Why did deadlock fail?

Why did deadlock fail?

they abandoned it to make a super secret build for youtubers and streamers

Looks like shit. Most people play mobas for the cute girls

What's deadlock

sweet bb inc game

Oversaturated market. It competes with Overwatch, DOTA, and TF2 simultaneously; as well as any other multiplayer shooter out there. The fact is if you're interested in a game like Deadlock you have more options than you know what to do with. Valve keeps wanting to chase a new game full of esports and microtransactions when it already has CS, DOTA, and TF2.
And really detaching it from the HL universe was a mistake. Went from expanding an established universe with a large established fanbase with a spinoff game to "hey, here's a whole new universe that you may or may not care about, oh darn looks like people don't care :(".

Lady Geist's character design was promising.
Then I bailed when I realized her design was the exception and not the rule.

logo is a baby getting creampied

What were they thinking

A 3rd person shooter moba by Valve that hasn't properly been announced or released that people here claim has failed because the invite alpha didn't keep 100,000 players at all times.
They then moan that it's not another game or compare it to hero shooters of entirely different genres and complexity.
It's fun but you're not missing out by waiting for something more open or official.

Oversaturated market. It competes with Overwatch, DOTA, and TF2 simultaneously

It competes with a dead game, a decade of game and a 2 decade old game

I don't even know any mobas that came out in the last few years either. The last remotely successful one might have been the pokemon one.

No one was waiting on deadlock, it was extremely easy to get in. It was public knowledge with open doors.
It's just ugly mediocre shit of a game that no one would even bother with if it wasn't by valve

Ugly characters. I don't understand why this is so hard to fucking understand. People want attractive characters. That's it. You do that and people will come. If your game also happens to be fun, then people will stick around.

I feel like I'm speaking a different fucking language to everyone else.

The game isn't fun enough to have such an insufferable fanbase.

I already play dota a lot. If I didnt play dota a lot i would play deadlock more.

None of those games are actually 'dead', they're just not FOTM. That's the problem. This isn't like the 90's or 00's where a game's lifespan is measured in months or years, games keep being played long after they're no longer of any financial benefit because nobody turns off the lights and if they did then it'd do more damage than just leaving the servers up.
People who grew up playing video games have big libraries full of games that are very much playable whenever they want to play them, and this means every new game has to compete with every other game on a person's library. Sometimes the new game wins, sometimes the old game wins. If Valve actually wants any new MOBA or shooter to be successful, they need to convince people who spend every evening on DOTA or TF2 to make the switch.

Because it was made by known scammers who commit false advertising and fraud.

Valve screwed over the Artifact fanbase by cancelling the Artifact 2.0 beta without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.

so this is where moenbryda went when she died

mobas need lolis

Because all of the ugly DEI designs of cour- AAAAAAAA WAIT NO MAKE HER UGLY AGAIN!!!

because dei characters and the ugliest blandest setting

Game gets leaked by a shitty TF2 youtuber

Massive public demand due to it being a new Valve game

So much so that Valve is forced to launch closed alpha

Game is obviously in a very rough and unpresentable state

People bitch and complain

Valve makes updates that change gameplay in significant ways

People bitch and complain

Valve forced to make changes to appeal to the retards who expected a live service game out of a rushed alpha

People bitch and complain

Valve announces that they are going to slow down on updates to actually work on the fucking game

People bitch and complain

It's leaked that there is a secretive, more exclusive version of the closed alpha because the mass majority have dogshit ideas and provide no actually meaningful input

People bitch and complain

Next to zero sex appeal. Nobody wants to see Tumblr potatoes anymore.

Ugly DEI game
No controller support
2 big name studios to compete against and several smaller ones too.

What was the sex appeal in TF2? CS?
I'm unfortunately aware of who you guys get off to in Dota...

I had blast, when first wave of invites dropped. Month or two forward and it started to feel way too competetive for my taste. Bikini vindicta was amazing skin, who ever did this

What was the sex appeal in TF2? CS?

TF2

Pretty much the entire cast can appeal to a woman (or homo) in some fashion.

CS

The appeal here is quite narrow I will admit but it exists. 'Man in uniform' is all I have to say.

not sex appeal but both TF2 and CS appeal to male power fantasies of being some tough nameless badass soldier

The game failed because it's DEIslop. If the characters looked good and weren't a bunch of niggers and gays the game would be successful.
The second issue is that it's a clusterfuck with too many stupid mechanics some idiot just crammed in. You can just have a normal shooter without stupid loot and lanes and trying to be Dota.

Invite only alpha

Full of Russians

Killing casual to focus on rank in a closed alpha test

Disgusting mesh of art styles as the devs desperately to convert one ugly ass game into another

MOBA

Turd person MOBA

DEI

Last hitting

Last hitting last hits

Huge ugly and confusing map

It's ugly
It's confusing
and it's shit!

DEI stuff and the fact that it's MOBA. It's not too late to add a hero shooter gamemode.

