Who does Lordaeron rightfully belong to?
Who does Lordaeron rightfully belong to?
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I'd say whatever remains of the refugees of the former kingdom of Lordaeron, but with a dead king, a dead prince, and the land swarming with the undead and god knows what else, it's going to be an uphill battle to get it back.
Alliance, always has been, always will be
The people who lived there.
God Emperor Supreme Commander Lord Garithos
my futa orc shaman
A kingdom is the sovereign and the sovereign's claim to some land
if the sovereign is dead and no one of his family left to take the claim, the kingdom is gone
land goes to someone else and there is whatever to justify it, the sovereign's third nephew twice removed claims inheritance versus the sovereign's second nephew thrice removed can duke it out or some warlord with the steel behind him just takes it instead
a dead king, a dead prince
You forgot "an undead princess". Calia Menethil's corpse is currently one of the leaders of the Forsaken
The people of Lordaeron, who never left.
The Argent Dawn and the lads squatting at chillwind post?
Arthas
Is the Menethil line extinguished?
Calia is said to have had a daughter we never saw (might be dead or not, who knows) and some scarlet crusade pamphlets told of a "true heir" (male) within their ranks (who we also didnt see yet).
So probably yes, but maybe no.
Well I checked out of Warcrafts lore sometime after Warlords where time travel and alternate timelines were introduced in the same expansion and shit just kept getting retconned. That said, I seriously doubt any of the still living people of Lordaeron are going to accept a dead princess to lead them when she wasn't really doing a great job alive either. Also she's a filthy undead, as in one of the reasons they lost their home in the first place, tolerance wouldn't be high on the list for them.
The remaining people of Lordaeron. But there is no way they could take it back so it's just a lost kingdom.
Lordaeron never fell.
It was only, Forsaken.
BUILT ON HVMAN SOIL
Warlords where time travel and alternate timelines were introduced
Azeroth
How much of the Forsaken are even Lordaeron inhabitants anymore? I heard they went on several drives to undead and brainwash just about any human they could get their rotting finger-bones on, including Gilneas and Alterac.
The citizens of Lordaeron, idiot.
ghoul in the bottom left isn't looking at the viewer
So close to sovl, bvt vltimately sovlless
BASED
VENGEANCE FOR ZUL'JIN
the scarlet crusade
Who knows, I refuse to consider everything past vanilla as anything but bad fan fiction.
The people of Lordaeron. Lordaeronians? Alas, a conga line of bad decisions over many years has seen the scant living survivors estranged from the unliving "survivors".
Most, I'd reckon. Alterac was already mostly abandoned (save for the Syndics, and they're barely worth mentioning) well before the Forsaken started raising dead of their own accord, while Gilneas was already half-collapsed from the Worgen curse spreading like wildfire (who themselves cannot be raised by the means the Forsaken use) which limited the potential "recruits".
Even in vanilla there was a theory that Arthas’ sister was some NPC in dustwallow marsh using an alias, but it never went anywhere afaik and was probably just fans making it up, but technically Arthas has a sister we never saw until wow went to shit.
Vanilla already had plenty of stupid shit in it so that isn't saying much
Well a shitton of lordaeronian forsaken died in Classic, Wotlk, Cata, Legion and BFA. Since then, new forsaken had been risen from Gilneas (cata), Kul Tiras (BFA) and Stromgarde (Legion) and the night elves (also BFA)
Scourge
Forgot to add, the Scarlet Crusade offensive that temporarily conquered large parts of Silverpine in the heritage quest during Dragonflight also killed a good score of lordaeron forsaken
The Stromgarde Forsaken were from Cata, the risen Prince decided to take over the city and split from the Forsaken proper. They were then wiped out by artifact hunting players in Legion and any that survived got purged when Danath came back in BfA.
kek
Attacked by portal after portal of weird multi-dimensional dragons
Never once thinks "Maybe i shouldn't be doing this"
I know he was possessed by Sargeras but c'mon. Maybe he just enjoyed being the bad guy and defying armed opposition made him happy. Still don't understand how Mediv is meant to be a guardian, what exactly did he protect? Azeroth was better off without him
The Scarlet Crusade is still a thing in modern wow.
