Ocarina of Time's reputation never really recovered from this scathing analysis

Ocarina of Time's reputation never really recovered from this scathing analysis

if anything it made me appreciate it MORE and hate LTTP

All this vid told me was the amount of autism and spite it takes for a retard to justify not learning how to read and Z-target.

If you like a video game enough to want to watch a video on it, why would you click on a thumbnail that clowns on the characters in the game while some youtuber puts his self-insert character on top of it like he's the real main character?

His megaman video about the first level being a tutorial level destroyed an entire generation

The coolest enemy ever, the Iron Knuckle

I mean he has a point. Imagine if Dark Souls bosses were invulnerable for most of the fight and then became vulnerable in 5 second windows as the designated attack time.

It unironically did kek

youtube.com/watch?v=kPN_CAsQDCI

I fucking hate how sos still gets me to this day

lol you said anal

Love how Arin's entire argument in all his videos is "I have ADD"

Arin also destroyed the reputation of Sonic Adventure 1 and Mario Sunshine

People give Arin way too much credit

Arin releases this video

Everyone praises it and says he's right about everything

GameGrumps LP of OoT comes out

Everyone realizes that Arin is actually just shit at the game and turn on the video

Kel

Nobody talks about whatever your boyfriend said.

I see you there loomin

fuck

More like, Egoraptor's reputation never really recovered from this retarded "analysis".
Seriously, this was his last video in his Egoraptor persona before becoming le hecking wholesome reddit approved eceleb.

I do agree that looking around until you see a switch and then shooting it isn't a puzzle, though.

DAMN RIGHT..... MM MMM.

BWOOP MEGAMAN MEGAMAN THOSE PLATFO

To be fair, this is now the core of all zoomer arguments about why old games are actually bad. "I have ADHD and demand to be catered to at all times!"

Egoraptor made his video about 5 years too early.

I agree with him but he's still a faggot
Broken clocks and all that

More like Arin's reputation never recovered after this video. He should have just stuck to just making obvious game design observations for snes games.

Why the fuck are these age restricted? 30 year old here, what if I want to watch in incognito mode? At least AVGN isn’t age restricted

NIGGA

It spawned a wave of pseuds

This is the same guy who said CV4 was too easy, then couldn't beat it.
By the way, CV4 is an amazing game and OoT is better than Link to the Past.

Video games, faggot, VIDEO GAMES!

Man I would’ve love d to see him compared Donkey Kong Country to DK64

I want to make a channel that's these YTP videos with the unfunny distorted looped and loud noises removed

I don't understand how anyone could gush about LTTP except pure nostalgia. My first exposure to it was just the intro where you go rescue Zelda. Went back years after to play the real game and goddamn, is it a disappointment. Nothing is on par with that intro or its music. It's just all downhill.

he says the fuck word

Yes anon, OoT and ALttP are videogames

MM

the most easiest miniboss made him quit the LP

Arin has either mid takes that anyone would make, or the absolute worst possible shit takes ever conceived by mankind, with no other categories available.
The only completely true statement he's ever made is that he was cheated out of that one gameshow with the watermelon catapults. It was such a blatant act of fraud that it left no room for contention.

It does not hold up at all. Meanwhile, every time I replay OoT I like it even more. And I didn't even really like OoT when I first played it. I thought the controls were impossible and I didn't like that it wasn't a 2d game.

Pressing "shield" was literally too much for his little brain.
I've seen defenses of his bad gameplay that he's "playing a character" but when you aggressively shit on a game while completely failing to do what it expects of you WILLINGLY, that just makes you a reaction-baiting asshole.

He didn't alter the public opinion on OOT at all, really. The only game whose reputation he actually had an impact on was Castlevania 4. His major criticism of it is still one of the biggest ones brought up whenever that game gets discussed anywhere.

LTTP > OOT
Anyone who says otherwise is a retarded faggot. And that faggot Arin is 100% correct in this video. OOT is slog with shit combat mechanics, collectathon nonsense, and tons of boring parts.

Have you played LTTP this millennium? The whole game is the "boring parts".

There was a whole period of time where not saying LTTP was top 2 or 3 of Zelda games would have gotten you reamed a new asshole. Even during that time, I didn't understand what people saw in it and I personally liked the first one, Link's Awakening, and OoT exponentially more than LTTP Unless you played it when it came out, I don't see LTTP being all that amazing and never did. If you catch me on the right day, I'd legitimately put Zelda II up there.