They made the cutest girl cuter

Play the game

It's boring as fuck

Watch the game

It's just a giant cluster fuck of shit and effects on the screen

no ty

It's not even out yet

Compieslop

Hot take: she should look like her old model at the start of the match and like that when all her abilities are maxed out

a character from valorant

They 100% need custom games on launch to keep the playerbase from metaslaving.

BBBB (Big Busty Blue Bitch)

I swear only Anon Babble that said deadlock is failed. how is a game failed if its not even officially released yet, everyone else know this because its the logic.

Google the name of the newest video game from Valve

Just get pictures of a single female from Valorant

They should have not picked such a retarded name lmao

because its the logic

Nice try.

it was way too hard

needlessly convoluted item system and somehow even more snowball happy than League or Dota are.
Also really bad about where your getting hit from.

In the end, it was the FOMOslop that Anon Babble accused other still alive games of being.

I'm still shocked that no one seems to care that this is Valve. I get it, they've been dead ever since Portal 2 (arguably before that even). But still, the blatant trend-hopping and lack of anything compelling AT ALL is just so disappointing.

I wouldn't give a single fuck about this game if it were made by anyone else, but it's Valve. I still don't give a fuck, but it's just sad. First Artifact, then the Dota Autochess, now a bland hero shooter. Not a single win, or success or ANYTHING noteworthy for the last decade.

Its actually kind of amazing, and unsurprising how much DOTA fucked up Valve's ability to make games.

They did have HL Alyx as a W but thats on fucking VR.

People tolerate it in a MOBA because that's more of a pure numbers game, but getting snowballed is much more annoying in a shooter where you're a lot more connected to the action. When you shoot an enemy and literally see your bullets start to hurt them less and less, it becomes viscerally frustrating to the point that a later win does not entirely cancel out that frustration. It's why real shooters tend to keep their teams on rough mechanical parity the entire time and reward the winning team with "soft" bonuses like advantageous terrain.

too much superfluous bullshit like farming surrounding the core mechanics like shooting

SOMEONE LEAK THE SEKRIR CLUB BUILD ALREADY

They're not sending their best pajeets...

ITS NOT OFFICIALLY OUT

ITS A BETA

THEYLL PATCH IT

I DONT WANT TO BE.... ALONE

This game is proof you should never listen to the player base of your game. People are too fucking stupid to even know what they want.

YOU DONT UNDERSTAND I NEED TO PLAY AN UNFINISHED BUGGY MESS ITS NOT FAIR ONLY STREAMERS AND VALVE EMPLOYEES ARE TESTING IT

I love how the public appha was just smoke and mirrors for months.

It's just unfinished and people moved on.

NO. ONE. WANTS. TO. LAST. HIT. IN. A. SHOOTER!
That is why it failed.

Because Valve planned it to fail.
They never wanted it to go public this quick.

DOTA fucked up Valve's ability to make games.

Dota set the money bar too high. For a project to get any sort of traction in Valve, it needs to promise obscene amounts of money to attract developers to work on it in hopes of getting a cut of it through the bonuses. Dota 2 made so much fucking money setting the bar so high that the only thing that could get any traction was fucking Artifact because the developers were promised insane returns on the triple-dipping monetization model.

until i can play it on release, games do not exist to me

It is already released. If a game is available to the public to play, it is released. Your arbitrary standards mean nothing.

How do I get invited to the pre pre alpha bros...

It is invite-only and I have not received an invite.

(You)r lack of standards mean nothing to me, if it's not released, i will ignore it.

Weirdos kept spamming pictures of Ivy and it chased normal players off, killed the game

Everyone I know who stopped playing it only stopped cause nothing was happening, so they ended up playing other stuff like marvel slopvals which constantly adds new stuff or went back to their old daily games. Sounds like it was boring as fuck and failed to take full advantage of how bored people were at the time with their forever games.

Dota is literally the gayest game in the world

From my friendgroup they didn't like how long the matches take

the modern gamer doesnt care about gameplay and needs a battepass to keep playing something

grim

remember when a multiplayer pvp game would release with like 3-6 different modes or maybe even custom modes/servers for people to enjoy and somehow found a way to keep people engaged just by the promise having some fun?

How does that make the Jews money?

How does that relate to Deadlock?

Don't worry, compendium and lootboxes will save deadlock from being forgotten, surely all those turd world bots will keep this game afloat!

how does that relate to a game that only has one boring as fuck game mode with one singular map and absolutely zero room for player creativity

retarded faggot, I swear modern gamers deserve the games they get. mobas have broken you pathetic bucks into accepting less content over the years

Unbalanced shit.
Some hero can press Ulti to win.
Some hero's ulti is situational.
Some hero's ulti is dog shit garbage.

Well yeah, there's more competition in video games now. Why would you play game where number doesn't go up when you can play game where number visibly goes up and gives me things.

You're a retard if you don't understand this. Remember people just trying to unlock random fucking armors in Halo? Imagine if that had a battle pass in it's peak. It's be like fucking crack but also it was competing with literally nothing until cowaduty 4 and prestige grinding.