Weren't they destroyed like three times already? How the hell are they still alive?
wc3 is as bad as wow about it all
Giving Medivh a night elf model was an interesting choice
former lordaeron citizen betray their country by letting a foreign-born non human occupy their nation
former lordaeron citizen betray their country even harder by murdering their still living, still loyal countrymen
former lordaeron citizen go above and beyond in their betrayal by letting in their countries bestial arch nemesis they fought so hard against in life
why are they like this
People who use non-standard customization on these renders are actually retarded. That scarlet crusade member looks like a literal child with pubes on his face.
nah
you find snippets and explanations during the forsaken heritage quest in Dragonflight. You got some of the old blood still kicking, you got new blood willing to pick up the banner, you got recruitment among the unhappy, the disenfranchised and the bitter. It isnt outright states but at least implied that some of their number might come from former alliance soldiers seething that peace was made after BFA
Trolls.
Always has, always will.
Far as I can tell:
Most early defeats during classic were retconned.
Lost one major settlement during Wrath DK starting zone.
Were largely wiped out during Cata/MoP.
Reorganized as a parody of far right groups during BFA.
suppose you're right, wc3 was more that just a little overboard about it compared to what vanilla wow was
LORDAERON BELONGS TO THE CRABS
HAIL MAKRURA OVERLORDS
PRAWN PEOPLE PRAWN PEOPLE
In the old canon, the undead were biologically evil. They were also defending themselves.
cringe
Lost one major settlement during Wrath DK starting zone.
The armies of Hearthglen and Tirisfal were completely obliterated by the Lich King during the fall of the Scarlet Enclave and then all the Scarlets who left to form the Onslaught died in Northrend. Tyr's Hand somehow surviving to be killed by Balnazzar in Cata despite being literally right next to the Enclave is never explained.
indeed it was
they had ample time to recruit new members. After their latest defeat at the hands of the Death Knights in Legion 9 years passed. Thats more than enough to regroup and reform and regain strenght
You have shit taste, go back to x.
make successful IP
earn lots of money with it
fire everyone involved with it
devolve it into total slop
sell hats
?????
finance multiple failed new IPs
There's only one real answer
Season of Discovery is an "extension" of vanilla lore
the entirely new Scarlet Enclave raid means it's now canon that before WotLK the Scarlet Crusade:
openly knew Balnazzar was Dathrohan and in control of the order
were trying to "lightforge" dragons
brought back their own fallen as undead
were using not-yet-Grand-Apothecary Putress to make a New Plague of their own
temporarily purified Corrupted Ashbringer after looting it for themselves from Naxxramas
sorry, i've been here since before wow released
calling me an outsider doesn't work, outsider
The title really is up for grabs at this point. After this commie revolution in Undermine, maybe the goblins should take it.
Whoever can kill the inhabitants and take it over.
Technically Trolls.
Currently it's a death crater controlled by nothing.
I don't remember the once from Tirisfal being obliterated. Outside of the twenty or so times I did SCM, but I assumed that was declared non canon. It has been years since I did the DK starting zone though.
I do genuinely get the impression the SC was supposed to be effectively gone at the end of Wrath but they walked back from that. Similar to how there really isn't any justification for the Dark Horde still being around.
sounds retarded to be honest.
nothing you're saying is true. SoD does not affect retail lore
learn how to read dipshit
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The armies of Hearthglen and Tirisfal are less than a day's ride from New Avalon.
I mean, sod is just fanfiction, but the lore and story has gotten so bad that who even cares anymore
It was always stolen land from indigenous troll tribes. High elf and human colonizers are responsible for infringing on sacred aboriginal troll grounds and displacing the first nations with their bloody war of aggression. Its only right that trolls get back their stolen lands.
No, the trolls themselves are latter ursurpers of rightful Aqir lands.
Lillian Voss doesn't die because it's years before her canon death
players can't create the real Ashbringer because it's years before Tirion purifies it himself in canon
Ha ha yeah this is all a big joke that's never going to show up again
If the Scarlet Crusade weren't a bunch of cunts and just regular dudes called "Lordaeron Remnant" the UD starter zone sure would be awkward
Wrong, the Aquir are ursurpers of rightful elemental clay
Aqir were just minions of the ultimate usurpers, the Old Gods, who sought to take Primordial Azeroth from the Elemental Lords who ruled it
TO THE NORDS!!!
Fair enough. Does really make it sound like they meant for this to be the end of the SC only to change their mind.
The armies of Hearthglen and Tirisfal are less than a day's ride from New Avalon.
It's like a hour or so ride in game.
Not really.
You start massacring normal humans as early as Silverpine.
Why are Liliana Vess and Tyrion Lannister in world of warcraft?
Crossover events are all the hype right now. Overwatch has one every 2 weeks
One of the first quests you get out of Deathknell is to kill some Lordaeronian farmers and steal their pumpkins