Arin's a fucking retard who thinks the opening level to Mega Man X is the greatest achievement in video game history.

I'm clearly still mentally 11 years old because these videos make me giggle like a retard every time

Have you played LTTP this millennium? The whole game is the "boring parts".

If you think LTTP is boring parts, OOT is just a glorified retelling of it. LTTP is superior in almost every way.

I bet you can't explain why. LTTP has gorgeous sprite graphics, great soundtrack, top tier gameplay, improved on the 1st game (while not drifiting too far away from it).
You faggots are just shaped by algorithms saying "LTTP = bad"

Feel like that would had been a piss easy dunk too. Probably would still be praised as a gaming genius if he went that route instead of proving he's a retard with his shitty Zelda video.

Both games are fucking great. I don't understand people who love one and hate the other.

The Iron FUCKle

lole

Both games are fucking great.

OOT is not great. It's good at best

as I said, a glorified LTTP retelling

combat pretty shitty

dungeons mostly empty, unlike 2D Zelda games where you had some challenged as you got deeper into each dungeon

I'm a big fan of the gameboy games, personally. The mere existence of Link's Awakening and Oracle of Seasons precludes LTTP from making any "top 3" list.

OOT is the best game ever made. Cope.

what if I want to watch in incognito mode?

Just set your browser to auto delete your browsing history when you close it. It does the same thing.

The ONLY good Zeldo games are the ones Capcom made and Link's Awakening.

OOT is the best game ever made.

Sure thing, retard. Watch the ecelebs vid again. He might be a streamer fag but he makes some good points. It was a huge step backward in terms of what Zelda was.

The dungeons in OoT are fine. The combat isn't terribly deep but deep combat has never been a thing in Zelda really. And the plot of OoT is the bedrock that the entire series rests upon.

Link's Awakening.

When will this meme end? LA is shit

for some reason decide to do LTTP style gameplay on Gameboy (even though it only has 2 buttons as opposed to SNES 6)

this leads to constant fucking item switching

you even have to equip your fucking shield which you didn't have to do in LoZ or Lttp, it was just equipped and you had 2 slots to play with

every time you touch a rock or a pot without the power glove attached you get the "THIS ITEM IS TOO HEAVY" message. Every. fucking. time.

same with that booster item you get. It's the "THIS ITEM DOES THING" message. Every. fucking. time.

storyline is a fucking le dream

The dungeons in OoT are fine.

They're empty and unchallenging. Play 1 or LTTP. As you get deep into those dungeons you can enter a dark room filled with 6 bad guys who have shields so killing them is difficult. This kind of challenge didn't happen in OOT.

And the plot of OoT is the bedrock that the entire series rests upon.

It literally isn't. The bedrock plot is "Zelda taken by bad guy, save her" from 1.

Learn to parry.

that just happens over time anyway, LTTP is a bottom 5 zelda so it only gets worse as more games come out

Still better than the first fucking game which is an unplayable and cryptic mess, I consider Zelda 1 a beta of Lttp, the NSO SP version makes it at least somewhat playable, starting you off with some equipment and max rupees, but it’s still cryptic regardless, wish they did more of the SP editions, wonder why they stopped doing these

All his points are sour grapes because he grew up with an SNES and no N64. He's not even consistent. He'll brag about "seeing a treasure chest early builds anticipation!" Then the next moment he argues "Seeing an animation doesn't!" He's a complete hypocrite. And even your little LTTP champion admitted it came from a place of malice later on when he got dogpiled.

Goes to show any video you open with a caricature of the people you already know will disagree with you is going to be followed by pure bias.

LTTP is a bottom 5 zelda so it only gets worse as more games come out

You retards say shit like this but can't come up with a single reason to explain why. As I said, that eceleb made that dumb vid, so you've been fed algorithms of "LTTP = bad" vids for 10 years now.

Same thing halpened with his "analysis" of Castlevania IV. He kept talking about how easy it was and he couldn't beat it lol.

Pretty much every game after OoT calls back to or is trying to recapture it. Get fucking real.

Pretty much every game after OoT calls back to or is trying to recapture it. Get fucking real.

Callbacks do not equal "bedrock plot" you dumb fucking faggot.