They were thinking you wouldn't notice

so true bro lets play some rivals since they added a battle pass to that game

zoomers are absolutely tasteless slave niggers good lord

male power fantasies of being some tough nameless badass soldier

CoD did that too and now it's a clown fiesta with dragons, clowns, f*males (in clown outfits) and whatnot. And apparently it sells better

I have no conclusion to this

Yeah no shit retard the game literally isn't finished yet. None of the assets or code is finalized so they can't even give the player base a solid base to make custom games with.

They've experimented with other modes and layouts.

Why would I play something just for the battle pass you retard? I'm saying people want goals like grinding stuff dip shit. You clearly missed the point and just look at your favorite buzzword and point like a drooling retard. Some shit sticks because it's easy for people to make their own goals but if your goal is to "just play the game and have fun" it's not gonna last long unless you have autism.

too complicated

too clusterfucky

matches can be too long

Do you really want to do speed homework everytime you play an online shooter?

your generation is broken, you have a defective brain

the game literally isn't finished yet

Holy shit, retarded nigger is finally catching on? It's taken valve this long to "finish" a game that only has one map and one game mode? And you're mindblown that no one gives a single shit about it? Modern "gamers" deserve the shit products they get kek, they shill for these companies for free. You're a loser.

SHOOTING GAME

level up

you have stop to level up abilities

you have to buy shit

you have to sell shit

you have to farm and jungle shit

you have to last hit

At least games like Assfaggots let you relax. They overengineered a game because number manipulation GOOD and FUN

I don't think the small Deadlock team even wants that many people to give a fuck about it now. It's why they immediately created a secret alpha build so they can ignore the public playtesters.

It's bad and no one cares about it because valve is actually playing 4D chess right now.

Unable to grasp a simple concept that people even played Quake arena for

Do you think people just played that "Just for fun"
No they played it because the action of playing with people over the internet was new and engaging at the time and they wanted to be better than their opponents. But you're too rose tinted to be able to see anything other than muh battle pass and drop ad hominems because you have no argument lmao.

Not a single win

Fuck you blackpilling nigger
They made HL Alyx which is undoubtedly the best VR game TO THIS VERY DAY

only sexy mod available

It's over...

i.e. for me

It stopped getting updates which is important for a hero based game

The game is physically, mentally and visually exhausting
The average person's brain cannot juggle 30 straight minutes of twitch shooter gameplay while processing last hitting, gold counts, map awareness, cooldowns, and all the other bullshit that comes with moba gameplay

Counterstrike works because you can turn your brain off and shoot some heads by flicking your wrist
Dota works because even though there's a lot of information to process it's still a slow-paced game

The only genre that comes close to being as demanding as Deadlock is RTS and it's unpopular for the same reasons

Make the best fidget spinner

WOoooooooOOooo I HECKING LOVE AGING GIMMICKS
I think the thing that still holds them up is that they somehow created the best physics engines to exist in any games.

zoomers are absolutely tasteless slave niggers good lord

Millennials paved the way for this behavior long before zoomers had jobs and the money to buy battle passes and skins, when they were p2wing/RMTing in MMOs and buying/selling earbuds in TF2. Millennials were the first one to place monetary value on in-game items and when devs decided to monetize that untapped goldmine, millennials ate it up.

probably the most mentally straining game i have played lol especially in the higher mmr brackets

Dota works because even though there's a lot of information to process it's still a slow-paced game

In Dota I can pick dusa or drow or PA and tend to my rice paddies for twenty minutes, just zoning out and muscle memory my CS and jungle timings. Even mid mindgames can be zen since it's a clean 1v1, you occupy your brain with only a rune rotation or a cheeky sunstrike, it's the supports that have to strategize and get mentally drained
Deadlock is way too fucking emotionally, physically and mentally demanding from you, I feel I need amphetamines just to play it adequately. But it would make for a great esport for this reason

Yall are still seething over this game?

Chill out uncs lmao
HL3 is coming out before this

its a fucking boring game

I requested a key, and didn't get in. It wasn't open door.

Hopoo is prototyping Risk of Rain 3 in Deadlock

Make it happen

Most people play mobas for the cute girls

Mentally ill poster.

As it's made by Icefrog, there's an autistic obsession to have seventy-three thousand layers of gameplay depth.
Which is fine for the initial months of the game where everyone is learning together, but starts to fall apart once a meta forms and experienced players roflstomp anyone who hasn't gone through the 10-hour youtube tutorial college degree to have any idea what's going on.
I had a lot of fun with it for a couple of weeks but that's when the MOBAisms started creeping in and every match was people screaming at each other for not making the optimal play in every scenario. Good reminder of why I migrated to singleplayer or coop games

It hasn't even released, just give it 2 more weeks

Oversaturated market. It competes with Overwatch, DOTA, and TF2 simultaneously; as well as any other multiplayer shooter out there.

Is "oversaturated" the new buzzword? I also see it overused in regards to Marathon, the extraction shooter.
Those aren't saturated genres whatsoever. There's only a few good games of each. Most are old.
Stop parroting slogans.

