quests)

Would it have killed them to add more NPCs in the towns?

Morrowind armor looked better

lol

It's not a conspiracy. Oblivion remaster has ai faces, ai assets and ai landscape.

It's hard to fault morrowind armors when it's the fuckawful bodies and posture. I genuinely don't I've ever seen more horrendous humanoid models than morrowind, but it has cool designs that could be neat if they weren't on deformed t-rex men.

and make sure you can get 60fps on typical cards.

30 fps is fine

if it looks like a fucking ps1 game, and stutters at 30 fps, you need to fix it.

Ok, so you're just a retard

Most Oblivion armor designs hold up really well as many of them were used directly in skyrim
The same cannot be said about morrowind which didn't even have a cohesive design theme around them
You have shit that looks like a gimp suit contrasted by minecraft diamond armor in the same DLC