Eh... I suppose so. The bar for NES games was a lot lower than SNES. It was a wilder Wild West of games in 86. But the cryptic puzzles and having an entire map to wander with only a couple poorly translated text tips in hidden rooms was not ideal. Definitely a game you were supposed to buy a strategy guide for.

I'd legitimately put Zelda II up there.

Zelda II rocks, I thought it was a contrarian meme until I actually played through it. Now I'm a bit sad that there's never going to be another Zelda game like it again.

taking him seriously ever

He completed the entirety of WW without knowing you can drop items instead of throwing them

Reminder Arin couldn't make it through Freddi Fish, a game for literal 3 year olds, without constantly consulting a walkthrough. Why should I take his opinions on video games any more seriously than your average games journalist?

I'm glad people are coming around to Zelda 2. I didn't really get it as a kid, but as an adult it was pretty solid.

I think the greater travesty in somewhat of a reverse of the usual kind of retard that whines about Sonic Games, Arin was actually right about OoT being a steaming pile of crap, but the fact that he's a retard assured people that can at a floor actually play games but are still retarded enough to think OoT is exceptional to pretend it still is.

Arin was definitely not right about OOT. At best he successfully finds a nitpick for his fellow ADHD spazzes will agree with.

"OH GOSH I HAVE TO WAIT 10 SECONDS TO SEE WHAT'S IN THE CHEST MY ADHD GOD HELP MEEEEEE"

I feel bad for anyone who doesn't have the patience to wait that long or read like 3 sentences before gameplay resumes. That's incredibly crippling to someone's ability to take in a story. Some of us out here read entire books. But a Nintendo children's game is above his reading level. Pathetic.

>"OH GOSH I HAVE TO WAIT 10 SECONDS TO SEE WHAT'S IN THE CHEST MY ADHD GOD HELP MEEEEEE"

I feel bad for anyone who doesn't have the patience to wait that long or read like 3 sentences before gameplay resumes.

So you're just ok with bad game design just because? LTTP you opened the chest and were on your way in 2 seconds. In OOT every text box moves slow, there's the same animations over and over and over again. And the same messages to. If you open a chest and get a bomb in the final dungeon you will get the "THIS IS A BOMB AND HERE'S HOW YOU USE IT" message. Not everyone is a fucking retard that needs constant hand holding.

I will never forgive him for making endure another generation of "ACTUALLY SA1 IS DOGSHIT"

Not even that, i have ADD and was never this retarded lol

Not everyone is a fucking retard that needs constant hand holding.

Arin definitely is though

Like I said, at best that's a nitpick. Most people will just tap A to clear the message and be on their way. But people like Arin, and you I guess, act like you have a timebomb in your stomach that will go off if you don't press directions to make your character move.

Anyways, OOT doesn't do that half as bad as Twilight Princess, which actively reminds you EVERY TIME YOU REBOOT THE GAME what every color ruppee is worth. Couple that with every chest in the game having ruppees and that's too much.

He's right, but most kids that grew with OOT can't accept reality, and you dare to suggest there's a better game (even if you also admit OOT is great) they'll throw a tantrum

ALttP's problem is that it's the Dragon Quest/Lord of the Rings of the Zelda formula, but somehow at the same time is in it's most awkward teen phase imaginable. Nothing in ALttP feels "alive." It's supposed to be a living breathing kingdom, but the one town in the game has like maybe 4-5 people living in it total, most of them are just some variation of being scared. Everything else is completely encroached in barren empty wastelands. Zelda 1 had technical limitations to point at, and even then everything felt like people were hiding in caves on their own showing how shitty everything is. Zelda 2 (which indeed is fantastic and in my top 3) actually had decent towns with tons of people. Link's Awakening had tons of people and more dialog than ever before at that point and everything felt fresh.

ALttP doesn't do anything new, and what it does is on almost all accounts worse than what came before except for the dungeons.

Most people will just tap A to clear the message and be on their way.

It doesn't work that way.

Anyways, OOT doesn't do that half as bad as Twilight Princess,

So you admit that OOT is bad? Just not half as bad as another game?

You're twisting my words. I admit OOT had nitpicks you can say against it. I said that in the very same post. Nitpick != "bad", it means there are things you could conceivably complain about. But name a game with not a single thing you could cite as an annoyance. You can't.

Nothing in ALttP feels "alive."