Im just waiting for it to come out desu

Just cuz you rock the broccoli cut doesn't mean that moba isn't a boomer slave genre, nice try tho

This too.
Last hitting is the most mindnumbing shit ever.

Mobas are for fags

Oversaturated typically means why would someone play X over Y or Z. Why would you play Marathon over Escape from Tarkov? There's not enough market to fit this shit in because it's niche unless you're doing something special like Dark and Darker.

Hope this helps!

holy shit every week i do a Anon Babble check-in and you always have a thread. why are you so obsessed? kek

Why would you play Marathon over Escape from Tarkov?

Because you've already played Tarkov and are bored of it?
Because you prefer the futuristic theme?
Because you want a faster moving game?

Hope this helps!

idiots still salty they suck at the game and newfags trying too hard to fit in with posts like this

have you played this game

HL Alyx was set the bar for VR games but poorfags refuse to acknowledge it

repeat things

it’s a meme

Well is there a market for run and gun future Tarkov that isn't filled by the other 114 extraction shooters already on steam?

Hope this helps!

It was, in fact, helpful. Thank you.

there exist 100 bad RTS games on Steam, therefore RTS is an oversaturated genre

i am very intelligent :)

also i think the game is fun, and its core values appeal to me, but i don't have remotely enough time for it.
i imagine that's what everyone else realized, at least in my age bracket-- the skill ceiling is so high that even the best players haven't plateaued or noticeably slowed down in their growth. the only growth deterrent are patches that drastically change mechanics or power balance. otherwise it'll escalate to the point where gameplay looks like GunZ.
there's just no way to keep up unless you dedicate your life. but it's always stayed in the back of my mind because it's the closest to my ideal pvp game.
makes sense, kek. at least i acknowledge i'm relatively bad, but i don't think the game is, and i'm not salty about it.

Age of Empires, Total War Franchise, Command and Conquer are all bad!

Maybe you just don't like RTS games?

Hope this helps!

he is arguing RTS is an oversaturated genre to avoid the ego pain of admitting he was wrong

I accept your concession. Please be more dignified in defeat next time.

We could've gotten TF2 global offensive instead of this.

There's 100 bad games I would never play

But it's not oversaturated!

Maybe take a mental evaluation?

Hope this helps!

I miss playing the game but I don't want to burn myself out playing the alpha. Hopefully Volvo comes what a pretty much final build late this year or early next one.

let's make the Hispanic character fatter

lol lmao

Because they nerfed Kevin, buncha faggots. Are any of the new heroes fun? I haven't played in almost a year now. Or did I get baited and shit like Doorman or Bookworm aren't actually playable yet and only accessible via console command in training.

They're only available to the special snowflake client that most regular deadlock players can't access.

The actual CSGO influenced updates were dogshit though. Nobody wanted weapon skin slop or Casual. Operations/Campaigns were OK but didn't really add anything to the game

Basically Valve hated that russians and compniggers flooded the invite alpha so they made a new secret club.

I cannot stress this enough, tf2niggers deserve nothing

Another day, another Mo&Krill win.

I had fun and played decently well, but my friends sucked ass and dropped it. Not willing to play by myself so I left, too. Maybe we'll get back once they make a 1.0 release *dotards sniggering in the corner*

dynamo, ivy, McGinnis look worse

man...

Millennials allowed lootboxes to proliferate; welcomed them, even. No wonder the industry went to even worse shit when your gen started getting dev jobs

That’s a weird creampie.

Because it was a tpsassfaggots with characters designed by sweet baby inc (literally).

Niche genre is filled by a few popular games

100s of slop games created

Yet the amount of players that enjoy this genre is small

Supply>>>>Demand

Somehow this means it's not oversaturated

It's almost like they need to create something to standout because it's by the definition over saturated

made a new secret club

How the fuck do you access it

The game is built with ASSFAGGOTs in mind and I'm too fucking old and busy to keep up with the inevitable mountain of bullshit that I have to practice in order to stay competitive in this genre.
The items, neutral creeps, ults, that thing that spawns every once in a while that you have to deliver, the not-roshan in the middle of the map, the escape routes and potential flanking angles on a god damn 3D map, builds for the character I'm playing plus every other fuckhead in the game, and whatever shit I'm not thinking of. I might have tried learning it a decade ago but I have too much shit on my plate now days.

Reach eternus 6

Someone on Anon Babble said 1000+ games played.

Funniest thing is that they could easily repurpose Deadlock to a kino PvE game if the ASSFAGGOTS doesn't pan out.

I have over 1k games and don't have access so that's wrong.

Not true. Valve is only hand picking internal playtesters and some non-compnigger high level players.

Risk of Rain 3 moment

I am going to find the fucker responsible for permabuffing this broken dishonest character and kick him in the balls.

I hope we get an aviation-based gremlin hero.

dota but third person shooter

dishonest

when the game has shit like Bebop, Pocket, Geist, Kelvin...

you are completely off track here
the amount of money dota, or any of their games make is miniscule compared to the money steam brings in

that makes it so the devs can literally work on whatever they want, even if it's really nothing at all

Valve actively sabotaging CS2 and putting effort into Deadlock

people still choose to play CS2

Fucking fix your game, Gaben, you fat fuck.

new hero labs characters are all white men/attractive women

did valve listen to Anon Babble?