The game has more soul than any game that's come after it. And what isn't "alive" about it. You are literally just throwing out words. The village was a step up over 1 (which had no villages) and the little houses scattered around the map were fun (and "alive" to use your term).

Everything else is completely encroached in barren empty wastelands.

100% untrue. That's OOT. Lots of empty walking. Almost every screen in LTTP has something to do (an enemy, a house, bushes to cut, caves to bomb open, etc)

ALttP doesn't do anything new,

Improving on the old is sometimes better than "something new".
kys retard.

Definitely a game you were supposed to buy a strategy guide for.

No, Shiggy was trying to be a copywriter for the game after listening to his friend talk about the job, and they were trying to save space, so the clues were purposefully written to try and be as dense as possible while saying as little as possible. That's why the clues are so terse. That and strange translation choices.

They also didn't really do guides as much back then. In fact, people who bought LoZ wound up just calling Nintendo directly for help, and that's what started the 80s Nintendo Hotline call centers.

If you ever have the opposite opinion of Arin, you can be relieved in knowing you are on the correct side.

But name a game with not a single thing you could cite as an annoyance. You can't.

OOTs "annoyances" last the entire fucking game and are repeated constantly. And we haven't even gotten to the "HEY! LISTEN" from Navi which was pretty much Nintendo's way of telling their players that they're retards that need constantly hand holding.

Cool opinion. I disagree.

The game has more soul than any game that's come after it.

LOL, not when it's from the same series as Majora's Mask, chief.

Aaron: "All my old Newgrounds animating friends are massive pieces of shit and are super racist, sexists, homophobic and evil. I am a good person and totally progressive!"

All his Newgrounds friends: "You have said Nigger around us more than any person we have ever known."

Cool opinion. I disagree.

You actually agree.

"it's not bad"

"it's not half as bad as this other Zelda game"

You do realize there will be some Twilight Princess retard defending that games poor design the same way you are defending OOTs poor game design?

Majora's Mask,

Pure gimmick slop. Though I do appreciate the lack of Zelda rescuing in the game.

The game has more soul than any game that's come after it.

Genuinely it does not. Link's Awakening alone is better, as is Zelda II. It's immediately sandwiched between two superior and more interesting games. You can play ALttP in such a way that you're not even aware that Kakariko had people in it, and most of the houses are empty.

100% untrue. That's OOT.

False. Walk from your house to Eastern palace, then Zora's domain, then back down to Lake Hylia, then head over to the desert, then walk from the forest to Death Mountain. Your entire route, you will encounter 4 people total despite me describing every single major section of the map except for Hyrule Castle and Kakariko.

Improving on the old is sometimes better than "something new".

Weren't you that autistic faggot shitting up this thread by saying that OoT was just a remake of ALttP?

If that Twilight Princess "retard" told me it's a minor gripe in the grand scheme of the game, I'd have to agree with him. It is not a dealbreaker, and it, especially alone, doesn't make TP a bad game. Is it an annoyance? Yeah. But nitpicks are nitpicks at the end of the day. And claiming otherwise is pure Anon Babble melodramatic shitposting.

Seeing every edgy millennial internet troll turn into a faggot communist overnight was one of the most surreal things I've ever experienced in my life.

Link's Awakening alone is better,

See > as is Zelda II
Pure retard opinion. Zelda II is a good game with some problems. LTTP is the perfect evolution of 1.

False. Walk from your house to Eastern palace, then Zora's domain, then back down to Lake Hylia, then head over to the desert, then walk from the forest to Death Mountain. Your entire route, you will encounter 4 people total despite me describing every single major section of the map except for Hyrule Castle and Kakariko.

There's more to a world than just people. There's enemies, items to find, puzzles to solve, etc. Walk from Kakariko to Hyrule in OOT and you will encounter 0 people and just a few enemies to fight (nothing else).

Weren't you that autistic faggot shitting up this thread by saying that OoT was just a remake of ALttP?

I wouldn't be complaining if it improved upon LTTP, but it didn't.

You shouldn't throw around the word "gimmick" when it's fully realized and fleshed out. MM perfectly executed what it set out to do. That goes beyond "gimmick."

If that Twilight Princess "retard" told me it's a minor gripe in the grand scheme of the game, I'd have to agree with him.

Uh, you said it was "bad" in TP, but now he has to agree with you ? kys dumb dumb

Yeah. But nitpicks are nitpicks at the end of the day. And claiming otherwise is pure Anon Babble melodramatic shitposting.

It's not a nitpick when it happens consistently throughout the entire game. That + Navi make the game garbage.

Feels bad, man.

You shouldn't throw around the word "gimmick" when it's fully realized and fleshed out. MM perfectly executed what it set out to do. That goes beyond "gimmick."

Not really. "Dude, a 24 hour limit" is a gimmick. It would have been better without it.

No one cares about cringey Youtuber's opinions

It's an annoyance. I didn't declare TP "bad" just that feature is "bad." I think you are purposely twisting the things I said for a "gotcha" when I've been completely consistent.

He got pussy for the first time with a progressive mid libtard slut who he was too scared of losing so he abandoned his personality and friends just to adopt hers.
Many such cases.

It's an annoyance. I didn't declare TP "bad" just that feature is "bad."

So you admit that feature is "bad" in OOT. And no some "zomg people can't read a text box!" argument shit?
It's bad game design. It happens all the time in the game. Navi is just as bad. It hurts the game and the replayability.

Well lucky us, there is no 24 hour limit. It's a 72 hour limit.

Whatever it is. It's fucking stupid and the game would have been better without it. Ever wonder why Nintendo didn't adopt it for any other Zelda game (while at the same time consistently bring new ideas and gameplay design forward to new Zelda games)?

So elden ring?

Let me ask you, what do you think "nitpick" means? Do you think it means "good?" Or does it mean... "minor irrelevant complaint?"
Keep pretending to be fucking retarded though. Maybe someone else will give you pity (You)'s.

Dude you're in the same thread where people were whining about the prompts that pop up in Link's Awakening.
Yes, it's a problem that the game wastes time doing tech demo shit at every chest.
Pacing is fucking important in game design.

WAH WAH WAH
shut up troll

"minor irrelevant complaint?"

It's not minor nor irrelevant. Between Navi and opening chests it happens consistently for the ENTIRE GAME. It's bad game design.

Keep pretending to be fucking retarded though. Maybe someone else will give you pity (You)'s.

Ok retard

you: "ZOMG people can't even read a dialog box for 3 seconds!"

also you: "It's no that bad in OOT. It's SOOO much worse in TP"

and finally : "NOOOOO! It's just a nitpick!"

lose argument

resort to 2007 internet speak

kys retard

the video is refuted by any gamegrumps playthrough of any action adventure game in 3d

egoraptor is literally too retarded to press the shield button ever

Sorry, would you prefer
LE BAIT? Maybe I should depict you as a wojak?

It would be an entirely different game without the three day cycle. The way progression plays out doesn't work or make narrative sense in the world they made for this game without the gimmick. I personally like it but I understand the complaints.

Pacing is fucking important in game design.

This is what people don't seem to understand. A great example was when the LA Switch game came out:

Anon Babbletards: "The annoying item switching and constant text box messages aren't a problem in the GB game"

also Anon Babbletards: "ZOMG the remake of LA on Switch is great! It even gets rid of the annoying item switching and constant text box messages!"

See

Yeah I saw your retarded post about Link's Awakening. Let me just put you in your place real quick:

This is good.

Skill issue. Also the menu loads lightning fast, so double skill issue.

Skill issue.

Skill issue.

Skill issue.

Frothing fanboy reductionist of "thing that is not my thing."

That was really boring. Do you have a real opinion, or are you just trying to debate club the thread?

Zelda II is a good game

*Fantastic game.

LTTP is the perfect evolution of 1.

None of the things that are good about ALttP are shared with the things that are good about LoZ.

There's more to a world than just people.

Part and parcel of the adventure genre are people and quests. Without those, I might as well just play Gauntlet.

Walk from Kakariko to Hyrule

Problem is that when I leave Kakariko and arrive at Castle Town, I'm immediately met with living towns with characters that have personalities that make me feel like I'm in a world where I am on a quest to save them, giving meaning and stakes to what I am doing.

but it didn't.

OoT, on top of innovating the entire 3D game industry with shit people are still cribbing notes from today (like Z-Targetting), it was also a better world, made better use of 3D space, had better puzzles, etc. Fuck, even LoZ innovated and advanced gaming by such a large degree. ALttP is just shittier LoZ with prettier graphics. You could erase ALttP from history and I don't think much would change about the series.