I am starting to wonder if the people who made the godawful Neon Prime designs are even the same people who made the more recent Deadlock ones.

It feels like valve trying to force a genre evolution sorta like what dota did for rts games but it either isn't executed properly or people aren't ready for it. Maybe the ultra super secret no girls allowed treehouse version of the game nails it but I think they blew their load too early.

No, it's just Hoopo designs.
Deadlockbabs have already earned their boogeyman that will be blamed for every bad update, like dotards and Campo Santo, and the game hasn't even released yet

or maybe you shouldn't try that shit when you've been AWOL from the game making department for years, no one is going to just accept your game without any question at that point.

you've been AWOL from the game making department for years,

That's not exactly true.

too much farming, maps too complex/big

Remove levels
Remove last hit

There I fixed the game, it's fun now.

come on, Alyx itself isn't going to carry their name

have dogshit ideas and provide no actually meaningful input

Why are you acting like that isn't exactly what Valve are looking for? pic related

retarded people shouldn't be allowed to play games
if those things are too much for you, then you need to go back to playing with play-doh

The game isn't fun tho, even tho I do like characters like shiv and wraith

nobody wants to rape his wrist csing motherfucking creeps in 3d, its fundamentally broken

They already got rid of last hitting you autists.

There's still denies but jnstead ofnplaying the autistic ain labs minigame you can instead go aggressive and zone out opponents instead.

I like the theory that Sweet Baby was actually involved and they had a hand with the Neon Prime designs. Because look at THIS shit.

I actually could not believe even Valve "we love barashit" Software designed this.

And I forgot the image like a retard.

Gamers don't want Sweet Baby inc products anymore

is it still possible to get into this game as a complete newfag?

Have you played Dota before?
This is a very important question.

no sorry you're too old now, you don't have the neuroplasticity

i played like half of the tutorial 10 years ago

TF2 global offensive

Thats just what comp players want to turn TF2 into if they somehow managed to remove random crits.

the game isnt even out yet holy shit and people are asking if its too late to jump in and if the game is dead or not
we are cooked

fucking ewww
i cant even figure out which deadlock heroes these are

Geist, McGinnis, Ivy, Bookworm, Boho, Vampirebeat

Man these designs are so fucking cute. The game is going to have so much waifu material. Can't wait for Vindicta's redesign, I hope they keep her barefoot.

Certified truth meteor strike.

Is this a moba thing? What does it mean?

Dynamo

???

Wraith?

Is that right?

The UI for this game is literally the meme picture Anon Babble made about borderlands but worse, but it's ok when Valve does it.

Deadlock?
More like dead game, am I right?

It's always the same complaints from the same third world niggers in these threads about how "le exhausting" it is, because they're fucking shitass casuals. Go the fuck back, you're not wanted. That's why Valve made a secret playtest, to get away from you faggots. You contribute NOTHING.

If I had to guess:
top is bebop (orange colour scheme, looks like a hook gun in her hand)
middle is Yamato (japanese samurai helmet horns, still has her long ponytail poking out from under the cloak)
bottom is either Wraith (gun has the same weird semi-circle top grip/ironsight) or Geist (ethereal arm)

Tedious game for slaves.

This guy LOVES early access slop

subliminally signaling "the (elderly) white man is OUT, the (young) minority/woman is IN" through the roster didn't help

The game has bad shooting

The game has bad farming

The game has bad UI

Valve gave up

Something else idk you're all retarded

It's not even out yet calm down
They probably stopped development publically because you're all complaining too hard
It'll resurface in a few months and look completely different

The funniest part is everyone saying Valve gave up. People kept telling me I was a schizo that Valve had an internal that was far far along than what we're playing and turns out they really were autistic enough to have a secret build.

Yeah remember Gabe's reaction to the HL2 leak and people's reactions? Valve are sensitive to what people think of their game.
100% they actually listened, made it dark and are improving it so you retards can't complain about it further.
They want to make it right and rerelease it, and quite frankly that's probably the exact thing to do.
Whether they can do it or not is another question but they've completely overhauled games just before release before.

Already happened more than a decade ago.
Literally copy pasted csgo's skin tier system, skin wear and trade up shit as well as operations which are called contracts in tf2.
God this game has been so shit for so long now. Current fanbase of game and their e-celebs didn't even experience tf2 before the TF:GO update.

yeah thats one of the valid complains
it combines dota with high apm movement and twitchy shooting, playing optimally is not for me (thank god they removed heavy melee cancel)
my fucking wrists explode from crouch jumping, sliding and wall jumping across the map
compared to cs the movement in this game is good and deep now but it is exhausting

You need all that information in this genre of game, they just need to compact it

Last hitting and especially denying is a core Dota feature, where when a lane creep is below 50% HP, you can target them and euthanize them yourself to deny the enemy the chance of killing them himself and earning the gold. Vital technique for tilting your opponent.
liquipedia.net/commons/images/d/d6/Vo_nevermore_nev_deny_03.mp3

Except that doesn't really work in a 3D shooter because

you have to twitch aim, while you don't need to in Dota since it's an RTS and autoattacks don't need to be aimed, only timed

it's very very very ping dependent, since Dota has heavy lag compensation due to being an RTS, while lag compensation in a shooter would cause rubberbanding and shots fired with the crosshair on an enemy to miss.