LE BAIT? Maybe I should depict you as a wojak?

Or we can just talk like human, dumb dumb.

Ever wonder why Nintendo didn't adopt it for any other Zelda game (while at the same time consistently bring new ideas and gameplay design forward to new Zelda games)?

You literally answered your own question. Every game has a new "gimmick."

You might as well ask "WHY DON'T THEY HAVE ANOTHER GROW/SHRINK ZELDA? WHY DIDN'T THEY HAVE ANOTHER SEASONS ZELDA? WHY DIDN'T THEY HAVE ANOTHER WOLF ZELDA?"
You already know the answer. And it isn't "they were all bad."

Both are true though. Something can be both annoying and also not a problem. Nothing is contradictory about that.

Navi would tell you the listen even when exploring to find Grottos and shit. She barely ever did it in dungeons.

Everything falls apart when you watch Game Grumps and find out that Arin is beyond autistic, literally can't imgaine stuff in his head and believes that immersion doesn't exist and everyone is lying about getting immersed in worlds/stories

if you understand what "troll" means then the word choice was correct. You don't have a problem with the word, you have a problem with being called out.

>Skill issue.

You are just willing to accept any bad game design. Fucking sad.

*Fantastic game.

No it's not.

None of the things that are good about ALttP are shared with the things that are good about LoZ.

Really?

improved combat

new items that add to the gameplay (see hookshot)

improved sprite graphics

improved soundtrack

new enemies

more characters to interact with

more sidequests

Problem is that when I leave Kakariko and arrive at Castle Town, I'm immediately met with living towns with characters that have personalities that make me feel like I'm in a world where I am on a quest to save them, giving meaning and stakes to what I am doing.

I don't get this "town full of people" obsession you have. I'd rather have less people in a world that had lots to do than an empty world in OOT with people bunched in one place spouting NPC gab.

OoT, on top of innovating the entire 3D game industry

Mario 64 did that first.

it was also a better world

It literally wasn't. It was mostly empty (as in nothing to do).

, made better use of 3D space,

It was a 3D game you fucking faggot, LTTP was 2D. That's like me saying "Minecraft Movie had a better use of color than Citizen Kane".

had better puzzles,

Not true either. No Zelda game is known for great puzzles, it's not Myst.

. ALttP is just shittier LoZ with prettier graphics.

Let me get this straight

you: "OOT is better than LTTP because it has more towns and people"

also you: "LTTP is worse than 1 even though LTTP has more towns and people"

kys retard.

You literally answered your own question. Every game has a new "gimmick."

Uh, YES, it's a GIMMICK. Which is why they didn't bring it over. Thank you for admitting it's a GIMMICK like I said it was. Same way Wolf Link was a gimmick. Time gimmick was a bad gimmick.

The game came with a map in the box and I'm pretty sure I remember it telling you the location of all the temples. Other than that you could just ask the other kids at school who had played it for advice or, if all else failed, call the Nintendo Help Line and get yelled at by your parents for running up the phone bill.

I feel like this is an insult to autists. Arin is just one of those "no apple" brains.

Imagine getting filtered by MM. Poor special needs child.

This was a great series and you can't deny it.

any bad game design.

Define bad game design and good game design Cite specific examples from both that are totally 100% separated from Legend of Zelda and why you feel that way.

I hid your post after reading this line and will not reopen it until you sincerely and on good faith answer this question.

Granted the internet has an epidemic of retarded motherfuckers saying stupid shit and claiming they were trolling in retrospect like that makes the stupid shit they were saying not stupid.
Hearing an opinion you don't like doesn't mean you're being trolled.

holy shit
anon doesn't get common typing conventions like quotation marks. Used for quoting. I'd better be especially careful with this short bus faggot.

HEH, shit game design? More like a test for supreme gamers like myself that actually only makes the game cooler and betterer and ME cooler by association because I like it

Define bad game design and good game design Cite specific examples from both that are totally 100% separated from Legend of Zelda and why you feel that way.

Opening a chest in Final Fantasy doesn't result in a fucking 3 dialog box message every fucking time you get and item (and the same item at that). That's bad game design.
In Tomb Raider you don't have a fucking robot thing flying around your head nagging you ever 5 minutes. That's bad game design.
As I said in another post, NOBODY was clamoring for the same item switching and annoying text boxes in the LA remake. They were glad those things were gone.