When did you fags last play this lasthitting isnt as important anymore

deny the enemy the chance of killing them

Lol, adding more troll features to a shooter seems satanic as fuck.

played like 2 matches since that change, now its just hurling abilities in lane at each other which is kind of boring
i liked the chill laning, even 1v1s you could win by just farming instead of mindlessly brawling

Dynamo, Geist, Wraith

You can even deny your own teammates under certain circumstances to deny the enemies a kill.
Now that I think about it, a Deadlock hero spell that can kill your own teammates if under a certain threshold and deny the kill should be added, the game is lacking in spells that can grief your own team like Dota

you vill brool
and you vill be happy

Do not tell icefrog.

you can still be an aimtraining lanetard by last hitting all your opponent's kills

Because Dota won

No you do not.
For examples, the K/D/A & Last hits/denied can be hidden in the menu until you press Tab.
There's zero (0) occasion that you need to check the K/D/A on the fly.
Do not defend shit game design.

We're getting Deadlock 2 instead

self-esteem so fucking low that it made them feel like they don't even deserve to goon to pretty fictional girls so they resorted to fantasizing about some ugly fucking gargoyle abomination

Probably isn't the main reason this game died, but I'm sure that most people who've seen ivyfagging didn't think twice about sticking around.

It's a perfect cocktail of shit that makes shooters and mobas hard. You're dealing with all the same shit that makes mobas strategic and complex games while playing a shooter in a more complex 3d space than most mobas take place in. But this game also isn't a shooter like Valorant or CSGO where you can flick shot people on a dime with firefights lasting one second. The game wants you to track enemies who have moment abilities, several of which make them aerial targets which requires you to aim and track vertically instead of horizontally which is notoriously hard and not something games like CSGO and Valorant usually ask players to do.

It isn't like hero shooters ether where you see Mei or Captain America and instantly understand what they can do. Characters are complex with varied builds, positions, and can be fed or feeding the way moba characters can be which changes their threat level. So you need moba brain where you're processing the strategic depth of the map, builds, creep waves, cds, and the chaos of 5v5 teamfights while also engaging with a mechanically demanding shooter where mistakes are heavily punished since you're playing a snowballing moba.

The result is maybe the most unrelaxing casual game ever. It's fun if you wanna push yourself to deal with everything that it's throwing at you but for the casual gamer who wants to zone out and pick their favorite jerk on the roster (huge chunk of the people who play these games) its exhausting.

post eternal return

say deadlock is unrelaxing and complex

At least you don't have to farm 24x7 to get average-level items and keep mapping 8 teams in your mind in Deadlock.
Also you can 1v3 in Deadlock with good farm. But it's impossible to fight more than 1 hero in ER for most heroes.

and they are in deadlock

What was the sex appeal in TF2?

Dude if you're telling me you wouldn't hit this you're fucking gay

You can hide them though?

Randoms can't play like a team (in any game) anymore so you have to have a full squad and no one knows five people who want to have spreadsheets up on their second monitor

There's zero (0) occasion that you need to check the K/D/A on the fly.

noob

that's because they migrated to making hardware, the deck, the vr headset which gave us Alyx, and that one steam console we got many years ago.

the weapon skin system + matchmaking are the tf2 GO update.
it sucked ass and basically killed the game for good.

Bebop and Yamato's current designs are their Neon Prime ones, Bebop only needs some small tweaks to match his VN design, Yamato is getting a full remodel.

They should make that skin official to compete with Rivals

It's essentially why I only play multiplayer games on release. I'm becoming a boomer and with work and family shit I can't sink 10 hours a day to get better.

It's become bad even in non-competitive games like battlefield. The new one was a disappointment. People say if you want bf3/4 just go play that, but what they don't get is that most people that stuck to it are turbovirgins sweating their eyes out. True, the game stayed good, but the people changed. Every game has like 250/0 k/d helicopters and jets flying around and there's nothing you can do. Same with souls multiplayer shit, or even PVE games (like, fuck, even DRG, people will whine if you're not playing the meta. Not always, but often label you as trolling if you haven't dedicated a hundred hours of your life researching the most optimal strategy and playing it). Minmaxed beyond belief by zoomzooms. Fuck all that.

If I wanted sweating, I'd go play the games that are 1v1 where that's the whole point. Funnily enough, 1v1 games have dropped off by an insane margin compared to 3v3/5v5 team games. It's quite interesting to see.

She'll get remodeled before launch

i played in ``secret beta`` and was top 0.1% players in my region shortly after the game exploded in popularity, and i was one of the first guys back then to find out you could completely demolish your lane by just farming/denying and ignoring your opponent. Eventually more people found out about that and high level 1x1 became just aim competition. Doesnt help that noobs get completely obliterated and cant even play the game in 1x1 versus good players

Just to add, here a few (there's a lot more, but these are good examples of what I mean) multiplayer games I've had A LOT of fun, and when:

-L4D1/2 on release / became too competitive in versus mode.
-apex legends before seasons
-battlefield 3 and 4 on release
-deadlock first month with massive beta invites
-tf2 (before it got flooded with alt weapons, although it remained quite casual for longer than other games)
dark and darker flavor of the month period
-helldivers2 near release
-battlebit flavor of the month period

Needless to say, if you're young and enjoy process of getting better, it's good for you. I get it. I was young once. wc3 ladder, broodwar ladder, dota1, dota2 assfaggot games were my drug. I got good at them, but at some point, this shit ends. From where I stand, I'd say this shit is being catered to you a bit too much. Especially with engagement maxing from companies. Like apex legends ranked games flood casual players into sweaty lobbies so the streamer kids can feel good about themselves and advertise their game for free through playing and hyping it up.

yeah MP games are the most fun around release when everyone is just figuring shit out on their own

that's not how wrists work

Slow updates and lack of progression, which is understandable for an alpha still working out the fundamentals of its gameplay. There's little incentive to keep playing as of now unless you enjoy a painful ranked grind.
There will be an influx of players again once it goes into open beta since it's no longer competing with the Marvel Rivals hype.

I wrote this right away. The game is overcomplicated and 6 people in a party. It is literally a simulator of getting headaches and nerves.

Funny you should mention that. The rapid decline of the game was during the state of the game where we'd get constant nerfs over and over again.

Because they released an alpha to the public and then made an alpha inside the alpha and stopped updating the public alpha
There are like 10 new characters in the alpha inside the alpha

that's when the game stopped being fun for me
they nerfed literally everything into the ground except the most boring and brainless heros and strategies because the waves of russians and brazilians love picking boring dogshit like haze and wraith

I kinda hate that this game does the weird low res but hyper smooth skin textures that tf2 does too. This looks bad

It's low-res because they're placeholder assets. Valve is just starting to roll out finished hero models for an open beta release.

The rapid decline also came from the god awful matchmaking. People playing for the first time were up against those who had hundreds of hours. It's something I hope they fix up for the beta.

The game doesn't even have actual models yet, it's sculpts with autogenerated skeletons and fucked topology

Is it important to see the number of radiant and dire kills, or to see the difference between both, or the difference in gold/exp amassed between both?
I suspect you could compact those 2 numbers into 1.

esports ruined the game for casual players because they require too much balancing. the game most fun when i could pick seven and get rampages with 1 ult

Get woke go broke. Essentially.

Not him, but honestly it's baffling that not one of these game devs for ASSFAGGOTS has done something to allow you to customize shit.

Imagine you could cut shit out, resize, move bars and so on. Create a default template, leave as is, if someone makes their UI without critical information - it's on them. The easiest solution ever and it's painful that it's not implemented anywhere. Maybe in some MMO with addons/mods I guess.

It's not Half-Life 3.
Memes aside, I just find the setting and artstyle and characters fucking boring.
Valve was supposed to be above this shitty trend of 'Let's just cram a bunch of visually incohesive concept art characters together' that Overwatch with it's sci-fi and cowboys and kpop girls and talking gorillas has.

Is it important to see the number of radiant and dire kills

Yes, it's also important to tab and see the exact kill/death/assist number to see who in each team is feeding/being fed

or to see the difference between both

The ratio is far more important, a 5 kill difference is catastrophic at min 10 but irrelevant at min 30

or the difference in gold/exp amassed between both

You can't see your enemy's net worth, but you can see their levels, those numbers are there for spectators.

In my humble opinion as someone who plays a lot of MOBAs. Deadlock seems to just ignore some fundamental things other MOBAs have. "Jungling" and roaming is there but because there's no dedicated role, you often sacrifice losing objectives for a few souls. There's no hero banning in a game with such a low roster which means characters constantly get outplayed. All players having that knowledge and swapping before the game starts is not likely especially in pub matches.

There are also some characters that just make objective and area denial way too easy. Those that have the best harassment tools ALWAYS win early game. Those with high health and stun mechanics can just bully teams and leave without any penalty. And heroes are just scaled so poorly that high damage characters just don't stand a chance against a team of basically all tanks because there is only one health based damage item in the game.

It's fun to start but it's not fun to watch all your hardwork go down the drain because the Seven who has been feeding all game gets lucky with an ult.

Moba and FPS just don't mix very well, it makes the game exponentially confusing. If you look at a screenshot of the game it looks like that old meme screenshot about overloaded UIs

seven ult complainer

1 digit hours award

Quite literally the only counter is "Just buy knockdown"

And then he uses refresher. It's not as bad as it used to be but still I feel like the game awards some characters with banging your head against the wall until it finally works. And when it does it's usually the shit that leads to the enemy team getting the rejuvenator.