Anon, assuming you're not the same faggot smokescreening, scrolling up makes it abundantly clear there's 1+ anons trying to stir the pot. He probably doesn't even have strong opinions about zelda but wants everyone to believe navi saying "HEY" sometimes is literally the end of the world.

Don't humor that adversarial nonsense. I won't.

He probably doesn't even have strong opinions about zelda but wants everyone to believe navi saying "HEY" sometimes is literally the end of the world.

Not the end of the world, the end of my continued enjoyment of the game. Let me guess, you wore and "OVER THE NOSE" shirt during the scamdemic because "just wear the mask, what's the big deal?"

He deserves his own nr.6 on that scale where he's outright making it so that other people can't see apples anymore

Wow, you are definitely not a troll, jumping to comparisons about Covid out of the fucking blue. I sure got proven wrong!

Abundantly clear it's someone else

Opens post with complaining about same faggotry

Still whining that people aren't allowed to think OoT sucks without it being trolling

Hiroshimoot stop giving me post cooldowns damnit this is aids

that video was more about the polish of late stage 2d era game vs the roughness of early stage 3d era games
most of the video is just about tech that was in every other 3d game of the time, and which oot ironically actually did better than most
he barely even touches on level design and instead just nitpicks on the unimportant things
and when he actually does, he talks about the puzzles; which are exactly the same types of puzzles that were in lttp
arin is just a contrarian, this is obvious in a lot of his takes on gaming

Maybe you should spend that extra cooldown actually reading the posts you're replying to. I think I made it pretty clear it doesn't matter to my point if it's you, 1 person, or multiple people. Just that the arguments were disingenuous.

That's the thing though, every enemy and boss in Dark Souls and Elden Ring are always vulnerable to receiving damage (except bed of chaos that everyone hates for this very reason) it's just that the player is a lot more vulnerable to dying before winning, so the pacing of the battle is dictated by the player and the strategy they choose to employ. It seems like these are the same, but they're definitely not. Notice how Iron Knuckle and the bull boss Goht from Majora's mask are actually fun to fight compared to nearly every other boss in the series because you can hit them whenever you decide and take the consequence if you fuck up. I'm not really trying to defend Erin or whatever, I just think he made a few valid points.

More like Arin's reputation as a gamer. Even Game Grumps comments sections make remarks about how ass he is at games ever since this video.

, jumping to comparisons about Covid out of the fucking blue.

You jumped to the "they don't like this game thing so to them it means the end of the world" shit.

troll

Again with this shit?

Just stopping by saying that there's probably only 2 different IP's ITT

This is what jannies want ig

Bro, this is a sequelitis thread. You're not going to "bait" me like that better? that you aren't here looking for a fight. How many times have we had this thread? How many times have people discarded Egoraptor as a person for his bad takes, bad gameplay, and grifty let's play channel?

So you're saying JonTron was right....

JON WINS!!!!

I am utterly baffled that they took away IP counter. Floored. It is such a net negative to thread quality when you can't call out samefags that much easier. Hiroshimoot must know this only helps astroturfing, right?

Just that the arguments were disingenuous.

Yes, we've been over this, you don't think people are allowed to think OoT are shit.

You're not going to "bait" me like that better?

Christ....
OOT is shit and I even got some other anon to go from

the text box shit isn't bad to

to

it isn't half as bad as TP

OOT is filled with bad game design.

Looking for switches under vases aren't puzzles neither
God I know that video is full of shitty arguments but this one just makes me angry for some reason
A Link to the Past is a top view game so of course the switches will be on the ground and the only way to hide them is to put objects over them
Ocarina of Time is a 3D game so of course they also put switches on the walls and sometimes they are in tricker parts of some rooms to hit
I still don't understand why he bitched so much about it when it's fundamentaly the same just adapted for a different style of game, especially when Ocarina still have switches on floors
Is like if someone hated Super Mario 64 for being a full realized 3D game instead of being a 2D platformer with 3D graphics
Arin makes no fucking sense

When you don't have a good argument to accompany it? Yes.

I am utterly baffled that they took away IP counter. Floored.