This basically, the mechanics are at odds with each other. Everything that makes both genres fun to play is subdued or changed. If you took the moba mecanics and just left the shooting and movement, it would be a terrible shooter.

I geuinely can't fanthom the thought process behind her redesign.
If my game nobody gives a shit about had a breakout character people spammed porn off all over the place that had the slimmest of hopes of getting a single soul interested in the actual game, I wouldn't touch a fucking hair on her.

Could you say a hypothetical time/radiant kills/dire kills where a single number showing the different would be catastrophic?

I'll say one example.
At 10 minutes. 0 R kills, 5 D kills. Single number: 5 for D
At 10 minutes. 7 R kills, 12 D kills. Single number: 5 for D

What information are you missing? I mean, you are missing a lot. It doesn't tell you when it happened. It doesn't tell you if it was cores that died, or cores that got the kills. It doesn't tell you about assists. It doesn't tell you how gold was spent to get the kills (for example, in consumables), or how much was wasted by those that died anyway (for example, casting TP and dying anyway).
But the same applies to have 2 numbers.

It is a score counter, to display the score of each team, like a sport. You gain a fingernail's real estate by removing them, while making gauging the state of the game by one glance harder.

it's exactly the reason why nobody wants to play this, it's like doing school quizzes everytime you get in a game

schizoid anon still seething months later because other people recognize what "unreleased" actually means

No amount of impotent crying on a Taiwanese carpentry forum will make you correct, anon.
It didn't work for tortanicfags.
It didn't work for shazamfags.
It didn't work for the sharty.
And you will be no different.

i don't know... maybe if they made the characters more fuckable like in league of legends, then they can probably get some prolonged hype. also, the beta sucks and only some people get to play, until the hype went down when marvel rivals and its gooner bait waifus got released.

you snooze you lose, valve.

DB had hot girls, had a good gameplay, and it failed...

seven ult is too strong

just walk away

m&k ult is unfair

walk away

haze is fucking busted

just... walk... away...

Quite literally the only counter is "Just buy knockdown"

you can also... walk away, then shoot him

super sekrit club shit.
Even when it comes out now I probably won't play it out of spite.

>m&k ult is unfair

walk away

yeah man just walk away from the character with five trillion move speed and phantom strike...

Did you forget about the other members on his team? Area denial. These aren't closed cases. It's a team game. If you can't move to escape or defend, the enemy team can just come in and finish you off.

Haze moves way too fucking fast during her ult and can chase with it too quickly.
I'm not complaining (much) if my team clusters up like retards and a farmed Faceless Void blinks up and chronos and fucks us all with one ult, but at least he can't fucking move and chase me if I'm not caught in range

if you couldn't do that while seven was ulting, you wouldn't be able to do it even if he wasn't because seven is more useful when he's not ulting and is instead chasing you at 20mph, melting you with his gun arcs and stunning you for a century

bland hero shooter

dota-tier game changing items

lanes

creeps

towers

xp

levels

a laning stage

a melee combat system

vertical map with actual multistory buildings you can climb on

uhhh did you play the game? I didn't like it but calling it bland is just not true. It's easily the most innovative game out of the genre since TF

Basically the devs were doing extremely regular (sometimes daily) updates and it was exciting, fun, and cool with a pool of a few thousand people.
Then they began to open it up to more people which is fine.
People then began to take it too seriously and started to complain about too many updates (IN AN ACTUAL, LEGIT ALPHA BUILD) and treated it like a released game
The team slowed down due to this feedback and started to release less updates
People then complained about the lack of characters as they treated it like LoL and spent 12 hours a day grinding (well, whenever the MM was open) and acting like it was a competitive e-sport
So the team updated even less to then release characters
The alpha then got too large and too many people complaining so they had to go back to the old formula but only invited streamers and people who jerked them off on discord into an alpha-alpha where it actually gets updates

It also doesn't help that the deadlock team is obviously a small off-shoot at valve doing their own thing with minimal support. It is just a fucking mess.

this
is why

game's not even out yet and has two separate alphas (with the main one being basically relegated to the containment zone for the faggots treating it like some esports shit that's been out for ten years) and most people still don't know what the fuck it even is, the only ones acting like it's "dead" have been following it religiously and either just want more TORtanic shit or burned themselves out on it before it even got off the ground

The alpha released too early and too long without being clear that it was an alpha leading to a lot of misinformation. The character designs are all over the place, some characters questionably ugly. Game length was a bit too long and too much happening from the get-go which snowballed into a chaotic mess.

shooter but with dota cancer

so much for innovation

it's worth noting that the alpha wasn't supposed to be released but it got leeked

nobody has done it before so I'd say it's literally the definition of innovative. You can just say you don't like the game dude. Most people already think there's too much going on in the game.

Unironically this. Learn to play neutral, shooter brains. You can't be good in Dota-likes if you don't know fighting games.

The game had a decent lifespan and community considering the godawful treatment it got from Splash Damage. The fact it wasn't a success financially is purely their fault because the game was enjoyable for newcomers and sweats alike.

Because they gave us the fake testing server. Turns out all the real beta testing is done on a server only paid shills are allowed on.