Are you really?
Does it at all surprise you that a minigamergate of some brazillian listing all the games one company was paid to consult on resulted in the administration doing something completely retarded with obscene detrimental impacts to the site itself?
You realize this wouldn't even be the first time they did something that stupid and retarded.

NESfags can't handle OoT because they're miserable impatient cavemanchildren who have no tolerance for any sort of story or set dressing/animation flourish (even LttP is too much story for them if Egoraptor button mashes through it and can't even get basic fucking crucial details about its story right)

zoomers can't handle OoT because it doesn't take them by the hand at every step of the way nor leave them fully to their own devices in an "all content is optional and you have god power tools from the start" sandbox

Euro boomers can't handle OoT (or other N64 games) because, to this day, they will absolutely never forgive Nintendo for them and Mattel overpricing the NES in parts of Europe

How does OoT continue doing it?

who exactly?

didn't that BR dox himself by accident and try to set up his own counter-consultancy

zoomers can't handle OoT

i am taking the word "zoomer" away and putting it on top of the fridge
you'll get it back when you've proven you can be responsible with it

I don't know, nor care. Hell the only reason I give a shit about the mass bans when gamergate happened the administration nuked most of the people that actually liked and more importantly, played the videogames they talk about.
My point being, it's completely within the bound of the current site administration to do something like making it easier for a consulting agency to samefag completely absent the problems (and opportunities for shilling, see the ENTIRE fucking catalog repeatedly being overrun with spamvertisements for shit) it'd create in its wake.

So you're saying it's been a successful thread to troll then?

Your and his mom never recovered from that SCATTING ANALisis and neither did you.

So you're saying it's been a successful thread to troll then?

You: "Ok trolls don't love and worship OOT"
kys tardo

NESfags can't handle OoT

As a NESfag, I disagree. I think OOT is the finest the series has to offer. I was never a big Zelda 1 guy though.

Your technique could use work. It's not effective when you act trolled.

trolled

All these dumb words just to hide the fact that you lost. OOT is filled with bad game design. I'm sorry if you can't handle that fact, but most tranny faggots can't handle facts.

I guess it's just specifically Z1fags then. Come to think of it, they do like to snobbily stamp their feet every so often to insist that their game is the only REAL Zelda experience just because it's the first. does Touhou get this shit? It'd be really goddamn funny if it did.
Uh-oh. Where'd you get stuck, anon?

Every fucking modern game dev needs to watch that shit so we can stop doing this shit where the first half of every game is the tutorial and there's yellow paint on everything.

I challenge every SA1 and 2 defender to play through the characters that aren't Sonic or Shadow. While we're at it, play werehog too. On Wii.

Unfortunately Arin's lessons from MMX are paper-thin. He's right about X5's annoying, intrusive word bubbles, but what is that worth? "Don't do that!" OK, lesson learned. But you can't teach people with his X1 lessons, because 3D games don't just present you with a wall, and 2 buttons that do something. Things get infinitely more complicated when you're dropped in a big 3D area, and you have more places to go than just "right."

I am deathly curious where you're meeting these "Z1fags".

That's because AVGN is for children and GG is for men.

Gomess from the Stone Temple. He never fucked around to get more hearts or much really so he got up there only to die.

Mainly on forums, and Switchfag retards here who claim to be Z1fags just because Aonuma vaguely compared BotW to Z1.

I have gone back and played the other characters, and I'm telling you: Sonic friend gameplay is overhated. Knuckles/Rouge feels good, though I wish the detector was a scale and you could find all 3 at once. Meanwhile Tails/Eggman mechs are legitimately fun if you understand the point of HOLDING THE LASER and not just button mashing, which annihilates the challenge (and your ending score).

spoiler

Nah those fags just try their best to forget THRtP ever existed
and 99.9999999999999% of touhoufags haven't even played the PC-98 games

The balloon in Clock Town.

Switchfag retards here who claim to be Z1fags just because Aonuma vaguely compared BotW to Z1

I don't know if these people exist because everyone in Zelda threads on Anon Babble after Breath of the Wild released either doesn't exist or is a screaming strawman.

last video uploaded a month ago with only 62k views

irrelevant youtuber

deep combat has never been a thing in Zelda really

TotK opened shit up to the point where it's like playing DMC with any item you want

He's Anon Babblecore.

As someone who beat that game, no not at all. It has more depth than botw, but BARELY.

ARIN WINS
SILVER WINS
SONIC WINS